mistaken1
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Suddenly the british are concerned with the fate of 3rd worlders, how noble.
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Suddenly the british are concerned with the fate of 3rd worlders, how noble.
They are going to guarantee the life and safety of those mariners and ships? The owners, operators and most important the insurance companies are going to want that guarantee in writing. As someone mentioned above what will they be bringing in?
DuckandCover
Proud Sheeple
I read recently that the ruble is being propped up because Russia now requires their corporations to use 80% of their profits from overseas sales to buy the ruble.
DuckandCover
Proud Sheeple
That's right. However many there were, I don't like to see innocent Russians, Ukranians, Americans or any other nationality or ethnic group suffer and die. The suffering in this war was started by the Russians.
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apnews.com
Russian sentenced to life in Ukraine’s 1st war crimes trial
By ELENA BECATOROS, OLEKSANDR STASHEVSKYI and RICARDO MAZALAN
57 minutes ago
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A captured Russian soldier who pleaded guilty to killing a civilian was sentenced by a Ukrainian court Monday to life in prison — the maximum — amid signs the Kremlin may, in turn, put on trial some of the fighters who surrendered at Mariupol’s steelworks.
Meanwhile, in a rare public expression of opposition to the war from the ranks of the Russian elite, a veteran Kremlin diplomat resigned and sent a scathing letter to foreign colleagues in which he said of the invasion, “Never have I been so ashamed of my country as on Feb. 24.”
Also, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called for “maximum” sanctions against Russia in a video address to world leaders and executives at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
And on the battlefield, heavy fighting raged in the Donbas in the east, where Moscow’s forces have stepped up their bombardment. Cities not under Russian control were constantly shelled, and one Ukrainian official said Russian forces targeted civilians trying to flee.
In the first of what could be a multitude of war crimes trials held by Ukraine, Russian Sgt. Vadim Shishimarin, 21, was sentenced for the killing of a 62-year-old man who was shot in the head in a village in the northeastern Sumy region in the opening days of the war.
RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR
His Ukraine-appointed defense attorney, Victor Ovsyanikov, argued his client had been unprepared for the “violent military confrontation” and mass casualties that Russian troops encountered when they invaded. He said he would appeal.
Ukrainian civil liberties advocate Volodymyr Yavorskyy said it was “an extremely harsh sentence for one murder during the war.” But Aarif Abraham, a British-based human rights lawyer, said the trial was conducted “with what appears to be full and fair due process,” including access to an attorney.
Ukrainian prosecutors are investigating thousands of potential war crimes. Russian forces in Mariupol bombed a theater where civilians were sheltering and struck a maternity hospital. In the wake of Moscow’s withdrawal from around Kyiv weeks ago, mass graves were discovered and streets were strewn with bodies in towns such as Bucha.
Before Shishimarin’s sentencing, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow was unable to defend the soldier but will consider trying to do so “through other channels.”
Mary Ellen O’Connell, an expert on international law at the University of Notre Dame, said that putting Shishimarin on trial could prove “extremely detrimental to Ukrainian soldiers in the hands of Russia.” She said Russia may decide to hold “show trials” of Ukrainians to boost the morale of its own soldiers and spread disinformation.
“Maybe it would have happened without the Ukrainians beginning trials,” O’Connell said. “But the timing suggests that the Ukrainians should have held back and perhaps still should, so that the Russians can’t say, ‘We’re just doing to their soldiers what they did to ours.’”
Russian authorities have threatened to hold trials of captured Ukrainians — namely, fighters who held out at Mariupol’s shattered steel plant, the last stronghold of resistance in the strategic southern port city. They surrendered and were taken prisoner last week, at which point Moscow claimed the capture of Mariupol was complete.
Russia’s main investigative body said it intends to interrogate the Mariupol defenders to “identify the nationalists” and determine whether they were involved in crimes against civilians.
Russian authorities have seized upon the far-right origins of one of the regiments there, calling the Azov Regiment’s fighters “Nazis” and accusing their commander without evidence of “numerous atrocities.” Russia’s top prosecutor has asked the country’s Supreme Court to designate the Azov Regiment a terrorist organization.
Family members of the fighters have pleaded for their eventual return to Ukraine as part of a prisoner swap.
Elsewhere, Boris Bondarev, a veteran Russian diplomat at the U.N. office at Geneva, quit and sent a letter denouncing the “aggressive war unleashed” by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Bondarev told The Associated Press: “It is intolerable what my government is doing now.”
In his letter, Bondarev said those who conceived the war “want only one thing — to remain in power forever, live in pompous tasteless palaces, sail on yachts comparable in tonnage and cost to the entire Russian Navy, enjoying unlimited power and complete impunity.”
He also said Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs is all about “warmongering, lies and hatred.”
At the Davos forum, Zelenskyy said sanctions against the Kremlin must go further. He urged an embargo on Russian oil, a complete cutoff of trade and a withdrawal of foreign companies from the country.
“This is what sanctions should be: They should be maximum, so that Russia and every other potential aggressor that wants to wage a brutal war against its neighbor would clearly know the immediate consequences of their actions,” said Zelenskyy, who received a standing ovation.
In other developments, nearly 50 defense leaders from around the world met Monday and agreed to send more advanced weapons to Ukraine, including missiles to protect its coast, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters in Washington.
On the battlefield, Russian forces increased their bombardment of the Donbas, the eastern industrial heartland of coal mines and factories that Russia is bent on capturing.
Donetsk’s regional governor, Pavlo Kyrylenko, said three civilians died in Russian attacks there Monday and heavy fighting continued near the Luhansk region. The Donbas consists of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
He said the Russians were decimating cities in their attempt to take them over. Only about 320,000 people out of the region’s prewar population of 1.6 million remain, and Russian forces are targeting evacuation efforts, he said.
“They are killing us. They are killing the locals during evacuation,” Kyrylenko said.
On the eve of the three-month anniversary of the start of the war, Zelensky said four missiles killed 87 people last week in the town of Desna, 55 kilometers (34 miles) north of Kyiv.
The Russians have now concentrated their forces on Donbas cities and “are trying to destroy all life,” Zelenskyy said in his evening address to the nation.
In the Luhansk region, U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said, local authorities reported that a bridge leading to the administrative center of Sievierodonetsk was destroyed, leaving the partially encircled city reachable by just one road.
Some who fled the Donetsk region shared their suffering.
“We haven’t been able to see the sun for three months. We are almost blind because we were in darkness for three months,” said Rayisa Rybalko, who hid with her family first in their basement and then in a bomb shelter at a school before fleeing their village of Novomykhailivka. “The world should have seen that.”
Her son-in-law Dmytro Khaliapin said heavy artillery pounded the village. “Houses are being ruined,” he said. “It’s a horror.”
___
Becatoros reported from Kramatorsk, Ukraine. Associated Press journalists Yuras Karmanau in Lviv, Andrea Rosa in Kharkiv, Danica Kirka in London and other AP staffers around the world contributed.
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Follow AP’s coverage of the war in Ukraine: Russia-Ukraine | Breaking News & Live Updates | AP News
Russian sentenced to life in Ukraine's 1st war crimes trial
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A captured Russian soldier who pleaded guilty to killing a civilian was sentenced by a Ukrainian court Monday to life in prison — the maximum — amid signs the Kremlin may, in turn, put on trial some of the fighters who surrendered at Mariupol’s steelworks.
apnews.com
Russian sentenced to life in Ukraine’s 1st war crimes trial
By ELENA BECATOROS, OLEKSANDR STASHEVSKYI and RICARDO MAZALAN
57 minutes ago
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A captured Russian soldier who pleaded guilty to killing a civilian was sentenced by a Ukrainian court Monday to life in prison — the maximum — amid signs the Kremlin may, in turn, put on trial some of the fighters who surrendered at Mariupol’s steelworks.
Meanwhile, in a rare public expression of opposition to the war from the ranks of the Russian elite, a veteran Kremlin diplomat resigned and sent a scathing letter to foreign colleagues in which he said of the invasion, “Never have I been so ashamed of my country as on Feb. 24.”
Also, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called for “maximum” sanctions against Russia in a video address to world leaders and executives at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
And on the battlefield, heavy fighting raged in the Donbas in the east, where Moscow’s forces have stepped up their bombardment. Cities not under Russian control were constantly shelled, and one Ukrainian official said Russian forces targeted civilians trying to flee.
In the first of what could be a multitude of war crimes trials held by Ukraine, Russian Sgt. Vadim Shishimarin, 21, was sentenced for the killing of a 62-year-old man who was shot in the head in a village in the northeastern Sumy region in the opening days of the war.
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His Ukraine-appointed defense attorney, Victor Ovsyanikov, argued his client had been unprepared for the “violent military confrontation” and mass casualties that Russian troops encountered when they invaded. He said he would appeal.
Ukrainian civil liberties advocate Volodymyr Yavorskyy said it was “an extremely harsh sentence for one murder during the war.” But Aarif Abraham, a British-based human rights lawyer, said the trial was conducted “with what appears to be full and fair due process,” including access to an attorney.
Ukrainian prosecutors are investigating thousands of potential war crimes. Russian forces in Mariupol bombed a theater where civilians were sheltering and struck a maternity hospital. In the wake of Moscow’s withdrawal from around Kyiv weeks ago, mass graves were discovered and streets were strewn with bodies in towns such as Bucha.
Before Shishimarin’s sentencing, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow was unable to defend the soldier but will consider trying to do so “through other channels.”
Mary Ellen O’Connell, an expert on international law at the University of Notre Dame, said that putting Shishimarin on trial could prove “extremely detrimental to Ukrainian soldiers in the hands of Russia.” She said Russia may decide to hold “show trials” of Ukrainians to boost the morale of its own soldiers and spread disinformation.
“Maybe it would have happened without the Ukrainians beginning trials,” O’Connell said. “But the timing suggests that the Ukrainians should have held back and perhaps still should, so that the Russians can’t say, ‘We’re just doing to their soldiers what they did to ours.’”
Russian authorities have threatened to hold trials of captured Ukrainians — namely, fighters who held out at Mariupol’s shattered steel plant, the last stronghold of resistance in the strategic southern port city. They surrendered and were taken prisoner last week, at which point Moscow claimed the capture of Mariupol was complete.
Russia’s main investigative body said it intends to interrogate the Mariupol defenders to “identify the nationalists” and determine whether they were involved in crimes against civilians.
Russian authorities have seized upon the far-right origins of one of the regiments there, calling the Azov Regiment’s fighters “Nazis” and accusing their commander without evidence of “numerous atrocities.” Russia’s top prosecutor has asked the country’s Supreme Court to designate the Azov Regiment a terrorist organization.
Family members of the fighters have pleaded for their eventual return to Ukraine as part of a prisoner swap.
Elsewhere, Boris Bondarev, a veteran Russian diplomat at the U.N. office at Geneva, quit and sent a letter denouncing the “aggressive war unleashed” by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Bondarev told The Associated Press: “It is intolerable what my government is doing now.”
In his letter, Bondarev said those who conceived the war “want only one thing — to remain in power forever, live in pompous tasteless palaces, sail on yachts comparable in tonnage and cost to the entire Russian Navy, enjoying unlimited power and complete impunity.”
He also said Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs is all about “warmongering, lies and hatred.”
At the Davos forum, Zelenskyy said sanctions against the Kremlin must go further. He urged an embargo on Russian oil, a complete cutoff of trade and a withdrawal of foreign companies from the country.
“This is what sanctions should be: They should be maximum, so that Russia and every other potential aggressor that wants to wage a brutal war against its neighbor would clearly know the immediate consequences of their actions,” said Zelenskyy, who received a standing ovation.
In other developments, nearly 50 defense leaders from around the world met Monday and agreed to send more advanced weapons to Ukraine, including missiles to protect its coast, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters in Washington.
On the battlefield, Russian forces increased their bombardment of the Donbas, the eastern industrial heartland of coal mines and factories that Russia is bent on capturing.
Donetsk’s regional governor, Pavlo Kyrylenko, said three civilians died in Russian attacks there Monday and heavy fighting continued near the Luhansk region. The Donbas consists of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
He said the Russians were decimating cities in their attempt to take them over. Only about 320,000 people out of the region’s prewar population of 1.6 million remain, and Russian forces are targeting evacuation efforts, he said.
“They are killing us. They are killing the locals during evacuation,” Kyrylenko said.
On the eve of the three-month anniversary of the start of the war, Zelensky said four missiles killed 87 people last week in the town of Desna, 55 kilometers (34 miles) north of Kyiv.
The Russians have now concentrated their forces on Donbas cities and “are trying to destroy all life,” Zelenskyy said in his evening address to the nation.
In the Luhansk region, U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said, local authorities reported that a bridge leading to the administrative center of Sievierodonetsk was destroyed, leaving the partially encircled city reachable by just one road.
Some who fled the Donetsk region shared their suffering.
“We haven’t been able to see the sun for three months. We are almost blind because we were in darkness for three months,” said Rayisa Rybalko, who hid with her family first in their basement and then in a bomb shelter at a school before fleeing their village of Novomykhailivka. “The world should have seen that.”
Her son-in-law Dmytro Khaliapin said heavy artillery pounded the village. “Houses are being ruined,” he said. “It’s a horror.”
___
Becatoros reported from Kramatorsk, Ukraine. Associated Press journalists Yuras Karmanau in Lviv, Andrea Rosa in Kharkiv, Danica Kirka in London and other AP staffers around the world contributed.
___
Follow AP’s coverage of the war in Ukraine: Russia-Ukraine | Breaking News & Live Updates | AP News
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
Besides the 8 years of Ukrainian Nazis killing thousands of Russian speaking Ukrainians with the blessing of the Ukrainian usurpers, turns out that the US has funded quite a bunch of biological labs apparently for biological warfare research and development. Russia was quite concerned about those and that was the primary target at the beginning of their expedition into Ukraine. The American MSM has refused to touch that one. So if you find out that your neighbor and his rich friend have been planning on taking you down with A dangerous biological they’ve been mixing up in the cellar, and the police (UN) show’s no interest in checking out your story, YOU are not going to take any action to find out the facts of the matter? I believe you would take action, and the sooner the better.
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jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
No, the suffering was started by the CIA-backed usurpers in Kiev and their pit bull Nazis in the Donbas, for eight long bloody years. Hence the Minsk Agreement which Kiev agreed to then ignored. Meanwhile our government funded Kiev to the MIC hearts delight.
wait-n-see
Veteran Member
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Russian sentenced to life in Ukraine's 1st war crimes trial
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A captured Russian soldier who pleaded guilty to killing a civilian was sentenced by a Ukrainian court Monday to life in prison — the maximum — amid signs the Kremlin may, in turn, put on trial some of the fighters who surrendered at Mariupol’s steelworks.
Russian sentenced to life in Ukraine’s 1st war crimes trial
By ELENA BECATOROS, OLEKSANDR STASHEVSKYI and RICARDO MAZALAN
57 minutes ago
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A captured Russian soldier who pleaded guilty to killing a civilian was sentenced by a Ukrainian court Monday to life in prison — the maximum — amid signs the Kremlin may, in turn, put on trial some of the fighters who surrendered at Mariupol’s steelworks.
Meanwhile, in a rare public expression of opposition to the war from the ranks of the Russian elite, a veteran Kremlin diplomat resigned and sent a scathing letter to foreign colleagues in which he said of the invasion, “Never have I been so ashamed of my country as on Feb. 24.”
Also, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called for “maximum” sanctions against Russia in a video address to world leaders and executives at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
And on the battlefield, heavy fighting raged in the Donbas in the east, where Moscow’s forces have stepped up their bombardment. Cities not under Russian control were constantly shelled, and one Ukrainian official said Russian forces targeted civilians trying to flee.
In the first of what could be a multitude of war crimes trials held by Ukraine, Russian Sgt. Vadim Shishimarin, 21, was sentenced for the killing of a 62-year-old man who was shot in the head in a village in the northeastern Sumy region in the opening days of the war.
RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR
'They ruined everything': Fleeing the devastation in Ukraine
After 3 months of war, life in Russia has profoundly changed
Shishimarin, a member of a tank unit, had claimed he was following orders, and he apologized to the man’s widow in court.
Live updates | Zelenskyy: Recent attack on Desna killed 87
Biden: US would intervene with military to defend Taiwan
His Ukraine-appointed defense attorney, Victor Ovsyanikov, argued his client had been unprepared for the “violent military confrontation” and mass casualties that Russian troops encountered when they invaded. He said he would appeal.
Ukrainian civil liberties advocate Volodymyr Yavorskyy said it was “an extremely harsh sentence for one murder during the war.” But Aarif Abraham, a British-based human rights lawyer, said the trial was conducted “with what appears to be full and fair due process,” including access to an attorney.
Ukrainian prosecutors are investigating thousands of potential war crimes. Russian forces in Mariupol bombed a theater where civilians were sheltering and struck a maternity hospital. In the wake of Moscow’s withdrawal from around Kyiv weeks ago, mass graves were discovered and streets were strewn with bodies in towns such as Bucha.
Before Shishimarin’s sentencing, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow was unable to defend the soldier but will consider trying to do so “through other channels.”
Mary Ellen O’Connell, an expert on international law at the University of Notre Dame, said that putting Shishimarin on trial could prove “extremely detrimental to Ukrainian soldiers in the hands of Russia.” She said Russia may decide to hold “show trials” of Ukrainians to boost the morale of its own soldiers and spread disinformation.
“Maybe it would have happened without the Ukrainians beginning trials,” O’Connell said. “But the timing suggests that the Ukrainians should have held back and perhaps still should, so that the Russians can’t say, ‘We’re just doing to their soldiers what they did to ours.’”
Russian authorities have threatened to hold trials of captured Ukrainians — namely, fighters who held out at Mariupol’s shattered steel plant, the last stronghold of resistance in the strategic southern port city. They surrendered and were taken prisoner last week, at which point Moscow claimed the capture of Mariupol was complete.
Russia’s main investigative body said it intends to interrogate the Mariupol defenders to “identify the nationalists” and determine whether they were involved in crimes against civilians.
Russian authorities have seized upon the far-right origins of one of the regiments there, calling the Azov Regiment’s fighters “Nazis” and accusing their commander without evidence of “numerous atrocities.” Russia’s top prosecutor has asked the country’s Supreme Court to designate the Azov Regiment a terrorist organization.
Family members of the fighters have pleaded for their eventual return to Ukraine as part of a prisoner swap.
Elsewhere, Boris Bondarev, a veteran Russian diplomat at the U.N. office at Geneva, quit and sent a letter denouncing the “aggressive war unleashed” by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Bondarev told The Associated Press: “It is intolerable what my government is doing now.”
In his letter, Bondarev said those who conceived the war “want only one thing — to remain in power forever, live in pompous tasteless palaces, sail on yachts comparable in tonnage and cost to the entire Russian Navy, enjoying unlimited power and complete impunity.”
He also said Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs is all about “warmongering, lies and hatred.”
At the Davos forum, Zelenskyy said sanctions against the Kremlin must go further. He urged an embargo on Russian oil, a complete cutoff of trade and a withdrawal of foreign companies from the country.
“This is what sanctions should be: They should be maximum, so that Russia and every other potential aggressor that wants to wage a brutal war against its neighbor would clearly know the immediate consequences of their actions,” said Zelenskyy, who received a standing ovation.
In other developments, nearly 50 defense leaders from around the world met Monday and agreed to send more advanced weapons to Ukraine, including missiles to protect its coast, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters in Washington.
On the battlefield, Russian forces increased their bombardment of the Donbas, the eastern industrial heartland of coal mines and factories that Russia is bent on capturing.
Donetsk’s regional governor, Pavlo Kyrylenko, said three civilians died in Russian attacks there Monday and heavy fighting continued near the Luhansk region. The Donbas consists of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
He said the Russians were decimating cities in their attempt to take them over. Only about 320,000 people out of the region’s prewar population of 1.6 million remain, and Russian forces are targeting evacuation efforts, he said.
“They are killing us. They are killing the locals during evacuation,” Kyrylenko said.
On the eve of the three-month anniversary of the start of the war, Zelensky said four missiles killed 87 people last week in the town of Desna, 55 kilometers (34 miles) north of Kyiv.
The Russians have now concentrated their forces on Donbas cities and “are trying to destroy all life,” Zelenskyy said in his evening address to the nation.
In the Luhansk region, U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said, local authorities reported that a bridge leading to the administrative center of Sievierodonetsk was destroyed, leaving the partially encircled city reachable by just one road.
Some who fled the Donetsk region shared their suffering.
“We haven’t been able to see the sun for three months. We are almost blind because we were in darkness for three months,” said Rayisa Rybalko, who hid with her family first in their basement and then in a bomb shelter at a school before fleeing their village of Novomykhailivka. “The world should have seen that.”
Her son-in-law Dmytro Khaliapin said heavy artillery pounded the village. “Houses are being ruined,” he said. “It’s a horror.”
___
Becatoros reported from Kramatorsk, Ukraine. Associated Press journalists Yuras Karmanau in Lviv, Andrea Rosa in Kharkiv, Danica Kirka in London and other AP staffers around the world contributed.
___
Follow AP’s coverage of the war in Ukraine: Russia-Ukraine | Breaking News & Live Updates | AP News
So I guess this means that Ukraine, and their hired mercenaries, should not be able to complain when Russia starts doing their own trials for the fighters they capture?
Both sides are pretty dirty so there should be quite a lot of show trials coming up for both.
Nowski
Let's Go Brandon!
Perhaps the grains needing to be shipped, can present a possible solution
to the Russia-Ukraine war.
1. Russia could state to Brandon and Zelenskyy, pull all of your troops
out of The Donbas, and the ships carrying the wheat, will be free to
transit The Black Sea.
2. The Donbas is mostly Russian speaking people, and Russia will
eventually gain the liberation of The Donbas from Ukraine,
and there is nothing that Brandon or Zelenskyy can do to stop it.
How many will be left to die, and how much more of Ukraine will be
destroyed, will then be up to Brandon and Zelenskyy.
Please be safe everyone.
Regards to all.
Nowski
to the Russia-Ukraine war.
1. Russia could state to Brandon and Zelenskyy, pull all of your troops
out of The Donbas, and the ships carrying the wheat, will be free to
transit The Black Sea.
2. The Donbas is mostly Russian speaking people, and Russia will
eventually gain the liberation of The Donbas from Ukraine,
and there is nothing that Brandon or Zelenskyy can do to stop it.
How many will be left to die, and how much more of Ukraine will be
destroyed, will then be up to Brandon and Zelenskyy.
Please be safe everyone.
Regards to all.
Nowski
Well, that has been the problem from the beginning just like here at home.
The Woke Sky Screamer Liberals don't negotiate.
They demand in absolutes - there is no negotiate.
It is do this or die.
By himself with the resources currently on hand.
vector7
Dot Collector
Zelensky just requested 5 billion per month from the global community at the World Economic Forum. Sometimes I can’t believe this is real life but it is.
View: https://twitter.com/QZ1mR1OOHjjM8YS/status/1528820936522317824?t=v134bWx8cmcKafiylr3RPg&s=19
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WTSR
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Zelensky admits 87 Ukrops dead at Desna attack
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clones
jward
passin' thru
hmm.
Israel Radar
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#Israeli defense company IAI plans to boost presence in European countries bordering Russia (via @haaretz); IAI builds advanced air defense systems including Arrow 3, Barak 8.
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#Israeli defense company IAI plans to boost presence in European countries bordering Russia (via @haaretz); IAI builds advanced air defense systems including Arrow 3, Barak 8.
jward
passin' thru
EndGameWW3
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Russian media: Kherson Province will ask Moscow to establish a Russian military base in the region.
vector7
Dot Collector
Mitt Romney Calls On NATO To Prepare For Potential Russian Nuclear Strikes
View: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1528943950517743616?t=9bqCwzjji0ktc-SFxP-oMA&s=19
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Don't worry, good ol' Uncle Sugar will pay for it to be fixed for you.
vector7
Dot Collector
The Lithuanian Government is reportedly planning to request that Allied Nations including the United States, Britain, France, and Turkey launch a Naval Operation to retake Ukrainian Coastal Ports in the Black Sea, this will allow International Food Export to continue unimpeded.
View: https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1528854276054962176?t=7MN2quEvDn42Pdb4NuaXXg&s=19
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
Just a note: I attended a class this past weekend mostly on milling and baking with whole grains, especially those that can be grown in Ireland.
This included a guest speaker who talked some about the "supply crises", especially that of wheat.
He said that until just a few years ago, almost all the "hard" wheat imported into Ireland came in from Canada and I can remember that because 10 years ago when I got my Country Living Grain mill, that's what I got when I ordered wheat berries for grinding.
Then Canada had a bad harvest (drought-related) two years in a row and most of Europe started to rely on Ukrain for HARD wheat. It is also grown in limited amounts in other areas of Europe but most of what is grown here are "softer" wheat varieties like Durham or ancestral varieties like Spelt or Emmer.
Anyway, I will talk about this more on another thread, but the point that is relevant to this war is that Ukraine is not the ONLY place that can grow hard Winter Wheat. It is just the one that Europe and many countries in the Middle East became dependent on when the Canadian Wheat was scarce.
Now instead of looking at either traditional forms of wheat they can grow and use for internal consumption or seriously looking for other import markets that grow wheat, the EU (or at least Ireland) just seems "stalled" on just saying they may "run of out of Wheat" in October.
This whole idea of a counter-invasion of Ukraine by a "Collation of the Willing" to "free food exports" is exactly that an excuse for a NATO Plus friends invasion via the back door.
If NATO or whoever decides to take on Putin and become involved in the war is one thing, but pulling the wool over the public's eyes and insisting the world will starve to death if they don't, is a pretty interesting piece of propaganda. One I'd rather read about in the history books than live through.
This included a guest speaker who talked some about the "supply crises", especially that of wheat.
He said that until just a few years ago, almost all the "hard" wheat imported into Ireland came in from Canada and I can remember that because 10 years ago when I got my Country Living Grain mill, that's what I got when I ordered wheat berries for grinding.
Then Canada had a bad harvest (drought-related) two years in a row and most of Europe started to rely on Ukrain for HARD wheat. It is also grown in limited amounts in other areas of Europe but most of what is grown here are "softer" wheat varieties like Durham or ancestral varieties like Spelt or Emmer.
Anyway, I will talk about this more on another thread, but the point that is relevant to this war is that Ukraine is not the ONLY place that can grow hard Winter Wheat. It is just the one that Europe and many countries in the Middle East became dependent on when the Canadian Wheat was scarce.
Now instead of looking at either traditional forms of wheat they can grow and use for internal consumption or seriously looking for other import markets that grow wheat, the EU (or at least Ireland) just seems "stalled" on just saying they may "run of out of Wheat" in October.
This whole idea of a counter-invasion of Ukraine by a "Collation of the Willing" to "free food exports" is exactly that an excuse for a NATO Plus friends invasion via the back door.
If NATO or whoever decides to take on Putin and become involved in the war is one thing, but pulling the wool over the public's eyes and insisting the world will starve to death if they don't, is a pretty interesting piece of propaganda. One I'd rather read about in the history books than live through.
What other grains can/do they grow over there and is the seed avail? What about the harvest and processing equipment?
northern watch
TB Fanatic
Today I have two headlines from source A and source B, which one do you think is telling the truth?
Source A After 3 months, Russia still bogged down in Ukraine war
Source B Russia-Ukraine latest news: Putin 25km from encircling elite Ukrainian unit in major Donbas victory
Source A After 3 months, Russia still bogged down in Ukraine war
Source B Russia-Ukraine latest news: Putin 25km from encircling elite Ukrainian unit in major Donbas victory
Both. I think Russia is paying more in men and treasure than they anticipated. The capture of the rest of Luhansk oblast is a major victory in Donbas for them.
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Melodi
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It is complicated and I was trying to keep things from getting too off-topic on the main Russia thread - but one of the huge problems for wheat growers is that it is illegal to "mix seeds" or use local seeds these days in the commercial market. Even seeds that are not GMO are "owned" by the big seed companies (and there are only a few of them in the world).
The other big problems for this year are:
1. It is simply too late to start a crop before October in much of Europe.
2. Because of the scare, most countries are refusing to export at this point, though with 20/20 hindsight Europe shot itself in the foot and decided to rely on "muni markets."
3. There are thousands of varieties of wheat out there, but the big seed companies only encourage a few; plus almost all the Western Markets are set up to use just one basic type of bread, and consumers expect only that type of bread.
Instead of looking for other types of wheat, which are out there, and educating the public that for a time, basic loaf bread made with strong wheat is going to be very expensive but there will be other options like flat pieces types bread (tortillas, naan, pita, English muffins, and other traditional forms of bread that don't need a high gluten content).
I am not saying the nice man giving the talk thought he had all the answers, just that by relying on a mono-crop from one area and not even looking at other producers or even types of grain; Ireland (and much of Europe) has put themselves in the same boat as the Germans (and others) did over natural gas.
The two main growers of that particular type of wheat these days outside of Canada and parts of the US are Russia and Ukraine. Time for some creative uses of other grains and types of wheat in the short term (like the sort they do grow in Italy and Spain) and a rethink on relying on just one or two places to import from in the future.
Now back to the main thread - I only brought this up because not the "food crises" is being used as an excuse for a back door invasion - if NATO And friends decide to invade then do so (I'm not saying it is a good thing) but don't pretend there are no other food options because they exist. They will probably get used before this is all over anyway, because even if Ukraine is "free" or Russia is our "frenemy" trading partner again; relying on just one main market is asking for destruction.
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I suspect what they are referring to is a massacre by the Ukrainians on Russian speaking Ukrainians back in 2014, (?) 2008 (?) meaning not this present war. Down in the southern Ukraine. Where was the US and US media when that happened?
WE in the west so easily forget history, those in the East do not.
And BTW watching some WWII shows and the maps they present: Ukraine's eastern border ended at the Dnieper River, everything on the east side to include Crimea, was the Russian Empire. And during that war Russia had the Armies in the SE portion of Europe named North and South Ukraine Army.
Just saying Putin is referencing history as his reason for his moves.
NOT that I agree with them. In fact I am very much against these moves of his, despite his historic reasons. He/they should have dealt with this back in '92, instead of trusting the good graces of the US, and NATO. So Putin should realize that what is done is done, and get over it. We ain't giving back TX and CA either. Well at least TX. Same reasons Iraq invaded Kuwait. Until England drew a line on a map after WWI it belonged to Iraq.
vector7
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Notice the rhetoric shift
Now both the NY Times Editorial Board and Henry Kissinger at the WEF are both calling for a negotiated peace for Ukraine even it it means ceding territory to Russia
Can we get our $40 Billion back?
No that was to fortify the Midterms.
View: https://twitter.com/HenneyMatt/status/1529063443185164290?t=MWbXhmYJC3peoyt0Q3ixMA&s=19
Now both the NY Times Editorial Board and Henry Kissinger at the WEF are both calling for a negotiated peace for Ukraine even it it means ceding territory to Russia
Can we get our $40 Billion back?
No that was to fortify the Midterms.
View: https://twitter.com/HenneyMatt/status/1529063443185164290?t=MWbXhmYJC3peoyt0Q3ixMA&s=19
vector7
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RUSSIA, CHINA WARPLANES ENTER S. KOREA AIR DEFENSE ZONE - YONHAP
View: https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1529042189426184193?t=5-YALs0q_QA4htVlZAVd8Q&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1529042189426184193?t=5-YALs0q_QA4htVlZAVd8Q&s=19
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Fuad Alakbarov
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This is current situation in Donbas. Bakhmut and Sievierodonetsk's potential loss could doom Soledar and big targets here are: Kramatorsk and Sloviansk.
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This is current situation in Donbas. Bakhmut and Sievierodonetsk's potential loss could doom Soledar and big targets here are: Kramatorsk and Sloviansk.
danielboon
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China and Russia hold first military exercise since Ukraine invasion
Reuters
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Flags of China and Russia are displayed in this illustration picture taken March 24, 2022. REUTERS/Florence Lo/Illustration
May 24 (Reuters) - China and Russia's air forces conducted a joint aerial patrol on Tuesday over the Sea of Japan, East China Sea and the Western Pacific, China's defence ministry said.
The patrol, the first since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, was part of an annual military exercise, the ministry said on its official website.
The two countries had previously held such patrols in 2019, 2020 and 2021 but in the latter half of the year.
Russia has faced a barrage of sanctions from Western countries over its Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, which it calls a "special military operation". Beijing has not condemned Russia's attack and does not call it an invasion, but has urged a negotiated solution.
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Reuters
1 minute read
Flags of China and Russia are displayed in this illustration picture taken March 24, 2022. REUTERS/Florence Lo/Illustration
May 24 (Reuters) - China and Russia's air forces conducted a joint aerial patrol on Tuesday over the Sea of Japan, East China Sea and the Western Pacific, China's defence ministry said.
The patrol, the first since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, was part of an annual military exercise, the ministry said on its official website.
The two countries had previously held such patrols in 2019, 2020 and 2021 but in the latter half of the year.
Russia has faced a barrage of sanctions from Western countries over its Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, which it calls a "special military operation". Beijing has not condemned Russia's attack and does not call it an invasion, but has urged a negotiated solution.
China and Russia hold first military exercise since Ukraine invasion
China and Russia's air forces conducted a joint aerial patrol on Tuesday over the Sea of Japan, East China Sea and the Western Pacific, China's defence ministry said.
www.reuters.com
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Taiwan better be getting ready for that intrusion
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Taiwan better be getting ready for that intrusion
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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban declares a wartime state of emergency immediately after his new government was installed https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-24/hungary-s-orban-declares-state-of-emergency-over-war-economy…via
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The state of emergency, a new tool Parliament approved earlier on Tuesday, will take effect at midnight and will give the government “maneuvering room and the ability to react immediately” to the fallout from the war in neighboring Ukraine.
mistaken1
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Not invasion, not war, just a special operation to free the advanced chip production facilities from the clutches of western imperialism.
How many more chips have to die before china rescues them?
jward
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hmm.
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Erdogan ally Bahçeli says if the pressure to accept Sweden and Finland into NATO becomes unbearable, Turkey must consider leaving NATO. He says Turkey shouldn’t approve their bid until they take steps on PKK “We haven’t been created by NATO and we won’t disappear without it.
Ragıp Soylu
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Erdogan ally Bahçeli says if the pressure to accept Sweden and Finland into NATO becomes unbearable, Turkey must consider leaving NATO. He says Turkey shouldn’t approve their bid until they take steps on PKK “We haven’t been created by NATO and we won’t disappear without it.
vector7
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SOROS: “The best and perhaps only way to preserve our civilization is to defeat Putin as soon as possible”
This is a bizarre time to be alive.
View: https://twitter.com/w3sst3r/status/1529161178252967936?t=L9RKovGz9uYfIu7xr44hMQ&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1529153262733168641?t=VCCBm9hMAKRM51pWoIoXPQ&s=19
This is a bizarre time to be alive.
View: https://twitter.com/w3sst3r/status/1529161178252967936?t=L9RKovGz9uYfIu7xr44hMQ&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1529153262733168641?t=VCCBm9hMAKRM51pWoIoXPQ&s=19
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mistaken1
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'Our civilization' sounds like 'our democracy', global government of the elites, by the elites for the elites.
What could possibly go wrong for the rest of humanity?