INSANITY Old English classic Beowulf gets slapped with trigger warning (University Aberdeen)

Melodi

Disaster Cat
For one, I am glad Nightwolf, who did his own translations and novelization of this historical epic did not live to see this. This is another chapter of "The Crazy, it Hurts."...and this is at a UNIVERSITY in the United Kingdom!


Monstrous! Old English classic Beowulf gets slapped with trigger warning as university dons fear students may be distressed to read about monsters
Academics at Aberdeen University have slapped Beowulf with a trigger warning

They claim students may be distressed by the monsters in the Old English poem

The note warned about violence, coercion, animal cruelty, incest and suicide


In addition, the guidance note warned students that ‘there will also be monsters’
By ELEANOR HARDING EDUCATION EDITOR FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 22:54, 3 August 2022 | UPDATED: 23:06, 3 August 2022

It's a staple of English literature courses, an Old English epic poem so dramatic it has even spawned a computer-animated action fantasy film.

Yet academics have slapped a ‘trigger warning’ on Beowulf, cautioning students that they may read about ‘monsters’.

The University of Aberdeen believes that students reading Celtic and Anglo-Saxon Studies may be distressed by the saga.

The university has put more than 30 warnings on one module, entitled ‘Lost Gods and Hidden Monsters of the Celtic and Germanic Middle Ages’.


A note to students reads: ‘Texts studied on this course contain representations of violence, coercion, animal cruelty or animal death, incest, suicide, explicit sexual content... ableism.’

In addition, students were warned that ‘there will also be monsters’.


It is not the first time Aberdeen has attracted controversy for its use of trigger warnings.

Last year, The Mail on Sunday revealed the university cautioned students that Robert Louis Stevenson’s Kidnapped contained ‘depictions of murder, death, family betrayal and kidnapping’,

Beowulf, the tale of terrifying beasts and a fire-breathing dragon being killed by a hero, has been taught for generations as one of the greatest stories of all time.

The hero of Beowulf dispatches the monstrous figure of Grendel – who is described in Old English as ‘unhælu’, or ‘infirm’.

However, some scholars have argued this is offensive because it pitches the able-bodied against the disabled.

The hero of the 3,000-line poem also kills a ‘wyrm’ (a dragon/ serpent) at the end, alongside his dutiful servant Wiglaf.

The advice specifically mentions the violent content in Beowulf, stating: ‘Particularly graphic representations of violence... will be encountered in... Beowulf.’


A further note warns of ‘blasphemy, defecation, psychological violence, pain, alcohol abuse, symbols of evil, black magic’.

The university policy on content warnings, reported by the Daily Telegraph, explains the need for warnings: ‘The mental health and wellbeing of students is a primary concern of the school.’

Trigger warnings have been applied by universities to many literary classics, from the works of Shakespeare to George Orwell.

Aberdeen University said: ‘Our guidelines on content warnings were developed in collaboration with student representatives and we have never had any complaints about them – on the contrary, students have expressed their admiration for our approach.

‘Our content warnings reflect the fact that every student is different.’

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This too shall pass.
Beowulf is actually a dramatized true story about real people. I think that makes it even more interesting. As for the 'trigger warnings,' ptui. Like West said, they are putting trigger warnings on the Bible now. Should make people want to read it, rather than avoid it.

Kathleen
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Beowulf is actually a dramatized true story about real people. I think that makes it even more interesting. As for the 'trigger warnings,' ptui. Like West said, they are putting trigger warnings on the Bible now. Should make people want to read it, rather than avoid it.

Kathleen
Yep, when my husband was doing his novel and translations, he would look into the latest archeology and share it with me. Some of the ancient battles turn out to have very likely taken place and of course, people almost always add dragons and other mythical creatures to their narratives. Sometimes they may represent people or events who used them as a symbol or were referred to in that way.

In modern life, if we refer to The Dragon in the East or Putin's Bear, we know we mean either China or Russia - people did the same thousands of years ago. Sometimes the more fantastical elements were used to explain the unexplainable or to spice the storyline up a bit.

Like most ancient epics, I gather there are several versions of this one, which is why Nightwolf's book was turned into a novel rather than a straight translation.

Trigger warnings on this for UNIVERSITY students on a Celtic and Germanic studies track is insane, it is simply insanity pure and simple.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Yep, when my husband was doing his novel and translations, he would look into the latest archeology and share it with me. Some of the ancient battles turn out to have very likely taken place and of course, people almost always add dragons and other mythical creatures to their narratives. Sometimes they may represent people or events who used them as a symbol or were referred to in that way.

In modern life, if we refer to The Dragon in the East or Putin's Bear, we know we mean either China or Russia - people did the same thousands of years ago. Sometimes the more fantastical elements were used to explain the unexplainable or to spice the storyline up a bit.

Like most ancient epics, I gather there are several versions of this one, which is why Nightwolf's book was turned into a novel rather than a straight translation.

Trigger warnings on this for UNIVERSITY students on a Celtic and Germanic studies track is insane, it is simply insanity pure and simple.
I read one fairly credible theory that Beowulf's monster was describing a T-Rex.
I recall reading about a Roman legion that was delayed for several days in North Africa by a "dragon" that also sounded very much like a dinosaur.

As for the warnings on the classes, who reads those anyway?
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
For one, I am glad Nightwolf, who did his own translations and novelization of this historical epic did not live to see this. This is another chapter of "The Crazy, it Hurts."...and this is at a UNIVERSITY in the United Kingdom!


Monstrous! Old English classic Beowulf gets slapped with trigger warning as university dons fear students may be distressed to read about monsters
Academics at Aberdeen University have slapped Beowulf with a trigger warning

They claim students may be distressed by the monsters in the Old English poem

The note warned about violence, coercion, animal cruelty, incest and suicide


In addition, the guidance note warned students that ‘there will also be monsters’
By ELEANOR HARDING EDUCATION EDITOR FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 22:54, 3 August 2022 | UPDATED: 23:06, 3 August 2022

It's a staple of English literature courses, an Old English epic poem so dramatic it has even spawned a computer-animated action fantasy film.

Yet academics have slapped a ‘trigger warning’ on Beowulf, cautioning students that they may read about ‘monsters’.

The University of Aberdeen believes that students reading Celtic and Anglo-Saxon Studies may be distressed by the saga.

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Been forever since I read that or saw one of the sort-of-bad movies based on the original.

I think I’ll start with the poem then see what’s on NetFlix et al. …..
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
For anyone interested...

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Melodi

Disaster Cat
Hahaha-HA.

Who's next? Tolkien?
Probably, that's been expected for several years now though thankfully it hasn't happened yet. Tolkien was an amazing writer but like most humans, he brought with him some of the thoughts, ideas, and world-views of his time and place. He was basically a WW1-era man who became an elderly Oxford Academic. He had amazing views on the nature of men's friendships, duty, honor, and language. He also wasn't really comfortable with women in real life or literature and he changed the original ending to have the hero marry an elven woman because he just couldn't imagine a human woman being "worthy" of him. Nightwolf loved Tolkien but was aware of his issues, and even said that one improvement in the movies (and he mostly hated movies) was that it expanded the role of the ladies in ways that really worked. Some of it was done by using stories actually in some of Tolkien's other works - like the Samerilion and others by just featuring them a bit more than the books do with scenes of them participating and doing things.

One of the horrible things about the whole "woke-throw out the old books" thing is that it tries to make people judge the people of the past by the customs and morals of the present. People and cultures change, what is acceptable changes and sometimes those changes are good and sometimes they are not so good; but it doesn't make everything done in the past "bad" either.

That's a very dangerous road, especially for so-called Universities to be walking down. There really is nothing new under the sun, and they need to look at other periods of history that tried this - The French Revolution comes to mind, as does Pol Pot.
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I wonder why the generation enamored of The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones and American Gods are considered to too cognitively/emotionally able to read the classics without being "warned" of the content.
 

Yogizorch

Has No Life - Lives on TB
...monsters? Are a trigger now?

Oh PUH-LEEZE. Anybody who's seen a horror movie released after about 1980 is well-versed in monsterdom. Some of the stuff that's come out makes Beowulf look like a Sunday school picnic by comparison.
Don't forget the video games. I remember an early, probably 8 bit Grindl, and can only imagine what are in some of the modern games.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Don't forget the video games. I remember an early, probably 8 bit Grindl, and can only imagine what are in some of the modern games.

Your point is well-taken.

I'm afraid I can't give you Grendel, but perhaps the next best thing. Jormungandr, the World Serpent, from "God of War."

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223shootersc

Veteran Member
Some people just need a good smack up side the head or should have got q spanking form their Dad and Mom each time they did something stupid!! Maybe they wouldn't still be doing stupid stuff as adults. Like messing with great literature.
 

oops

Veteran Member
Sigh...can we put trigger warnings on them n their bs?...sigh...2 days with no net n no phone...n n hr on line n my pipeliner vocab has returned n spades...not a good thing...grumble
 

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This too shall pass.
Yep, when my husband was doing his novel and translations, he would look into the latest archeology and share it with me. Some of the ancient battles turn out to have very likely taken place and of course, people almost always add dragons and other mythical creatures to their narratives. Sometimes they may represent people or events who used them as a symbol or were referred to in that way.

In modern life, if we refer to The Dragon in the East or Putin's Bear, we know we mean either China or Russia - people did the same thousands of years ago. Sometimes the more fantastical elements were used to explain the unexplainable or to spice the storyline up a bit.

Like most ancient epics, I gather there are several versions of this one, which is why Nightwolf's book was turned into a novel rather than a straight translation.

Trigger warnings on this for UNIVERSITY students on a Celtic and Germanic studies track is insane, it is simply insanity pure and simple.

Actually, dragons were real, too. They didn't necessarily look like modern renditions - for one thing, flying creatures the size of a bus just won't work - but there were real creatures behind the dragon legends.

Kathleen
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
I read one fairly credible theory that Beowulf's monster was describing a T-Rex.
I recall reading about a Roman legion that was delayed for several days in North Africa by a "dragon" that also sounded very much like a dinosaur.

As for the warnings on the classes, who reads those anyway?

Yes, there are 'dragon' legends all over the world that are probably based on creatures we might call dinosaurs.

The Welsh had small flying serpents that were a danger to their poultry flocks. Something similar was once apparently fairly common in Egypt - in both cases, they apparently traveled in groups.

There are carved images of dinosaur-like creatures in both Americas and in Southeast Asia (a stegosaur on an old temple in Cambodia), among others.

There is just too much evidence of contact between humans and 'dinosaurs'/dragons to dismiss it all as inventions.

Kathleen
 
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