Doomer Doug

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It looks like Japan's version of the pump monkeys are failing.
The Nikkei did go up 2.65 percent in the morning session.
At precisely 1 pm Japan time it started to tank.
It is now down over 2 percent and some 300 points. The entire loss of 300 points has taken place in less than ONE HOUR!
There is another one hour of trading before the close.

Assuming the losses hold, or even increase, we will be looking at a global stock rout. The yahoos in New York won't be able to ignore two days of heavy losses.
 

Housecarl

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If the Japanese pump monkeys are running out of juice, do they go to the US Fed Reserve for a loan or are all the houses of cards on the block about to fall down?
 

Doomer Doug

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Looks like the PUMP MONKEYS ARE COMING OUT SWINGING!!!
The graph looks like a shuttle launch. The BOJ is clearly dumping multiple billions of Yen into the market. It has gone up 100 points in the last 10 minutes. The only way for that to happen is somebody is throwing money around.
 

Doomer Doug

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Endless money

Housearl, Japan has billions in US Treasury bonds and ready cash they can use to pump the market. Japan has their own version of the TARP funds of Bernanke the Braying Jackass.

I'm thinking the WILD SWINGS during a ten minute period will not inspire global investors very much. It is called market volatility and it is not a good sign.
The Nikkei went up nearly 3 percent in the morning session. Next, it went down 3 percent during the first few hours of the afternoon session. Now it is going up 1 to 3 percent in the last HOUR OF TRADING. Yep, the pump monkeys are getting a real workout today!
 

Doomer Doug

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Doomer Doug LOVES THE INTERNET! Here I am watching total chaos in Japan's Nikkei. Absolute, total chaos is unfolding.
The point swing from the morning high to the number right now is 600 POINTS! 600 Points! Talk about a Wild Swing. It is Slim Pickens riding the A-bomb down from the B-52 in "Dr. Strangelove" time.

The Yen is also down over 1 point, from 102.40 to 101.20.
Housecarl the Nikkei went down over 50 points since I started to write this reply THREE MINUTES AGO! We are watching a truly amazing economic event here, gang. I just LOVE THE INTERNET!
 

Doc1

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Glad I'm sitting here with my conservative portfolio of Beanie Babies and Cabbage Patch dolls!

Best regards
Doc
 

Doomer Doug

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Seriously, I am looking at 50 point swings every minute now. It has now gone up nearly 100 points in the last three minutes. This is after going down 100 points in the previous three minutes. Stick with your cabbage patch dolls. The stress level is a lot lower. he he he
 

Doomer Doug

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True Dennis

:lol:
On the other hand there are multiple hundreds of millions of shares being traded. Multiply 30 cents by a 100 million and you are talking some real money.
The one point drop in the Yen probably just cost some currency trader a lot of money if he bet wrong.
The pump monkeys are using their Steroids freely now! The Nikkei is now going up.
Will the pump monkeys be able to pull it off? Will Braying Bernie send moral support in the form of fiat federal reserve notes? Will Japan's Emperor intervene? Will Doomer Doug be able to calm down? The answer to that is NO!
Who needs drugs, Dennis. Doomer Doug is getting a straight shot of the Internet right into his synapses!
 

Hognutz

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Despite 'Promises', Japanese Market Chaos Continues

UPDATE 1: Japanese stocks turned negative (NKY -600pts from highs, -1.5% on day; and TOPIX down over 4% from highs); Japanese banks -11% from yesterday highs; S&P futures down 10 points from after-hours highs...

UPDATE 2: *KURODA WANTS TO AVOID INCREASING VOLATILITY IN BOND MARKET (yeah thanks... as useful as saying "we all want to avoid syphilis")

UPDATE 3: Nikkei 225 Drops below 14,000 - TOPIX down 11% from highs


For the second day in a row, and in spite of comments from Abe and Kuroda on communicating with the market (as Kuroda says BoJ Monetary easing sufficient), Japanese capital markets are out of control.

JPY, after weakening 150 pips from early this morning and breaking back over 102.50 has just given 100 pips back in matter of minutes and is now trading stronger vs the USD on the Japanese session. Japanese stocks have cliff-dived with the NKY dropping 400 points in minutes and TOPIX over 1.5%. JGB futures (prices not yields) have surged back higher to trade unchanged on the day as the correlation we noted earlier - and believe is now critical - has held between an out of control bond market and any further sustainable gains in stocks.

This is not good... as if the JPY carry trade implodes (driven quite simply by a total lack of reward-to-risk given the volatility in the carry currency and loan rates themselves) then what happens to all the levered longs in European peripheral bonds and any number of the 'most-shorted' companies in the US... It seems clear that this is all an experiment to see how markets react - the answer - not well!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-24/despite-promises-japanese-market-chaos-continues

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A whole lot of interesting charts at the link too.
It did drop below 14,000 for awhile.
 

Doomer Doug

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If you click on the link and look at the graph you will see what Doomer Doug is talking about. The line from two onward looks like a drunk using an etch a sketch. The level of chaos in Japan is going to freak out the traders in Europe. The market volatility is truly amazing if you can stand back and look at it without bias.
 

Red Baron

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Betcha a can of Red Bull that the Nikkei closes very near 14,500.

Seen that pattern with our domestic PPT.
 

Red Baron

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Headed for a nice soft landing, crisis averted, Doomer Doug still not able to calm down. ;)
 

China Connection

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Japan a danger for the U.S.: This Crisis Is 30 Times Bigger Than Greece

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...S.-This-Crisis-Is-30-Times-Bigger-Than-Greece

Japan will have a huge effect on you there in the U.S. ........................................................................................ This Crisis Is 30 Times Bigger Than Greece May 20, 2013 Japan has fueled much of this latest rally in stocks, driving the marketing first with...
Started by China Connection‎, 05-21-2013 12:48 PM
 

Doomer Doug

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Yes, the PUMP MONKEYS DID IT! They poured enough money into the market to get a 96 point gain!

The market volatility factor was 1000 points. The high was 15,000, and the low was 14,000. It is truly amazing to watch this unfold on my computer screen. It is clear from the graph that massive amounts of money was dumped into the market around 2:30 pm Japan time. Oh well, this is what the PPT does. Oops, it is now headed down for the final 13 minutes of trading. We are probably looking a small gain, or a close near what the morning open was. It is another triumph for the pump monkeys.
 

Tesss

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And we have a winner... Doomer Doug in the catagory for late night entertainment!

Doomer Doug,

You are always so much fun to watch. Just gotta love ya! Just gotta ;)
 

Doomer Doug

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Thank you! It looks like we are going to end up with a 1 percent gain out of all this chaos. Everybody in Japan will have all weekend to think about the 1000 point swing. Europe will be starting soon and we will see if this has any global impact.
 

Doomer Doug

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The close

The official numbers are a point 89 percent increase and a 128.47 gain. Again, this is with a 1000 point swing during the entire trading session.
In the last one hour of trading the swing was over 400 points. Actually the 400 point swing was in the last 30 minutes of trading.
 

Tesss

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It truly was amazing to watch... the numbers bouncing around I mean. ;) Seriously, how long can this kind of stuff continue?
 

Ben Sunday

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Bloomberg now showing the Nikkei UP 20 points to close at 14, 610.

One thing seems certain. They can't pull 1,000 point swings like this without some kind of negative domino effect in both their markets and elsewhere.
 

China Connection

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Finance Search

Fri, May 24, 2013, 6:57AM EDT - US Markets open in 2 hrs and 33 mins
Markets roiled by Nikkei's 7.3 percent slide
Stocks in Europe take battering after Japan's Nikkei tanks over 7 percent; US markets steady
Associated PressBy Pan Pylas and Pamela Sampson, AP Business Writers |

LONDON (AP) -- Financial markets around the world were roiled Thursday after Japanese stocks suffered their biggest slide since the country was hit by a devastating tsunami more than two years ago.

As a day of huge volatility ended in Europe, a steadier tone on Wall Street was emerging, easing concerns that the latest sell-off in stock markets represents the beginning of a mini-crash at least.

The volatility was stoked by a 7.3 percent, or 1,143 points, fall in the Nikkei index to 14,483.98. Many factors for the drop were cited, including a spike in the Japanese government's borrowing costs and unexpectedly weak Chinese manufacturing figures.

However, the turn in sentiment in financial markets had its roots in the U.S. on Wednesday and the mixed messages from the Federal Reserve about when it might start scaling back its bond-buying program.

While the written testimony to lawmakers from Fed chairman Ben Bernanke appeared to signal that the central bank wasn't ready to change its policy of flooding the economy with money by buying up bonds from banks, subsequent remarks — and the minutes of the Fed's last rate-setting meeting — triggered speculation that a change is afoot.

Much of the recovery in global stock markets over the past few years has had its roots in the money-creation policies of a number of the world's leading central banks, including the Fed, the Bank of England and most recently the Bank of Japan.

The fresh funds, which have come from the central banks buying financial assets, have found their way into the financial markets. The withdrawal of some of the Fed's stimulus measures has been seen by many in the markets as the greatest threat to stocks for some time.

Others say financial markets need to get over their addiction to stimulus and the ending of these emergency central bank policies will be a clear signal that the global economy is healing well from the financial crisis and the deepest recession since World War II.

Those longer-term considerations didn't hold much sway during the Asian and European sessions. However, U.S. markets had recovered their poise.

"U.S. markets are not showing the same inclination to drop sharply as seen in Japan and Europe, which will give the optimists some hope that the latest dip will prove to be as short-lived as all the others this year," said Rupert Osborne, a futures trader at IG.

In Europe, the FTSE 100 index of leading British shares closed down 2.1 percent at 6,696.79. Germany's DAX, which has hit a series of all-time highs recently, also tumbled 2.1 percent to 8,351.98 while the CAC-40 in France fell 2.1 percent at 3,967.15.

In the U.S., the Dow Jones industrial average was down only 0.1 percent at 15.294 while the broader S&P 500 index fell 0.4 percent to 1,649. U.S. stocks had less room to fall following their falls on Wednesday.

Some sort of decline in global indexes, especially in the Nikkei, had been anticipated over recent sessions following a run that's seen many hit historic highs — after all, investors always look to cash in on their profits at some stage.

However, the scale of the retreat in Japan in particular has raised questions over the underlying motives behind the rally.

The main debate now in the markets is whether Thursday's developments mark the end of the euphoria that has gripped many investors this year.

"Whether this marks the beginning of the correction, or whether the bulls dust themselves down for another go remains to be seen, but it appears inevitable that we're going to see more of the same in the months ahead," said Mike McCudden, head of derivatives at Interactive Investor.

Much of the near-term outlook could rest on the performance of the Nikkei, which has been the best-performing major index this year, having risen around 45 percent — before Thursday's loss — to five-year highs. The index has been buoyed by the announcement of an aggressive monetary stimulus from the Bank of Japan, which has piled the pressure on the yen. That development is a potential boon to the country's exporters and therefore to growth — a favorable backdrop for stock investors.

Many in the markets blamed the Nikkei's fall on the spike in the interest rate charged on country's benchmark 10-year bond to above 1 percent for the first time in a year. That unnerved investors at a time when Japan's already overburdened government finances are vulnerable to rises in interest rates. The interest rate, or yield, later slipped back to about 0.9 percent.

The sell-off is a reminder of Japan's vulnerability as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe tries to end two decades of stagnation with unprecedented monetary easing, increased government spending and reforms to make the world's No. 3 economy more competitive.

The level of Japan's debt is higher, relative to its economy, than even some of the crisis-stricken European countries. But because it is mostly owned by domestic investors, especially huge banks and insurance companies, the country's credit rating has remained steady. About a quarter of the national budget is interest payments on government debt.

Markets elsewhere in Asia sank sharply after a survey showed China's manufacturing contracted in May. HSBC said its preliminary Purchasing Managers Index fell to a seven-month low of 49.6 in May from April's 50.4. Numbers below 50 indicate that activity is contracting. Analysts had expected a more modest decline to 50.3.

The Shanghai Composite Index lost 1.2 percent to 2275.67, its biggest fall in a month while the smaller Shenzhen Composite Index shed 0.7 percent to close at 1014.47.

Elsewhere, Hong Kong's Hang Seng slumped 2.5 percent to 22,669.68. South Korea's Kospi lost 1.2 percent to 1,969.19. Australia's S&P/ASX 200 dropped 2 percent to 5,062.40.

There were big moves across a range of financial assets.

In the currency markets, the yen was the main mover following the rise in Japanese yields. The yen has bounced back strongly, after falling to near five-year lows against the dollar on Wednesday. The dollar was trading 1 percent lower at 101.64 yen, having earlier fallen to a low of 100.86 yen.

Oil prices were under the kosh too amid concerns over the global growth environment — the benchmark New York rate was down $1.55 at $92.73 a barrel. Gold, however, was in demand as it benefited from its status as a haven at a time of uncertainty. It was up 0.8 percent at $1,378 an ounce.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/markets-roiled-nikkeis-7-3-102530804.html
 

alpha

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Seriously, I am looking at 50 point swings every minute now. It has now gone up nearly 100 points in the last three minutes. This is after going down 100 points in the previous three minutes. Stick with your cabbage patch dolls. The stress level is a lot lower. he he he

Record this moment for posterity! Doomer Doug finally (through all the excitement no doubt) referred to himself in the first person!!! This is a moment for Helen to use as a benchmark!
 

Dennis Olson

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If DD and Dobbin got together, they could have a conversation in Third Person Horse. I'd pay money to listen to that...


:dvl1:
 

Doomer Doug

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Dennis, Doomer Doug is thinking about how to talk in the FOURTH PERSON! Doomer Doug has never limited his rants to reality!
 
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