Prevent or cure the flu?

Dixielee

Veteran Member
Since we can't get the flu vaccine, and I work in an ER and am bound to be exposed to it many times...is there an alternative to preventative or treatment once you have symptoms? Even tho I work in traditional medicine, I am open to alternatives. Thanks.
 

cipher

Inactive
Boost your immune system by taking turmeric and cayenne pepper. You take in capsules, tinctures and used in cooking your food. The active ingredient in turmeric is curcumin (I think that's it). It is both bactericidal as well as anti-viral. Check it out. Also, be sure to get your sleep, and de-stress, as stress from dashing around the ER will wear on you.

It goes without saying, eat your veggies and take your multiple daily vitamins, too. :)

AS SOON as you have Flu symptoms, take the homeopathic remedy "occicillium". Keep some in your purse, or drawer or locker at the hospital, so you have it handy as needed. Take per the instructions. When I have begun having the runny nose, chills, sneezing and feeling crummy, the most I have needed was 2 or 3 doses. It kicks in in less than 24 hours for me. I always have it on hand here, and take it on trips, just to make sure that I don't catch something on the plane, and have a trip ruined. VERY effective!
 

Dixielee

Veteran Member
I tried to look up occicillium in google to see where I might get some and came up with nothing. Is there another name or spelling? Thanks
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Elderberry Extract has been tested rigorously in Israel and found to limit/cure influenza better than anything. The brand they tested was called Sambucol. I've used both generic Elderberry Extract and homemade (tincture the berries, then make a syrup with honey) and found it to work amazingly well on bad viral colds and "flu". Hubby got sick with what I'm sure was flu last winter, and was the only one of his co-workers to be out of work less than a week. He ran a high fever for one night, and was starting to feel better the next afternoon. Two of his co-workers ended up with pneumonia. I credit the elderberry for most of it.

summerthyme
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Isn't it amazing that most ailments can be cured or healed naturally with God's plants?

He made them for us to use. We just need to use them.

Pharm companies don't sell them cause they can't make big bucks on them. That is why they are pushing to take them away from us.

I have a herb book here at home that has at least 50 naturally growing plants and herbs and what they are used for.

We use next to no pharm drugs in this house. We found out by living and eating healthier and using herbals and naturals that we usually don't need them....

The diet of carrots and avoiding the blockers (another thread here) has made our dog's tumors disappear.
Praise the Lord....
 

BluDragonfly

Contributing Member
Quoting Arubi from a post last week on the main board... This looked like a really interesting idea... I ordered some of the Dolivaxil and plan on trying it. Last year I beat the flu using Black Elderberry and Ocillocoxinum, in addition to my winter immune boosting regime (Echinacea and Goldenseal on 3 weeks, off 1 week).

Excellent info, thanks to everyone.

Dolisos Dolivaxil

Dolivaxil is a homeopathic preparation of viruses predicted by the World Health Organisation to be those most likely to cause the flu this year. Dolivaxil is desined to safely and naturally prevent and reduce the development of flu symptoms such as fever, chills, body aches and pains, minor sore throat and congestion. Dolivaxil will reduse the number of colds, can treat post-influenza fatigue and does not interact with any other medications. Dolivaxil is suitable for anyone over the age of 2 and is particularly beneficial for seniors and those who are unable to have a flu vaccination.

Directions: Adults and children over 2 years. Dissolve one tube under the tongue per week for 4 weeks then wait for three weeks and dissolve one final tube under the tongue or as directed by a health professional.

Ingredients: ACTIVE INGREDIENTS: Influenzium (HPUS) 9C, INACTIVE INGREDIENTS: Sucrose, Lactose

Note: All natural, safe and effective

Caution: Keep out of reach of children. If pregnant or breast-feeding, ask a health professional before use. If symptoms persist for more than 3 days or worsen, consult a health professional. Persistent symptoms of fever, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea may be the sign of a more serious condition. This product is not designed as a replacement for a flu vaccination. If you have been diagnosed or believe you are at high risk for complications due to influenza, consult your health professional for appropriate treatment.

Content: 5 Single Dose Tubes


Price: $10.99

http://mediclan.com/det/1057.htm

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Flu remedy, Influenzinum, homeopathic medicine formulated to treat exposure to influenza viruses 2004-2005 season. Place your order now and we will ship to you as soon as the remedy is available mid Oct. Dolisos is the only homeopathic company that updates Influenzinum each year based on the flu strains by the World Health Organization. Stimulates the body's own defense system to resist the onset of the season's flu strains. Shown year after year to be highly effective to treat flu symptoms, treat lingering flu symptoms and better yet to prevent the flu. Safe and natural, this helps your immune system, not depress it as other methods to prevent the flu. Use for all family members over 2. Avoid the dangers of the flu shot. Unlike vaccine, there are no contradictions to prevent safe use of Influenzinum. This remedy is very effective to prevent the flu; for treating flu symptoms; and for treating lingering symptoms if you have never fully recovered from flu. Avoid sore throat, flu, chills and fever. Our customers have found this remedy effective at preventing and stopping flu symptoms after exposure to others with the flu. Protect your bloodstream from harmful vaccines and use safe homeopathy.
The 2004-2005 flu strains as determined by the World Health Organization for the northern hemisphere. These flu strains are prepared by manufacturing practices found in the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the U.S. as safe and effective nosode.
Research and studies have shown the effectiveness of Influenzinum, with 97% of the cases experiencing no side effects, 3% experienced nasal discharge with taking the remedy in the prevention protocol. 98% of the subjects were interested in repeating the prevention protocol the following year. Also see Thymulin for additional immune support.
Contains 75 pellets. General dosage: 3 pellets a week as a preventative. 3 pellets 3 times a day for treating flu symptoms.
http://www.elixirs.com/products.cfm?productcode=S94B
 

ARUBI

Inactive
"Good backup" for flu shot available in one-time vaccine

By Lauran Neergaard
The Associated Press



WASHINGTON — The flu-shot shortage makes it more important for elderly people to get a second, often overlooked vaccine that protects against a type of bacteria that can cause pneumonia, a common complication of influenza.

The pneumococcal vaccine is a one-time shot for anyone 65 or older. Younger people with heart and lung diseases, diabetes or weak immune systems need it, too. It's not a replacement for a flu shot, but many of the same people most vulnerable to flu also are at high risk from this dangerous bacterial infection.

"It's a good backup to prevent the complications of influenza," said Dr. Gregory Poland of the Mayo Clinic, who advises the government on pneumococcal vaccine.

The pneumococcal vaccine protects against more than pneumonia. It also prevents deadly blood infections and meningitis, caused by a bacterium called pneumococcus.

Federal data show that each year, 175,000 Americans are hospitalized with pneumococcal pneumonia. In addition, the germ causes more than 50,000 blood infections and up to 6,000 cases of meningitis. Almost 6,000 people die.

A childhood vaccine, called Prevnar, has proved very effective at battling seven pneumococcal strains common in babies and toddlers. But millions of adults are at risk from additional strains of the germ and thus need the adult version of the vaccine, called Pneumovax.

The government hopes to have 90 percent of the elderly vaccinated against pneumococcal disease by 2010, but just 63 percent are now. There is no shortage of Pneumovax, and Medicare pays for the shot.

For younger patients, the cost ranges from $30 to $50.
 

Vere My Sone

Inactive
also, remember that sucrose inhibits your immune system

IIRC, eating or drinking sugar (sucrose) will stop your immune system from functioning for 4 hours

learned that from church, so I don't have a link
 

ARUBI

Inactive
I had to check into this because a co-worker was starting to come down with a bad cold Monday. Already had all the symtoms to be completely miserable. Sneezing, stuffy runny nose, slight fever, cough, etc. She Used this Tuesday and Wed. in tea and Thursday had recovered from all!
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Coltsfoot
Botanical: Tussilago Farfara (LINN.)
Family: N.O. Compositae
Description
Parts Used
Constituents
Medicinal Action and Uses
---Synonyms---Coughwort. Hallfoot. Horsehoof. Ass's Foot. Foalswort. Fieldhove. Bullsfoot. Donnhove. (French) Pas d'âne
---Parts Used---Leaves, flowers, root.
---Habitat---Coltsfoot grows abundantly throughout England, especially along the sides of railway banks and in waste places, on poor stiff soils, growing as well in wet ground as in dry situations. It has long-stalked, hoof-shaped leaves, about 4 inches across, with angular teeth on the margins. Both surfaces are covered, when young, with loose, white, felted woolly hairs, but those on the upper surface fall off as the leaf expands. This felty covering easily rubs off and before the introduction of matches, wrapped in a rag dipped in a solution of saltpetre and dried in the sun, used to be considered an excellent tinder.


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---Description---The specific name of the plant is derived from Farfarus, an ancient name of the White Poplar, the leaves of which present some resemblance in form and colour to those of this plant. There is a closer resemblance, however, to the leaves of the Butterbur, which must not be collected in error; they may be distinguished by their more rounded outline, larger size and less sinuate margin.
After the leaves have died down, the shoot rests and produces in the following February a flowering stem, consisting of a single peduncle with numerous reddish bracts and whitish hairs and a terminal, composite yellow flower, whilst other shoots develop leaves, which appear only much later, after the flower stems in their turn have died down. These two parts of the plant, both of which are used medicinally, are, therefore, collected separately and usually sold separately.

The root is spreading, small and white, and has also been used medicinally.

An old name for Coltsfoot was Filius ante patrem (the son before the father), because the star-like, golden flowers appear and wither before the broad, sea-green leaves are produced.

The seeds are crowned with a tuft of silky hairs, the pappus, which are often used by goldfinches to line their nests, and it has been stated were in former days frequently employed by the Highlanders for stuffing mattresses and pillows.

The underground stems preserve their vitality for a long period when buried deeply, so that in places where the plant has not been observed before, it will often spring up in profusion after the ground has been disturbed. In gardens and pastures it is a troublesome weed, very difficult to extirpate.

---Parts Used---The leaves, collected in June and early part of July, and, to a slighter extent, the flower-stalks collected in February.

---Constituents---All parts of the plant abound in mucilage, and contain a little tannin and a trace of a bitter amorphous glucoside. The flowers contain also a phytosterol and a dihydride alcohol, Faradial.

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---Medicinal Action and Uses---Demulcent, expectorant and tonic. One of the most popular of cough remedies. It is generally given together with other herbs possessing pectoral qualities, such as Horehound, Marshmallow, Ground Ivy, etc.

The botanical name, Tussilago, signifies 'cough dispeller,' and Coltsfoot has justly been termed 'nature's best herb for the lungs and her most eminent thoracic.' The smoking of the leaves for a cough has the recommendation of Dioscorides, Galen, Pliny, Boyle, and other great authorities, both ancient and modern, Linnaeus stating that the Swedes of his time smoked it for that purpose. Pliny recommended the use of both roots and leaves. The leaves are the basis of the British Herb Tobacco, in which Coltsfoot predominates, the other ingredients being Buckbean, Eyebright, Betony, Rosemary, Thyme, Lavender, and Chamomile flowers. This relieves asthma and also the difficult breathing of old bronchitis. Those suffering from asthma, catarrh and other lung troubles derive much benefit from smoking this Herbal Tobacco, the use of which does not entail any of the injurious effects of ordinary tobacco.

A decoction is made of 1 OZ. of leaves, in 1 quart of water boiled down to a pint, sweetened with honey or liquorice, and taken in teacupful doses frequently. This is good for both colds and asthma.

Coltsfoot tea is also made for the same purpose, and Coltsfoot Rock has long been a domestic remedy for coughs.

A decoction made so strong as to be sweet and glutinous has proved of great service in scrofulous cases, and, with Wormwood, has been found efficacious in calculus complaints.

The flower-stalks contain constituents similar to those of the leaves, and are directed by the British Pharmacopceia to be employed in the preparation of Syrup of Coltsfoot, which is much recommended for use in chronic bronchitis.

In Paris, the Coltsfoot flowers used to be painted as a sign on the doorpost of an apothecarie's shop.

Culpepper says:
'The fresh leaves, or juice, or syrup thereof, is good for a bad dry cough, or wheezing and shortness of breath. The dry leaves are best for those who have their rheums and distillations upon their lungs causing a cough: for which also the dried leaves taken as tobacco, or the root is very good. The distilled water hereof simply or with elder-flowers or nightshade is a singularly good remedy against all agues, to drink 2 OZ. at a time and apply cloths wet therein to the head and stomach, which also does much good being applied to any hot swellings or inflammations. It helpeth St. Anthony's fire (erysypelas) and burnings, and is singular good to take away wheals.'
One of the local names for Coltsfoot, viz. Donnhove, seems to have been derived from Donn, an old word for horse, hence Donkey (a little horse). Donnhove became corrupted to Tun-hoof as did Hay-hove (a name for Ground Ivy) to ale-hoof.
The plant is so dissimilar in appearance at different periods that both Gerard and Parkinson give two illustrations: one entitled 'Tussilago florens, Coltsfoot in floure,' and the other, 'Tussilaginous folia, the leaves of Coltsfoot,' or 'Tussilago herba sine flore.'

'Coltsfoot hath many white and long creeping roots, from which rise up naked stalkes about a spanne long, bearing at the top yellow floures; when the stalke and seede is perished there appeare springing out of the earth many broad leaves, green above, and next the ground of a white, hoarie, or grayish colour. Seldom, or never, shall you find leaves and floures at once, but the floures are past before the leaves come out of the ground, as may appear by the first picture, which setteth forth the naked stalkes and floures, and by the second, which porttraiteth the leaves only.'

Pliny and many of the older botanists thought that the Coltsfoot was without leaves, an error that is scarcely excusable, for, notwithstanding the fact that the flowers appear in a general way before the leaves, small leaves often begin to make their appearance before the flowering season is over.

Pliny recommends the dried leaves and roots of Coltsfoot to be burnt, and the smoke drawn into the mouth through a reed and swallowed, as a remedy for an obstinate cough, the patient sipping a little wine between each inhalation. To derive the full benefit from it, it had to be burnt on cypress charcoal.

http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/c/coltsf88.html
 

goatlady2

Deceased
Mrs. Grieve put out a very good herbal for her time - pretty accurate info but really old stuff like maybe late 1800s early 1900s I think, not sure , but I know her stuff was written long ago. Nothing wrong with old stuff just there may be new uses for the same herbs now days with validation as to how/why it works.
 
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