MNKYPOX Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

phloydius

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US Health Officials Weigh Emergency Declaration Over Monkeypox
Madison Muller and Jeannie Baumann

(Bloomberg) -- The Biden administration is considering whether to declare the monkeypox outbreak a public health emergency as cases in the US soared to more than 2,800 on Friday, a White House official said.

“Certainly it’s a conversation that’s ongoing,” Ashish Jha, the White House Covid response coordinator told reporters. “We’re looking at that, looking at what are the ways in which the response could be enhanced by declaring a public health emergency.”

Jha added that any declaration would come from the Department of Health and Human Services.

His remarks came as the World Health Organization has been debating whether to take similar action, expected as soon as Saturday, after the number of infections reported globally surpassed 16,000. Around the world, monkeypox is still primarily affecting men who have sex with men and those who identify as gay or bisexual.

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Krayola

Veteran Member
They found three people who had clear evidence of infection in their blood, yet never showed any symptoms of monkeypox. All had been previously vaccinated against smallpox.
I have seen a couple of posts mentioning this but they never say if the infected people ( who were vaccinated and showed no symptoms) were able to spread the disease to others.
 

jward

passin' thru
Multi-Country Monkeypox Outbreak - Global Trends - July 22 2022
Yesterday, 02:23 PM
World Health Organization

Produced on 22 July 2022

... 3.3 Case profile (overall)

The following outputs reflect various demographic characteristics in confirmed monkeypox cases. Note that these data are only derived from detailed case data, and as a result, total numbers of cases and deaths may differ from those reported via aggregate case data where reporting is not fully aligned.

As shown below, and stated previously, the ongoing outbreak is largely developing in MSM (Men who have Sex with Men; defined as homosexual or bisexual males in reporting forms) networks. In the following analyses, we have re-coded men reported as bisexual as MSM. Note that reported sexual orientation does not necessarily reflect who the case has had recent sexual history with nor does it imply sexual activity. Generally, severity has been low, with few reported hospitalisations and deaths:
  • 98.8% (9990/10107) of cases with available data are male, the median age is 37 years (IQR: 31-43).
  • Males between 18-44 years old continue to be disproportionately affected by this outbreak as they account for 77.2% of cases.
  • Of the 10,141 cases where age was available, there were 72 (0.7%) cases reported aged 0-17, out of which 23 (0.2%) were aged 0-4.
  • Among cases with known data on sexual orientation, 98.1% (3438/3506) identified as MSM. Of those identified as MSM, 33 / 3438 (1.0%) were identified as bisexual men.
  • Among those with known HIV status 39.6% (1,015/2,561) were HIV-positive. Note that information on HIV status is not available for the majority of cases, and for those for which it is available, it is likely to be skewed towards those reporting positive HIV results.
  • 253 cases were reported to be health workers. However, most were infected in the community and further investigation is ongoing to determine whether the remaining infection was due to occupational exposure.
  • Of all reported types of transmission, a sexual encounter was reported most commonly, with 2,584 of 2,745 (94.1%) of all reported transmission events.
  • Of all settings in which cases were likely exposed, the most common was in party setting with sexual contacts, with 443 of 1,039 (42.6%) of all likely exposure categories.
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jward

passin' thru
Sorry, for those who didn't know, project lincoln project is an anti-djt republican pac, who's cofounder (?) was a married father involved in a scandal around sexual solicitations of young fellas. I, and perhaps others, sometimes confuse them with log cabin republicans, which is the LGBTetc group.
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No. I am asking if seeding the child/youth groups is a tactic that has shown up in any of the desktop gaming of this, or via any other channels.

So are you saying the fags at Project Lincoln were molesting children?
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
It is almost at the point WHERE I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT MASKS, BUT SURGICAL GLOVES if you go shopping or out in public, or to work. If you have not gotten a smallpox shot back in caveman days.

This Monkeypox, i believe, is passed more frequently to people who avoid intimate contact, by contaminated objects.

ALL PATIENTS have to do is get some of the oozing sores (all over them) onto their hands and touch something that you later touch and you got monkeypox.
AND DON'T TOUCH YOUR EYES (or nose) WHILE YOU ARE OUT, before you WASH YOUR HANDS.

AND DONT TAKE OFF YOUR GLOVES TILL YOU WASH THEM IN THE STORE LAVATORY!
And use a paper towel if you have to touch the bathroom door on your way out!

IF YOU WAIT TILL YOU GET HOME TO FIRST WASH THE GLOVES, THEN TAKE THEM OFF, AND WASH YOUR HANDS, YOU CAN ASSUME YOU HAVE DEPOSITED WITH YOUR DIRTY GLOVES MONKEYPOX ON YOU CAR KEYS, STEERING WHEEL, CAR DOOR HANDLE, INSIDE DOOR HANDLE, SEAT BELT, TURN SIGNAL, RADIO KNOB, HOUSE DOOR HANDLE, YOUR OWN BATHROOM DOOR HANDLE, THE FAUCET HANDLES OF YOUR OWN SINK, AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU TOUCHED WITH YOUR DIRTY RUBBER GLOVES!

And PAY WITH YOUR DEBIT CARD, its easier to wash than change and currency!
Get some rubber gloves!
 
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helen

Panic Sex Lady
Actually, you should avoid being out in public if at all possible.

It spreads by coughing and sneezing as well as by touch. These are fomites that can live in air currents and on surfaces within the environmental condituons found in a cool room up to a sauna.

It enters any mucous membrane or any microscopic abrasion on skin. You can carry it on your shoes or clothing into your home or car.

There is no way to live a normal life and stop it from spreading.
 

TxGal

Day by day
This past week while grocery shopping in a number of stores, I saw more than a few people across the age spectrum wearing masks again. Several folks had surgical gloves on.

At the time, I wondered if folks were concerned about yet another variant/increase in Covid cases. Now I'm wondering if perhaps the pox is on peoples' minds.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
This past week while grocery shopping in a number of stores, I saw more than a few people across the age spectrum wearing masks again. Several folks had surgical gloves on.

At the time, I wondered if folks were concerned about yet another variant/increase in Covid cases. Now I'm wondering if perhaps the pox is on peoples' minds.
Well, yeah. Its NOW up to THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WITH IT IN THE USA!
 

Cowgirl4christ

Senior Member
So.

Monkey pox.
Covid (what’s in the future for Covid restrictions again?)
Insane heatwave (but not record-breaking yet, correct?)
Runaway inflation
Food shortages
Supply shortages.
Parts shortages (microchips, electronics, parts needed to fix cars, etc etc)
California new 1099 rule on owner/operators.
Supply chain issues (which will continue to worsen.)
Employee shortages.
Power shortages in the forecast to include possible rolling black outs (I haven’t heard much about this lately.)
Fuel price increases (ok, the prices have come back down, but that’s not a good sign either… it’s a lose-lose, no winner situation, am I correct?)
DEF shortages which will continue to expand.
Real Estate bubble in the process of popping.
Food plant shut-downs and fires.
Fuel plant fires.
Biden’s senility

What am I missing?

And this doesn’t even touch global issues (which are the same or worse.)

How are 95% of Americans (my frustrated estimate) NOT seeing the writing on the wall and getting prepared???!!! My own DIL is talking about taking a freaking family trip to a Mexico (don’t get me started.) Coworkers can’t figure out why they are processing fewer POs for refrigeration over the past couple weeks and arent one iota worried about freight issues. Heck. We still give one piece free freight on most orders! (I will say that our company’s products are 95% made in America with the remaining 5% made in Italy, Germany, or Venezuela… but our owner had forethought to pre-purchase those parts.)

When Americans REALLY start listening to all this Monkeypox stuff, they’re going to hide in closets. Right now, how many really understand this?? “Monkeypox? I’ve heard about it on the news but I’m not worried.” Yes. That’s what a few people have said to me. I think they’ve just shut down. They don’t want to know about it. The American public can’t emotionally handle the possibility of another pandemic… let alone the horrific nature of this disease.

Rant over.
 

SageRock

Veteran Member

From looking at the graph, it appears that the infection rate is increasing relatively slowly (e.g., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5) rather than the other, scarier rates of increase (e.g., 1, 2, 4, 8, 16) and (e.g., 1, 4, 16, 64). So this moves a bit slower than Covid-19 did.

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As others have pointed out downthread, the data may not be fully representative of the actual rate of spread, since it can be quite difficult to get tested, and many people report being turned away from testing. However, the data, such as it is, does give some indication of the probable rate of increase.
 
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phloydius

Veteran Member
For the first few infectious days, Monkeypox may be mistaken for a cold, covid, or the flu.
Patient become infectious to others at the very first sign of symptoms, typically via airborne transmission.



--- Simple Summary ---
Early Symptoms: Swollen lymph nodes, fever, headache, cough, muscle & back pain, fatigue, chills
Middle Symptoms: Painful rash & pimples
Later Symptoms: Sores that resemble blisters & abscesses
Final Symptoms: Score scab over, dry, and fall off



--- Detailed Summary ---
Day 0: Infection Date
+4-17 Days: Start of first symptom (Mean of 8 Days)

First Symptoms (for 1-3 Days): light dry cough, tickle in the throat (caused by infectious sores lower in the throat).

Second Symptoms (for 2-4 Days): Worse cough, hacking, shortness of breath, turn into flu-like tiredness & body aches, slight headache, loss of concentration. Sores or ulcers in the throat and mouth (may be very small and hard to see), chills, mild fever (99F-100F), enlarged lymph nodes.

Third Symptoms: Red inflamed bump similar to a bug bite or pimple in body-wide random locations (not isolated to only one part of the body) or small round weeping wound with a white border. Sores in full digestive track (including anus) that may cause blood or puss in stool. Increase in fever (up to 103F). Tiredness, body aches, and headaches become severe.

Fourth Symptoms: Inflamed bumps turn into blister-like, or syphilis-like oozing wounds. Severe itching. Wounds turn deeper with a thicker wound edge. Fever (up to 104F). Morphine may not eliminate severe pain in more severe cases.

Final Phase (Recovery or Death): Recovery -- Fever & headache start reducing in severity. Wounds start to regress and itches starts to lessen over several weeks. Stay very weak & tired with lagging cough.


Note: This information is based on subjective reports on social media from patients as well as official information. It is entirely possible that there are errors, and is the information to the best of my knowledge -- but should NOT be considered medical advice!
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
When Americans REALLY start listening to all this Monkeypox stuff, they’re going to hide in closets. Right now, how many really understand this?? “Monkeypox? I’ve heard about it on the news but I’m not worried.” Yes. That’s what a few people have said to me. I think they’ve just shut down. They don’t want to know about it. The American public can’t emotionally handle the possibility of another pandemic… let alone the horrific nature of this disease.

It is happening everywhere, even here on TB2k and on this thread. How many times has there been a post along the lines of "I'm not a homosexual man having sex with men so I have nothing to worry about" (although said much more vulgar)? The liberal media has done a very good job (in a manipulative subtle way) of convincing Americans (especially conservatives) that it is a "gay disease", and people are buying it hook line and sinker.

Edited to Add: [As an example] There is a AP article from 2 days ago with the headline that Monkeypox is a STD. Then buried deep in the article it quietly admits that it may not be & that anyone can catch it. However this article is all over social media being touted as proof that "there is nothing to fear".
 
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Tigerlily

Senior Member
From looking at the graph, it appears that the infection rate is increasing relatively slowly (e.g., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5) rather than the other, scarier rates of increase (e.g., 1, 2, 4, 8, 16) and (e.g., 1, 4, 16, 64). So this moves a bit slower than Covid-19 did.
That's what happens when you deliberately restrict access to testing. This is their chosen method of restricting the data showing sharp increases. It is also being used to bolster "this a gay men spread narrative." What do you think happens, when women or children show up in ER USA, has blisters and asks for a Monkeypox test? I know, because I have read about people's frustrating experiences.
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
What do you think happens, when women or children show up in ER USA, has blisters and asks for a Monkeypox test? I know, because I have read about people's frustrating experiences.

I have read a bunch of those experiences as well. They are told: Don't worry about it, go home, work, and school and spread this everywhere you can. Okay, so I'm exaggerating to make a point, but not as much as might be thought.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It is happening everywhere, even here on TB2k and on this thread. How many times has there been a post along the lines of "I'm not a homosexual man having sex with men so I have nothing to worry about" (although said much more vulgar)? The liberal media has done a very good job (in a manipulative subtle way) of convincing Americans (especially conservatives) that it is a "gay disease", and people are buying it hook line and sinker.

Edited to Add: [As an example] There is a AP article from 2 days ago with the headline that Monkeypox is a STD. Then buried deep in the article it quietly admits that it may not be & that anyone can catch it. However this article is all over social media being touted as proof that "there is nothing to fear".
To the detriment of every person on the planet, too!
Therefore, we have to take care of ourselves the best way we know how.
 
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psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
(This probably belongs in one of the prep threads but….right now, I’d a great time to get what you need, especially regarding cleaning and disinfectants!
I just got home from a big Kroger run…,it’s “back to school time”, I saw tons of things we’re gonna need stacked up and on sale!
I beefed up Chlorox wipes, Clorox Multi Surface spray, etc. Get ‘em, while you can. Chlorox has a new one I wanted but “over spent” on hay I planned on today though.
It’s called “Chlorox Clinical”… hospital grade.
Chlorox products are on that EPA list for pox and Covid.)
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
(This probably belongs in one of the prep threads but….right now, I’d a great time to get what you need, especially regarding cleaning and disinfectants!
I just got home from a big Kroger run…,it’s “back to school time”, I saw tons of things we’re gonna need stacked up and on sale!
I beefed up Chlorox wipes, Clorox Multi Surface spray, etc. Get ‘em, while you can. Chlorox has a new one I wanted but “over spent” on hay I planned on today though.
It’s called “Chlorox Clinical”… hospital grade.
Chlorox products are on that EPA list for pox and Covid.)

Yep. I just finished my clorox products shopping spree a few days ago. I haven't seen the Clorox Clinical, though.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It is happening everywhere, even here on TB2k and on this thread. How many times has there been a post along the lines of "I'm not a homosexual man having sex with men so I have nothing to worry about" (although said much more vulgar)? The liberal media has done a very good job (in a manipulative subtle way) of convincing Americans (especially conservatives) that it is a "gay disease", and people are buying it hook line and sinker.

Edited to Add: [As an example] There is a AP article from 2 days ago with the headline that Monkeypox is a STD. Then buried deep in the article it quietly admits that it may not be & that anyone can catch it. However this article is all over social media being touted as proof that "there is nothing to fear".

Don't be too hard on those who haven't seen the whole picture, yet. I was also skeptical in the beginning, until I started doing my own research, and stayed with this thread. It took a bit of time for me to realize that this thing isn't going back into the box and anyone can catch it under the right circumstances. Most don't know that it's out in the general population now.
 
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