CORONA Personal experience of local worker and getting Covid after the vax (not from it)

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tm1439m

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Had a person who works with the public on a daily basis come by today. Some times he sees people in his office and some times at their homes or businesses. He had the Covid Vaccine and regrets it.

He said he was sick a while back and thought he was just having a cold. After a few weeks of a persistent "cold" he decided he better go get checked for Covid. Guess what he tested positive.

So if what they say is true and you have very mild symptoms after getting the vaccine then you could end up going around like him unknowingly potentially spreading Covid to everyone you encounter.

If he went to see or had visits from 5 people a day for two weeks not counting all the other places he went during this time like eating out and such how many people could he potentially have infected? Five a day alone for two weeks is 50 people and then of course all of them could then spread the virus. If they have the vax then they to could walk around spreading the virus before finally realizing there was a problem.

Now again if what they say is true and you will have much milder symptoms after getting the Covid vax then don't you think in this case he would have been far less likely to spread Covid if he had been not vaccinated? He would have gotten sicker much quicker and stayed away from people.

So hows that Vax working for you CDC?
 
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WildDaisy

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
WalknTrot said:
Especially while this bug is going around, responsible people should stay the heck home if they are feeling off. Use your head.
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Yeah, it isnt really rocket science. If you feel sick, regardless of what you think the cause is, stay home out of caution. I'm sure employers will tell you to get tested so that they can make arrangements for quarantine/cleaning at the location of employment, but other than that, at least you save coworkers and friends. Now you cant really help it if you are one of the ones lucky enough to have no symptoms, but if you do, stay home.
 
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mecoastie

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Most of the folks that I ask who are vaxxed say they wouldnt think to get tested for the VID if they had a "cold". They were vaxxed so it cant be the VID. My neighbors were one of the first that I had heard who got it after they were vaxxed. Their college son came home with a bit of a head cold. He was vaxxed J&J. Then both his parents got a cold. They were vaxxed with Moderna and Pfizer. Only reason they knew it was CIVD was because the wife works in health care and had to get tested if they show any signs or symptoms.
 
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rondaben

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Dennis Olson said:
The entire family of Corona viruses are cold/flu. Unless you can prove otherwise with a study, my position is that they all spread the same way.
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Influenza and coronaviruses are in different families. The coronavirus family includes the 4 that cause the common cold, SARS, MERS, and SARS2 (covid) they do have similar means of transmission-direct via aerosols and indirect via contaminated surfaces. Here's an early study on that:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

COVID-19 and its Modes of Transmission

The World Health Organization recognized SARS-CoV-2 as a public health concern and declared it as a pandemic on March 11, 2020. Over 12 million people have been affected across several countries since it was first recognized. SARS-CoV-2 is thought to ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Influenza being also a respiratory virus is spread similarly. The spread tends to be more in droplets an in contaminated surfaces though there can be some aerosol production with sneezing and coughing. As most of the spread is via larger droplets the don't travel as far (that's where the 6 ft recommendation came from for covid as well) and masking is highly effective in stopping transmission. Lots of studies available on influenza transmission but here is one:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Routes of influenza transmission

Remarkably little is known definitively about the modes of influenza transmission. Thus, important health policy and infection control issues remain unresolved. These shortcomings have been exposed in national and international pandemic preparedness activities ...
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Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
this would have been best handled by simply allowing it to run its course thru global pop - culling those it was going to cull - just as the seasonal flu does EVERY DAMN YEAR. would we would have have lost people - YES BUT - we are losing them AS IT IS and possibly in far greater numbers. those who developed significant disease could have been managed by currently existing well know and widely available therapies. those who developed severe disease could have been managed by supplementing those interventions with the additional protocols currently in use.

that those therapies not only exist but are widely known to be safe and efficacious are WELL KNOWN by anyone who doesn't have their head so far up their ass that they're looking out at the world thru their own mouth. just why that DIDN'T happen is ALSO well known -

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there are MULTITUDES of medical professionals who know this and who disagree with the current situation. the dissenting voices are being squelched.
 
wlf0wtr

wlf0wtr

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That's interesting. Who knows - maybe Delta isn't more contagious. Could it actually be the fact that now that so many people are vaccinated and think they're safe they are spreading it all over without realizing they're infected? Could that account for why this variant appears so much more contagious?
 
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
tm1439m said:
So if what they say is true and you have very mild symptoms after getting the vaccine then you could end up going around like him unknowingly potentially spreading Covid to everyone you encounter.
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this unfortunate happenstance could have been avoided by simply double or triple masking. just ask our national use of function expert Phonie Falsie, md and chief of eugenics Bill Gates about it . . . they know all about that stuff.
 
Mprepared

Mprepared

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tm1439m said:
Had a person who works with the public on a daily basis come by today. Some times he sees people in his office and some times at their homes or businesses. He had the Covid Vaccine and regrets it.

He said he was sick a while back and thought he was just having a cold. After a few weeks of a persistent "cold" he decided he better go get checked for Covid. Guess what he tested positive.

So if what they say is true and you have very mild symptoms after getting the vaccine then you could end up going around like him unknowingly potentially spreading Covid to everyone you encounter.

If he went to see or had visits from 5 people a day for two weeks not counting all the other places he went during this time like eating out and such how many people could he potentially have infected? Five a day alone for two weeks is 50 people and then of course all of them could then spread the virus. If they have the vax then they to could walk around spreading the virus before finally realizing there was a problem.

Now again if what they say is true and you will have much milder symptoms after getting the Covid vax then don't you think in this case he would have been far less likely to spread Covid if he had been not vaccinated? He would have gotten sicker much quicker and stayed away from people.

So hows that Vax working for you CDC?
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Lindsey Graham was walking around thinking sinus.
 
Mprepared

Mprepared

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wlf0wtr said:
That's interesting. Who knows - maybe Delta isn't more contagious. Could it actually be the fact that now that so many people are vaccinated and think they're safe they are spreading it all over without realizing they're infected? Could that account for why this variant appears so much more contagious?
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Probably would have gone away if not for the vaccine. I think Chile, not sure what country said Lambda variant was caused by the vaccine.
 
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
how many others here have the PERSONAL EXPERIENCE of watching well intentioned family members get vaxxed and then personally observing as they spill the virus and spread the disease among other family members? a very large portion of whom were DOUBLE VAXXED - yet became sicker than the UN vaxxed?

COVID hits my family in central fl
CORONA - COVID hits my family in central fl

this past weekend I spoke to married friends I went to school with - she's a radiologist he's an orthopedist - BOTH have similar stories to share. this is NOT an isolated event. they are both retired now. each refusing to be stuck.

switching out a whole house generator Tuesday past - the electrician and his wife are both long known to us and good friends. she is a critical care nurse at Mission Hosp in Asheville. she WILL NOT get the stick and plans to force them to fire her at which point she will collect unemployment and eventually retire.

there are dissenting medical voices out there - and in numbers larger than you realize. their volume is being silenced. it may not be readily apparent to many, but when you see resistance from your front line providers realize that those practices are preponderantly run by the HOSPITAL and NOT the individual physician.

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pauldingbabe

pauldingbabe

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WalknTrot said:
Especially while this bug is going around, responsible people should stay the heck home if they are feeling off. Use your head.
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Thing is this advice should have always been practiced. If I am sick with a fever I'm keeping my ass at home. When my kids were in school same thing. I also didn't run my kids to the dr for every cough, sniffle, or vomiting.

What's sad is that corporations, working standards, 2 parents working, one parent household, etc will go to work, send kids to school sick. Sometimes they feel they don't have a choice. It still pisses me off.
 
Mprepared

Mprepared

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pauldingbabe said:
Thing is this advice should have always been practiced. If I am sick with a fever I'm keeping my ass at home. When my kids were in school same thing. I also didn't run my kids to the dr for every cough, sniffle, or vomiting.

What's sad is that corporations, working standards, 2 parents working, one parent household, etc will go to work, send kids to school sick. Sometimes they feel they don't have a choice. It still pisses me off.
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Somebody walked around and got my son-in-law sick. I cannot be mad at anybody. If it was at church, it was just as much my daughter and his fault for going there right when Delta came and they joined the choir. There is a fully vaccinated man in church and he has covid. I am not sure if it was him. My daughter's friend is pregnant she has 1 child and married to a man with 4 and all these kids go back and forth to the other parents and school starts the day after labor day. A disaster waiting to happen. My daughter knows a health care worker and she refuses to get vaccinated and will be quitting if forced. I saw a protest around here and it was NURSES SPEAKING OUT not vaccine hesitant or anti-vaxers people like to call them.
 
West

West

Senior
Millwright said:
The .guv and CDC have lost any pretense of legitimacy with a large percentage of citizens.

Medical types are forced to work within their guidelines, for the most part.

Agenda/profit driven medicine is not the most effective.
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Just needs to be reprinted.

:D
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
tm1439m said:
So if what they say is true and you have very mild symptoms after getting the vaccine then you could end up going around like him unknowingly potentially spreading Covid to everyone you encounter.
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This is the problem, the vaccinated have become the super spreaders and it's being blamed on the unvaxxed. A lot of us predicted that this would happen. Herd immunity my ass.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
West said:
But can the government-media cabal direct that hell to the unvaccinated?

Thinking that's how their going to spin it some how.
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They already are based upon what I heard on NPR around 5am this morning. This is all they do, screech that the unvaccinated are spreading the virus, when we're not.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
mecoastie said:
Most of the folks that I ask who are vaxxed say they wouldnt think to get tested for the VID if they had a "cold". They were vaxxed so it cant be the VID. My neighbors were one of the first that I had heard who got it after they were vaxxed. Their college son came home with a bit of a head cold. He was vaxxed J&J. Then both his parents got a cold. They were vaxxed with Moderna and Pfizer. Only reason they knew it was CIVD was because the wife works in health care and had to get tested if they show any signs or symptoms.
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In the meantime how many people did they spread it to?
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
wlf0wtr said:
That's interesting. Who knows - maybe Delta isn't more contagious. Could it actually be the fact that now that so many people are vaccinated and think they're safe they are spreading it all over without realizing they're infected? Could that account for why this variant appears so much more contagious?
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This is exactly what's been happening, MSM is blaming it on the unvaxxed.
 
West

West

Senior
Muse, it seems like...

They (socialist)blame capitalists for all their ills.

When in reality, capitalism and capitalist have brought more riches and much better lifestyles for more peoples in just a (1950s, 60s, 70s) decade than socialism ever has in all its history!
 
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