Powdered butter, eggs, milk, margarine, etc.

tangent

Membership Revoked
What are good sources for these?

Mountain Brook Foods has them:

http://www.mountainbrookfoods.com/home.htm

and reports a 5 year shelf life for dairy and 20 year for everything else in #10 cans.

They also have TVP, mixes, flake/powdered vegies and cheese powder.

Also kind of wondering what peoples experiences are with these and alternate packing methods. I have not seen a source for bulk TVP in years, but packing like grains and beens in 5 gal pails seems to work well. I'm wondering if this would work for powdered milk - eithor that of vaccume packing w/ a food sealer for eithor.

I think cheese kept in it's original wax, lasts a long time - not sure how long though. mixes tend to degrade in time - well, because they are mixes. wonder if vaccume packing, O2 absorbers and dessicants would help here...

anyone?

I think JC Refuge said he had powdered butter or eggs... cost? any chance of doing a group buy on this sort of stuff? I know Mountain Brook Foods has 3 distributors, and may be looking for another...

anyway, who has good prices on this stuff and where are they located? Shipping becomes an issue as these are 2-4 ponds per can...

thanks,

-t

ps: any sources for bulk and experiences storing yeast or beef bullion?
 

BV141

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Here is an alternate source for the requested items.

http://beprepared.com (Emergency Essentials out of Utah)

Some of the items for sale are backlogged though.....JC might be a whole lot quicker.

bv
 

Birdie

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dehyd. foods. i am sr. citizen and have been wanting a small amount of eggs, g. peppers celery etc but doesnt seem likely with costs for one. wish i could just go local for some of this stuff. does anyone know where in Kansas City Mo. this stuff could be bought? birdie
 

Nuthatch

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Birdie-- you might try ordering small amounts of dried eggs (whole or whites) from www.kingarthurflour.com

I have used them many times and they sell the eggs online and in their catalog. I placed the packages they came in inside another container and placed them in the fridge to keep them cool and dry. Works for me.
 

Nuthatch

Membership Revoked
Though JC Refuge has great deals on large bulk purchases, don't neglect considering that Mountain House itself sells smaller quantities and shipping is free over $50 on their website. Now the price per unit is nothing like offered in the group buys here, but if you have less $ to work with, you might wish to try it. Amazingly, my local WalMart is now carrying some single pack meals from Mountain House.

Also, check into your local camping store for product packed in smaller servings. There are many brands available now. WWW.campmor.com and www.backpackerspantry.com have single items and meals packed for 2-4 people.
 

tangent

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The internet grocer link is great!

Thanks Dennis!

OK - so far so good on sources, but what about packaging and shelf life?

-t
 

tangent

Membership Revoked
any idea on the actual shelf life of the canned butter? All the page says is:

4/. The normal shelf life we allow is 18 months, however all that happens, as the product ages, is that it becomes stronger in flavour.

http://www.internet-grocer.net/butter.htm

that's pretty open ended...

thanks,

-t
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
I was told 7 years on butter and margerine.......we got ours from Walton foods.....I don't have the link anymore as we bought our stuff a couple years ago..
You can google it. They have a huge amount of stuff but the shipping might be a bit more. All shipping is high these days so anyplace that you can save on shipping is a plus.......
I plan on stocking up on flours and that sort of thing thru our local health food store. I know it is nice and fresh and non gmo.......and if I want it vacumn packed I can order it from their supplier. They are mormons.......heh.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
From what I understand, JC only has powdered egg mixes. I didnt want mixes, I want just the powdered whole egg so I just recently ordered powered egg and cheese from beprepared dot com-they said 2-3 weeks. guess everyone else is getting some, too.
 

gillmanNSF

Veteran Member
I got my six cans of butter and cheese from internet grocer last week and cans of freezedried whole eggs and milk from MB the previous week. Haven't tried any of it, though. I'll have to look into free shipping at MB, might order some more stuff from them. IG also has canned meats which I might be interested in, like pork, turkey and ground beef, but their shipping is expensive.
 

ferret

Inactive
Sparky said:
Try www.healthyharvest.com

I've had great luck on deydrated foods with these people.

Ditto here. Great service and good prices. If you live in the SW Washington, Northwest Oregon area, you can pick up the stuff in person and save on shipping costs. I phoned in an order on a Thursday afternoon and was able to pick it up at noon the next day. Too bad they no longer have the retail store.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Just put in a massive order to Walton Feed, the closest supplier I could find to WA state to reduce the freight charges.

THEY SAID I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT 3 WEEKS FOR THE DEHYDRATED EGGS TO SHIP BECAUSE THEY WERE SWAMPED WITH ORDERS FOR THEM.
 

Ray

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ainitfunny said:
Just put in a massive order to Walton Feed, the closest supplier I could find to WA state to reduce the freight charges.

THEY SAID I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT 3 WEEKS FOR THE DEHYDRATED EGGS TO SHIP BECAUSE THEY WERE SWAMPED WITH ORDERS FOR THEM.

Try:

http://www.store.honeyvillegrain.com/

I order a case about 10 days ago and it arrived 5 days later ($4.99 delivery charge)..............Ray
 

BREWER

Veteran Member
BREWER

Hey, Ray: I just placed an order with Honeyville. You can't beat that $4.49 shipping with a stick. http://www.waltonfeed.com for Rainy Day Foods.
Tangent. Good luck. I have gotten an order from http://www.internet-grocer.com thanks to gillmanNSF pointing me in the right direction. They have a sampler case that you put in a sample of the butter and cheese along with the meats. Talk with Allison she's very helpful. :chg:
 

CeeBee

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I've got a question, I should put it on JC's thread about the big Mountain Foods buy but I think it could get lost there. These "food deals" often involve extra large size cans containing things like powered milk or eggs. What happens after you open the can to take out the first few servings? It's no longer going to be preserved, canning-wise. Seems to me that only a lot of little cans would be really useful for prepping.
 

Mushroom

Opinionated Granny
CeeBee said:
I've got a question, I should put it on JC's thread about the big Mountain Foods buy but I think it could get lost there. These "food deals" often involve extra large size cans containing things like powered milk or eggs. What happens after you open the can to take out the first few servings? It's no longer going to be preserved, canning-wise. Seems to me that only a lot of little cans would be really useful for prepping.


Once opened, the cans will stay good for about a year. Just because a can is open doesn't mean it will go bad in a very short time. It is the oxidation of the vitamins and proteins and fats that causes them to deteriorate. Keep them dry and cool and they will be just as good a year after opening as when you opened them. I usually keep a can of dehydrated foods open at all times. I use the carrots, celery, mushrooms, leeks, and onions regularly, and they keep just fine at kitchen temperatures. They are just no longer good for long term storage. Plan on using things that are open within a reasonable time and you should have no problems at all.

Mushroom
 

ofuzzy1

Just Visiting
Yup, what Mushroom said.
Corn meal is the only thing we have to cool [we freeze - solely for space reasons] it just goes rancid in a matter of weeks in s.fla .

CeeBee: The MtnH items are very nice, but you'll want some thing's to 'fill in' and round out the mix. HoneyVll has a nice assortment of dried fruits, I opened a can of strawberries and everyone thought they were candy! And without sulphates!
 

Angel Lady

Deceased
I have been keeping up with this thread and just want to say thankyou all for some great links. I wish I could do the big mountain house buy with JC but because of lack of $'s can't at this time. But, I will use some of these links to order a little at a time.
 

ferret

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ainitfunny said:
Just put in a massive order to Walton Feed, the closest supplier I could find to WA state to reduce the freight charges.

AIF, Sparky and I posted that there is a supplier in Vancouver (Washington) who has stuff in stock and at great prices! Jan is great to deal with. It's called the Country Store and can be found online at www.healthyharvest.com.
 

tangent

Membership Revoked
any idea what it is in corn meal that makes it go bad? - or maybe more to the point, what in the environment? - air, moisture, heat? (it's got to be one of those 3, as they sell cans of it with long shelf lives...)

seems like regular store bought tended to last at least 2-3 months too... granted, dry climate...

has anyone had success storing this without refrigerating it? if so how?

thanks,

-t
 
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