FOOD Questions about homemade pizza... as in I have no idea what I'm doing

Melodi

Melodi

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packyderms_wife said:
and don't forget you can put a white sauce on your pizza instead of a tomato based sauce. Friend was just in Italy, up on the border with Austria and Switzerland and was horrified to find out that the shops in that particular region didn't use a tomato based sauce.
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The tomato sauce is a relatively recent thing. It is debated if it was invented in Italy by a chef trying to make a dish in honor of some VIP (a king or a prince maybe), so with tomatoes and basil, it was green and red like the colors on the Italian flag. Or was invented by Italian-American immigrants (like corned beef and cabbage with the Irish immigrants)? I don't know if that has ever been solved. But I do know that when we were at a traditional restaurant in Naples, you could get pizza. Fired in an oven that looked like the one I'd spotted and identified at Pompeii a few hours before. But the pizza crust was extremely thin and crisp, and the sauce very sparse. Our hosts said this was normal in Italy.

Even outside of Italy, I had noticed that most pizza in Europe outside of Pizza Hut was almost always this crisp, thin crust. Even the pathetic attempts we had heated in England and Scandinavia. Things have improved over the years regarding decent pizza outside of Italy, but it still tends to be, as Nightwolf described, "A cracker with tomato sauce on it." At last, the Italians use real cultured or fermented dough, real sauces (including white sauce), real toppings, and old-fashioned, 2000-year-old style ovens when they can.

So native to Italy or Italian America, the Italians take pride in making edible versions today. The white sauce on a flat bread cooked on a stone hearth (with cheese and meats) probably goes back in some form to the Roman Empire anyway.
 
subnet

subnet

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raven said:
They even sell ready made "Keto" pizza crust. It is already round and rolled out.
And even cauliflower (sacrilege) keto pizza crust.
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I foget the brand name but we picked up a 2 pack after tasting it a Cosco...
Its mind blowing how good it is for being veg crust...though there is rice flour in it
 
WildDaisy

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Wiley said:
I'm going to have to experiment with the sauces to see what I really like but I like pepperoni, want to try using kielbasa sausage, maybe even hamburger meat. Toppings are mushrooms, black olives, green olives, green peppers, peppercinis, red or yellow peppers, and will experiment with various other toppings to see how they taste. Would love to use garlic butter on the crust, top off with parmesian when it comes out of the oven, whatever catches my eye at the time, etc. Cheeses will be another area of trail and error.

And I'm hungry again...
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Our family is NY Italians. All of our family, when they use jarred sauce, it is only Rao's, Lidia's, Victoria's or San Marzano. My immediate family only uses Rao's. It is pricey, but for a reason. It is closest to home made without the sugar and junk. Just usual ingredients - tomatoes, onions, peppers, salt, etc. None of those gobblygook words you can't pronounce.

Never, ever use Prego, Hunts, or Ragu. They are junk sauces loaded with sugars and not good things.

You can usually find frozen or ready made pizza dough in the frozen foods section, or dairy/cheese section of the store.
 
psychgirl

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bethshaya said:
Our family is NY Italians. All of our family, when they use jarred sauce, it is only Rao's, Lidia's, Victoria's or San Marzano. My immediate family only uses Rao's. It is pricey, but for a reason. It is closest to home made without the sugar and junk. Just usual ingredients - tomatoes, onions, peppers, salt, etc. None of those gobblygook words you can't pronounce.

Never, ever use Prego, Hunts, or Ragu. They are junk sauces loaded with sugars and not good things.

You can usually find frozen or ready made pizza dough in the frozen foods section, or dairy/cheese section of the store.
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I think those brands are too sweet
 
homecanner1

homecanner1

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Rao Vodka sauce is incredible for pasta, more tart than sweet. Even really bad carry out pizza is still edible, as most dorms with piles of empty boxes will attest on every campus. Proofing the dough in the fridge overnight/2 days ahead for a weekend will make a difference in taste when planned for a pizza night. Definitely going to try the small tablespoon honey in the dough as suggested on the thread and freezing in log shapes for better stacking, both great ideas thanks to all.
 
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raven

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subnet said:
I foget the brand name but we picked up a 2 pack after tasting it a Cosco...
Its mind blowing how good it is for being veg crust...though there is rice flour in it
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I haven't tried it yet. Both times I looked for it, the crust was broken in half in the wrapper.

BTW, that parchment paper idea for baking the pizza on - it works.
And for a great deep dish pizza-geddon pizza a 13.5 inch cast iron skillet works just fine.
 
psychgirl

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bethshaya said:
Not sure how. The only one that has sugar is Victorias. Rao's, Lidias and San Marzano do not contain sugar at all.

The others like Prego, Ragu and Hunts are loaded with sugar.
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Those …the ones you mentioned. That’s what I meant
I agree! Too much sugar!
 
energy_wave

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OK, This thread made me hungry. I was planing on making chicken Alfredo with broccoli and mushrooms this weekend but the power was out from the storm for 6 to 9 hours and screwed my plans. Anyways. when I don't want to take the time to make a proper pizza, I make English muffin pizzas with store bought ingredients. Here are photos of my dinner. English Muffins, Pizza sauce, oregano, cheese, pepperoni, green bell peppers, mushrooms, green and black olives and a little more cheese. Put in the oven at 400 for 10 to 15 minutes and grab a beer, they are ready to eat.

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Could have used a few more minutes in the oven until bubbly.

They were all good and no longer exist, if you know what I mean.

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Nich1

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There is also a crustless pizza for low carb eating...3 net carbs. I have had it and it is quite good. The site has lots of other low carb recipes, too, if you go back to the home page. Here's the crustless pizza recipe for anyone interested.

jenniferbanz.com

Crustless Pizza - 3 Net Carbs • Low Carb with Jennifer

My Crustless Pizza takes the pizza flavor you love with a keto spin! This easy, no crust pizza is perfect for busy work days or the ultimate meal prep!
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raven

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Probably the most important question with regard to making homemade pizza . . .
What is your secret for storing the stones, pie plate, pizza peel?
Because the hardest part of making pizza is finding that stuff and
then digging it out of the cranny where "the great and all powerful she" hid them.
(I think it is passive aggressive behavior . . . but I don't dare mention it because I hate doing laundry)
 
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Wiley

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raven said:
Probably the most important question with regard to making homemade pizza . . .
What is your secret for storing the stones, pie plate, pizza peel?
Because the hardest part of making pizza is finding that stuff and
then digging it out of the cranny where "the great and all powerful she" hid them.
(I think it is passive aggressive behavior . . . but I don't dare mention it because I hate doing laundry)
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That's where I'm fortunate, I live alone but a female friend does come over to help me clean and sort my house... moving from one house to another for the last couple of months... and I gave her a lot of my mother's plates, dishes and other items I had too many of here. Now I am able to dedicate an entire cabinet and time to my new pizza adventures and other experiments. And possibly her. Could use prayers on that developing situation, been a while since anyone has caught my eye.
 
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Leela

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Tried and true recipe for pizza dough over 30 years (mixed in a bread machine with a dough cycle).
8 oz water
3 cups flour
1 T dry milk
1 T honey
1 tsp salt
2 T olive oil
1 1/2 Tsp yeast

We have built-in cutting boards in our kitchen island not so fancy now after 35 years of use but we still use them on the counter. When the dough is done, flour up the board and flip the dough over and over, twist it around and roll it out with a rolling pin.

We have 2 really thick, square cooking stones, one for the trailer oven to spread the hot spots, and one for the pizza prep. At home we put it in the oven to heat up to 450, take it out and spread corn meal onto it and then put the rolled out dough on it. Peeking into the oven in about every few minutes to check on it, take it out, and then the toppings. Back into the oven at a lower temp. and then we just check in every 3 minutes or so.
 
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raven

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Wiley said:
That's where I'm fortunate, I live alone but a female friend does come over to help me clean and sort my house... moving from one house to another for the last couple of months... and I gave her a lot of my mother's plates, dishes and other items I had too many of here. Now I am able to dedicate an entire cabinet and time to my new pizza adventures and other experiments. And possibly her. Could use prayers on that developing situation, been a while since anyone has caught my eye.
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Well, I'll certainly pray fer ya.
And fer her too . . . especially if you are going to dedicate and entire cabinet to just her . . .
cause I can't see that one working out . . .
There's a song about that . . . let me give you some advice.
Kinky Freidman
About 2:41
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO8sD81NVTg

Hope that helps
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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You know Wiley, if you don’t know how yto make pizza, I have to question your overall intellectual prowess.


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sy32478

sy32478

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This is my favorite pizza sauce recipe. No cooking required and has only four ingredients.

Tomato puree
Garlic
Olive oil
Salt

This is simple, tasty, and is not full of other flavors which would make it taste like spaghetti sauce.

Too many sauce's have their tomato flavor buried even before adding toppings.

www.bonappetit.com

Red Sauce for Pizza

Joe Beddia's stupid-easy pizza sauce is all about finding good canned tomatoes.
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connie

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I mix my dough in food processor. Saw that idea 20 years ago in Tightwad Gazette newsletter. Use recipe s similar to what has been mentioned. Let rise 10 minutes. I was surprised how easy it is.
 
Knighttemplar

Knighttemplar

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We do it assembly line. Get the pizza oven up to 1000 and add a few wood pellets. Build the pizzas, wife uses frozen dough and canned sauce. Then other toppings, into oven turning 1/4 turn every 15 sec and it's ready in about 1 minute
 
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