It was worth it to try for my husband, no negative other than the cost of the panel a what I considered a good chance of some help. I love red light therapy for a myriad of things. A friend had a surgery site that wouldn’t heal until she borrowed my red light panel.
HEALTH Peripheral neuropathy - question
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I’m very interested in what you use it for. PM me for further discussions. I‘ve Been studying it‘s use in conjunction with methylene blue. It did wonders clearing up an abscess tooth within two hours
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
here's an interesting "twist" on the subject of PN. . . about 5 years ago I began to notice that my sox felt all balled up in my shoes . . . but they weren't. these abnormal sensations ("paresthesias") persisted and worsened. after a few hours on my feet I was very uncomfortable. I tried several different types of shoes - wider and longer; tried insoles and inserts of all types. NO HELP at all. got to the point that I was loosing the ability to locate my feet in space - altered proprioception - a dangerous situation becasue that can lead to falls. I discussed it with my internist. all my labs were perfect - it WASN'T a diabetic neuropathy. I wondered if I should see a neurologist becasue SOMETHING was really NOT right and it was steadily worsening.
about the same time I began to develope calouses on the heads of my 5'th metatarsals. went to see a podiatrist about the dang things becasue they were getting so bad. I mentioned the "neuropathy" to him and that it was NOT a diabetic neuropathy based on blood work. he took a look and told me I'd developed an equinus deformity related to very tight calf muscles and shortened achilles tendons (https://www.physio-pedia.com/Equinus_Deformity; Equinus Treatment | Foot Doctor Southlake, Keller, Flower Mound, North Richland Hills, Argyle and Denton, TX) . he explained that the altered/abnormal sensation I was feeling in my feet wasn't a true nerve related paresthesia but a type of myofascial referred pain and that it was associated with the thight muscles in my calves. he suggested that I begin to work at stretching my calf muscles and achilles tendons. one of my closest freinds here is a DPT - doctor of physical therapy. I talked with him about it and he suggested that I look into a "Flex and Go" board (HERE: A body in motion must stay in motion!).
I started using this and within about 3 months I'd improved the condition by 75%. I now spend 15 min E V E R Y morning stretching - the bulk of this is devoted to lower extremity and glutes. I spend 3 min DAILY on this flex and go. it took about 5 months to completely resolve that paresthesia and loss of propriception. I am now 100% recovered from what was a very disturbing and progressive condition that could have developed into a potentially dangerous situation . . . I'd begun to trip over my own feet.
all that to say simply this - if you are unsuccesful in ferreting out the exact cause of your paresthesias (abnormal sensation) consider the above as a possibility.
about the same time I began to develope calouses on the heads of my 5'th metatarsals. went to see a podiatrist about the dang things becasue they were getting so bad. I mentioned the "neuropathy" to him and that it was NOT a diabetic neuropathy based on blood work. he took a look and told me I'd developed an equinus deformity related to very tight calf muscles and shortened achilles tendons (https://www.physio-pedia.com/Equinus_Deformity; Equinus Treatment | Foot Doctor Southlake, Keller, Flower Mound, North Richland Hills, Argyle and Denton, TX) . he explained that the altered/abnormal sensation I was feeling in my feet wasn't a true nerve related paresthesia but a type of myofascial referred pain and that it was associated with the thight muscles in my calves. he suggested that I begin to work at stretching my calf muscles and achilles tendons. one of my closest freinds here is a DPT - doctor of physical therapy. I talked with him about it and he suggested that I look into a "Flex and Go" board (HERE: A body in motion must stay in motion!).
I started using this and within about 3 months I'd improved the condition by 75%. I now spend 15 min E V E R Y morning stretching - the bulk of this is devoted to lower extremity and glutes. I spend 3 min DAILY on this flex and go. it took about 5 months to completely resolve that paresthesia and loss of propriception. I am now 100% recovered from what was a very disturbing and progressive condition that could have developed into a potentially dangerous situation . . . I'd begun to trip over my own feet.
all that to say simply this - if you are unsuccesful in ferreting out the exact cause of your paresthesias (abnormal sensation) consider the above as a possibility.
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bev
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Hubby wore the new shoes for about 5 hours today, mostly inside. I told him to thoroughly inspect his feet afterwards for any hot spots, and there were none! He said they felt very comfortable, so they are keepers. (These are Sketchers.)
He knows to do that daily, and not just after wearing new shoes, but he will be getting some reminding from me now.
Thanks everyone!
He knows to do that daily, and not just after wearing new shoes, but he will be getting some reminding from me now.
Thanks everyone!
colonel holman
Veteran Member
THIS !! PN tends to be the go-to ASSUMPTION. Perhaps as many as 1/3 of those assumed o be PN is actually something else creating PN-like symptoms. A basic principle of physical therapy is to always address potential causes higher up the leg to the lower back, before assuming PN.
In PN-suspected cases, problem may be triggered by: bulging disc at L4-5-S1 low back, spinal stenosis, tight piriformis muscle (hip rotator cuff), tight hamstrings, tight calf, tarsal tunnel syndrome (same as carpal tunnel but at ankle). And most of these can be reversed with just a few simple stretches (once you know which ones and how best to do them). See a DPT that specializes in musculoskeletal issues
Same with hand-arm problems, where up to half of carpal tunnel symptoms are actually coming from a neck problem.
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
as a very young resident I was given an important bit of "wisdom" by an ancient orthopedist . . . it was something that never left me. he said this:
"you look for what you know and you see what you look for"
DON'T GET STUCK THERE
DON'T GET STUCK THERE
paul bunyan
Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
Thanks Colonel... Would you please recommend any red light therapy devices for PN, esp for the feet.
Thanks
colonel holman
Veteran Member
I still teach that
colonel holman
Veteran Member
Will give that info when i get home from road today, but generally look for 850nm wavelength
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
good to hear . . . so many patients seem to get stuck with providers who are convinced that only in THAT practice will there be found any improvement.
colonel holman
Veteran Member
Pride, ego, witchcraft everywhere
colonel holman
Veteran Member
My home unit. Combines infrared (806nm) with near-infrared (red light) diodes (660nm).
Johnny Twoguns
Senior Member
Benfotiamine: Oil soluble B1.
bev
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Would you mind elaborating?
Bev, Skechers are the only shoes i can wear.
Johnny Twoguns
Senior Member
Better absorbed. Lot's of YT's on it, including short ones like Dr. Berg.
Description
Benfotiamine is a synthetic, fat-soluble, S-acyl derivative of thiamine that is approved in some countries as a medication or dietary supplement to treat diabetic sensorimotor polyneuropathy. Benfotiamine was developed in late 1950s in Japan. WikipediaJohnny Twoguns
Senior Member
Here is one such; he has others, and many other people do. I take a high dose natural foods B vitamin complex once or twice a week and I also take Benfotamine which works pretty quick for me; and I have a friend, very diabetic, who now takes tons of it religiously; works for him.
YT Berg 10 minutes
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83sOzga-i0I
YT Berg 10 minutes
Johnny Twoguns
Senior Member
Here is another one, only 3.5 minutes. YT, Dr. Berg (he has more).
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szY9ijBUDUs
I’m going to look into a Revitive device. I have awful neuropathy.
Johnny Twoguns
Senior Member
I'd suggest a Prife IteraCare device. Looks like it takes more work but you can get the entire body.
I have gastroparesis. I have to be picky the form my supplements are in. I have started taking the liquid B vits in liquid form. My vagas nerve was damaged by the septic shock last year. Eating for the diabetis has not been fun to learn since the diet for one is counterintuitive of the other. Nutrition is key. But so is the physical form the nutrition is in.
ohiohippie
Veteran Member
Plesse/TY
bev
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thank you!
Kathy in WV
Down on the Farm...
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
You just described my horrible leg pain!!! I'll be looking further into this, as I do not have diabetes or diabetic neuropathy which many doctors are quick to diagnose. The losartan BP med was causing neuropathy symptoms, feet felt like they were on fire all of the time, one month later of taking lisinopril my feet are no longer on fire. However, my calf and achilles tendons are still very tight, are extremely sensitive to touch, and hurt/throb when I try to stand more than a few minutes.
A friend called me last week with horrible peripheral neuropathy and wanted to try my red light/near infrared panel. He has a lot of pain and balance issues. He’s been using it 10 minutes a day for a week. Today he was able to mow his lawn. He’s definitely in the 1/3 it works well for. The panel is a 660 red 850 NIR