ALERT Regional middleast war thread Israel and Iran at war
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Only if Israel wants to play in that pond. With the aftermath of 10/7/23 that would be a fool's bargain.
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BREAKING: The Wall Street Journal reports that the Biden Administration is pressing Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu to accept a 'new commitment to Palestinian statehood in exchange for diplomatic recognition by Riyadh'
3:06 PM · Apr 18, 2024
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BREAKING: The Wall Street Journal reports that the Biden Administration is pressing Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu to accept a 'new commitment to Palestinian statehood in exchange for diplomatic recognition by Riyadh'
3:06 PM · Apr 18, 2024
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Jason Brodsky
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Interestingly #IRGCterrorists spokesman pushed back on a story in Maariv about damage to a facility connected to Dimona in #Israel despite #Iran's regime simulating videos in the past destroying the nuclear complex. Tehran is nervous.
View: https://twitter.com/JasonMBrodsky/status/1781086957025530209
@JasonMBrodsky
Interestingly #IRGCterrorists spokesman pushed back on a story in Maariv about damage to a facility connected to Dimona in #Israel despite #Iran's regime simulating videos in the past destroying the nuclear complex. Tehran is nervous.
View: https://twitter.com/JasonMBrodsky/status/1781086957025530209
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apnews.com
US vetoes widely supported UN resolution backing full UN membership for Palestine By EDITH M. LEDERER
Updated 4:31 PM CDT, April 18, 2024
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The United States vetoed a widely backed U.N. resolution on Thursday that would have paved the way for full United Nations membership for the state of Palestine.
The vote in the 15-member Security Council was 12 in favor, the United States opposed and two abstentions.
The resolution would have recommended that the 193-member General Assembly, where there are no vetoes, approve Palestine becoming the 194th member of the United Nations. Some 140 countries have already recognized the state of Palestine, so its admission would have been approved.
This is the second Palestinian attempt to become a full member of the United Nations, and it comes as the war in Gaza, now in its seventh month, has put the more than 75-year-old Israeli-Palestinian conflict at center stage.
Before the vote, U.S. deputy State Department spokesman Vedant Patel said the United States has “been very clear consistently that premature actions in New York — even with the best intentions — will not achieve statehood for the Palestinian people.”
Palestinian membership “needs to be the outcome of the negotiation between Israel and the Palestinians,” U.S. deputy ambassador Robert Wood said. It “is something that would flow from the result of those negotiations.”
Anything that gets in the way “makes it more difficult to have those negotiations” and doesn’t help move toward a two-state solution where Israel and Palestine live side by side in peace, which “we all want,” Wood told reporters.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas first delivered the Palestinian Authority’s application for U.N. membership to then-Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon in 2011. That initial bid failed because the Palestinians didn’t get the required minimum support of nine of the Security Council’s 15 members.
The Palestinians then went to the General Assembly and by more than a two-thirds majority succeeded in having their status raised from a U.N. observer to a non-member observer state in November 2012. That opened the door for the Palestinian territories to join U.N. and other international organizations, including the International Criminal Court.
The Palestinians revived their bid for U.N. membership in early April, backed by the 140 countries that have recognized Palestine as an independent state.
Ziad Abu Amr, special representative of the Palestinian president, said adopting the resolution would grant the Palestinian people hope “for a decent life within an independent state.”
He said such “hope has dissipated over the past years because of the intransigence of the Israeli government that has rejected this solution publicly and blatantly, especially following the destructive war against the Gaza Strip.”
He stressed to the Security Council that it won’t be an alternative “for serious negotiations that are time-bound to implement the two-state solution” and U.N. resolutions, and to resolve pending issues between Palestinians and Israelis.
Amr asked the U.S. and other countries opposed to its U.N. membership how that could damage prospects for peace or harm international peace and security when they already recognize Israel and approved its U.N. membership.
“To grant the state of Palestine full membership will be an important pillar to achieve peace in our region, because the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and its different dimensions now goes beyond the borders of Palestine and Israel and impacts other regions in the Middle East and around the world,” the Palestinian envoy said.
Israeli-Palestinian negotiations have been stalled for years, and Israel’s right-wing government is dominated by hard-liners who oppose Palestinian statehood.
Israeli U.N. Ambassador Gilad Erdan called the resolution “disconnected to the reality on the ground” and warned that it “will cause only destruction for years to come and harm any chance for future dialogue.”
Six months after the Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel by Hamas, which controlled Gaza, and the killing of 1,200 people in “the most brutal massacre of Jews since the Holocaust,” he accused the Security Council of seeking “to reward the perpetrators of these atrocities with statehood.”
Israel’s military offensive in response has killed over 32,000 Palestinians, according to Gaza’s health ministry, and destroyed much of the territory, which speaker after speaker denounced Thursday.
Erdan listed the requirements for U.N. membership — accepting the obligations in the U.N. Charter and especially being a “peace-loving” state.
“What a joke,” he said. “Does anyone doubt that the Palestinians failed to meet these criteria? Did anyone hear any Palestinian leader even condemn the massacre of our children?”
US vetoes widely supported UN resolution backing full UN membership for Palestine
The United States has vetoed a widely backed U.N. resolution that would have paved the way for full United Nations membership for the state of Palestine.
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Merde.....
CapeCMom
Veteran Member
I think they were just doing touch and go. They were flying over my house in that usual pattern. They do it all of the time to get flight time. I live near the runway
AlfaMan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yes. Burst transmissions, transmitted via fiber optic lines to the silos and op centers for the air breathing folks.
The "phone books" are delivered to the sites via courier flying commercial flights however. Every 90 days.
Reasonable Rascal
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I had been under the impression for years that there was no country of Palestine, because it was the people themselves who would be its citizens who have steadfastly rejected it since the 1940's.
If we are admitting people as nation-states why not Kurds, Chinese Uyghurs and others. How about the Cherokee Nation? Inuits?
RR
Reasonable Rascal
Veteran Member
The vote failed on the strength of the US veto alone. All it takes is one permanent member to veto, even if the overall vote was 14:1.
RR
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Still, better than Islam.
Profit of Doom
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Do we have an idea how much was used in defense by the good guys?
Profit of Doom
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Choices have to be made.
Chocolate, or Vanilla.
Well the report was that Iran sent out around 170 "drones", more than 30 LACMs and more than 120 ballistic missiles. To assume 2 interceptor missiles for each incoming one would probably be on the safe side of a guestimation on numbers fired. However how many were in inventory to begin with is a harder question to answer.
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
Explosions were heard in Isfahan in central Iran, in the As-Suwayda Governorate of southern Syria, and in the Baghdad area and Babil Governorate of Iraq early Friday morning, according to initial reports.
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
Sky news is now reporting of explosions in Iran and warplanes over Iraq
Explosions were heard in Isfahan in central Iran, in the As-Suwayda Governorate of southern Syria, and in the Baghdad area and Babil Governorate of Iraq early Friday morning, according to initial reports.
Explosions were heard in Isfahan in central Iran, in the As-Suwayda Governorate of southern Syria, and in the Baghdad area and Babil Governorate of Iraq early Friday morning, according to initial reports.
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
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If it’s not safely possible, you really need to leave.
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
Posted for fair use......
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Iran warned Thursday that if Israel retaliates against Iranian nuclear sites, the nuclear “doctrine” in Tehran could change, in an apparent threat to begin nuclear weapons production in the event of escalation.
Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Brig. Gen. Ahmad Haghtalab, commander of the unit responsible for nuclear sites, issued the threat in a Thursday interview with state-run media Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) ahead of a potential Israeli counter-attack on Iran.
If Israel “intends to resort to the threat of attacking our nuclear facilities as a means to put pressure on Iran, reviewing the current doctrine and nuclear policies of the Islamic Republic and distancing from past considerations is possible and conceivable,” Haghtalab told IRNA.
The threat highlights how tensions are continuing to spiral in the aftermath of an Iranian attack on Israel last weekend.
Iran launched more than 300 missiles and drones on the country, and though Israeli and allied forces shot down almost all of them, Israel has reportedly decided to retaliate for the attempted strike.
Israeli officials have not signaled how, when or where they would strike back against Iran, and officially Israel has not announced any impending action.
Iran is vowing a much harsher response should Israel retaliate. Haghtalab said Thursday that nuclear sites were protected and forces were “ready to counter any threats.”
“To respond to their possible action, we have fingers on the trigger to launch powerful missiles to destroy the identified targets,” he told IRNA.
Iran does not officially possess nuclear weapons, though Tehran has been enriching uranium at levels closer to weapons production since a nuclear deal fell apart in 2018 after former President Trump withdrew from the pact.
The deal had given Iran sanctions relief in return for Tehran not pursuing nuclear weapons, and the Biden administration pursued unofficial talks in the beginning of the administration to revive such a pact. Those talks ultimately died out.
A March Congressional Research Service report said Iran now has the capacity to build nuclear weapons at any time but has halted the process. The International Atomic Energy Agency has also warned that Iran continues to enrich uranium beyond commercial and practical use.
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With that kind of a threat why should the Israelis hold back from resorting to a version of "Linebacker" that includes "special munitions"?
Iran threatens change to nuclear ‘doctrine’ if Israel retaliates on nuclear sites
Iran warned Thursday that if Israel retaliates against Iranian nuclear sites, the nuclear “doctrine” in Tehran could change, in an apparent threat to begin nuclear weapons production in…
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DEFENSE
Iran threatens change to nuclear ‘doctrine’ if Israel retaliates on nuclear sites
BY BRAD DRESS - 04/18/24 2:41 PM ETIran warned Thursday that if Israel retaliates against Iranian nuclear sites, the nuclear “doctrine” in Tehran could change, in an apparent threat to begin nuclear weapons production in the event of escalation.
Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Brig. Gen. Ahmad Haghtalab, commander of the unit responsible for nuclear sites, issued the threat in a Thursday interview with state-run media Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) ahead of a potential Israeli counter-attack on Iran.
If Israel “intends to resort to the threat of attacking our nuclear facilities as a means to put pressure on Iran, reviewing the current doctrine and nuclear policies of the Islamic Republic and distancing from past considerations is possible and conceivable,” Haghtalab told IRNA.
The threat highlights how tensions are continuing to spiral in the aftermath of an Iranian attack on Israel last weekend.
Iran launched more than 300 missiles and drones on the country, and though Israeli and allied forces shot down almost all of them, Israel has reportedly decided to retaliate for the attempted strike.
Israeli officials have not signaled how, when or where they would strike back against Iran, and officially Israel has not announced any impending action.
Iran is vowing a much harsher response should Israel retaliate. Haghtalab said Thursday that nuclear sites were protected and forces were “ready to counter any threats.”
“To respond to their possible action, we have fingers on the trigger to launch powerful missiles to destroy the identified targets,” he told IRNA.
Iran does not officially possess nuclear weapons, though Tehran has been enriching uranium at levels closer to weapons production since a nuclear deal fell apart in 2018 after former President Trump withdrew from the pact.
The deal had given Iran sanctions relief in return for Tehran not pursuing nuclear weapons, and the Biden administration pursued unofficial talks in the beginning of the administration to revive such a pact. Those talks ultimately died out.
A March Congressional Research Service report said Iran now has the capacity to build nuclear weapons at any time but has halted the process. The International Atomic Energy Agency has also warned that Iran continues to enrich uranium beyond commercial and practical use.
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With that kind of a threat why should the Israelis hold back from resorting to a version of "Linebacker" that includes "special munitions"?
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5 is total calm, right?Listening to him live now. We are NOT at DEFCON 2 at this time.
Confirmed by phone callWe're at 3 for all intents and purposes. Officially.
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
Many confirmations that the strikes against Iran have started
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
1) Yep. 5 is cool.
2) REMEMBER that the phone verification IS in the PAST and there ain't ANY guarantees as to how long those things remain unchanged.
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Where is Charlie on the ladder? Third most alert?
Dohk-tareh Timsar
jward
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Omar Abu Layla
@OALD24
BREAKING.
CONFIRMED:
Israeli airstrikes on military sites in Sweida Governorate, southern Syria.
The target was the destruction of an early warning radar battalion.
Other raids targeted Al-Tha'lah Airport in Sweida and Azraa in Daraa Governorate.
#kotlet
7:54 PM · Apr 18, 2024
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BREAKING.
CONFIRMED:
Israeli airstrikes on military sites in Sweida Governorate, southern Syria.
The target was the destruction of an early warning radar battalion.
Other raids targeted Al-Tha'lah Airport in Sweida and Azraa in Daraa Governorate.
#kotlet
7:54 PM · Apr 18, 2024
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night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
In terms of FPCON.
ALPHA is normal
BRAVO is starting to need care
CHARLIE is potential issues warning
DELTA is gooks around the wire with cutters
ECHO is gooks in the wire AND camp.
ALPHA is normal
BRAVO is starting to need care
CHARLIE is potential issues warning
DELTA is gooks around the wire with cutters
ECHO is gooks in the wire AND camp.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Is anyone else's Telegram not working?
I am not seeing any updates for up to six hours ago from any of my sites--Amir Tsarfati, IDF, Clash Report and others.
I am not seeing any updates for up to six hours ago from any of my sites--Amir Tsarfati, IDF, Clash Report and others.
jward
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Explosions heard in Iran, Syria, Iraq - report
By TZVI JOFFRE
5–6 minutes
Syrian reports indicated airstrikes targeted sites belonging to the Syrian Army in the As-Suwayda and Daraa Governorates of southern Syria.
APRIL 19, 2024 03:52
Updated: APRIL 19, 2024 04:22
Explosions were heard in Isfahan in central Iran, in the As-Suwayda Governorate of southern Syria, and in the Baghdad area and Babil Governorate of Iraq early Friday morning, according to initial reports.
There was no official confirmation of the explosions in Iraq and Iran or of their cause as of early Friday morning.
Reports of strikes on sites belonging to Syrian army
Syrian reports indicated airstrikes targeted sites belonging to the Syrian Army in the As-Suwayda and Daraa Governorates of southern Syria.
مراسل السويداء 24: أصوات قوية لتحليق طيران حربي في الريف الجنوبي لمحافظة #السويداء جنوب #سوريا، سبقها بدقائق اصوات ثلاث انفجارات متتالية سمع دويها في مدينة السويداء والريف الغربي..يتبع.. pic.twitter.com/2bgRMFEpw7
— السويداء 24 (@suwayda24) April 19, 2024
Residents in Erbil and Mosul in Iraq reported hearing the sounds of fighter jets as well early Friday morning.
Objects are seen in the sky above Jerusalem after Iran launched drones and missiles towards Israel, in Jerusalem April 14, 2024. (credit: RONEN ZVULUN/REUTERS)
The explosions came as Israel promised to respond to a drone and missile attack conducted by Iran on Saturday night against Israel. The Iranian attack came in response to an alleged Israeli airstrike that targeted a building next to the Iranian embassy in Damascus in which Mohammad Reza Zahedi - a senior IRGC commander in charge of Iran's operations in Syria and Lebanon - was killed.
This is a developing story
www.jpost.com
By TZVI JOFFRE
5–6 minutes
Syrian reports indicated airstrikes targeted sites belonging to the Syrian Army in the As-Suwayda and Daraa Governorates of southern Syria.
APRIL 19, 2024 03:52
Updated: APRIL 19, 2024 04:22
Explosions were heard in Isfahan in central Iran, in the As-Suwayda Governorate of southern Syria, and in the Baghdad area and Babil Governorate of Iraq early Friday morning, according to initial reports.
There was no official confirmation of the explosions in Iraq and Iran or of their cause as of early Friday morning.
Reports of strikes on sites belonging to Syrian army
Syrian reports indicated airstrikes targeted sites belonging to the Syrian Army in the As-Suwayda and Daraa Governorates of southern Syria.
مراسل السويداء 24: أصوات قوية لتحليق طيران حربي في الريف الجنوبي لمحافظة #السويداء جنوب #سوريا، سبقها بدقائق اصوات ثلاث انفجارات متتالية سمع دويها في مدينة السويداء والريف الغربي..يتبع.. pic.twitter.com/2bgRMFEpw7
— السويداء 24 (@suwayda24) April 19, 2024
Residents in Erbil and Mosul in Iraq reported hearing the sounds of fighter jets as well early Friday morning.
Objects are seen in the sky above Jerusalem after Iran launched drones and missiles towards Israel, in Jerusalem April 14, 2024. (credit: RONEN ZVULUN/REUTERS)
The explosions came as Israel promised to respond to a drone and missile attack conducted by Iran on Saturday night against Israel. The Iranian attack came in response to an alleged Israeli airstrike that targeted a building next to the Iranian embassy in Damascus in which Mohammad Reza Zahedi - a senior IRGC commander in charge of Iran's operations in Syria and Lebanon - was killed.
This is a developing story
Explosions heard in Iran, Syria, Iraq - report
Syrian reports indicated airstrikes targeted sites belonging to the Syrian Army in the As-Suwayda and Daraa Governorates of southern Syria.
www.jpost.com
Great Northwet
Veteran Member
Watching realamericasvoice.com And they say something is up. Nothing more than that yet.
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I think it’s all encrypted.
jward
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isn't natanz just up the road? 
Evergreen Intel
@vcdgf555
No one is being routed near Isfahan.
View: https://twitter.com/vcdgf555/status/1781131860892070131
Evergreen Intel
@vcdgf555
No one is being routed near Isfahan.
View: https://twitter.com/vcdgf555/status/1781131860892070131
jward
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The Spectator Index
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BREAKING: Intense warplane activity across parts of Iraq
8:03 PM · Apr 18, 2024
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remember earlier today we saw them deliver sizable convoy:
Omar Abu Layla
@OALD24
A military convoy belonging to the US forces, coming from northern Iraq, has entered NES.
The convoy consists of 27 trucks carrying military equipment, logistical materials, and medical supplies.
These were distributed among several US bases in northeastern Syria.
#kotlet
12:39 PM · Apr 18, 2024
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BREAKING: Intense warplane activity across parts of Iraq
8:03 PM · Apr 18, 2024
138.1K
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remember earlier today we saw them deliver sizable convoy:
Omar Abu Layla
@OALD24
A military convoy belonging to the US forces, coming from northern Iraq, has entered NES.
The convoy consists of 27 trucks carrying military equipment, logistical materials, and medical supplies.
These were distributed among several US bases in northeastern Syria.
#kotlet
12:39 PM · Apr 18, 2024
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Question---would Israel limit communications coming OUT of Israel (such as Telegram accounts based in Israel) prior to commencing military action?
If so, the fact that NONE of the Israeli accounts I subscribed to have updated since 3 pm EDT at earliest or 5 pm EDT at latest---is a dot.
If so, the fact that NONE of the Israeli accounts I subscribed to have updated since 3 pm EDT at earliest or 5 pm EDT at latest---is a dot.