ALERT Occupy Portland getting shut down

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big_sarge

Membership Revoked
Occupy Portland has until midnight tonight (Saturday) to disband and vacate the parks they are in...Tensions have been on the rise since this deadline was announced about three days ago. I expect violence if/when the police go in to clear them out...should show up on the national news.

They are clearing the out because of a marked increase in crime, violence, drug use, etc...
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Thanks big_sarge. This will probably be used as a model of closing down other OWSer groups ... but whether how to or how not to remains to be seen at this point.
 
theoriginaldeb

theoriginaldeb

Still A Geology Fanatic
big_sarge said:
Occupy Portland has until midnight tonight (Saturday) to disband and vacate the parks they are in...Tensions have been on the rise since this deadline was announced about three days ago. I expect violence if/when the police go in to clear them out...should show up on the national news.

They are clearing the out because of a marked increase in crime, violence, drug use, etc...
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Heard from a friend who lives nearby that it had gotten pretty large and rowdy to the point that it was keeping the locals away--probably having a negative impact on business.

Occupy SLC is closing down too after someone died at that location.
 
vessie

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Occupy Portland being shut down you say?

Aaahhh, well oh poo... (insert imaginary pic of sad mime). :D V
 
Abdon

Abdon

Inactive
So how or when does our 1st amendment gets stomped on? As much as I dislike these "occupys" I have to remember what our United States Constition says!

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
 
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Disciple

Veteran Member
Abdon said:
So how or when does our 1st amendment gets stomped on? As much as I dislike these "occupys" I have to remember what our United States Constition says!

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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If they are on public property and if they are peaceful they have their rights. However they have no intention of LEAVING. They see themselves as OCCUPIERS. As when a conquering power occupys another.
 
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Richard

TB Fanatic
don't worry OWS this that and the other will fade out because they have no agenda or alternative policies that will work

will anyone challenge this

if Pete Seeger and Crosby Nash sing songs what the **** difference will this make unless they have a positive alternative political/financial strategy
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
carriem213: Portland is like my second home and I'm incredibly apprehensive about tonight. Wish I could be there to support. :( Peaceful wishes! #ows
Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:56:24 PM

Stone_Grey: Is #Occupy losing steam??? #Police arrest man after scuffle at Occupy #Portland; organizers plan for 'orderly exit' http://t.co/xzFys1Ih
Saturday, November 12, 2011 6:06:46 PM

http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/pm_29233/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=IkZQFqOV

wmathison: RT @DougDauntless: #Occupy #Portland: Police remove TRUCKLOAD of rocks, stones from camp as tensions mount http://t.co/xnrG0FvM // This is the #antiwar crowd?
Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:52:58 PM

owsMediaBot: RT @MaggieMHarris #occupy Portland SWAT team. Oh sh*t. http://t.co/pY9OBlkr
Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:37:03 PM

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HCCollins11: RT @EternalRiteWing: RT @RightCandidates: #Occupy Have Weapns, Reinforcemnts 4 Confrontation w PD http://t.co/vBXYFAYY // WHIL… (cont) http://t.co/4LT75fnK
Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:30:05 PM

I don't know as this is true but I'll give it to you ^^^^^^^


http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=#OCCUPY+PORTLAND
 
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goatlady2

Deceased
I have YET to see/hear of a petition from any Occupy group to the government. A bunch of sound bytes on the 6 o'clock news does not a petition equal.
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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SIRR1 said:
Occupy St. Louis was shut down last night at midnight on orders from the Mayor.

Full story here at www.ksdk.com

SIRR1
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mzkitty said:
Salt Lake City is getting busted tonight too. Also the Denver police are staging right now, according to a tweet I just put on the long thread.
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Good. Since they refused to be accountable for themselves, their guests, and their movements it is time passed time for them to be evicted.

And I hope they get busted for all of the "tax deductible" donations as well since obviously they've got all of the financial sense of a grasshopper. Of course they are not the ones that have to pay the bills of damage, etc. they create ... it is the 53% who are the taxpayers once again getting shafted by the irresponsible.
 
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BoatGuy

Inactive
Abdon said:
So how or when does our 1st amendment gets stomped on? As much as I dislike these "occupys" I have to remember what our United States Constition says!

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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I agree 100%... except that they are petitioning to end our way of life and not doing it peacably, in many cases. With rights, come responsibilities, and from what I've seen, most of these people don't think that they are responsible for anything. JMHO. YMMV
 
Be Well

Be Well

may all be well
Abdon said:
So how or when does our 1st amendment gets stomped on? As much as I dislike these "occupys" I have to remember what our United States Constition says!

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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This is not a First Amendment issue. The Occupukes are free to talk, write letters to the editor, write books, pring up flyers, write blogs, make websites, stand and babble at street corners, etc. Camping out in filth has nothing whatsoever to do with free speech.

And they are not peaceably assembling, that's obvious.
 
Be Well

Be Well

may all be well
compchyk said:
NY is a PRIVATE park!
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1. THey are not staying on the private park, they are creating serious nuisances and commiting crimes all over the neighborhood.

2. The city of NY is responsible for the nuisances, filth and health hazards, increase in crime and damage to the businesses in the area.

3. The company that owns Zucotti Park got a bunch of money from the 0bama adminstration shortly before the whole shindig. I wonder why.....
 
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sojourner for Truth

Contributing Member
Bike Swarm Article

'Bicycle swarm' planned to protect Occupy encampment from police
Posted by Jonathan Maus (Publisher/Editor) on November 11th, 2011 at 11:56 am


With yesterday's announcement by Mayor Sam Adams and Police Chief Mike Reese that they will enforce park camping laws beginning 12:01 this Sunday, a showdown between the police and Occupy Portland might be inevitable.

To help create a buffer zone between the encampment and any police action, a decision was made at the General Assembly last night to create a "swarm" of people on bikes and foot around Chapman and Lownsdale Squares. Here's more from activist and videographer Dan Kaufman:

"The general consensus is that there needs to be a party and potluck Saturday night and camp needs to be cleaned and cleared of much of the stuff (tents and other belongings) in advance. Occupiers want as many supporters as possible to protect and hold the camp in a non-violent fashion."

The idea of the bicycle swarm, says Kaufman, is akin to creating a critical mass of riders around the parks. "You're not doing anything illegal, you're just riding your bike." Kaufman says people on bikes and foot will circle around the parks to "disrupt the flow of what's going on."

The atmosphere of the bicycle swarm and inside the camps is intended to be festive and non-threatening. Kaufman encourages folks to wear costumes, decorate their bikes and bring bike sound systems.

The swarm meets at 11:00 pm at Salmon Street Fountain on Saturday night and will then roll to the encampments. Organizers say they hope new groups continue to arrive on the streets surrounding Chapman and Lownsdale Squares each hour on the hour beginning at 11:00 pm because it's unknown exactly what time the police might begin a raid or whether or not they'll do it at all.

"Be prepared to stay up late or be called back later since we won't know when the Swarm will be needed most. Text PDXOccupy to 23559 to receive critical updates," reads the event listing.

Learn more about the event on Kaufman's blog.

http://bikeportland.org/2011/11/11/...ccupy-encampment-from-police-61878#more-61878
 
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mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
The OWS grid is back up now, so if you want to read at the Portland one I gave you earlier above, it should be working now too.
 
Kent

Kent

Inactive
Abdon said:
So how or when does our 1st amendment gets stomped on? As much as I dislike these "occupys" I have to remember what our United States Constition says!

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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peaceably to assemble
 
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Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
It's time for these jokers to head to the house. They've assembled and said their piece, quite a while ago. Frankly, they have little, if anything, of any real value left to say. Except, perhaps, to explain why they, a bunch of people who are complaining primarily about not having sufficient health insurance (among a whole litany of other complaints), are hanging around in public parks spreading tuberculosis, dysentery and venereal diseases among themselves.

Seems like they would be more careful about congregating in public and providing multiple vectors for contagion, what with many of them lacking health insurance and all that. :rolleyes:
 
Be Well

Be Well

may all be well
This is about Portland so I"ll post it here; maybe on the long thread too. VIdeo at link, I can't copy for some reason. Shows photo of the charming arsonist/Occupuke.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Police-Downtown-Molotov-cocktail-linked-to-Occupy-133527228.html

Bail Set at $1 Million for Occupy Portland World Trade Center Firebomber


by KGW Staff and Associated Press
Bio | Email | Follow: @KGWNews

Posted on November 9, 2011 at 6:12 AM

Updated yesterday at 6:21 AM


PORTLAND -- Bail for a man inside the Occupy Portland camp Wednesday on accusations related to a Tuesday Molotov cocktail fire was raised to $1 million by a judge Thursday.
David Hodson, 29, was arraigned on first-degree arson, manufacturing a destructive device, possession of an explosive device and second-degree criminal mischief charges.
The accusations also include vandalism to the Smart Park garage at 123 SW Jefferson, according to Portland Fire Bureau spokesman Paul Corah.

Hodson was also arrested Sunday on a reckless burning charge for trash fires that were started near the Occupy Portland encampments at Lownsdale and Chapman Square parks, according to Fire Bureau, Corah said.

Lt. Robert King said a Molotov cocktail caused minor damage Tuesday night on an external stairwell at the building at 121 SW Salmon. The building that was targeted is located one block east of the two parks where Occupy Portland demonstrators have been camped since Oct. 6.

Police received unconfirmed reports on Oct. 31 that gasoline-filled bottles with a cloth wick were being made within the Occupy Portland encampments at Lownsdale and Chapman Square parks, King said.

The Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms assisted in the investigation.

”(Witnesses) saw them go into the camp. That does not necessarily mean that they are part of the camp," protester Gavin Carrots said. "Furthermore, if this is the kind of action that they’re carrying out then they are not part of this protest.”

But there are no spokesholes, so anyone can say anything they want. Heck, the Oakland Occupukes said a dog was the spokesperson/representative. They want to have "no leaders" and then when one of the Pukes commits felonies all of a sudden there are "spokespeople" claiming that the wrongdoers aren't "real" Occupukes.
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In an interview Wednesday morning on OPB, Mayor Sam Adams said that a suspect in the World Trade Center bombing was seen returning to the camp.

Portland's World Trade Center houses the headquarters for Oregon's largest electric utility, state offices, a number of law firms and the office of U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley.

Also on Wednesday, a source told The Oregonian that police were drawing up plans to remove the Occupy Portland campers from the downtown parks. The report said that police were ready to make the move as soon as the mayor gives the go-ahead.

More: City & police form plan for Occupy Portland removal

Anyone with information that may help investigators was asked to call detective Joe Luiz at (503) 823-3408.

Crime Stoppers offers a cash reward of up to $1,000 for information leading to arrests. Tips can be anonymous. Call (503) 823-HELP (4357), leave a tip online at www.crimestoppersoforegon.com, or text CRIMES (274637) and in the subject line put 823HELP, followed by your tip.


[Comment: don't forget the Occupuke protester who made impassioned pleas to the City Council to allow the Pukes to continue their camout, and a few days later set fire to a building, causing millions of dollars in damage.]
 
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gunnersmom

Veteran Member
Personally, I think it's stupid to give these groups till midnight to get outta town. Why not BEFORE dark? If I were the mayor/city manager/whatever, that place would be cleaned out before the sun went down.
 
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gelatinous

Eyes WIDE Open
I wonder what outside pressures made Sam Adams (the child molesting mayor of Portland) decide that it was time to clean up the OW'rs? This guy is about as far left wing as they come and supported them when they first drove up in their magic bus.
 
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BoatGuy

Inactive
Back when I was a kid, my parents used to tell me that I would be known, not for who I am, but for the company that I keep. That lesson must have died out sometime in the intervening years. Perhaps the parents of today would be well-advised to begin teaching it, again. In a perfect world, maybe you can hang out with an arsonist, and not be called an accessory. But, in a perfect world, there wouldn't be an arsonist, either.

The funny thing about civil disobedience, is that you better be on the winning side of the argument, and for that, you have to have the support of the masses, whether they protest with you or not. When this is over, I think a lot of people are going to find that their collective futures have been pretty much destroyed by being a part of this "movement".
 
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compchyk

The Computer Chyck
Be Well said:
1. THey are not staying on the private park, they are creating serious nuisances and commiting crimes all over the neighborhood.

2. The city of NY is responsible for the nuisances, filth and health hazards, increase in crime and damage to the businesses in the area.

3. The company that owns Zucotti Park got a bunch of money from the 0bama adminstration shortly before the whole shindig. I wonder why.....
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but you missed my earlier posts which said THEY NEED TO BE SHUT DOWN and that I pass by and work in the area? Yes it is a cesspool
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
favstar_pop: RT @AdamTheAlien: Portland mayor has declared the parks, which are supposed to officially re-open at 5am, are closed indefinitely. #OccupyPortland #OWS
Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:49:06 AM

laurapcd1: RT @AutumnalMonk: Disgusting: Bloodthirsty cons @USATuna & @TheMaverick21 call for police to shoot #OWS protesters with live ammo. #OPDX #OO #OccupyPortland
Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:47:11 AM

YogaSimhaZurich: Watching #occupyPortland livestream! http://t.co/yv6uohXX #ows, #humanrights, #truedemocracy
Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:48:29 AM

http://globalrevolution.tv/
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
What I'm hearing/seeing is the protesters put up barricades and the cops have been standing there all night, and Twitter put a half hour lag on tweets from Portland.



8:22 AM thebody2u: they aren't doing anything....
8:22 AM notauser: yea screw twitter
8:22 AM suziq2: r they trying 2 corner you in?
8:22 AM Pekitez: DID you se any MASKS on them
8:22 AM icepick127001: The cops went into the building to take a pee break. :)
8:22 AM issyd: please can you get everyone to sit down? the police CANNOT legally move on you if your all sat down as you are not a THREAT sitting down
8:22 AM LionsRoar: becareful please.
8:22 AM Joezep: HomeLand Security must see !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaztexKNf_o&feature=related
8:22 AM VicLyn: wow.. shut down twitter?
8:22 AM xuertua: OWS DOES need a leader. They have not mad any accomplishments or clear demands.
8:22 AM zhxamy: speaker Ralph Nader
8:22 AM swampfox2348: I would sure like to have one of those riot helments the police are wearing when I raid my bee hives
8:22 AM thebody2u: its probably a shift change dude
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
mourningdove said:
Still there. Lots and lots of people. Must have been too many to try to clear out.
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Probably. They turned off the park lights now though and:

ericverlo: via livestream #OccupyPortland Cops have locked or removed public toilets. How practical is a Right to Assemble w/o facilities? #opdx #ows
Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:49:32 AM


Also, Tweet grid seems frozen at 7:49. Hmmm........
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
Yup, my personal Twitter account seems frozen from about an hour ago too. Livestream commentator saying it appears there's still about a thousand people there.


Obamas policy is Predator Drones
8:44 AM UpTwinkles: What is with all this people from Minnesooota? Weird.
8:44 AM silkycon: morning suz
8:44 AM Over9OOO: how does one get bonus points withoput capslock?
8:44 AM Equality4All: Love on Portland
8:44 AM marylander: Yes there CAN be an occupy party
8:44 AM notauser: geez man
8:44 AM zhxamy: no
8:44 AM miraclelurker: Saying they want to be peaceful
8:44 AM alltruenatural: italians tended to make things into an art, so be it for the corruption
8:44 AM xx_ANON_xx: lol
8:45 AM dukesmom2: we'll see about that won't we?
8:45 AM JFinnity: Lenny8 I am sure you are being ironical .. I had to laugh the other day Clinton was saying how Iraq should be free of foreign influences
8:45 AM xx_ANON_xx: user crck me up
8:45 AM DrDrumright: respect for each other
8:45 AM zhxamy: no occupy party

outlast you. I think that's the plan.
8:46 AM freedomghostrider: horsies like to walk on marbles
8:46 AM VicLyn: peaceful
8:46 AM alltruenatural: theselfgoverned...i agree i think the dems will claim OWS as their or being aligned with it to recieve power
8:46 AM OccupyThePlanet: GOOD LUCK
8:46 AM runner_bon: I choose Occupy ! "F" Obama and Mitt!
8:46 AM zhxamy: they are having a party on the streets
8:46 AM utopia27: @drdrumright i can get with that
8:46 AM Herself: TY Adirondecks!
8:46 AM ds2vet: reform based revolution in tandem with the message demonstrated in the streets
8:47 AM Pekitez: POLICE are moving up Guys
8:47 AM PdxOccupy: 99% aren't extremists, WS and 1% are the extremists
8:47 AM rockrolldddio: @Silky rumor has it Denver caught up with mayor and yelled at him, then, went to catch some zzzzz
8:47 AM zhxamy: we have Street party
8:47 AM miraclelurker: police not talking about taking the park but are talking about needing to open the streets
8:47 AM OccupyThePlanet: Police say protesters re-inforcing the wall
8:47 AM jayfly357: wow portland stream chat is cruizing along cant even read it
8:47 AM aperspective: direct democracy
8:47 AM dukesmom2: twinkie is a cop
8:47 AM notauser: the people are using the streets
 
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