ENER South Australia Lost All Power due to Storms. Liberals killed backup Coal & Gas Generation

paul bunyan

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
:siren::siren::siren:

Freaky weather has knocked out the power to basically the whole state of South Australia, including its capital city, Adelaide.

Large spring storms blasting southern coast of the State of South Australia. Utilities say to charge up your cell phones !!!!:boohoo:

Experts estimate over 70,000 lightning strikes have crushed their utility grid. The grid had to shut down to protect it's self.

I hope they got all those poor people out of all those elevators by now.

Liberal Politicians and Citizens forced an unsustainable Renewable Energy Program down the common folks throats.

Renewable energy generation is currently at 0%, heh, but was running at around 40%.

They have no or few coal or gas backup generation facilities
:sht::sht::sht:


The Australian State Without Power

A severe weather system knocked out power for all 1.7 million people in South Australia.


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Reuters
Power was being slowly restored Wednesday in South Australia after a severe weather system knocked out power in the entire state of 1.7 million people.
The outage began at 3:50 p.m. Wednesday after 22 power-transmission lines and 22 towers across the state were knocked out by storms. This caused the entire system to shut down in order to protect itself, shutting down traffic lights, public transit, and other services in the state that’s larger in area than Texas in area.
“The system has behaved as it’s meant to behave to protect the national energy market,” Jay Weatherill, the South Australian premier, said. He said the state was hit by more than 80,000 lightning strikes, many hitting the power infrastructure. There were no deaths or injuries reported.
Adelaide, the state’s biggest city where the overwhelming majority of South Australians live, was the worst affected.
But by late Wednesday evening, SA Power Networks, the utility that earlier urged South Australians to “please brace for extended outages and ensure you conserve mobile device battery,” said it was in the process of restoring electricity to parts to the city.
Power to the entire state is expected to be restored by early Thursday. Huffington Post Australia reported that the state’s “backup base load generators are slowly repowering the system.”
Still, the extreme weather isn’t going away. The Bureau of Meteorology said the region would continue to be affected Thursday by heavy rains and strong winds.
South Australia has been governed in recent years by the center-left Labor Party and the government’s focus on renewable energy, which accounts for 40 percent of all power generated in the state, is already coming under scrutiny from opposition lawmakers.
“This is a disgrace,” Senator Nick Xenophon an independent lawmaker from South Australia told ABC, the Australian broadcaster. “How did this happen? How is an entire state blacked out?”
He added: “We have relied too much on wind rather than baseload renewables, rather than baseload power, including gas which is a fossil fuel but it is 50 per cent cleaner than coal and a good transitional fuel.”
Josh Frydenberg, the federal federal energy minister, who’s from the center-right Liberal Party, told ABC that he believed that traditional sources of power were more stable.
“That does raise questions for the stability of the system—not just for supply, because when the wind is not blowing and the sun is not shining, electricity is not being generated—but also for the stability of the system because of the frequency that is generated as opposed to base-load power which has historically been more coal and more gas,” he said.
But, he added: “So questions are raised by the virtue of the increasing amount of renewables, but it has to be underlined that this was a weather event which led to this occurrence.”
He said the cause of the blackout would be investigated.


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http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/09/south-australia-power-outage/
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
My sister lives just outside of Adelaide on an acreage and her husband and son are working away from home, so she is alone with the cats.

I told her to have a flashlight and boots beside the bed - she is used to the power going out and if it was shutdown for prevention, it might not take too long to have it back up. She is used to outages and had her campstove and battery lights at the ready.

Oh, she also had a good book and a box of chocolates.......a true Prepper!
 

jenzie

Membership Revoked
wouldn't have mattered what backup generation anyone had, the grid STILL would have gone down due to the weather!
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Not necessarily. "The grid" is an intertie system where multiple power generation stations are all tied-in. If a significant part of generation goes offline, other connected generating stations will disconnect in order to avoid overstressing them. Technically, those generation plants are still perfectly functional, but cannot be brought back online in a haphazard way. It has to be coordinated with all the others.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Not necessarily. "The grid" is an intertie system where multiple power generation stations are all tied-in. If a significant part of generation goes offline, other connected generating stations will disconnect in order to avoid overstressing them. Technically, those generation plants are still perfectly functional, but cannot be brought back online in a haphazard way. It has to be coordinated with all the others.


They have to send someone out and pull the fuses that connect to the affected part of the grid and have it isolated and then they can fire up the system again. This task should take no more than an hour to complete.
 

Scarletbreasted

Galloping geriatric
The situation in South Australia (my old "home town") is acerbated by the fact that due to the green pollies having had the Govt. DESTROy the last major coal power station back in May 2016, there was no fall back!!! (Or going back!)

Amazingly they are now finding out that Wind generators automatically shut down and lock their blade horizontal in high winds = NO POWER

SA buys a LOT of power from across it's Eastern border from coal powered stations located in Victoria (who sensibly have some still in full use) - these also supply power to Tasmania via a cable on the sea bed of Bass Strait, from their Yallourne power station (NB: Victoria and South Australia are going to get hammered again today!!

The last count was 22 main towers down (Some confusion in the reports as some towers are actually Wind generating towers - not the huge high tension cable towers) The situation at local time 9.00 am 29 Sept is that the mid and far North of the state will be without power for days to weeks.
 
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Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Incidents like this are blaring warning signs that you should take emergency power generation into your own hands as much as possible. You can start small with emergency candles, lanterns, batteries and 12 volt LEDs. Add an inverter to operate off of your vehicle and you are on your way. Exapand the system as time and finances allow. A little electricity puts you miles ahead of the crowds who are powerless. It doesn't take a lot of generating power to operate a small freezer for an hour or so a day and charge batteries for lighting. More batteries in your battery bank allow you to add electric fans and - depending on the size of your inverter and alternator - even run a small air conditioner. As your system grows, you can add solar and a diesel generator.

Doing this in small bites is easier for the budget to digest than trying to do everything at once. Try to buy components that will be compatible with the larger system you are building down the road. 12 VDC and 115 VAC LED lights are so inexpensive now that lighting, unlike in prior years, is nearly free. There is no reason to at least have lighting in a power blackout.

Best regards
Doc
 
Funny (not ha ha) how the OP blames the lib politicians.

Now I'm not an Australian political expert but weren't those politicians put there by the PEOPLE? And if so - phuck 'em. They got what they wanted.

Yes, there is some collateral damage for those that didn't ask for it but that majority rules things can be a real Hillary...I mean bitch.


Hope those smart enough down under are prepping or start prepping. I think it'll only get worse.
 

Scarletbreasted

Galloping geriatric
Sadly in Australia, the situation is basically the same Federally as by State - which of the two assholes do we elect (We have had 4-5 Prime Ministers in the last 7 years!!) LOTS of political backstabbing - One got the chop, got back in, and got the chop again!!
sb
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I don't get it. Historically, I've thought of Oz as the kingdom of independent thinkers and rugged individualists. When did the country become so pussified, and more importantly, WHY did they? I'd really, really love to know that.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
I don't get it. Historically, I've thought of Oz as the kingdom of independent thinkers and rugged individualists. When did the country become so pussified, and more importantly, WHY did they? I'd really, really love to know that.

The same time and for the same reasons as us, Dennis. (Feminism in a country is like Kaposi's Sarcoma in an AIDS patient; it only comes up when the host is otherwise already weakened.)
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Basically, they are sitting in the dark, because of a bunch of liberals.

The level of stupidity of people, never fails to amaze me.

Be safe everyone, and arm up.

Regards to all deplorables,
Nowski
 

Scarletbreasted

Galloping geriatric
Ok Dennis - here is the answer to your question................
Australia is in such a bad way due to an amalgamation of three things which are really one
!. The Unions
2. The Labor Party(The last and first female Labor Prime Minister donated 30 million to the Clinton Foundation without asking the rate payers)
3. Another contributing factor, which is not just In Oz, is the madness of the "Political correctness gone mad situation" linked with the minor "Greenie" tree hugging party
Our current "Ruling party" (National-Liberal) only rules with a one seat majority (and that looks kinda unstable right now!!) sb
 

Thunderdog9

Member
OK! Here goes!
To add to Scarletbreasted comment:
The power in South Australia is largely owned by Chinese and Malaysian investors who have struck a deal to max profit and lower benchmark on infrastructure upgrade work. This is State and Federal approved apparently.
A succinct article about a State grid and its manipulation for greed that results in complete stuphups go here:
https://themarcusreview.com/2016/03/16/tasmanias-energy-scandal/
I am in Tasmania and the article is completely factual. Extrapolate it to South Australia and you sort of get the idea.
In the last power outage we were black for a day or so. A few weeks later we received a cheque of $80 for hardship. That's the deal you see. If the power company trips up over a certain length of time each account gets an $80 payment in compensation. Such joy.
BTW it's bucketing down. Expecting 100mm (4 inches) now. Land is waterlogged. Flood warnings are being posted. Good fun eh?
Meanwhile, back in South Australia, the Whyalla steel blasting facilities are without power and the furnaces are cool and the molten metal is solidifying while being processed in the systems which frankly f**ks 'em and the workers are on notice and... well, you get the idea.
Cheers,
 
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