Storrage space

tangent

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broken out from another thread:

> There is always a tradeoff on storage options in terms of space, container cost, food stability etc. I have for 3 years now stored rice in the original 50 lb sacks and can't find any evidence of any problems. They are stored inside at around 65-70 deg. I store beans, flour and a few other things that I think are more perishable in mylar lined 5 gal pails with an oxygen absorber. Even though initially I thought I had a lot of storage space I could maintain at around 65-70 deg it sure gets used up fast. I have found that in the case of rolled oats I can transfer the 25 lb bulk bags to the standard 5-6 gal mylar bags and store these on top of each other up to a depth of 5 bags. Just when it seems like I run out of all conceivable storage space I come up with another idea for cramming more into what space I'm using or some new space altogether. Needless to say many of the ideas come from this forum.
Para.

This seems like a constant probem for everyone. I know one person that has kind of a maze in a back room - narrow corredors, shelves facing in on both sides. In the rafters, plywood is tacked up at intervals and preps stored there. in nooks and crannies 2 liter bottles of grain are tucked...

Maximum stacking height is an issue, many times w/ space near the ceiling wasted. A good argument for shelves. cheap ones can be made with cinderblocks and boards or sometimes bookshelves can be found on sale. Weight becomes an issue, however.

Being a little more creative - have you ever seen record storrage rooms? The type where the shelves are on rails and roll, so they can be collapsed right next to each other. You might be able to build such a creature by bolting a couple of bookshelves back to back and adding large wheels to the bottom... the kind that don't rotate arround but roll back and forth only. Likewise, placing wheels on pallets and adding a tow rope so you could get back to pallets behind the front ones.

Think like a submarine or space station. No wasted space, floor, walls or ceiling. If you have the headroom or don't mind crouching, build a raised floor and stash stuff there.

you can also suspend lighter weight stuff from hooks in the ceiling...

on shelving, consider a serpentine layout, basicaly building shelving in "U" shaped arraingements, and against another set, on the oposite wall, with the legs, of one in the hollows of the other. That creates very narrow passages (remember it has to be wide enough for you widest prep - prob a 5 gal bucket - no big deal), but the traditional straight walkway down the middle isn't really ideal for maximizing space unless all you have is a hallway to deal with. Speaking of which, hallways are generally underused for storrage space.

just some thoughts, others?

-t
 

gillmanNSF

Veteran Member
I think most of us store preps in two dimensions up and across, have no clue as to what you're talking about. :lol: The idea of a store room is beyond my comprehension, but fascinating nonetheless. For me, I see a wall, slap some shelving units against it, BAM! No it doesn't all come crashing down.

I like storage cabinets and closets as opposed to open shelving, both in my garage and up in my apartment. I spend oodles on cabinets that look like fine furniture for my living space and I will be spending a small sum on shiny, grey laminate units made for the garage. I like the fact that I can conceal the contents and lock them up as well.
 

tangent

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OK - board survey time!

1) how do you currently store stuff?

2) how would you like to store stuff - if different?

3) what limits have you hit? (how high can you stack 5 gal buckets, etc.)

-t
 

Lurking LRRP

Contributing Member
I store general equipment in the garage, food in the closet under the stairs, water drums in the store room

Lurking LRRP:wvflg:
 

NVBadBoy

Senior Member
My current storage methods are 2 - 40 foot metal shipping containers. I bought them from the local Sani-Hut dealer in Reno and had them painted to match the terrain where the house is. Pricey, but no problems with either of them for over 5 years. There are 2 heavy-duty lockable doors at the front of the units. They have no dents, leaks and show no signs of rust. Yes, they are expensive, but if you want cubic footage and trouble-free storage for many, many years, this is the way to go.


NVBadBoy
 

hitssquad

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Computerized inventories and radial cranes for storage

tangent said:
2) how would you like to store stuff
Computer-controlled radial crane.
monolithic.com/gallery/industrial/calamco

cal_in_lg.jpg
cal_crane_lg.jpg


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In the center of each dome sits a 100-foot-tall cooling tower that doubles as the pivot point for a large, computer controlled crane. This crane automatically places and removes large containers that hold 26 bins of apples. Each container weighs over 13 tons.
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Product stacking inside a Dome allows for a circular aisle along the inside perimeter of the Dome, as well as a center aisle. This allows for better utilization of space and travel time to load and retrieve product is minimal for both automated and manual retrieval.
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tangent

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pnumatic forms and sprayed ferocement structure - very affordable - exp compared to usual housing...

robotic lift system, capable of lifting 13 tons and moving it arround... ummm.. I think we are talking some serious bucks here....

lets see:

invent time machine and travel back in time - check

rob bank - check

take advantage of Micro$hafts IPO - check

be able to afford this - check

-t

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hitssquad

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Cranes come in different sizes

tangent said:
pnumatic forms and sprayed ferocement structure [...] compared to usual housing.
The costs of thin-shell construction are comparable to those of standard construction. If you can afford a custom stick-built house, you can afford a custom thin-shell home.
bbs.monolithic.com/viewtopic.php?p=8393&highlight=100+150+200#8393


tangent said:
robotic lift [...] I think we are talking some serious bucks here....
Many people have cranes installed in their garages. The apple-storage facility was provided as an example of the type of crane, not the scale. No essential properties of that crane are stopping you from scaling it to a radius of ten feet and a lift capacity of one ton or less.
 

Spot

Veteran Member
We have no 5 gallon buckets with food in them . We store most of our dry goods in quart jars that we vacuume seal. It includes rice , potato flakes , different types of beans , pasta , flour , and anything that is dry . We also have rice in 2 liter drink bottles . Everything that is stored in the quart jars is either in the origional box that the jars came in or in copy paper boxes . Also in these boxes we have a lot of canned food . We have a room that has these boxes all along the walls , about 6 ft high. The 2 liter bottles are stored under a work bench in the room also .
Spot
 
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