CRISIS The Ebola vector no one is talking about...

helen

Panic Sex Lady
The Ebola virus has been found in semen weeks after the patient recovered. At least one transmission is on record where a man infected his wife with Ebola after his own recovery.

Think about it. Ebola is popping up in cities without known contact with patients in other areas.

I waited and waited for someone else to point this out. Ebola is the ultimate fatal sexually transmitted disease. If medicine never eradicated syphilis or gonorrhea...?

Panic Sex Lady considers Panic Celibacy...

 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Just day before yesterday Atlanta media interviewed a Dr. (not Friedlen; another Dr., from Emory I think) who glibly said, "Well, once a patient is well, they're well, so they're no longer infectious"---and that was 1 day after WHO had come out with their statement that ebola lives in transmissible form in the semen up to 7 weeks after recovery.
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
Just day before yesterday Atlanta media interviewed a Dr. (not Friedlen; another Dr., from Emory I think) who glibly said, "Well, once a patient is well, they're well, so they're no longer infectious"---and that was 1 day after WHO had come out with their statement that ebola lives in transmissible form in the semen up to 7 weeks after recovery.

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Assessment of the Risk of Ebola Virus Transmission from Bodily Fluids and Fomites
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/196/Supplement_2/S142.full
 

Frugal Bob

Veteran Member
Panic Sex Lady considers Panic Celibacy...:shkr:

This truly is the the Apocalypse.

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pirate9933

Veteran Member
I'm glad I saw this thread.

The question I was going to post was how long outside the body can ebola survive?
After doing some googling, I found the answer.
Worse than semen because semen is USUALLY between couples, hetero or fag, uhm, I mean gay.

I was thinking that they are watching planes that came from the infected area of Africa BUT, how about the plane that left the infected area of Africa and went to 2 or 3 turd world crap holes then to Switzerland, then to Germany, then to France, then to England then to America.

Only a day or two right. They check and say the plane came from England and France and maybe go back to Germany BUT how far back do they go.

Here is the scary truth.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/02/ebola-symptoms-infection-virus_n_5639456.html

Dr. Nahid Bhadelia, M.D., the associate hospital epidemiologist at Boston Medical Center and director of Infection Control at Boston University's National Emerging Infectious Disease Laboratories.

What Actually Happens When A Person Is Infected With The Ebola Virus.

Ebola can also survive outside the host for a significant period of time -- as long as a couple of days -- at room temperature. "That's why infection control is such a huge part of this," Bhadelia said. "If you have sterilization of equipment, if you have availability of disinfectant, things like IVs ... and if you're able to clean all those environments and isolate patients effectively, the outbreak would never take a foothold." This is why places with good infection control and medical infrastructure face absolutely no risk for outbreaks from this pathogen, she added.

WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BODY ONCE INFECTION OCCURS?

Once the Ebola virus makes its way into the body, it gets in the body's cells and replicates itself. "Then it comes bursting out of our cells and produces this protein that wreaks havoc," Bhadelia explained. The protein is called ebolavirus glycoprotein, and attaches to the cells on the inside of the blood vessels. This increases permeability of the blood vessels -- leading to blood leaking out of the vessels. "The virus causes derangement in the body's ability to coagulate and thicken the blood," she said. Even people who don't show hemorrhagic symptoms will experience this leaking of blood from the vessels -- which can eventually lead to shock and, ultimately, death.

The Ebola virus is also a master of evading the body's natural defenses: It blocks the signaling to cells called neutrophils, which are white blood cells that are in charge of raising the alarm for the immune system to come and attack. In fact, Ebola will infect immune cells and travel in those cells to other parts of the body -- including the liver, kidney, spleen and brain.

Each time one of the cells is infected with the Ebola virus and bursts, spilling out its contents, the damage and presence of the virus particles activates molecules called cytokines. In a healthy body, these cytokines are responsible for provoking an inflammatory response so that the body knows it's being attacked. But in the case of an Ebola patient, "it's such an overwhelming release [of cytokines], that's what's causing the flu-like symptoms" that are the first sign of Ebola, Bhadelia said.
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No way can they know whats coming in via airplanes or the border.

Bring out your dead.
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
I'm glad I saw this thread.

The question I was going to post was how long outside the body can ebola survive?
After doing some googling, I found the answer.
Worse than semen because semen is USUALLY between couples, hetero or fag, uhm, I mean gay.

I was thinking that they are watching planes that came from the infected area of Africa BUT, how about the plane that left the infected area of Africa and went to 2 or 3 turd world crap holes then to Switzerland, then to Germany, then to France, then to England then to America.

Only a day or two right. They check and say the plane came from England and France and maybe go back to Germany BUT how far back do they go.

Here is the scary truth.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/02/ebola-symptoms-infection-virus_n_5639456.html

Dr. Nahid Bhadelia, M.D., the associate hospital epidemiologist at Boston Medical Center and director of Infection Control at Boston University's National Emerging Infectious Disease Laboratories.

What Actually Happens When A Person Is Infected With The Ebola Virus.

Ebola can also survive outside the host for a significant period of time -- as long as a couple of days -- at room temperature. "That's why infection control is such a huge part of this," Bhadelia said. "If you have sterilization of equipment, if you have availability of disinfectant, things like IVs ... and if you're able to clean all those environments and isolate patients effectively, the outbreak would never take a foothold." This is why places with good infection control and medical infrastructure face absolutely no risk for outbreaks from this pathogen, she added.

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This is from Hong Kong CHP (Center for Health Protection)

http://www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/ic_recommendations_for_evd.pdf

snip/

Proper use, disinfection and disposal of healthcare equipment and instruments

Ebola viruses have been known to survive for two weeks or even longer on contaminated
equipment and fabrics.
 

pirate9933

Veteran Member
This is from Hong Kong CHP (Center for Health Protection)

http://www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/ic_recommendations_for_evd.pdf

snip/

Proper use, disinfection and disposal of healthcare equipment and instruments

Ebola viruses have been known to survive for two weeks or even longer on contaminated
equipment and fabrics.

Wow, just speechless. The plane the plane.
The plane can make many stops over a two week period. This thing can get out of control super fast.

As far as TPTB, this virus like any virus can mutate so quickly that any cure can be useless within a matter of weeks.

I've heard the US started this, I just saw a thread where the Russians started it.
Out of all the stuff I've read here over time, this scares me the most.

Look for the 12 monkeys.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Hopefully.....even though this virus can transmit via the aerosol route, sweat and all other bodily fluids it might not be super infectious/easy to catch. IF that is the case then sanitation here in the U.S. and other developed countries should slow down the infection rate over here. At this point with discarding the happy juice government and media is giving us that is probably the best that can be hoped for.
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
Hopefully.....even though this virus can transmit via the aerosol route, sweat and all other bodily fluids it might not be super infectious/easy to catch. IF that is the case then sanitation here in the U.S. and other developed countries should slow down the infection rate over here. At this point with discarding the happy juice government and media is giving us that is probably the best that can be hoped for.

Maybe, maybe not.

How many people would just grab a spray can of Lysol or any other type of spray disinfectant? I know my SIL and BIL think that is the cure-all for everything. Unfortunately, all that does with Ebola is make it "temporarily"? airborne.

If you plan on disinfecting anything, wipe it down.
 

Woolly

Veteran Member
The Ebola virus has been found in semen weeks after the patient recovered. At least one transmission is on record where a man infected his wife with Ebola after his own recovery.

Think about it. Ebola is popping up in cities without known contact with patients in other areas.

I waited and waited for someone else to point this out. Ebola is the ultimate fatal sexually transmitted disease. If medicine never eradicated syphilis or gonorrhea...?

Panic Sex Lady considers Panic Celibacy...


Now, you've gone too far, Helen!!
Everything in moderation is the ticket. Even panic, and forget celibacy. :groucho:

Woolly
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
African truck routes are HIV highways. Prostitution is everywhere. So one Ebola infected trucker who visits prostitutes while he still feels...er...up to it can spread the disease to hundreds of secondary patients. They pass it to wives who pass it to nursing infants who pass it to other kids through diarrhea.

Imagine what would happen in this country if Ebola makes its way into the prostitution business in the U.S.? The casinos? Gay bars? Any bars?

Panic Celibate Lady...just doesn't seem right...
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
African truck routes are HIV highways. Prostitution is everywhere. So one Ebola infected trucker who visits prostitutes while he still feels...er...up to it can spread the disease to hundreds of secondary patients. They pass it to wives who pass it to nursing infants who pass it to other kids through diarrhea.

Imagine what would happen in this country if Ebola makes its way into the prostitution business in the U.S.? The casinos? Gay bars? Any bars?

Panic Celibate Lady...just doesn't seem right...



always looking on the brite side. ;-)
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BODY ONCE INFECTION OCCURS?

Once the Ebola virus makes its way into the body, it gets in the body's cells and replicates itself. "Then it comes bursting out of our cells and produces this protein that wreaks havoc," Bhadelia explained. The protein is called ebolavirus glycoprotein, and attaches to the cells on the inside of the blood vessels. This increases permeability of the blood vessels -- leading to blood leaking out of the vessels. "The virus causes derangement in the body's ability to coagulate and thicken the blood," she said. Even people who don't show hemorrhagic symptoms will experience this leaking of blood from the vessels -- which can eventually lead to shock and, ultimately, death.

The Ebola virus is also a master of evading the body's natural defenses: It blocks the signaling to cells called neutrophils, which are white blood cells that are in charge of raising the alarm for the immune system to come and attack. In fact, Ebola will infect immune cells and travel in those cells to other parts of the body -- including the liver, kidney, spleen and brain.

Each time one of the cells is infected with the Ebola virus and bursts, spilling out its contents, the damage and presence of the virus particles activates molecules called cytokines. In a healthy body, these cytokines are responsible for provoking an inflammatory response so that the body knows it's being attacked. But in the case of an Ebola patient, "it's such an overwhelming release [of cytokines], that's what's causing the flu-like symptoms" that are the first sign of Ebola, Bhadelia said.
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Kendo

Senior Member
How come with all this strange stuff ain't no one pulling out the Revelation's card?

Famine, disease, virus, war, violence...are we there yet?
 

Frugal Bob

Veteran Member
Famine, disease, virus, war, violence... dude been there for a while now, Revelation's no need to bring it up we all know its up on us.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
WOW, I AM GLAD I READ THIS!!!!

Because, CURCUMIN WILL STOP A "CYTOKINE CASCADE" which is what the EBOLA VIRUS TRIGGERS! That is a RUNAWAY IMMUNE SYSTEM attacking your own body, which ITSELF WILL KILL YOU, even without the Ebola!! (That is what REALLY killed SARS, PIG, AND AVIAN Flu victims.)
NOW I KNOW TURMERIC 95% CURCUMIN MUST BE TAKEN ALONG WITH THE Colloidal Silver!!

WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BODY ONCE INFECTION OCCURS?

Once the Ebola virus makes its way into the body, it gets in the body's cells and replicates itself. "Then it comes bursting out of our cells and produces this protein that wreaks havoc," Bhadelia explained. The protein is called ebolavirus glycoprotein, and attaches to the cells on the inside of the blood vessels. This increases permeability of the blood vessels -- leading to blood leaking out of the vessels. "The virus causes derangement in the body's ability to coagulate and thicken the blood," she said. Even people who don't show hemorrhagic symptoms will experience this leaking of blood from the vessels -- which can eventually lead to shock and, ultimately, death.

The Ebola virus is also a master of evading the body's natural defenses: It blocks the signaling to cells called neutrophils, which are white blood cells that are in charge of raising the alarm for the immune system to come and attack. In fact, Ebola will infect immune cells and travel in those cells to other parts of the body -- including the liver, kidney, spleen and brain.

Each time one of the cells is infected with the Ebola virus and bursts, spilling out its contents, the damage and presence of the virus particles activates molecules called cytokines. In a healthy body, these cytokines are responsible for provoking an inflammatory response so that the body knows it's being attacked. But in the case of an Ebola patient, "it's such an overwhelming release [of cytokines], that's what's causing the flu-like symptoms" that are the first sign of Ebola, Bhadelia said.
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almost ready

Inactive
That is one scary illness - a perfect storm in a body.

Methinks that avoiding it is a good plan, maybe the only plan.
 

It'sJustMe

Deceased
I have a friend who is working in Africa within the doctor's without borders umbrella. She is staying in the country of Burkino Faso, which is above Ghana, but away from the concentration of victims. However, she once told me that the people around there are nomadic, and the borders are fluid according to the seasons and available work. 2 months ago she was home to the Seattle area, to visit family and friends. I did not connect with her on this recent visit. She flew back to her assigned job in BF, and worked for about 1 month. Then she and her fellow Christian doctors went to Germany on holiday, and then down to Switzerland, with no apparent difficulties with customs or restrictions. She's back to work now. If the aid workers are free to come and go from the nearby areas, and nomads move through these areas, I have to take pause and consider that we have no control over such a situation. If Ebola makes it's way further out in Africa, which we can only assume it will, and those bordering countries aren't already being vigilant about comings and goings, the rest of the world has absolutely no safeguards. The one man at the airport in Lagos proved how quickly even one person can spread it, and it could land here at any time. We should all be preparing for this, now! It seems truly to only be a matter of time, sadly!:shk:
 

OddOne

< Yes, I do look like that.
Cytokine storms are often more fatal than the disease that caused them. This is thought to be the principal cause of death for H1N1 (Spanish Flu). Basically, your immune system is set to absolute max and goes so crazy that it kills everything, including stuff you kinda need.
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
19th Ebola Case Confirmed In Nigeria

Posted by: niyi on September 8, 2014
http://www.informationng.com/2014/09/19th-ebola-case-confirmed-in-nigeria.html



Fifty days after the Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) entered Nigeria, the Federal government
Monday confirmed a new case of the disease in the country.
The new case brings to 19, the number of confirmed cases in the country.

The 19th case was said to be the fiancé of one of the primary contacts of
Patrick Sawyer, who brought the virus to Nigeria and died of the disease in
July.

According to the Minister of Health, Prof. Onyebuchi Chukwu, the test
results were equivocal but further tests established the disease.

“He had only mild symptoms and he has since recovered from the illness.
He was quarantined but because of the equivocal test result he was not
placed on active treatment,” Chukwu said.


^^^ THAT many days after primary contact was "cured", fiancé
comes down with Ebola
. :kiss: + :hugs: = :groucho: .:hmm:

(Unless their paper work is just real real slow, and they didn't update till now.)

 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Please refrain from hormone jokes ...



From the Nigerian Tribune


http://www.tribune.com.ng/your-heal...-ebola-common-habits-that-can-cause-infection

EBOLA: Common habits that can cause infection


...Unfortunately, men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to seven weeks after recovery from illness.

Little wonder, the complaint of lack of patronage by commercial sex workers or prostitutes who believe that many of their patrons appear to have taken a break for now, at least until the situation returns to normal.



Panic Sex Lady
 
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