INSANITY The Collapse Of Teen Mental Health — And Deadly Mass Shootings — Can Be Traced To One Single Trend
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WildDaisy
God has a plan, Trust it!
The Mental Health issues in our teens are a DIRECT RESULT of the failure to teach social skills in their early years.
The main causes:
- The issuance of "Participation awards" instead of winners and losers - fails to teach our kids our to lose well and win graciously.
- The absence of recess during the school day has failed to teach our kids how to deal with rejection when not picked first for the kickball team. This taught our kids communication skills, how to work as a team, play nice with others, and deal with not being good at everything.
- The changing of the grading system to not have "F"s. Everyone fails. It is how we learn.
- The rush of "success" and "status" pushes parents to focus on themselves instead of on their children. They use cell phones and cartoons, and later on video games to babysit their children for peace and quiet so they can get their work done for a status that doesn't matter.
There are NO tombstones that say "Here lies a successful business person". They all say beloved "Mother", "Father", Wife", "Husband", etc for a reason. THOSE are the only titles that really mattered. LIVE as if they matter!
Talk to your children every night. Doesn't matter about what. Whatever subject is important to them, no matter how trivial. Because if they aren't comfortable in the day-to-day talking about the small stuff, they will never come to you with "the big stuff". They will never confide in you when they are feeling low or being bullied, or drugs or sex. now who their friends are and make sure they are over often and THE FRIENDS KNOW YOU.
Kids will eventually escape the "protective bubble" that has been built for them. Failure to teach the social skills below is a disservice to them. They will never have the social skills to know how to deal with getting passed over for a promotion, job loss, and most importantly, loss. It is why so many are snapping during Covid. They don't have the social skills to deal with the common things of life as older people were taught. Because they don't have these skills, they have to turn to mental health providers to medicate them. Most of these kids never needed medication. They needed the people in their lives to stop worrying about hurting their "self esteem" and teach them how to deal with life when it does hurt them. Because it WILL. That is life. It isn't fair.
I do not blame the kids. I blame the parents. A child is not an INTERRUPTION to your day - they are the REASON for it!
I went on every school trip my son took from kindergarten to high school. I remember vividly that on one trip, my son called out on the bus saying "Mom, I saved you a seat". He was among his friends, who I all know well because they were at my house almost daily. And some of the parents were flabbergasted. They said their kids don't even want to be seen with them. On that same trip, the teacher and I were talking and she said the same four mothers come on every trip, and oddly, they are also the same four mothers who work full time outside the home. She said it was "quite telling".
One Easter, when my son was in high school, my husband and I went on vacation. My son stayed with his grandparents. I got no less than 4 voicemails on my phone when I returned from my mothers elderly friends. It seems on Easter Sunday, it rained. After church, he walked each of these elderly ladies arm and arm with an umbrella to their cars so they wouldn't get wet. Each of the calls were from those ladies stating even their own grandchildren wouldn't have done that.
Teach your children the way they should go, and when they are older, they will not depart from it! (Proverbs 22:6)
The main causes:
- The issuance of "Participation awards" instead of winners and losers - fails to teach our kids our to lose well and win graciously.
- The absence of recess during the school day has failed to teach our kids how to deal with rejection when not picked first for the kickball team. This taught our kids communication skills, how to work as a team, play nice with others, and deal with not being good at everything.
- The changing of the grading system to not have "F"s. Everyone fails. It is how we learn.
- The rush of "success" and "status" pushes parents to focus on themselves instead of on their children. They use cell phones and cartoons, and later on video games to babysit their children for peace and quiet so they can get their work done for a status that doesn't matter.
There are NO tombstones that say "Here lies a successful business person". They all say beloved "Mother", "Father", Wife", "Husband", etc for a reason. THOSE are the only titles that really mattered. LIVE as if they matter!
Talk to your children every night. Doesn't matter about what. Whatever subject is important to them, no matter how trivial. Because if they aren't comfortable in the day-to-day talking about the small stuff, they will never come to you with "the big stuff". They will never confide in you when they are feeling low or being bullied, or drugs or sex. now who their friends are and make sure they are over often and THE FRIENDS KNOW YOU.
Kids will eventually escape the "protective bubble" that has been built for them. Failure to teach the social skills below is a disservice to them. They will never have the social skills to know how to deal with getting passed over for a promotion, job loss, and most importantly, loss. It is why so many are snapping during Covid. They don't have the social skills to deal with the common things of life as older people were taught. Because they don't have these skills, they have to turn to mental health providers to medicate them. Most of these kids never needed medication. They needed the people in their lives to stop worrying about hurting their "self esteem" and teach them how to deal with life when it does hurt them. Because it WILL. That is life. It isn't fair.
I do not blame the kids. I blame the parents. A child is not an INTERRUPTION to your day - they are the REASON for it!
I went on every school trip my son took from kindergarten to high school. I remember vividly that on one trip, my son called out on the bus saying "Mom, I saved you a seat". He was among his friends, who I all know well because they were at my house almost daily. And some of the parents were flabbergasted. They said their kids don't even want to be seen with them. On that same trip, the teacher and I were talking and she said the same four mothers come on every trip, and oddly, they are also the same four mothers who work full time outside the home. She said it was "quite telling".
One Easter, when my son was in high school, my husband and I went on vacation. My son stayed with his grandparents. I got no less than 4 voicemails on my phone when I returned from my mothers elderly friends. It seems on Easter Sunday, it rained. After church, he walked each of these elderly ladies arm and arm with an umbrella to their cars so they wouldn't get wet. Each of the calls were from those ladies stating even their own grandchildren wouldn't have done that.
Teach your children the way they should go, and when they are older, they will not depart from it! (Proverbs 22:6)
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ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
However.....when you absolutely need mental health care you can't get help. A good friend of ours has a 35 y/o autistic son who needs SERIOUS help. He should actually be institutionalized. When he has an "episode" he can be very violent and destructive.
Just recently he got way out of hand and needed to be hospitalized and sedated in a mental care facility....but there are no beds available in the entire county. The soonest a bed "might" be open for in patient care is JULY!! He needs SERIOUS mental health counseling but the soonest available appointment anywhere is in DECEMBER!!
So much for emergency support.......
Just recently he got way out of hand and needed to be hospitalized and sedated in a mental care facility....but there are no beds available in the entire county. The soonest a bed "might" be open for in patient care is JULY!! He needs SERIOUS mental health counseling but the soonest available appointment anywhere is in DECEMBER!!
So much for emergency support.......
Wow - 44 posts on this thread and about 80 opinions. This thread clearly demonstrates why nothing is done. If you put a committee of say, 30 together to try and hammer out a solution, it would be hopelessly gridlocked in a half hour. You people dance all around it, but don’t address the root cause:
These kids want to be famous. They want to go down in history. They want to “be somebody.” And they want it even if it costs them their lives. On mourningdove’s thread, I posited what would be necessary to stop these mass shootings. I didn’t get a single comment either way. Evidently all you eggs-berts passed that thread by. The closest to correct is this:
One of these days, you’re going to hear of one of these mentally challenged social malcontents invading a large daycare center and killing 50 toddlers.
Cuz fame.
These kids want to be famous. They want to go down in history. They want to “be somebody.” And they want it even if it costs them their lives. On mourningdove’s thread, I posited what would be necessary to stop these mass shootings. I didn’t get a single comment either way. Evidently all you eggs-berts passed that thread by. The closest to correct is this:
But et2 was also off the mark. No one under 18 should be allowed to have a social media account. SM is the greatest evil to ever descend on the world. Add the MSM that glorifies death and violence and instantly immortalizes these shooters, and you have the current state of affairs. UNTIL THE NAMES OF THESE SHOOTERS ARE NEVER MENTIONED, AND SOCIAL MEDIA IS RESTRICTED SUCH THAT ANY THREAT OF VIOLENCE RESULTS IN THE IMMEDIATE LOCKING OF THE ACCOUNT, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. Quite the opposite; our young “influencers” are going to keep killing in ever-more-horrific numbers and ways.
One of these days, you’re going to hear of one of these mentally challenged social malcontents invading a large daycare center and killing 50 toddlers.
Cuz fame.
Which is probably why the Chinese are adding one hour game time to their social credit crap.
I read something about kids only being able to game for one hour. They can also shut off the social media.
They have a much bigger population than us and they know they need to control it. They obviously made the connection.
I was driving home from Wm the other day and thought I saw a purple Unicorn, second glance, it was a little fat kid riding his bike outside. I almost stopped and took a picture.
Josie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
My daughter is a mental counselor. She has many clients that NEED hospitalization and you cannot get them in a mental health facility...pretty much anywhere. Period. The need can be identified but there is nothing you can do about it.
It, is the secret government sowing seed of distrust between GODS children.
The Collapse Of Teen Mental Health — And Deadly Mass Shootings — Can Be Traced To One Single Trend
The start of the mental health crisis in the United States, particularly among young people, can be tied to an exact era in time: the advent of social media.dailycaller.com
The Collapse Of Teen Mental Health — And Deadly Mass Shootings — Can Be Traced To One Single Trend
DYLAN HOUSMAN
HEALTHCARE REPORTER
May 27, 2022
3:45 PM ET
The start of the mental health crisis in the United States, particularly among young people, can be tied to an exact era in time: the advent of social media and smartphone technologies.
A review of key indicators of despair over time in the U.S. — including suicide rates, drug overdoses and reports of anxiety — shows that the intensification of America’s mental health decline coincides almost perfectly with the invention of smartphones and the popularization of social media. The number of mass shootings, especially those conducted by young males, also ticks up in the same time period.
The first iPhone was released in the United States in June 2007. Facebook was opened up to anyone aged 13 or over in 2006. Instagram launched in 2010, and the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 were released in 2005 and 2006, respectively. The mental health of teenagers and young adults has plummeted rapidly since the mid-2000’s, as screen time and social isolation have skyrocketed.
One key indicator is suicide rates. The crude rate of suicide in ages 15-24 tripled between 1950 and 1980, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), but then began to decline until the early 2000’s. That’s when it shot back up again. In 2000, the rate was 10.2 per 100,000. It remained relatively stable, ticking up slightly to 10.5 in 2010, before surging to 14.5 by 2017.
When the age range is expanded to 10-24, the trend is even more stark. “After stable trends from 2000 to 2007, suicide rates for persons aged 10–24 increased from 2007 (6.8 per 100,000 persons) to 2017 (10.6), while homicide rates declined from 2007 to 2014 and then increased through 2017,” a 2019 report from the National Center for Health Statistics reads.
The downturn in homicides is notable as well; young people haven’t become more violent overall, just more violent toward themselves. The suicide rate among this age group didn’t surpass the homicide rate until 2010.
During the rise of social media from its infancy to the dominant place it holds in society today, youth anxiety rates rose with it. The National Survey of Children’s Health found that the number of people between the ages of six and 17 who had been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder surged by 20% between 2007 and 2012. Back in 2003, just 4% of kids had been told by a health professional that they had signs of a problem with depression or anxiety.
There isn’t only a correlation between young people feeling depressed and the popularization of social media, smartphones and online video games. There’s a measurable behavioral change as well. (RELATED: Man Who Allegedly Threatened Mass Violence Toward Elementary School Arrested)
From the 1970’s until the late 2000’s, the number of high schoolers who said they saw their friends face-to-face “almost every day” was on the decline, but only slightly. From 1990 until 2005, with slight variations based on age, the proportion dipped from around 50% to around 45%, according to a study in the Journal of Social and Personal Relationships. However, starting in 2010, the share fell off a cliff: from around 40% to barely above 25% just seven years later in 2017.
The same study found that the portion of teens who said they feel lonely “a lot” of the time was actually on the decline until 2007 — the year the iPhone was released — at which point it now began a rapid increase to now all-time highs. On average, today’s 10th graders report going to 17 fewer parties per year than their peers in the 1980’s.
Tragically, these trends among young people — as well as older adults, measured via metrics like drug overdoses — map onto a timeline not only of technological innovation, but mass shootings. Ten of the 13 deadliest mass shootings in modern American history have taken place since 2007. Four of the five deadliest took place in the social media age, since 2012. When it comes to school shootings specifically, nearly all of the deadliest, with the exception of Columbine, have happened in the past 15 years. (RELATED: Overdose Deaths Soared In 2021, Especially In Teens)
These trends of despair don’t only manifest themselves in violence against the self or others. Drug overdoses in 15-24 year-olds were relatively flat from 2006-2009 before beginning a steady uptick, reaching all-time highs in recent years, according to the National Center for Drug Abuse Statistics. The average time spent in front of a screen has surged in recent years for young people, and obesity rates in teens have jumped in the same time frame, starting a significant uptick in 2010.
Researchers have dismissed any direct connection between violent video games and mass shootings, and there are tens of millions of American kids who use social media and don’t harm themselves or others. But overlaying the timelines of America’s mental health decline, technology use and mass shootings reveals a correlation too strong to ignore.
GOD, will soon put a stop to this !
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
DW was a Licensed Professional Counselor and spent MANY LONG NIGHTS trying to find inpatient beds. All the institutions to house these people are gone. Insurance companies don't want to pay for treatment - just dope them up and let them go off on their own. Cops aren't trained to deal with mental health issues. To them everyone is a nail and they are hammers.
Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
Correlation doesn't necessarily imply cause.Fair use from OP said:
Years ago I remember reading of a correlation between the rise in indoor plumbing and cancer.
stop tyranny
Veteran Member
This is all true. Without at least one active parent at home the values and beliefs being instilled are coming from fictional characters in movies and games as well as "so called" friends, teachers, social media influencers, and many others. Most of which are selfish, spoiled, entitled, materialistic, and lack morals and respect.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
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But if they can lock the accounts of folks who dare to voice conservative ideas, why not lock the accounts of anybody who threatens physical harm to another.?
Better yet, lock the accounts of those who threaten violence INSTEAD OF locking out conservative ideas…
Actually, no, I did not read that thread.
But if they can lock the accounts of folks who dare to voice conservative ideas, why not lock the accounts of anybody who threatens physical harm to another.?
Better yet, lock the accounts of those who threaten violence INSTEAD OF locking out conservative ideas…
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Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Andrew Golden, the 10 year old shooter in the 1998 school shooting in Jonesboro, AR that killed one teacher and five children was from am intact family. Both his mother and his father worked as Postmasters in rural Arkansas post offices.
Although 13 year old Mitchell Johnson - who I believe was the mastermind of the shooting incident - WAS from a broken home.
Caplock50
I am the Winter Warrior
I believe the 'outlawing' of cell phones until a certain age, is very much needed. All I can recall about a 'privately funded medical research' is that they found the more a person kept a cell phone to their ear(head) the more likely they were to 'go crazy'. They said that the 'frequencies' used in the phones were 'altering the persons minds'. And then, years later, there was another such 'report' put out about how bad '5G' was on the brain.
Sorry, but that's 2 things I didn't 'keep a link' to. Somebody with far better skills than I have, may be able to hunt them up. My suggestion would be to start with the 'Archived TB2K' because I think they may have been posted here/there... And good luck on your efforts.
intothatgoodnight
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The algorithm, of course.
TammyinWI
Talk is cheap
Wasn't this just posted here somewhere? I believe that this does contribute:
About 1 minute 30 seconds. From 2013:
School Shooting + SSRI's
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpFoivbZH1o
About 1 minute 30 seconds. From 2013:
School Shooting + SSRI's
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I hadn't thought about the "death" of recess, but that may be a good point; little children need to play which is part of "the work" of childhood. Older children need breaks to meet, socialize and blow off steam just like adults do. Even kids like me that had almost no friends and hated physical activity need time to go read a book, gaze at a tree or chat with that one friend they do have.
Some of the other factors people have mentioned also get in the way of this "work" of childhood and indeed the "work" of young teenagers learning to ropes of how to socialize and that actions have consequences. The Cell/Mobile Phone or instant internet I think is part of that.
The problem is that the kids and the teenagers see their parents and older siblings also texting while waiting in line at the supermarket or even on the family TV night.
The over-drugging of kids who don't need it, but might actually need recess to do vigorous play (especially boys, and the almost total lack of health care for those who need MORE than drugs and even the drugs under MEDICAL (not a school nurses) supervision is also a factor.
I won't do thread drift, but I will mention that the original proposal of banning the older institutions (some of which I visited and the conditions were terrible) was that "care" would be "provided" in the community. Lawmakers and Social Workers envisioned lots of halfway houses and "care in the community" most of which would have cost a lot of money and didn't happen - I mean who wants a halfway house next door?
The new "drugs" that came seemed a miracle and it became "best practice" just to drug people into a walking coma, sadly this doesn't work for everyone and people seriously ill outside of institutions often don't take their "meds."
So I'm sorry but this situation is complicated - there are other factors other people have mentioned like a lack of family life, lack of discipline from a young age, all sorts of things.
But I think the primary ones are:
The lack of real mental health services that actually help, and the overuse of heavy drugs on children as a result.
The Cell/Mobile; phones and access to 24/7 internet are often unsupervised by parents or other adults.
A breakdown in family life and discipline of young children in both school and at home
Schools that really a babysitting service and even the Welfare Departments view them in that fashion.
A lack of respect for the absolute need of small children to play and that of older children for breaks in the name of passing tests.
The passing of kids to the next grade when they don't know the material and the failure to make sure they can even read, as long as they pass "the test" often with "assistance."
There's more but that's my "short" list.
Some of the other factors people have mentioned also get in the way of this "work" of childhood and indeed the "work" of young teenagers learning to ropes of how to socialize and that actions have consequences. The Cell/Mobile Phone or instant internet I think is part of that.
The problem is that the kids and the teenagers see their parents and older siblings also texting while waiting in line at the supermarket or even on the family TV night.
The over-drugging of kids who don't need it, but might actually need recess to do vigorous play (especially boys, and the almost total lack of health care for those who need MORE than drugs and even the drugs under MEDICAL (not a school nurses) supervision is also a factor.
I won't do thread drift, but I will mention that the original proposal of banning the older institutions (some of which I visited and the conditions were terrible) was that "care" would be "provided" in the community. Lawmakers and Social Workers envisioned lots of halfway houses and "care in the community" most of which would have cost a lot of money and didn't happen - I mean who wants a halfway house next door?
The new "drugs" that came seemed a miracle and it became "best practice" just to drug people into a walking coma, sadly this doesn't work for everyone and people seriously ill outside of institutions often don't take their "meds."
So I'm sorry but this situation is complicated - there are other factors other people have mentioned like a lack of family life, lack of discipline from a young age, all sorts of things.
But I think the primary ones are:
The lack of real mental health services that actually help, and the overuse of heavy drugs on children as a result.
The Cell/Mobile; phones and access to 24/7 internet are often unsupervised by parents or other adults.
A breakdown in family life and discipline of young children in both school and at home
Schools that really a babysitting service and even the Welfare Departments view them in that fashion.
A lack of respect for the absolute need of small children to play and that of older children for breaks in the name of passing tests.
The passing of kids to the next grade when they don't know the material and the failure to make sure they can even read, as long as they pass "the test" often with "assistance."
There's more but that's my "short" list.