VIDEO "San Andreas," imagines what would happen if the biggest earthquake in history hits CA....

MC2006

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"San Andreas," which imagines what would happen if the biggest earthquake in recorded history hit the West Coast. "I cannot emphasize this enough: You need to get out, and I mean now," says Paul Giamatti in the film's first trailer. "Because even though this is happening in California, you will feel it on the East Coast.



WATCH TRAILER HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yftHosO0eUo
 

tanstaafl

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As far as I know, the largest earthquake ever recorded was the 9.5 event in Chile in May 1960. Also as far as I know, the San Andreas is the wrong type of fault to produce an earthquake that large. And finally, NO ONE is going to be running or even on their feet during something that big.

But it does make for good doomer porn ...
 

MountainBiker

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Looks like a good movie. Natural disasters can happen anywhere but some are more assured to occur at some point than others. The sheeple just assume that govt. will always be there to come to their rescue but preppers know that come a general societal breakdown for whatever reason there won't be any help coming from anywhere. I have thus always been a bit perplexed when they choose to live in places subject to predictable natural disasters. It isn't like the threat will disappear.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
There could be a disaster on the scale of the 1906 quake, presume this is likely unless some earth shattering event has happened in the last 100 years to change the geology of CA, it will happen sooner or later or is there some scientific evidence to say it won't?

The last quake destroyed 80% of SF but it was rebuilt in double quick time.
 

JF&P

Deceased
As far as I know, the largest earthquake ever recorded was the 9.5 event in Chile in May 1960. Also as far as I know, the San Andreas is the wrong type of fault to produce an earthquake that large. And finally, NO ONE is going to be running or even on their feet during something that big.

But it does make for good doomer porn ...

Yup!!!

But I must admit, I really like Dwayne Johnson!!!
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
I can't get any sound out of it........? Is everyone else hearing it?

Never mind, dh had the sound muted......:smkd:
 

Mr. Peabody

Veteran Member
So southern CA slides off into the Pacific and so goes Hollywood. If it wasn't for MCRD and Camp P. I would think of this as some sort of sweet ass urban renewal event.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I am not feeling well enough to go footnote hunting but I am pretty sure I have seen this before anyway footnote should be there - from Wikipedia

snip...The San Francisco earthquake of 1906 struck San Francisco and the coast of Northern California at 5:12 a.m. on Wednesday, April 18, 1906.[3] Devastating fires broke out in the city that lasted for several days. As a result of the quake and fires, about 3,000 people died and over 80% of San Francisco was destroyed.[4]

The earthquake and resulting fire are remembered as one of the worst natural disasters in the history of the United States[5] alongside the Galveston Hurricane of 1900 and Hurricane Katrina in 2005.[6] The death toll from the earthquake and resulting fire remains the greatest loss of life from a natural disaster in California's history.
snip...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
That said, I have heard historians claim that more like 10 to 12 thousand died; about 7 thousand or so in China town; in those days not everyone was recorded someplace easy to access and there was a huge push on the part of businesses and the city to "put it behind us" and get back to work. Things were supposedly "played down" over fears that insurance and investors (even in 1906) would shun the area if the true scale of the death and destruction was realized; but I suspect mainly it was just that some of the worst burned out and leveled areas were places where those least likely to have outside records lived (and often whole families died).

When I was about 11, I heard an elderly lady tell what it was like to live though when she was 12; I remember they had to live in the park for weeks and families spend months trying to find each other and some never did. That was how you were certain that someone had probably died.
 

NoDandy

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Moses said to the children of Israel "pick up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the promised land". Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel, this is the promised land". Now Obama has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price of camels, and mortgaged the promised land!...

LOL, I love that!! I am going to pass that on to many of my friends.
 

Tundra Gypsy

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Some well known gal in So. California has predicted a very large earthquake for CA some time after the first of the year.....hold on....rock n roll time. Nice way to start the new year! Remember, food, water, shelter.....
 

Elza

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There could be a disaster on the scale of the 1906 quake, presume this is likely unless some earth shattering event has happened in the last 100 years to change the geology of CA, it will happen sooner or later or is there some scientific evidence to say it won't?

The last quake destroyed 80% of SF but it was rebuilt in double quick time.

The quake did very little damage to S.F. It was the fire that destroyed it. And yes 80% is what I’ve read. Check out the pictures following the fire. It is truly unbelievable. The gallantry of the S.F. firefighters is legendary. They had the fire stopped at Van Ness Avenue which would have saved at least half of the damage to the city. But the Army came in, took control, and started dynamiting building to “control the fire”. They managed to blow the fire across Van Ness and caused the entire north west corner of the city to burn.

Farther north was where the quake did the most damage. Destruction to Petaluma was nearly 100%. Several other cities in the area were devastated as well.
 

Siskiyoumom

Veteran Member
I personally think the New Madrid fault system and the Cascadian Subduction Zone are more of a risk than the San Andreas.

The trailer for the film is definitely doomer porn for sure, especially seeing skyscrapers crumble and Hoover Dam (?) collapsing.
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Me too, Sub, but I might not be able to watch this one. Son and daughter-in-law live out there and I worry about them all the time. Watching this - I probably wouldn't sleep for a week :)

Looks good to me... I enjoy a good disaster movie.
 
The quake won't be the primary maimer and killer. It will be the people in the aftermath.

If it takes out the Grid and Water Supply for months, I doubt if there will be enough troops available immediately to restore order, (unless the 82nd Airborne drops in).

And in the periphery of the most affected area there will be a mass exodus. (You could apply that to a New Madrid event as well).
 

Abert

Veteran Member
Just another method of creating a huge public works project

The Libs keep trying to find ways to get the taxes for huge public work projects.
This is just the latest and if they get away with it, expect the same for every town in the Nation, adding fires, floods, .......

Don't want damage or death, have people move out - they know it is going to happen - they can stay or not - not my problem to pay to cover their costs.
 
There was a pretty scary book in the 70's - "Last Days of the Late Great State of California" which dealt
with the same scenario and how it would affect the entire USA in short order.
 

Sleeping Cobra

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The quake did very little damage to S.F. It was the fire that destroyed it. And yes 80% is what I’ve read. Check out the pictures following the fire. It is truly unbelievable. The gallantry of the S.F. firefighters is legendary. They had the fire stopped at Van Ness Avenue which would have saved at least half of the damage to the city. But the Army came in, took control, and started dynamiting building to “control the fire”. They managed to blow the fire across Van Ness and caused the entire north west corner of the city to burn.

Farther north was where the quake did the most damage. Destruction to Petaluma was nearly 100%. Several other cities in the area were devastated as well.

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Richard

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Got a reference for that tidbit? I don't think that stat is even close.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_San_Francisco_earthquake

The San Francisco earthquake of 1906 struck San Francisco and the coast of Northern California at 5:12 a.m. on Wednesday, April 18, 1906. Devastating fires broke out in the city that lasted for several days. As a result of the quake and fires, about 3,000 people died and over 80% of San Francisco was destroyed.

http://www.sfmuseum.net/hist10/06timeline.html

Timeline of the San Francisco Earthquake
April 18 - 23, 1906
This timeline is excerpted from Gladys Hansen’s “Chronology of the Great Earthquake, and the 1906-1907 Graft Investigations.”
April 18, 1906
San Francisco was wrecked by a Great Earthquake at 5:13 a.m., and then destroyed by the seventh Great Fire that burned for four days. Hundreds, perhaps thousands of trapped persons died when South-of-Market tenements collapsed as the ground liquefied beneath them. Most of those buildings immediately caught fire, and trapped victims could not be rescued. Reevaluation of the 1906 data, during the 1980s, placed the total earthquake death toll at more than 3,000 from all causes. Damage was estimated at $500,000,000 in 1906 dollars.
Fire Chief Engineer Dennis T. Sullivan was mortally wounded when the dome of the California Theatre and hotel crashed through the fire station in which he was living at 410-412 Bush St. Acting Chief Engineer John Dougherty commanded fire operations.

The earthquake shock was felt from Coos Bay, Oregon, to Los Angeles, and as far east as central Nevada, an area of about 375,000 square miles, approximately half of which was in the Pacific Ocean. The region of destructive effect extended from the southern part of Fresno County to Eureka, about 400 miles, and for a distance of 25 to 30 miles on either side of the fault zone. The distribution of intensity within the region of destruction was uneven. Of course, all structures standing on or crossing the rift were destroyed or badly damaged. Many trees standing near the fault were either uprooted or broken off. Perhaps the most marked destruction of trees was near Loma Prieta in Santa Cruz County, where, according to Dr. John C. Branner of Stanford University, “The forest looked as though a swath had been cut through it two hundred feet in width.” In little less than a mile he counted 345 earthquake cracks running in all directions.

U.S. Post Office at Seventh and Mission sts. was dreadfully damaged by the earthquake. Assistant to the Postmaster Burke said, “walls had been thrown into the middle of various rooms, destroying furniture and covering everything with dust. In the main corridors the marble was split and cracked, while the mosaics were shattered and had come rattling down upon the floor. Chandeliers were rent and twisted by falling arches and ceilings.”

Fireman James O’Neill, drawing water for the horses in Fire Station No. 4 on Howard Street opposite Hawthorne, was killed when a wall of the American Hotel collapsed onto the fire station.

Police officer Max Fenner was mortally wounded when a wall collapsed upon him at 138 Mason Street.

All telephone and telegraph communications stopped within the city, although some commercial telegraph circuits to New York and to India, via the Pacific cable at the Ocean Beach, remained in temporary operation.

A messenger arrived at Ft. Mason at 6:30 a.m. with orders from Gen. Funston to send all available troops to report to the mayor at the Hall of Justice.

First army troops from Fort Mason reported to Mayor Schmitz at the Hall of Justice around 7 a.m.

At 8 a.m., the 10th, 29th, 38th, 66th, 67th, 70th and 105th Companies of Coast Artillery, Troops I and K of the 14th Cavalry and the First, Ninth and 24th Batteries of Field Artillery arrived Downtown to take up patrol.

Seventy-five soldiers from Companies C and D, Engineer Corps were assigned to the Financial District at 8 a.m., and another 75 along Market from Third Street to the City Hall at Grove and Larkin streets.

A major aftershock struck at 8:14 a.m., and caused the collapse of many damaged buildings. There was much panic.

Second day session of the Grand Chapter of the Royal Arch Masons of the state of California fifty-second annual convocation. The group met after the earthquake but evacuated before the temple at Montgomery and Post streets was destroyed by fire. The Masons listed the date as April 18, A.I. 2436, A.D.

At 10 a.m. Headquarters and First Battalion 22nd Infantry, were brought from Ft. McDowell by boat, and were held for a time in reserve at O’Farrell St. They were later utilized as patrols and to assist the fire department.

At about 10:05 a.m. the DeForest Wireless Telegraph Station at San Diego radioed press reports of the disaster at San Francisco to the “U.S.S. Chicago.” Admiral Caspar Goodrich immediately ordered fires started under all boilers, and after a confirmation message from the Mayor of San Diego, the “Chicago” steamed at full speed for San Francisco. It was the first time wireless telegraphy was used in a major natural disaster.

At 10:30 a.m., the “U.S.S. Preble” from Mare Island, under the command of Lt. Frederick Newton Freeman, landed a hospital shore party at the foot of Howard St. to help the wounded and dying who sought help at Harbor Emergency Hospital.

Another fire broke out at 395 Hayes St. on the southwest corner of Hayes and Gough. It would become known as the “Ham and Egg” fire, and would destroy part of the Western Addition, the Mechanics’ Pavilion, City Hall and then jump Market Street at Ninth.

General Funston’s staff abandoned the Dept. of California’s Headquarters in the Phelan Building, across from the Palace Hotel, at 11 a.m. They did manage to save valuable records.

Winchester Hotel caught fire at Third and Stevenson streets and collapsed at 11 a.m.

Fort Miley troops, the 25th and 64th Companies Coast Artillery, arrived at 11:30 a.m.

Two earthquake in Los Angeles just before noon, about ten minutes apart. The quaking began as crowds gathered around bulletin boards to read the latest telegraphic dispatches from San Francisco. Thousands ran in panic when the earthquakes struck.

Hearst Building at Third and Market streets caught fire at noon.

Evacuation of the injured from Mechanics’ Pavilion, Grove and Larkin, began at noon because of the spreading “Ham and Egg” fire. The wounded were taken to Golden Gate Park, Children’s Hospital and the Presidio.

Mechanics’ Pavilion took fire at 1 p.m.

St. Mary’s Hospital at First and Bryant sts. was abandoned to the fire at 1 p.m. Patients were loaded aboard the ferryboat “Modoc” and taken to Oakland.
Entire area in the Financial District, behind the Hall of Justice, was on fire by 1 p.m.

Fires so threatened the Portsmouth Square area by 1 p.m. that General Manager Hewitt of the Dept. of Electricity decided to abandon the Central Fire Alarm Station at 15 Brenham Place in Chinatown.

Restaurant atop the Call, or Claus Spreckels Building, at Third and Market streets, took fire at 2 p.m.

Postal Telegraph operators transmitted their last message to the outside world as army troops ordered them from the building at 534 Market St., opposite Second St., at 2:20 p.m. because of the approaching fire.

Latest casualty count: 750 people seriously injured people were being treated at various hospitals at 2:30 p.m.

Dynamiting of buildings around the U.S. Mint at Fifth and Mission streets began at 2:30 p.m.

U.S. Army Signal Corps established Ferry Building telegraph operations at 3 p.m.

Mayor Schmitz appointed the Committee of Fifty at 3 p.m. at the Hall of Justice. The mayor also said:

“Let it be given out that three men have already been shot down without mercy for looting. Let it also be understood that the order has been given to all soldiers and policemen to do likewise without hesitation in the cases of any and all miscreants who may seek to take advantage of the city’s awful misfortune.”
The Mayor appointed ex-Mayor James Phelan to head the Relief Committee.
Fifty or more corpses had been buried by the police in Portsmouth Square by 5 p.m because the morgue and police pistol range could hold no more bodies.

Mayor Schmitz, at 8 p.m., was still confident that a good part of downtown could be saved. Unfortunately a possible arsonist set fire to the Delmonico Restaurant in the Alcazar Theatre Building on O’Farrell near Stockton, and that blaze burned into Downtown and to Nob Hill.

War Department received a telegram from Gen. Funston at 8:40 p.m., Pacific Coast time, that asked for thousands of tents and all available rations. Funston placed the death toll at 1000.

Firefighters attempted to make a stand at 9 p.m. along Powell St. between Sutter and Pine, but it was unsuccessful in keeping the fire from sweeping up Nob Hill.

Crocker- Woolworth Bank Building at Post and Market took fire at 9 p.m.

April 19, 1906
Governor Pardee arrived in Oakland at 2 a.m. He was supposed to arrive three hours earlier, but his train was stalled because of sinking of the track in the Susuin marshes. The governor said he would declare a bank holiday today.
St. Francis Hotel at Union Square caught fire at 2:30 a.m.

Mayor Schmitz and Capt. Thomas Magner of Engine No. 3 found a cistern at the Hopkins Mansion, Mason and California streets, at 4 a.m., and attempted to keep the fire from burning the structure. They were not successful.

Secretary of War Taft at 4 a.m. ordered 200,000 rations sent to San Francisco from the Vancouver Barracks.

Secretary Taft ordered all hospital, wall and conical tents sent to San Francisco from army posts at Vancouver; Forts Douglas, Logan, Snelling, Sheridan and Russell, from San Antonio and the Presidio of Monterey.

Secretary Taft wired Gen. Funston at 4:55 a.m. that all tents in the U.S. Army were en route to San Francisco.

“Call,” “Chronicle” and “Examiner” printed a combined newspaper today on the presses of the “Oakland Herald.”

176 prisoners moved from city prison to Alcatraz.

“U.S.S. Chicago” arrived in San Francisco Bay at 6 p.m.

The Great Fire reached Van Ness Avenue during the evening. The army dynamited mansions along the street in an attempt to build a fire break. Demolition to stop the fire was ordered by Colonel Charles Morris of the Artillery Corps.

April 20, 1906
The fire burned as far as Franklin St. by 5 a.m., then attempted to circle south.
At the foot of Van Ness Avenue, 16 enlisted men and two officers from the “U.S.S. Chicago” supervised the rescue of 20,000 refugees fleeing the Great Fire. It was the largest evacuation by sea in history, and probably as large as the evacuation of Dunkirk during World War II.

Fire approached the Appraisers’ Building for a second time at 3 p.m. Lt. Freeman attempted to pump saltwater from the Bay but found that his hose connections would not fit those of the Fire Department, so the effort was abandoned.

Gen. Funston issued General Orders No. 37 which placed Lt. Col. George Torney of the Medical Department in full control of sanitation in San Francisco.

Gen. Funston wired War Department at 8:30 p.m. on status of the fire. He advised that Fort Mason has been saved, and some looters have been shot. His telegram said most casualties are in the poorer districts, South of Market St.; not many killed in better portion of the city.

April 21, 1906
Haig Patigian’s statue of President McKinley, commissioned for the city of Arcata, found in the rubble of a local foundry and saved by several artisans who carried it into the street.
The fire that swept the Mission District was stopped at 20th and Dolores sts. by three- thousand volunteers and a few firemen who fought the blaze with knapsacks, brooms and a little water from an operating hydrant at 20th and Church.

April 22, 1906
Fire Chief Engineer Dennis T. Sullivan died at the Army General Hospital at the Presidio at 1 a.m.
Father Ricard at the University of Santa Clara wrote to the “San Jose Mercury”:

The earthquake period is gone. Once the pent up forces of nature have had a vent, nothing of a serious nature need be apprehended. At the most a succession of minor shocks may be felt and that’s all. It is not unreasonable, therefore, for people to continue in dread of a new destructive temblor. People should fearlessly go to work and repair mischief done and sleep quietly at night anywhere at all, especially in wooden frame. Never mind foreboders of evil: they do not know what they are talking about. Seismonetry is in its infancy and those therefore who venture out with predictions of future earthquakes when the main shock has taken place ought to be arrested as disturbers of the peace.
Major-General Adolphus W. Greely, Commander of the army’s Pacific Division returned to San Francisco.
United Railroad crews began stringing temporary overhead trolley wires on Market St., but did not repair the cable traction system in the street.

April 23, 1906
Governor Pardee told a newspaper reporter, “The work of rebuilding San Francisco has commenced, and I expect to see the great metropolis replaced on a much grander scale than ever before.”
Imperial decree on the 30th Day of the Third Moon from Empress Dowager of China to send 100,000 taels as a personal contribution to the relief of the San Francisco sufferers. President Theodore Roosevelt declined the offer, as well as donations from other foreign governments.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
The quake did very little damage to S.F. It was the fire that destroyed it. And yes 80% is what I’ve read. Check out the pictures following the fire. It is truly unbelievable. The gallantry of the S.F. firefighters is legendary. They had the fire stopped at Van Ness Avenue which would have saved at least half of the damage to the city. But the Army came in, took control, and started dynamiting building to “control the fire”. They managed to blow the fire across Van Ness and caused the entire north west corner of the city to burn.

Farther north was where the quake did the most damage. Destruction to Petaluma was nearly 100%. Several other cities in the area were devastated as well.

Presume fires will break out in the same way with another similar earthquake and cause the same amount of damage, or has some factor changed since 1906?
 

Foothiller

Veteran Member
The quake won't be the primary maimer and killer. It will be the people in the aftermath.

If it takes out the Grid and Water Supply for months, I doubt if there will be enough troops available immediately to restore order, (unless the 82nd Airborne drops in).

And in the periphery of the most affected area there will be a mass exodus. (You could apply that to a New Madrid event as well).

Well, there's about 20 million people in SoCal. There isn't much water.

There are gas mains that cross the fault.

When it goes, it won't be the quake that kills most people. It will be the lack of water(to drink and fight fires), fires, and anarchy that do most of the work.

I used to live there in the 80's. I had an EQ go bag and a plan. Most people I knew cared nothing for such preparations.

The geologists back then kept saying "California is overdue for the 'big one'".

It still hasn't happened so maybe the non-preppers were right. They will continue to be right, until they're not.

I'm glad I don't live in that particular Peoples Republk where non-citizens and government workers have more rights than the peasants, I mean productive citizens.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
"San Andreas," imagines what would happen if the biggest earthquake in history hits CA...."

I imagine this would have a severe impact on the nation's production of fruits and nuts.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/09/u...trofitting-of-los-angeles-buildings.html?_r=0


Earthquake Plan Would Require Retrofitting Thousands of Los Angeles Buildings
By ADAM NAGOURNEYDEC. 8, 2014


If approved, the required safety measures in Los Angeles would cost billions in the private and public sectors, the mayor said. Credit Monica Almeida/The New York
LOS ANGELES — In the most sweeping campaign directed at earthquake safety ever attempted in California, Los Angeles officials proposed Monday to require the owners of thousands of small, wooden apartment buildings and big concrete offices to invest millions of dollars in strengthening them to guard against catastrophic damage in a powerful earthquake.

The mandate to retrofit buildings was part of a raft of proposals made by Mayor Eric M. Garcetti to deal with what is widely viewed as a longtime failure of Southern California to prepare for a damaging earthquake. In a report issued Monday, Mr. Garcetti also proposed that the city take steps to create a new firefighting water supply system, using ocean and waste water, to help battle as many as 1,500 fires that could break out in a major earthquake. Such a temblor is likely to leave large parts of this region without water or power.

The retrofitting requirements must be approved by the City Council, and would have to be paid for by the building owners, with the costs presumably passed on to tenants and renters. The costs could be significant: $5,000 per unit in vulnerable wooden buildings and $15 per square foot for office buildings, Mr. Garcetti said.

Business owners, who have expressed concern in the past that these kinds of programs may be unaffordable, said the cost of retrofitting some buildings could easily exceed $1 million each.

Carol Schatz, the head of the Central City Association of Los Angeles, a business advocacy organization, said that while she was glad the city was giving building owners time to comply, it needed to provide some sort of financial assistance. “The most meaningful incentive is a low-interest or no-interest loan or a grant,” she said. “That’s what probably would mean the most.”

City officials said 15,000 so-called soft-story wood buildings built before 1980 — typically those built over open garages or carports, and held up by a few pillars — would have to be retrofitted. An additional 1,500 concrete buildings constructed before 1980 would have to be inspected, and officials said they expected 1,000 of those would have to undergo extensive rehabilitation.

“The weight of the concrete makes them particularly deadly when they fail,” the report said.

The soft-story complexes would have to be fixed within five years. The office buildings would have up to 30 years, given the high costs of that kind of work.

Mr. Garcetti said other major parts of the program would be even more expensive. They include replacing aging water pipes with earthquake-resistant ones, strengthening water aqueducts that cross the San Andreas fault and creating a telecommunications system that would continue to operate during the inevitable power failures.

“This will cost us billions of dollars in the private and public sector,” Mr. Garcetti said. “But we cannot afford not to do it.”

He suggested that he would support a statewide bond issue to cover many of the costs.

The report by a seismic safety task force, released with fanfare in a news conference at City Hall on Monday, signaled that Mr. Garcetti has seized on earthquake preparedness as a defining issue of his mayoralty. Shortly after he took office, he recruited Lucy Jones, a seismologist with the United States Geological Survey and something of a celebrity in a city that is very aware of the potential danger of its location, to spend a year in City Hall helping Los Angeles devise a strategy.

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“We want to keep the city up and running after the earthquake happens,” Ms. Jones said. “If everything in this report is enacted, I believe that L.A. will not just survive the next earthquake, but will be able to recover quickly.”

Los Angeles has long been criticized for lagging San Francisco in taking measures to minimize the loss of life and property in an earthquake. But if the Council approves the measures, this city will leapfrog San Francisco.

The last major earthquake here was the 6.7-magnitude Northridge quake, which killed close to 60 people in 1994. But it was not close to the catastrophe that seismologists predict if there is a major shift on the San Andreas fault, and the fact that it has not produced a major quake in recent years has fed a sense of complacency, Mr. Garcetti said. “Here in earthquake country, those responsibilities have been shirked far too long,” he said.

While buildings were a main thrust of the report, it dealt as well with what Ms. Jones has long warned are two other major problems: a drastic loss of water for drinking and firefighting, and a breakdown of communications.

Los Angeles imports much of its drinking water, and 32 of its aqueducts cross the fault. The water network under the streets is aging and vulnerable, too, and Mr. Garcetti said the city should replace the system with pipes engineered to resist an earthquake.

Ms. Jones said she was not looking to set policy but to identify what needed to be done. But she acknowledged that to a large extent, the report only laid out goals with suggestions for achieving them.

“The Council has got its work cut out for it,” she said. “We didn’t do everything here.”

A version of this article appears in print on December 9, 2014, on page A16 of the New York edition with the headline: Earthquake Plan Would Require Retrofitting Thousands of Los Angeles Buildings.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Fire damage is the same thing that happened several times in Japan after larger quakes. There are probably multiple examples of this over time as well as the resulting consequences of ruined infrastructure.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Presume fires will break out in the same way with another similar earthquake and cause the same amount of damage, or has some factor changed since 1906?

Building codes are continually evolving.

Biggest concern immediately after will be sheared gas lines and them interacting with downed power lines.

The August earthquake in the north SF Bay was a reminder of what can happen considering the amount of "old" buildings in the state in various states of seismic retrofitting.

My concern is a while ago the concern of a "big one" on one fault being enough to kick off a neighboring fault(s) in a daisy chain was given validity by geologists. We've got a lot of "stuck" faults in the area and though one going off would be bad, more than one would be a heck of a lot worse.
 
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