Monkeywrench
Land Owner
Hitler was elected too-(I am a registered Democrat and have voted both parties-for the person, not the party.)
Sore losers or something?
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Hitler was elected too-(I am a registered Democrat and have voted both parties-for the person, not the party.)
BL225128
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ichoric wrote:
"You know who you are...
1. The draft is coming to a Union near you, because of Obama.
2. Required military service is coming soon, because of Obama.
3. All of the natural resources in America will be owned by the Chinese soon.
4. That Obama is going to raise taxes across the board and ship all the funds back to Kenya."
Actually, the Boy Kenyanesian campaigned on ideas 1, 2 and 4 (#4 in reference to his "Impoverish American Taxpayers for the UN and the Turd World" bill.
As far as the election goes, I will show the same level of kindness and support to "Present" Bobo that the left had shown to Chimpy the First.
"You know who you are...
1. The draft is coming to a Union near you, because of Obama.
2. Required military service is coming soon, because of Obama.
3. All of the natural resources in America will be owned by the Chinese soon.
4. That Obama is going to raise taxes across the board and ship all the funds back to Kenya."
Actually, the Boy Kenyanesian campaigned on ideas 1, 2 and 4 (#4 in reference to his "Impoverish American Taxpayers for the UN and the Turd World" bill.
As far as the election goes, I will show the same level of kindness and support to "Present" Bobo that the left had shown to Chimpy the First.
notred
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Were we talking about the outcome of a sporting event, say a football game, the OPs post would not be so assine. We are talking about the final swing to a Eurosocialist, or worse, government. That will impact my children and their children and that pisses me off.
Sore losers or mourners for what has died...
Sore losers or mourners for what has died...
What has died, died 8 years ago when monkey-boy started his reign....
kozanne
Inactive
I'd go back even further than that, Dennis. I think what the deal is that this man will, with the help of his equally corrupt cronies, do his level best to render the final blow. We are realizing this now.
The Chicago political machine and George Soros will demand no less.
notred
Inactive
Glad you are not a coroner, Dennis.
fruit loop
Inactive
Anger, disappointment, and bitterness are to be expected. What disturbs me is the way some people are so angry that they are ending friendships and banishing family members. Over an election???
I'm certain people have weathered worse disagreements in their personal and community relationships, so why cut off people you care about over a VOTE???
Dislike and hatred for the candidate are understandable - I can most certainly relate to that, as an anti-Bush voter - but for his supporters? I'll hate a candidate, and argue why I think their position is wrong, and I'll probably tell you that "you asked for it since you voted for it" but I'm NOT going to say "You voted for X so I hate your guts and you are my lifelong enemy for it." That makes no sense to me.
I'm certain people have weathered worse disagreements in their personal and community relationships, so why cut off people you care about over a VOTE???
Dislike and hatred for the candidate are understandable - I can most certainly relate to that, as an anti-Bush voter - but for his supporters? I'll hate a candidate, and argue why I think their position is wrong, and I'll probably tell you that "you asked for it since you voted for it" but I'm NOT going to say "You voted for X so I hate your guts and you are my lifelong enemy for it." That makes no sense to me.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
With your predilictions for the War of Northern Agression, you should understand the phenomenon. Or at least have a frame of reference.
(BTW, the FL I've been missing during the past few weeks seems to be coming back. Hello.
)
fruit loop
Inactive
True, Searcher. I also think that war could have been prevented with some old-fashioned diplomacy. Unfortunately neither side was willing to bend.
The South was also cursed by men like John Calhoun (for whom I have an intense dislike) who had wanted secession for years anyway because they saw it as another Revolution where they could found their own country and gain more personal power.
The North touted the "no division" plus slavery and other issues as an excuse to exert control over states who kept invoking the Constitution. War was a way to toss out "the piece of paper" by force of arms.
And both sides sucked the common man into fighting with ringing words about patriotism.....isn't that how it usually goes.
P.S. Hugs to you, Searcher.
The South was also cursed by men like John Calhoun (for whom I have an intense dislike) who had wanted secession for years anyway because they saw it as another Revolution where they could found their own country and gain more personal power.
The North touted the "no division" plus slavery and other issues as an excuse to exert control over states who kept invoking the Constitution. War was a way to toss out "the piece of paper" by force of arms.
And both sides sucked the common man into fighting with ringing words about patriotism.....isn't that how it usually goes.
P.S. Hugs to you, Searcher.
Utopianwar
A Loon With A Capgun
Well we can't say what is gonna happen for sure with the exception of his own words, or his own beliefs. The draft may or may not happen. But he does wanna draft us into a civil defense task force. in doing so he could use it as a means to induce martial law if the situation occurred where the opportunity is present. Which isn't that hard.... like war time powers. Now here is the thing, Obama wants to cut the military, and boost our in country power, so there is the possibility we could have Martial law. As for the Chinese, that's bit of an overstatement, but could happen, not necessary because of Obama. And yes he will raise taxes it's what dems do. Though dunno about the funds going to Kenya , most likely they will go to his massive Corps program.
Though I know you not referring to me, just thought I would put my anti-Obamanation cents out there. Because I do try to be fair, even if I cannot stand a politician, I still want my facts to line up.
But also I do know what you mean by people predicting specific events which they have no clue about actually happening. Though that's not to say they are wrong, just taking a very big step of faith on what they think is gonna happen and then saying it will happen for sure. I think they are talking about an opinion they feel and get wrapped up in it to the point where it is reality. Me I hope I am wrong about Obama, it's just due to his beliefs and words, I know most likely I am not. If nothing else I have zero respect for a President supporting Abortion and using freedom as an excuse for it to continue to stay a law. To me that is using what we real Americans hold dear as a scapegoat for their inhumane beliefs.
Also, we are assuming voting actually gets the president. As Obama backer George Soros said the Liberal party is bought and paid for. And I know that since I am currently stuck in IL, that my vote wouldn't even come close to hitting the scale of the electoral votes, because too many dems in this state. Had my way about, (regardless of who is president) popular vote would be the deciding vote period. But I don't have it my way. Which I understand not all people can have things their way, but this to me would make for more freedom.
And don't be silly, Obama all by himself turning this country into a full blown commie country? Now, now he will have others that work with him, and financial backers and congress to help with that. He's not the only bad here, just the good looking history making one; who has a passion for what this country is not. (Which would be his idiotic beliefs.)
Overall, words of any poly-tic, are nothing more than nails into the coffin of liberty. Just Obama just so happens to be a nail gun.
FL, you more than most should remember an earlier time in our country when political differences broke up families, in many cases for good. Brother against brother, husband against wife, etc.
It was called the Civil War (or War Between the States if you will).
Remember that...?
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Your knowledge of the war is much greater than mine, but the divisiveness of that time is undeniable, even for those of us with the basic publik skrool education. We have similar conditions thrust upon us now, with giant, clear-cut chunks of the country disagreeing more than I've ever seen in my lifetime. And it is flowing like a whitewater into individual families.
kozanne
Inactive
Regardless of who helps 0bama, his name is on the administration. He is responsible for the outcome. Works this way in the workplace as well. The buck will stop with him, unless the newspeak MSM smokescreens it [which they surely will].
Another poster on this board told me about a CNN commentator bursting into tears when the election was declared for 0bama. Live. That sealed it. The MSM is a propaganda tool and journalistic integrity on their part is a dead horse.
Our greatest threat right now is the Fairness Doctrine, and the people that still believe in the Republic are going to have to figure out how to communicate ALL the truth by other less conventional means.
Another poster on this board told me about a CNN commentator bursting into tears when the election was declared for 0bama. Live. That sealed it. The MSM is a propaganda tool and journalistic integrity on their part is a dead horse.
Our greatest threat right now is the Fairness Doctrine, and the people that still believe in the Republic are going to have to figure out how to communicate ALL the truth by other less conventional means.
fruit loop
Inactive
Dennis and Searcher - read up on the war in Missouri. I think it was at its worst there. Rent the movie "Ride With the Devil" starring Tobey Maguire. People think Sherman was bad, but the acts committed by both sides in Missouri were horrific.
That's exactly the kind of thing to which I refer, and never want to see again.
That's exactly the kind of thing to which I refer, and never want to see again.
Utopianwar
A Loon With A Capgun
True. Also I have an opinion, but it is just that, an opinion. That is the anti-Christ in the end times won't be just one man. It will be many, as the beast is decsribed as having many heads, I look at it as a metophor. And I do believe Obama is one of those heads. But I also know that in the bible that the US isn't mentioned at all. So it begs the question. If the anti-Christ does gain power here in the states, then what happens to the US, and how does he/she manage to go back to Isreal? Though I have a bit long answer to that though just in my opinion, the point is that Obama is a part of something bad. And he is the new face of a new era. Not meaning that in a good way.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
What strikes me, in a pop-culture kind of way, is something Skip1 links to all the time, the Babylon5-esque nature of all of this.
For those of you are not fans, it might interest you to know that the writer of show, JM Stracynski (sp?) was all about social commentary, from a fairly conservative libertarian mindset. He was especially scathing on the role of the media in shaping public opinion, or even outright lies to protect the power base. The fictional major network for the Earthers was 'ISN' and after a coup that arced over four seasons of the show, they parroted the official party line of the dictator.
I see that JMS was correct in his suspicions, every time the real MSM opens its mealy mouth.
Another ephiphany between the show and real life came to me the other day as I was watching my discs, where a very wealthy industrialist character was explaining the conspiracy he spearheaded. He had a really stunning monologue about the rise of various dictatorial regimes, and gave names for various movements and their inception dates. Movement names mentioned:
Jihad Party (I'll have to look up the date)
Russian Party (2013)
IN THAT ORDER.
It just wigged me out. The dates and the order together with this election and the Russians feeling froggy in contemporary times just seems too synchronous.
(Yes, I know it's a TV show, but life does imitate art at times.)
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
I'll add them to my list of things to do.
Utopianwar
A Loon With A Capgun
Touché to you sir! I always use fiction to explain where I come from because a lot of what I like (like B5) does imitate life. For me lately I have been reading some of my civil war comics (not the original civil war the one between superheroes) and I actually had tears running down my cheeks. Though its all supped up with the superhero theme and it was mostly only an issue with the heroes, it was something I could relate. Iron Man, a hero becoming the knight and shining armor for the war against freedom. The superhuman registration act was something that went straight into the big brother situation. Captain America knew it was wrong and he fought hard to oppose it. His own country turned on him. The man who was the knight of this country became a fugitive of the law. There were a lot of parallels in there about our past and the past of other hard times in history. Iron Man was the knight of the new America, and Capt was the Knight of the old school one. And the two could not co-exist. Obama is the face of the new America. We the people who cares what happens to this country are the old schoolers; that is why we have a hard time co-existing. This is the age of consumption, not the age of revolution.
If that's the case, my same sentiments would ring true for them. Wait until SOMETHING happens before complaining about it. Complaining and dreaming up the worst-case possibilities doesn't really do a lot of good.
The very strong argument could be made that Obama got elected in large part because of Bush and his policies.
That's ridiculous. Because someone is educated and literate, they're elitist? I think the point was - he's not some welfare scoundrel...
Agreed. And not only crying about losing, but dreaming up scenarios based on fear of the unknown.
Excellent. I'm the same way (except not registered to any party.) Vote for the merits of the PERSON, not for the party.
Bush's policies have made it so I have 4 friends and 2 family members fighting overseas. That affects the here and now. Then again, I voted against Bush...but at least I didn't think he was evil incarnate and dream up scenarios that would have me in some freezing cold government camp after having everything I own confiscated, eating gruel while having my ribs poked with guns held by some internal army fellas. He just got more votes.
I think you may not be wrong about his current ideas, his lack of experience combined with "had-to-say-it-to-get-elected" words will be different from what he actually does. Just my opinion here, but I figure that, at minimum, for the first year, he'll be somewhat overwhelmed and not be able to do much of anything. I'm not saying that's good for America, just don't think he's going to be able to get much done as he's learning pretty much everything on the job.
Quicksilver
Infidel
Conservatism wasnt running.
Liberty lost. Change? Like the loss of my rights? Not something I am going to get over.
Good point - yes, they "volunteered" if you want to call it that. (I don't, since it's still for-pay. They chose to sign a contract to take that job in exchange for money, thus it's not volunteer work. But that's beside the point.)
But here we have another contradiction of the "the world must now end." Other anti-Obama folks say that Obama will never start a war - he'll just "talk it out" with the enemy. So we'll never need a draft, right?
On the other hand, given either Dems or Repubs, if the military needed a large number of people for an "emergency", either one of them would get the draft going. They're pretty much the same people, and it's not THEM or THEIR kids that are going off to war, so the consequences of their decisions may be a lost election - not a lost life.
Thomas Paine
Has No Life - Lives on TB
And to Thomas Paine-in-the-ass...
I am not a "libtard," and fiercely resent the term.
I voted for B.O., and not because I am trying to salve my "white guilt." I voted for him because I am educated and literate, and can recognize that the world changes (anti-conservatism), and I welcome change when it is necessary.
After the last 8 years, change is necessary. Why don't you try supporting this new president the way you can't-think-outside-the-box conservatives told us to do with GWB?
So fold that 5 ways and shove it.
Dennis,
I wasn't around here when King George was elected/installed, but I do remember the general popualce of like minded folks was that he would be a disaster. We were proven correct.
Why don't we try to give the new guy a chance?
missed this little gem earlier . Look you rump ranging, turd burglaring sodomite I never told you to supprt GWB I did say that some of thing you and others supported were wrong, unpatriotic and just plain evil. You voted for him because you are queer libtard.
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fruit loop
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Thomas Paine, your post is one of the sickest, evil things I've ever seen in my life.
Citybear - I am so sorry you had to see that.
Citybear - I am so sorry you had to see that.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
Ironic, it has been the family members who voted for O (6 so far that I know of) who have done that to me...because I didn't vote for O.
Conrad Nimikos
Who is Henry Bowman
Fruit Loop : "Anger, disappointment, and bitterness are to be expected. What disturbs me is the way some people are so angry that they are ending friendships and banishing family members. Over an election???
I'm certain people have weathered worse disagreements in their personal and community relationships, so why cut off people you care about over a VOTE???
Dislike and hatred for the candidate are understandable - I can most certainly relate to that, as an anti-Bush voter - but for his supporters? I'll hate a candidate, and argue why I think their position is wrong, and I'll probably tell you that "you asked for it since you voted for it" but I'm NOT going to say "You voted for X so I hate your guts and you are my lifelong enemy for it." That makes no sense to me."
This is the first time i have seen a poster copy their post from a thread they started to another thread. You could have added that.
I'm certain people have weathered worse disagreements in their personal and community relationships, so why cut off people you care about over a VOTE???
Dislike and hatred for the candidate are understandable - I can most certainly relate to that, as an anti-Bush voter - but for his supporters? I'll hate a candidate, and argue why I think their position is wrong, and I'll probably tell you that "you asked for it since you voted for it" but I'm NOT going to say "You voted for X so I hate your guts and you are my lifelong enemy for it." That makes no sense to me."
This is the first time i have seen a poster copy their post from a thread they started to another thread. You could have added that.
Conrad Nimikos
Who is Henry Bowman
Actually I think TP used appropriate wording.
Yours Truly
Veteran Member
Look at it this way ... if McCain had been elected, TB2K would probably have to close up shop because there wouldn't be anything to complain about. 
kozanne
Inactive
Same here. They don't even have the freaking guts to take responsibility for their own actions. Cowards.
Thomas Paine
Has No Life - Lives on TB
What you feel concerns me little you are one of the enemy.
The Freeholder
Inactive
Personally, I'm enjoying the crap out of myself blogging all of the "I told you so!" moments. Of course, they're coming so fast and furious it's cutting into my work time. 
FL, this is about SOOOOOOO much more than a mere 'vote' and you Obama supporters just don't seem to get it. How can something be explained to you when you refuse to see the obvious; YOU ELECTED A SOCIALIST, POSSIBLY ILLEGAL ALIEN WHO HAS PROVEN TIES TO TERRORIST GROUPS. It is so painfully obvious to a critical thinking American that this clown has even less business in the white house than monkey-boy did. This man (Hussein) has already alluded to his own version of brown shirts; right out of his own mouth. He has a proven record of anti-gun decisions and his wife is a PROVEN racist - and this stuff is only the tip of the iceberg. HE will not be my president as he represents an entirely different America than I live in. HE will have to work very hard to prove himself otherwise.
Anybody that voted for this guy will get exactly what they deserve.
FWIW - I appeciated the attempted olive branch and I think your intentions were probably genuine in that other thread but damn, this is so much bigger than people realize.
Ah yes, the process where 2 wolves and 1 sheep decide "whats for dinner".
Which one are you?
MorningSunn
Rhea the Rogue
Hmmm ...
Gore won the popular vote by a much wider margin? Really?
Gore won the popular vote at 48.38%
Bush by 47.87%
Margin difference - 0.51%
The numbers for the 2008 popular vote is ...
Obama won 52.52% of the vote
McCain won 46.18%
Margin difference - 6.35%
So no, Gore did not win the popular vote at a much wider margin ... Not even close!
meezy
I think I can...
Good grief, I so agree with this. That is the vibe I get from a lot of people - "my team won, yours lost," as though it were a sports team. I honestly think a lot of people supported Obama because they perceived him to be on the "winning team."
ichoric said:
I really enjoyed this - "Kenyanesian." My apologies if this has already been used - I think it should become a meme if it hasn't already - I'm pretty good at not noticing the obvious and suddenly saying "hey, did you notice that?"
Though I have to say, Keynes had a much better grip on how to fix things than Mr. O'Kenya.Well now! I never! Harumph!
You forgot to call me a pillow biting fart catcher too. That would have REALLY driven your point home.
What genius in your response! Calling a fag a fag. WOW! Try to come up with something everyone doesn't already know in the future.
Who the hell are you to tell me, or anyone else for that matter, what is wrong, unpatriotic, or evil? Those are YOUR opinions, and opinions are like assholes...
Pay attention folks... TP's response is the result of illiteracy and lack of education. Probably inbreeding too.
And TP...if you keep an open mind, you just may benefit in some small way from BO's new education policies. I'd suggest you take advantage of them.