DISASTER The Armed Militia Or Why the Marxist Morons Should be Afraid Of Deplorables 12-4-2019

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The context of any type of major disaster, natural or manmade, here in CONUS must be the reality of the armed militia, which as the Founding Fathers put it, was made up of all males 17 years old to 55 years old and all the weapons they owned, under the 2nd Amendment.

The thing the Marxist Morons don't get, or the clowns in Virginia don't quite understand is, as the following link and story show, the armed militia can take them all out, no problem, and without breaking a sweat. The ATF tells us, yes, the ATF, American citizens own a staggering 423 MILLION PERSONAL WEAPONS, WITH COMBINED WITH 8 PLUS BILLION, YES BILLION, ROUNDS OF AMMO. The reality is also that 50 percent of the American people own guns, and roughly 50 percent don't, which places the Blue Smurfs, trapped in their "gun free zones," and their Marxist Democrat gun grabbers totally at the mercy of the armed militia, ie the one half that are armed.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-per-person-8-1-billion-rounds-of-ammo-a-year

Opinion: Washington Secrets
ATF: 423M guns in America, 1.2 per person, 8.1B rounds of ammunition a year
by Paul Bedard
| December 04, 2019 09:43 AM

America’s love affair with guns is only getting stronger.

New federal data shows that there are 422.9 million firearms in circulation, or about 1.2 guns for every person in the country.:usfl:

What’s more, despite years of criticism of modern “assault-style” rifles such as the AR-15 and AK-47, there are a record 17.7 million in private hands, proving that it is the most popular gun around.

And last year alone, the arms industry produced 8.1 billion rounds of ammunition.:shkr:

The figures are from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives and were crunched by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the gun industry trade group.

“These figures show the industry that America has a strong desire to continue to purchase firearms for lawful purposes,” said Joe Bartozzi, president of the NSSF, in a statement releasing the group’s new report.

“The modern sporting rifle continues to be the most popular centerfire rifle sold in America today and is clearly a commonly owned firearm with more than 17 million in legal private ownership today. The continued popularity of handguns demonstrates a strong interest by Americans to protect themselves and their homes and to participate in the recreational shooting sports,” he said.

Gun shops contacted by Secrets said that they are seeing more and more purchases of semiautomatic weapons such as handguns and AR-15s due to the criticism of those guns by 2020 Democratic presidential candidates.

“Sales have definitely been brisk, especially of small, concealable handguns. We also saw a spike in sales of tactical rifles like AR-15s and AK-47s, for which I think we can confidently thank Beto O’Rourke,” said Justin Anderson, the marketing director for Hyatt Guns in Charlotte, North Carolina, one of the country’s biggest retailers.


During his short presidential campaign, O'Rourke called for a ban on the rifles.

Other details from the NSSF report, shared with Secrets:

Of all rifles produced in 2017, 54% were modern sporting rifles.
In 2017, 7,901,218 total firearms were produced and imported. Of those, 4,411,923 were pistols and revolvers, 2,821,945 were rifles, and 667,350 were shotguns.

An interim 2018 estimate showed 7,660,772 total firearms were produced and imported. Of those, 4,277,971 were pistols and revolvers, 2,846,757 were rifles, and 535,994 were shotguns.

Firearms-ammunition manufacturing accounted for nearly 12,000 employees producing more than $4.1 billion in goods shipped in 2017.

An estimated 8.1 billion rounds, of all calibers and gauges, were produced in 2018 for the U.S. market.
 
I've heard from different Youtubers that Americans are in possession of upwards of 50 to 60 trillion rounds of ammo.
I'm not sure, but if so, I need to take out another mortgage or rob a bank or something because apparently I'm short a few rounds.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Well, even if the Antifa are buying weapons and ammo to "take on," Trump supporters there are several facts about that. First, 99 percent of any potential liberal, or antifa, or Marxist type have NEVER been in any branch of the US military, nor have they EVER been through even Basic Training, much less AIT combat training, much, much less been under military discipline at all.

They have, not any of them, been in combat, or understand the concepts of loyalty, personal honor, or have even the most rudimentary of military training. There is a reason basic training lasts two to three months.

And it is these "Antifa babes in the woods," who will be going up against MILLIONS of military veterans, many of whom are COMBAT VETERANS from the "sand box." And it is against MILLIONS of veterans who have multiple years of training, from how to march in formation, or take an order without arguing.

Sorry, but these liberal types won't replicate years of military training by shooting a few rounds from an AR-15.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The Antifa have discovered the 2nd Amendment and are buying to take on the Deplorables.

Cool, more 2A supporters. Because if they are going to take guns, they will take theirs as well. Noting in VA it only states type of weapon not political affiliation.

As a side note, from what I've seen, those on the left aren't anything to worry about, except maybe getting hit by a stray, as they spray the area.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
I'm afraid that even with all those statistics that the militia isn't going to stop a thing.

That could well be. Deterrence fails for a lot of reasons, and misguided psychology on the part of those who logically should be deterred is the usual cause. That is of course IF you visualize the role of the militia as deterrence and not actual combat. It has been a while since anyone pushed hard enough to find out what the outcome of activating a few million militias of one might be.
 

Doomer Doug

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Um, the Armed Militia in Oregon, and not very many of them either, went to Salem and our Marxist, Bisexual Governor backed right off, after the head of the State Patrol had a chat with her. It is also a fact that during the Klamath Lake stop water flow to the farmers when dozens of ARMED farmers showed up to deal with the Jack Booted Thugs the federales sent in to bully them, THEY BACKED FASTER THAN A JACKRABBIT.

The thing you all need to remember about these liberals is they are COWARDS, and only attack in wolfpacks and if you glare at them hard, they will slink away.

If Ruby Ridge had 100 armed patriots doing perimeter patrol, the FBI would have run away in terror.
 

The Mountain

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I've heard from different Youtubers that Americans are in possession of upwards of 50 to 60 trillion rounds of ammo.
I'm not sure, but if so, I need to take out another mortgage or rob a bank or something because apparently I'm short a few rounds.

I could maybe buy 100 billion, but 50 trillion, spread across 75 million gun owners, works out to over half a million rounds per gun owner.
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I wouldn't assume that all ex-military are conservatives; as I understand it some gangs send their younger members into the military for the training (for one example). There is also a group called VoteVets (votevets.org) which advertises itself as a "progressive political organization".
 
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Hi-D

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Um, the Armed Militia in Oregon, and not very many of them either, went to Salem and our Marxist, Bisexual Governor backed right off, after the head of the State Patrol had a chat with her. It is also a fact that during the Klamath Lake stop water flow to the farmers when dozens of ARMED farmers showed up to deal with the Jack Booted Thugs the federales sent in to bully them, THEY BACKED FASTER THAN A JACKRABBIT.

The thing you all need to remember about these liberals is they are COWARDS, and only attack in wolfpacks and if you glare at them hard, they will slink away.

If Ruby Ridge had 100 armed patriots doing perimeter patrol, the FBI would have run away in terror.

Hey, right up by my house they killed a guy. They called him "tarp man", less than a mile up the road.

Ever seen the gas stored at Hermiston. "Nits make lice"
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
No one who is behaving themselves properly has any reason to be afraid of anyone else who is behaving themselves properly. At all.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Um, the Armed Militia in Oregon, and not very many of them either, went to Salem and our Marxist, Bisexual Governor backed right off, after the head of the State Patrol had a chat with her. It is also a fact that during the Klamath Lake stop water flow to the farmers when dozens of ARMED farmers showed up to deal with the Jack Booted Thugs the federales sent in to bully them, THEY BACKED FASTER THAN A JACKRABBIT.

The thing you all need to remember about these liberals is they are COWARDS, and only attack in wolfpacks and if you glare at them hard, they will slink away.

If Ruby Ridge had 100 armed patriots doing perimeter patrol, the FBI would have run away in terror.

its good to remember that swat teams are EXCELLENT at frontal assaults on specific structures . . . but they are really poor at doing them when surrounded by several dozen really pissed off neighbors.

lots of talk about going door to door to separate weapons from their rightful owners. that will come to a screeching halt when the their ranks are thinned by those who feel otherwise.
 

Randy in Arizona

Senior Member
Well, I did some calculating and came up with 4,909 rounds per armed person in the USA. (8.1^9 / 1.65^6 = 4,909)
I figured I was well ahead of the curve.
THEN I noticed the ammo figure was rounds produced PER YEAR!
Darn! I better buy more ammo!

483 :hmm: :shkr: :hof:
 

Sammy55

Veteran Member
Well, I did some calculating and came up with 4,909 rounds per armed person in the USA. (8.1^9 / 1.65^6 = 4,909)
I figured I was well ahead of the curve.
THEN I noticed the ammo figure was rounds produced PER YEAR!
Darn! I better buy more ammo!

483 :hmm: :shkr: :hof:

And that's not taking into account the number of rounds used to practice and keep up skills. So this number is highly possible!
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
I could maybe buy 100 billion, but 50 trillion, spread across 75 million gun owners, works out to over half a million rounds per gun owner.

Yeah at a rate of just under 10 billion per year, it would take 10 years to make the first 1/10 of a trillion. That is if no one shoots a single round. There is a reason the industry made 8.1 billion in 2018. It was because there was a demand for that 8.1 billion.....we are using what they make. Stop making it and we will run out in months.

Yeah, there will be a number of people who have stocks, but they are the minority.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
its good to remember that swat teams are EXCELLENT at frontal assaults on specific structures . . . but they are really poor at doing them when surrounded by several dozen really pissed off neighbors.

lots of talk about going door to door to separate weapons from their rightful owners. that will come to a screeching halt when the their ranks are thinned by those who feel otherwise.

That's because they are trained to attack a specific point. They are not trained for warfare.
 

Elza

Veteran Member
The Armed Militia Or Why the Marxist Morons Should be Afraid Of Deplorables

They ARE afraid. This is why they are pushing so hard to get our guns. They know what is coming and how close it is. They are rapidly running out of time and they know it. Hence the ramping up of gun confiscation.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Now that open treason has been engaged by the Marxist Democrat House, with the impeachment vote, the US Senate will have to come up with 67 votes for actual impeachment to happen. Still, there will be no stopping the Marxist Democrat Traitors now, and as in 1775, Revolution/Civil War Two will break out when "they" come for our guns, and we give them lead instead!

It is game on now.
 
That's because they are trained to attack a specific point. They are not trained for warfare.

Easy there. We had quite a few cops in my old Guard unit -Light Infantry, a few of them were what passes for SWAT in our neck of the woods. Yes, we are a "podunk" area, but still, they had and have military training. Most of the guys in the Battalion Scout Plt. were hunters too. We had guys come from as far away as mainland Virginia to be a part of the unit.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
_______________
Heh-heh-heh

They fear armed deplorables?

Stupid fecks should fear what's in our head...not what's in our hands.
 

hd5574

Veteran Member
Well, I did some calculating and came up with 4,909 rounds per armed person in the USA. (8.1^9 / 1.65^6 = 4,909)
I figured I was well ahead of the curve.
THEN I noticed the ammo figure was rounds produced PER YEAR!
Darn! I better buy more ammo!

483 :hmm: :shkr: :hof:

Then there are the reloaders.
 

Coco82919

Veteran Member
I am one of those people they will say that I had "thousands" of rounds, all I have is 6 boxes of .22.

Yes. They go crazy on the news when someone has a few hundred rounds of ammo and more then one gun. One box of 22LR use to be 19.99 at Walmart They came in a box of 550 rounds in a box. I use to buy 4 boxes at a time when ever I went to WalMart about once every month or two. They still sell them but for a bit more. We use to be able to drive just out of town and shoot at cans in the desert for fun. Those days are gone.
 

samus79

Veteran Member
Don’t fall into the false belief that the leftist soy boys don’t have any military training or combat experience. I can’t find anything that states numbers of people trained, but antifa and other commies from the US and Europe have been training with and fighting alongside the communist SDF Kurds in Syria. And it appears they have been doing this with the intention of bringing that experience back here to the states. Never underestimate your enemy.

A quick google search will show a plethora of articles on the topic.

https://www.google.com/search?sourc...0i10j46i10i275j46i10j0i22i30.91MDkNhNcbk#ip=1

And here is a link to one of those many articles:

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/unite...d-kurdish-forces-fight-side-by-side-in-syria/
 

ArisenCarcass

Veteran Member
Yeah at a rate of just under 10 billion per year, it would take 10 years to make the first 1/10 of a trillion. That is if no one shoots a single round. There is a reason the industry made 8.1 billion in 2018. It was because there was a demand for that 8.1 billion.....we are using what they make. Stop making it and we will run out in months.

Yeah, there will be a number of people who have stocks, but they are the minority.

I think that there is demand because many "gun people" also prep and "stock up."
The lean years of the Great Obama Ammo Shortage taught many the lesson of "buy cheap, stack it deep."
I don't for a second think that all of the 8 billion rounds produced for the US market was shot up last year (or any previous year).

If they "stop making it," it will probably be the impetus for the boogaloo, since profits run business and the government would have to be involved in stopping businesses from pursuing profits (i.e. backdoor gun invalidation).
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Means have been amply discussed on this thread; how about motivation?

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Watchman2

Veteran Member
The Constitution

Article 8

Sections 15 and 16


The context of any type of major disaster, natural or manmade, here in CONUS must be the reality of the armed militia, which as the Founding Fathers put it, was made up of all males 17 years old to 55 years old and all the weapons they owned, under the 2nd Amendment.

The thing the Marxist Morons don't get, or the clowns in Virginia don't quite understand is, as the following link and story show, the armed militia can take them all out, no problem, and without breaking a sweat. The ATF tells us, yes, the ATF, American citizens own a staggering 423 MILLION PERSONAL WEAPONS, WITH COMBINED WITH 8 PLUS BILLION, YES BILLION, ROUNDS OF AMMO. The reality is also that 50 percent of the American people own guns, and roughly 50 percent don't, which places the Blue Smurfs, trapped in their "gun free zones," and their Marxist Democrat gun grabbers totally at the mercy of the armed militia, ie the one half that are armed.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-per-person-8-1-billion-rounds-of-ammo-a-year

Opinion: Washington Secrets
ATF: 423M guns in America, 1.2 per person, 8.1B rounds of ammunition a year
by Paul Bedard
| December 04, 2019 09:43 AM

America’s love affair with guns is only getting stronger.

New federal data shows that there are 422.9 million firearms in circulation, or about 1.2 guns for every person in the country.:usfl:

What’s more, despite years of criticism of modern “assault-style” rifles such as the AR-15 and AK-47, there are a record 17.7 million in private hands, proving that it is the most popular gun around.

And last year alone, the arms industry produced 8.1 billion rounds of ammunition.:shkr:

The figures are from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives and were crunched by the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the gun industry trade group.

“These figures show the industry that America has a strong desire to continue to purchase firearms for lawful purposes,” said Joe Bartozzi, president of the NSSF, in a statement releasing the group’s new report.

“The modern sporting rifle continues to be the most popular centerfire rifle sold in America today and is clearly a commonly owned firearm with more than 17 million in legal private ownership today. The continued popularity of handguns demonstrates a strong interest by Americans to protect themselves and their homes and to participate in the recreational shooting sports,” he said.

Gun shops contacted by Secrets said that they are seeing more and more purchases of semiautomatic weapons such as handguns and AR-15s due to the criticism of those guns by 2020 Democratic presidential candidates.

“Sales have definitely been brisk, especially of small, concealable handguns. We also saw a spike in sales of tactical rifles like AR-15s and AK-47s, for which I think we can confidently thank Beto O’Rourke,” said Justin Anderson, the marketing director for Hyatt Guns in Charlotte, North Carolina, one of the country’s biggest retailers.


During his short presidential campaign, O'Rourke called for a ban on the rifles.

Other details from the NSSF report, shared with Secrets:

Of all rifles produced in 2017, 54% were modern sporting rifles.
In 2017, 7,901,218 total firearms were produced and imported. Of those, 4,411,923 were pistols and revolvers, 2,821,945 were rifles, and 667,350 were shotguns.

An interim 2018 estimate showed 7,660,772 total firearms were produced and imported. Of those, 4,277,971 were pistols and revolvers, 2,846,757 were rifles, and 535,994 were shotguns.

Firearms-ammunition manufacturing accounted for nearly 12,000 employees producing more than $4.1 billion in goods shipped in 2017.

An estimated 8.1 billion rounds, of all calibers and gauges, were produced in 2018 for the U.S. market.
 

Watchman2

Veteran Member
1. How many swat members are Russians held over from the training from 2013 to 2015, and dispersed into the interstate quick response teams?

2. How many of them are US Combat Veterans?
That's because they are trained to attack a specific point. They are not trained for warfare.

They might be trained to attack a specific point in their job but that does not necessarily account for their portfolio. a Very high percent of our local deputies, state troopers and ATF agents in our area are combat vets and such........
 

West

Senior
Heh-heh-heh

They fear armed deplorables?

Stupid fecks should fear what's in our head...not what's in our hands.

Good point.

I've only knew of a few lefty liberals who can fix or repair anything they use every day and or need to even survive.

The creatures are surely soft and most have nice lips though.
 

Disciple

Veteran Member
I have two cousins (vets) from the Vietnam era that are the MOST RADICAL antifa types you can imagine. Never seen men so full of hate.
 

WTSR

Veteran Member
What they Pelosi's of the world are afraid of is if a Guy like Trump would be willing to 'Call out the Militia to Suppress Insurrection', if a few million respond it would be a formidable force if properly trained and lead.
 

Hi-D

Membership Revoked
Did you vote for this?

Now that open treason has been engaged by the Marxist Democrat House, with the impeachment vote, the US Senate will have to come up with 67 votes for actual impeachment to happen. Still, there will be no stopping the Marxist Democrat Traitors now, and as in 1775, Revolution/Civil War Two will break out when "they" come for our guns, and we give them lead instead!

It is game on now.

If so, live with your choices. If you do not vote like myself, you should already be fine with those choices but prepared for them. We earn what we receive. Some want to be part of the world others jUSt watch it.

http://www.google.com/search?ei=EtT...&ved=0ahUKEwjFoN6l-6PmAhVqFTQIHeZMC7YQ4dUDCAo
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
I have two cousins (vets) from the Vietnam era

Ya know, there are veterans and then there are VETERANS.

Some veterans peeled potatoes and scrubbed pots (big pots, but still pots).

Some veterans killed the enemy hand to hand.

IMO not all veterans are created equal. YMMV of course.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
My point is we will face the same decision the Patriots in 1775 faced when the British came to physically seize the "arms and cannons of the militia." I am Vietnam Era, which mean anybody in any of the 5 service branches from March of 1964 to March of 1975. I was volunteer after the draft ended, and went to Europe after the Vietnam "war" ended in January of 1973, along with the end of the draft. And yes, only about 10 % of the troops sent to Vietnam ever saw combat at all.

Hopefully, this can be resolved without violence, but I am not counting on it at all. I have also met some liberal Vietnam Vets, for the simple reason the US military was mostly draftee back then, and you didn't get the same mass of clone like volunteers, lusting to be Imperial Legionaires you get with a true Volunteer military. Of course, even Vietnam Era Vets like moi are in their mid 60' now!:vik:
 

Hi-D

Membership Revoked
When I was a young man.

My point is we will face the same decision the Patriots in 1775 faced when the British came to physically seize the "arms and cannons of the militia." I am Vietnam Era, which mean anybody in any of the 5 service branches from March of 1964 to March of 1975. I was volunteer after the draft ended, and went to Europe after the Vietnam "war" ended in January of 1973, along with the end of the draft. And yes, only about 10 % of the troops sent to Vietnam ever saw combat at all.

Hopefully, this can be resolved without violence, but I am not counting on it at all. I have also met some liberal Vietnam Vets, for the simple reason the US military was mostly draftee back then, and you didn't get the same mass of clone like volunteers, lusting to be Imperial Legionaires you get with a true Volunteer military. Of course, even Vietnam Era Vets like moi are in their mid 60' now!:vik:

I was the 35th person to arrive at the 2/75th. These two were already there.

http://www.fpri.org/contributor/major-general-geoffrey-lambert-us-army-ret/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._Howard

PT was early and the days were long. I probably have a different world view than you. That's alright. JUSt remember people like me did not care what civilians thought about the boss. Left or right.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Hi-D,

I didn't know Lambert, but COL Howard was at JFK while I was there. If he let you stay at 2/75, you must have been OK :D
 
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