CHAT SF nuclear war novels

dioptase

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I'm currently laid up (as in, forced to loaf with my leg elevated) due to a leg infection. (I'll take any prayers for healing, thank you!)

Since I'm sacked out on the recliner, I've been reading Kindle on my cell phone. I finished re-reading Jason Fung's THE OBESITY CODE (I had forgotten a lot of that, and I have strong need to lose weight asap at the moment) and am now looking to be entertained.

For some odd reason (which in itself is mildly worrying), I have an absolutely compelling drive at the moment to read nuclear-war fiction. I've read ALAS BABYLON too recently to want to re-read it. I just finished another Pat Frank novel, FORBIDDEN AREA, but that only threatened nuclear war (it did not deliver).

(Yes, ghoulish of me, I know. I still have the drive, though.)

Does anyone have any suggestions for a good read in this vein? NOT *shudder* ON THE BEACH. I want to be entertained, not utterly depressed (I have enough to be depressed about as it is).

Thanks in advance.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
you may also want to try War Day by Whitley Streiber Amazon.com: Warday eBook : Strieber, Whitley, Kunetka, James: Kindle Store

and Swan Song by Robert McCammon. https://www.amazon.com/Swan-Song-Ro...ext&sprefix=swan+song,digital-text,161&sr=1-1

these are older titles but still on my shelf - both were excellent reads War day in particular. don't over look Canticile for Leibowitz - an outstanding read

ETA links are for kindle books Swan Song appears to be "free"

go sick 'em diop and do N-joy!
 
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Kathy in FL

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One of the Top 10 lists online:

Alas, Babylon - Pat Frank​

Pat Frank's classic post-apocalyptic novel was one of the first "nuclear age" books to talk about the terrible effects of nuclear war. It is still one of the most important stories in the genre today.

As the Soviet Union goes to war with the United States, people in the small town of Fort Repose watch. The story's main character starts to worry about his brother's safety when he sees nearby military bases disappear in a flash. Alas Babylon is one of the best-known books about nuclear war, and for good reason. It follows a small group of people as they try to make sense of life after Armageddon.

This Is the Way the World Ends - James Morrow​

Bold words at this time: Many books have been written about nuclear war, but "This is the Way the World Ends" is my favorite. JamesMorrow is able to make a book that's both a heartbreaking story about a father's love for his daughter and a powerful look at the absurdities of nuclear war. This is the Way the World Ends is a stark reminder that we all play a role in protecting the world for future generations; and when the world ends in nuclear fire, we're all to blame.

A Canticle for Leibowitz - Walter M Miller​

The idea that religion can find new strength in the power vacuum left by nuclear war has been used a lot in the post-apocalyptic genre. Walter Miller's classic novel, A Canticle for Leibowitz, is the best place to see this idea used.

The story is about how the Catholic church grew after an event called The Flame Deluge.

Because of their naivety and desire to progress, the people who live on Earth now could be condemned to repeat the mistakes of their predecessors.

A Gift Upon the Shore - MK Wren​

Nuclear Armageddon is etched into the minds of the characters in MK Wren's post-apocalyptic classic. They are determined to keep the few scraps of knowledge they have and set out to save the Western world's great books.

They get into a fight with a group of religious fundamentalists who want to get rid of the information that led to the Earth's downfall.

People who are religious "Arkites" agree to take in the few people who are left after a plague wipes out their entire population. In the process, they start the wheels of an unlikely friendship moving forward.

Swan Song - Robert McCammon​

There are a lot of stories in these books about nuclear war that make you sad and think about what will happen when you die. But Swan Song takes an entirely different tone.

He is one of the best at writing scary stories. Swan Song is an epic story about survival after a war, and it comes from Robert McCammon, one of the best writers of horror. We follow an unlikely friendship as they make their way across the ruins of post-apocalyptic America. In the process, they meet the Man of Many Faces, and evil itself, as well as the Man of Many Faces himself. Swan Song is McCammon's best work. The comparisons to Stephen King's epic The Stand are right on the money.

On the Beach - Nevil Shute​

On the Beach is about a group of people who live in Melbourne, Australia, which was one of the few places that didn't get hit by last year's nuclear war.

Not only that, but the protagonists of Nevil Shute's classic post-apocalyptic novel have to watch their fate roll slowly and inexorably toward them as a cloud of fallout moves closer to the continent. This is what happens to them. The story is about how each person deals with their own death, and it gives a deep look into the human side of nuclear war.

Farnham's Freehold - Robert A Heinlein​

It's no surprise that Robert Heinlein, the author of Starship Troopers, is behind Farnham's Freehold, which won my award for the weirdest book about nuclear war.

He and his family are thrown back 2,000 years in time when a nuclear bomb hits Hugh Farnham's bunker right on top of his head. As the family fights to stay alive in their new environment, they realize that they aren't alone. The planet's current residents have less than pleasant plans for the family. He and his family must figure out how to stay alive in this (post-)post-apocalyptic world and see if they can ever get back home.

The Long Tomorrow - Leigh Brackett​

This book is more mature than some of the classic books about nuclear war: technology is vilified; new religious groups form to fill the void left by the collapse of government, science, and society; and the protagonists find themselves drawn to forbidden technology.

When two young boys leave their religious community, they set out to find a fabled place in the desert where people work to rebuild technology.

Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut​

As the classic Slaughterhouse-five shows, Vonnegut is a master at using humour and absurd satire to write about some of the most difficult, dark things in the world.

It continues this tradition, and introduces the world to Dr. Felix Hoenikker, who helped make the atomic bomb and came up with the chemical compound called ice-nine.

The story is about a hilarious and poignant chase to find Hoenikker and his exploits, in an attempt to save the world from being frozen solid by his legacy. In the process, it makes a powerful point about the madness of atomic war.

The Wild Shore - Kim Stanley Robinson​

The Wild Shore is the first book in Kim Stanley Robinson's "Three Californias" trilogy. It is about people living in a small town on the Pacific Coast after a nuclear war.

Food shortages and harsh sanctions imposed by the war's winners are enough of a problem, but the protagonist of the story has visions of a bigger goal: one that will help rebuild the country after the war. The Wild Shore is one of the most beautiful and thought-provoking books about nuclear war ever written. It is part frontier story and part post-apocalyptic epic.
 

Grumphau

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you may also want to try War Day by Whitley Streiber and Swan Song by Robert McCammon. these are older titles but still on my shelf - both were excellent reads War day in particular. don't over look Canticile for Leibowitz - an outstanding read
Swan Song is interesting... definitely fantastical. It seems to me that the author read Postman and wanted to make a horror-fantasy version. One of the characters even shares a name with one in Postman (Macklin).
 

Kathy in FL

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you may also want to try War Day by Whitley Streiber and Swan Song by Robert McCammon. these are older titles but still on my shelf - both were excellent reads War day in particular. don't over look Canticile for Leibowitz - an outstanding read

War Day is a war-and-peace type piece of fiction where the author uses three or four words where one would have sufficed. That said, I "enjoyed" the book the first time around, never could read it a second time. Now that's just me. There are a lot of good reviews of the book out there.
 

Kathy in FL

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One I keep meaning to read is The Forty Minute War by Janet and Chris Morris. Never can find the time to devote to it. One of the reviews for the book follows:

“After Washington, D.C. is vaporized by a nuclear surface blast, Marc Beck, wonder boy of the American foreign service, prevails on Ashmead, cover action chief, to help him fly two batches of anticancer serum from Israel to the Houston White House. From the moment the establish their gritty relationship, life is filled with treachery and terror for Beck (who) must deal with one cliffhanger after another during the desperate days that follow. This novel shocks us with a sudden, satisfying ending.” – PUBLISHERS WEEKLY
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
"One Second After" is the first of a trilogy.

Actually I see now he's gone on and done a "sequel" (I have not read) - so perhaps four books now?


Dobbin
 

Kathy in FL

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Liam's Promise is a YA level book.

Plot: Separated from their parents, eight kids must survive a nuclear blast that destroys their city. They couldn't be more different: Liam Harper and his sister Lilly, who has Down's Syndrome, are outsiders who are new to public schools. Mysterious Amaranth Jones doesn't have parents; she lives in a group home. Nate and Nester Bartlett are half-brothers who don't like each other much. Rod Wasserman is a prankster and bully who has made Liam's life as a new kid miserable. His girlfriend, Amy Yamamoto, is popular cheerleader who doesn't seem to care for much beyond her hair and her makeup. And Elise Gomez is only seven and barely speaks English. Tumbling into a bomb shelter called "The Hole" beneath Liam's house, the group face injury, deprivation and their dislike for each other. When the food runs out, they have no choice but to emerge, facing the devastation of the world above. In order to escape the fallout, they must put aside their differences and walk 200 miles to a mountain cabin, where they hope they will be safe. This is the first book of The Doomsday Kids series.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
War Day is a war-and-peace type piece of fiction where the author uses three or four words where one would have sufficed. That said, I "enjoyed" the book the first time around, never could read it a second time. Now that's just me. There are a lot of good reviews of the book out there.
true - what I particularly like about it is how the characters left NYC immediately following what came to be called "war day" and traveled cross country on foot and IIRC horse back to see how the other survivors were faring. I found that particularly interesting and . . .shall we say "educational"

"Five years after a "limited" nuclear war, two survivors journey across America. They — and you — will discover what is left of our way of life: the depth of the devastation — and the hopes of a new society desperately struggling to be born."

its another I've re-read on several occasions
 

Doc

Senior Member
You might enjoy my two short novels - Killshot and Killshot Two - After The Fall.

Killshot synopsis:
After a massive solar flare hits earth and destroys the power grid, electrical outages spread rapidly across the United States. In an effort to survive the chaos around them and save his family, Patrick Walker decides to bug out from their Mississippi Gulf Coast home to his grandfather's cabin in northern Arkansas.

The quest for survival begins in their own neighborhood when their friends turn against them and try to take their supplies. After a gun battle, their journey to Arkansas is filled with life-threatening hazards as the situation rapidly goes from bad to worse. Without electricity, there is no access to any of life's basic necessities. As each day passes, their plight becomes one in which it is every man for himself, kill or be killed.

Killshot Two synpsis: In part two, the chaos continues as Patrick Walker and his family try to survive the aftermath of a solar flare that has knocked out the entire United States power grid. After nearly getting killed in a gunfight with scavengers from a nearby town, Patrick and his wife Mary realize that they are too close to the city and decide to leave Doctor Bob's farm and return to his grandfather's cabin. However, when Patrick's family is put in peril, his life is about to change again. As each day passes, his plight becomes one of survival that comes down to killing or being killed. But will this crisis be the one obstacle he can't overcome?

These books aren't about nuclear war, but they do deal with the chaos that occurs when the country is without electricity. I think you would enjoy them and they are a fast read.
Check them out here. Amazon.com: Dr. Ira May: Books
 

Kathy in FL

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Some other books:

Arc Light by Eric Harry
Triumph by Philip Wylie
The Long Summer by Rod Rayborne
The Last by Hannah Jameson
Brother in the Land (UK perspective, YA)
Emergence by David R. Palmer
The Last Ship by William Brinkley (was made into a tv series I think)
Children of the Dust by Louise Lawrence

There are a bunch out there.
 

Kathy in FL

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true - what I particularly like about it is how the characters left NYC immediately following what came to be called "war day" and traveled cross country on foot and IIRC horse back to see how the other survivors were faring. I found that particularly interesting and . . .shall we say "educational"

"Five years after a "limited" nuclear war, two survivors journey across America. They — and you — will discover what is left of our way of life: the depth of the devastation — and the hopes of a new society desperately struggling to be born."

its another I've re-read on several occasions

Main character was a reporter "triaged" due to exposure if I remember.
 

Kathy in FL

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If you have Kindle I'll try and post some freedbies:







 

library lady

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I always assumed The Road by Cormac McCarthy was about the aftermath of nuclear war. It is scary as heck, with an ambiguous ending. Wikipedia description:

The Road is a 2006 post-apocalyptic novel by American writer Cormac McCarthy. The book details the grueling journey of a father and his young son over a period of several months across a landscape blasted by an unspecified cataclysm that has destroyed industrial civilization and almost all life.
 

ibetiny

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First Angel by Ed Mann.
Member of nat guard survives blast then travels to family homestead, takes command of local guard units to try to rebuild. This is probably what you are looking for.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Life after a combination of things: War, famine, collapse of currency, break down of centralized government and federal and state levels, lack of fossil fuels, lack of dependable communications, violence making travel dangerous. How a small town manages to survive. The consequences of a new group immigrating to the area.

This book is part of a trilogy that includes: "The Witch of Hebron" and "A History of the Future" .

World Made by Hand (The World Made by Hand Novels Book 1) Kindle Edition​

by James Howard Kunstler

In this “richly imagined” dystopian vision, mankind must find a way to survive as modern civilization slowly comes apart (O, The Oprah Magazine).

When Earth ran dry of oil, the age of the automobile came to an end; electricity flickered out. With deprivation came desperation—and desperation drove humanity backward to a state of existence few could have imagined.

In the tiny hamlet of Union Grove, New York, every day is a struggle. For Mayor Robert Earle, it is a battle to keep the citizens united. As the bonds of civilization are torn apart by war, famine, and violence, there are some who aim to carve out a new society: one in which might makes right—a world of tyranny, subjugation, and death. A world Earle must fight against . . .

In his shocking nonfiction work, The Long Emergency, social commentator James Howard Kunstler explored the reality of what would happen if the engines stopped running. In World Made by Hand, he offers a stark glimpse of that future in a work of speculative fiction that stands as “an impassioned and invigorating tale whose ultimate message is one of hope, not despair” (San Francisco Chronicle).
World Made by Hand: A Novel: Kunstler, James Howard: 9780802144010: Amazon.com: Books
 

Jeep

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This one is old and maybe out of print, but "Daybreak 2250 AD" is a novel about life around 2 to 300 years after a nuclear war. Different tribes that have no technology except primitive lifestyle and they go against mutant "Beast Things". I thought it was a pretty good book but haven't read it in many years.
 

Kathy in FL

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Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
This one is old and maybe out of print, but "Daybreak 2250 AD" is a novel about life around 2 to 300 years after a nuclear war. Different tribes that have no technology except primitive lifestyle and they go against mutant "Beast Things". I thought it was a pretty good book but haven't read it in many years.
yet another I have read MANY times over and it's STILL on the shelf. it was first published under the title "Starmans Son". the author is Andre Norton. to tell you how OLD that book is and how long its been in my library my original copy was purchased as a THIRD GRADE STUDENT through Scholastic Book Services. the price on the well worn cover is a barely discernible thirty five cents. it was one of my favorite books as a child and I'll bet I've read it a minimum of 15-18 times.

my original copy of Pat Frank's Alas Babylon is almost as old - and also still on the shelf. originally purchased through Scholastic Book Services I was in 4'th grade. the price was once again thirty five cents

good books are like old friends - I never get tired of seeing them

ETA: I was wrong . . . pulled Daybreak off the shelf and looked at it . . . inside front cover has my name, Sister Agatha and "5B" written in it . . . I was in 5'th grade
 
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Jeep

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yet another I have read MANY times over and it's STILL on the shelf. it was first published under the title "Starmans Son". the author is Andre Norton. to tell you how OLD that book is and how long its been in my library my original copy was purchased as a THIRD GRADE STUDENT through Scholastic Book Services. the price on the well worn cover is a barely discernible thirty five cents. it was one of my favorite books as a child and I'll bet I've read it a minimum of 15-18 times.

my original copy of Pat Frank's Alas Babylon is almost as old - and also still on the shelf. originally purchased through Scholastic Book Services I was in 4'th grade. the price was once again thirty five cents

good books are like old friends - I never get tired of seeing them
I bought mine when I was in the 7th grade (1962) thru Scholastic Book Services, and I think I paid .35 for mine too. That is when I bought "Alas, Babylon" too and a few more Sci-fi books. I used my grass cutting money to buy my books. I also have my original copy of "Daybreak 2250", but I found a used copy of that, and a sequel Norton wrote to Daybreak, and this is around 50 years later all in one book. I need to get that out and re-read both. Back then Fors, (the hero of the book) was my hero. LOL
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
I bought mine when I was in the 7th grade (1962) thru Scholastic Book Services, and I think I paid .35 for mine too. That is when I bought "Alas, Babylon" too and a few more Sci-fi books. I used my grass cutting money to buy my books. I also have my original copy of "Daybreak 2250", but I found a used copy of that, and a sequel Norton wrote to Daybreak, and this is around 50 years later all in one book. I need to get that out and re-read both. Back then Fors, (the hero of the book) was my hero. LOL !!!!!

Randy - too much similarity here - I bought Alas Babylon with grass cutting money but my mother bought 2250 AD for me. and Fors was my hero too - and I really wanted a kat like Laura LOLOL!!!!

to the OP - sorry for the thread drift and the trip Randy and I took in our way back machines :whistle:
 

CGTech

Has No Life - Lives on TB
One I remember from my youth.... ;)


One of the comments on the book;

Despite being written in the early 70's and set in 1985, this novel felt like a contemporary work of 2012. This makes it horrifying because the plot is so plausible today. An energy crisis rendering the US a third world state is the opening gambit. Swiftly followed by a nuclear war which is an increasing possibility with rising middle eastern armament. That prospect is terrifying enough. But what makes this book so utterly engaging is the fact we are dealing with these massive events through the very credible eyes of a UK pilot midway through his Atlantic flight. This perspective sets the book apart from other apocolyptic fiction because the paasengers' survival is doomed yet they (and we) are aural witnesses to the on- ground effects via commentary from a few air controllers in European and US cities which fall within an hour or so. Where can they go? And just when all seems lost, faint contact with islands in the Azores brings hope. Yet that slim chance of survival is also closing as we know the radiation will soon follow. It is such an adrenaline read with an ending that slaps you in the face and yet you smile and think, it's honest, fair and not entirely undeserved. Most importantly it reminds us that nuclear war is possible so we should do all we can humanely do to prevent anything near these events from become reality.
 

dioptase

Veteran Member
Thank you, all, for a cornucopia of doom riches. I think, lol. (I noticed that nobody commented on my urge to read such, which makes me wonder if I am not alone.)

Some of these I have read already. I agree that 'Triumph' is riveting if socially dated. 'One Second After' was too sad for me, so I'm not revisiting or sequeling that. 'Down to a Sunless Sea' is about 90% of a good novel (the ending was ridiculously optimistic). I enjoyed 'Farnham's Freehold' when I read it decades ago, but maybe not now.

I've read others on the list, but those are the ones that I recall most clearly.

I'll check out some of the other titles. There should be more than enough stuff to get me through the week. Thanks again!
 

1911user

Veteran Member
There were many fictional series in the 70's and 80's where nuclear and post-nuclear were a big part of the story setting. The Survivalist series by Jerry Ahern was a famous one. Men's Adventure books was the official category.

This link is just a description of the series, not the books where they can be read.

If you want to read them, many are at the link below. It takes an archive.org login to borrow or read them at the website; they do give a limited preview without a login. An archive.org login is very easy and requires minimal info. You make up a username, password, and give an email which is verified and that's it. They don't spam your email.
These books are a quick read if you want some pulp adventure after the bombs fall and the Russians have invaded the US.

This is the first one: second one: third one: fourth one:The doomsayer : Ahern, Jerry : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
 
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SurvivalRing

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Kudoes for Angels White, Jerry Ahern, and also the “Out of the Ashes” series by William Johnston as well as his book Breakdown”.

No one has mentioned one of my favorites, such as Dean Ing, author of “Pulling Through” and several others. Also Jerry Pournelle’s “There will be war”, series, which I’ve got the whole set of.

So many more titles and authors that would fit on this list.
 
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lojoma

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Oh my gosh, totally forgot about Gift Upon the Shore. I second that heartily. Also not nuclear but if looking for "entertaining" extremely well written apocalyptic lit cant miss
The Passage, Justin Cronin
 

teedee

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Thanks for all the links. I have downloaded a bunch and will read them at my leisure. I especially want to thank Kathy, Thank you dear lady!
 

willowlady

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Oh my gosh, totally forgot about Gift Upon the Shore. I second that heartily. Also not nuclear but if looking for "entertaining" extremely well written apocalyptic lit cant miss
The Passage, Justin Cronin
It it too nuclear, at least the beginning of it. It absolutely highlights the likely devastation and societal shifts post nukes.
 

lojoma

Veteran Member
Yes Gift Upon the Shore for sure. I meant "The Passage" is not nuclear apocalypse but viral...
 
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