Palin says Alaska supplies 20 percent of U.S. energy. Not true. Not even close.

FarmerJohn

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Energetically Wrong
September 12, 2008
Palin says Alaska supplies 20 percent of U.S. energy. Not true. Not even close.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/energetically_wrong.html

Summary
Palin claims Alaska "produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." That's not true.

Alaska did produce 14 percent of all the oil from U.S. wells last year, but that's a far cry from all the "energy" produced in the U.S.

Alaska's share of domestic energy production was 3.5 percent, according to the official figures kept by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

And if by "supply" Palin meant all the energy consumed in the U.S., and not just produced here, then Alaska's production accounted for only 2.4 percent.

Analysis
Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin sat down with ABC News' Charlie Gibson for an interview, part of which aired Sept. 11. In the exchange, the Alaska governor misstated a basic fact about her state's energy production:

Palin: Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas development in our state to produce more for the United States.

It's simply untrue that Alaska produces anything close to 20 percent of the U.S. "energy supply," a term that is generally defined as energy consumed. That category includes power produced in the U.S. by nuclear, coal, hydroelectric dams and other means – as well as all the oil imported into the country.

Palin would have been correct to say that Alaska produces just over 14 percent of all the oil produced in the U.S., leaving out imports and leaving out other forms of power. According to the federal government's Energy Information Administration, Alaskan wells produced 263.6 million barrels of oil in 2007, or 14.3 percent of the total U.S. production of 1.8 billion barrels.

But Alaskan production accounts for only 4.8 percent of all the crude oil and petroleum products supplied to the U.S. in 2007, counting both domestic production and imports from other nations. According to EIA, the total supply was just over 5.5 billion barrels in 2007.

Furthermore, Palin said "energy," not "oil," so she was actually much further off the mark. According to EIA, Alaska actually produced 2,417.1 trillion BTUs [British Thermal Units] of energy in 2005, the last year for which full state numbers are available. That's equal to just 3.5 percent of the country's domestic energy production.

And according to EIA analyst Paul Hess, that would calculate to only "2.4 percent of the 100,368.6 trillion BTUs the U.S. consumes."

Palin didn't make clear whether she was talking about Alaska's share of all the energy produced in the U.S. or all the energy consumed here. Either way, she was wrong.

McCain Gets It Wrong, Too

Sen. John McCain has also has used this inflated, incorrect figure. On Sept. 3, McCain told ABC News' Gibson:

McCain: Well, I think Americans are going to be very, very, very pleased. This is a very dynamic person. [Palin's] been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply.

McCain repeated the false figure more recently, in a September 11 interview with Portland, Maine, news station WCSH6.

Footnote: When we asked the McCain campaign where the 20 percent figure came from, we were referred to the Web site of the Resource Development Council for Alaska, Inc, a group that says it promotes development of Alaska's natural resources. It states:

Alaska Resource Development Council: Alaska's oil and gas industry has produced more than 16 billion barrels of oil and 6 billion cubic feet of natural gas, accounting for an average of 20 percent of the entire nation's domestic production.

This falls far short of supporting Palin's sweeping claim, however. It refers only to "oil and gas" production, not total energy. It refers only to production, not total consumption or supply. And the 20 percent figure is an "average" over many years, though the site does not say exactly how many. That makes it very much out of date, because Alaskan oil production has declined sharply in recent years. According to EIA figures Alaskan oil production has dropped 22 per cent in the most recent five years alone.

And in case you are wondering, Alaska produces even less of the nation's natural gas that it does of its oil. EIA figures show Alaska accounted for just 1.9 percent of total U.S. natural gas production during the six months ended in June 2008. And even that is dropping rapidly. The figure was 2.3 percent just two years earlier.
 

timbo

Deceased
Off with their heads! Caught them in the big lie!

Just kidding. Maybe just a slap on the hand because they used a source that was wrong.

Or maybe a good scolding because they both used the same source.

How about a really really bad frown?
 

Warandra

Membership Revoked
The problem is that people want to believe what those liars say, so they do. The thought is: Don't pick on the old man or the woman by actually insisting that they tell the Truth. Same thing happened when George W Bush lied and lied and lied, during his campaign, too. People bought the trash he had to sell. Well. if you want the country trashed, completely, vote for liars McCain and Palin. You won't have to worry about another elction. World War III will take care of that.
 

Navydad

Inactive
she was obviously talking about oil and gas...not total energy such as nuclear, coal, hydo-electric, etc.

You are digging deep to come up with dissing her. Oh, DIGGING. yeah lets drill, drill, drill.

:stfu:
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
The problem is that people want to believe what those liars say, so they do. The thought is: Don't pick on the old man or the woman by actually insisting that they tell the Truth. Same thing happened when George W Bush lied and lied and lied, during his campaign, too. People bought the trash he had to sell. Well. if you want the country trashed, completely, vote for liars McCain and Palin. You won't have to worry about another elction. World War III will take care of that.

I find the sniveling variety of hysteria such as is quoted above to be highly amusing. :lol:
 

CountryboyinGA

Inactive
The problem is that people want to believe what those liars say, so they do. The thought is: Don't pick on the old man or the woman by actually insisting that they tell the Truth. Same thing happened when George W Bush lied and lied and lied, during his campaign, too. People bought the trash he had to sell. Well. if you want the country trashed, completely, vote for liars McCain and Palin. You won't have to worry about another elction. World War III will take care of that.

Yeah and Obama will save us from it all...

CB
 
Gee

did I come across a list for you War and Ra, on this very forum, AND today! It was so neat I earmarked it. I won't feed it all to you now though, too many tidbits to waste with a glutton fest. I'll dole it out a bit at a time:


The problem is that people want to believe what those liars say, so they do. The thought is: Don't pick on the old man or the woman by actually insisting that they tell the Truth


35.) I don't Have Lobbysists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 (That's 15 Million) who don't have to buy it.

39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russan army did the liberating.
 

Wardogs

Deceased
she was obviously talking about oil and gas...not total energy such as nuclear, coal, hydo-electric, etc.

You are digging deep to come up with dissing her. Oh, DIGGING. yeah lets drill, drill, drill.

:stfu:

Exactly right dad.
Even using the OP's figures that comes to 15.9%.

Wow, off by 4%...

Let's crucify her...

Warandra, the last thing a Bambi supporter should bring up is lies...

His record doesn't stand up to scrutiny very well for truthfulness.

Know what I mean...
wardogs
 

Kalliope

Inactive
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

Rebuttal's

35. Senator Obama did not claim he doesn't "have lobbysists [sic]". He stated that he does not employ federally registered lobbyists, and that if he were elected President his administration would not include any such lobbists.

36. A widely circulated spoof of Apple Computers' famous 1984 television advertisement for their (then new) Macintosh computer was not created by an Obama campaign worker. It was, as explained in a statement issued by the managing director of Blue State Digital (a firm contracted to provide technology services to the Obama campaign), created without authorization by an employee of the company: [snipped way too long...]

37. Senator Obama expressed opposition to the war in Iraq well before he gained a seat in the US Senate in 2004. (The vote that authorized US military action in Iraq was held in 2002.)

[more answer at the link - you can't c&p from the site, I had type the rebuttals]

This is where the list stops, it was last updated in June.
 
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