UNEX Mendelaesque memories

Knoxville's Joker

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The subject keeps coming up of Mendela effects and memories not matching up to reality. We remember stuff one way and the official happenstance differs. I am noticing more and more differing memories of late. Mainly to do with family stuff too of late...

How many do you remember?

Shazaam with Shaq in it and claims from Shaq that he did not do the movie.


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Mandela effect: What Is It, how It works, and more

The Mandela effect is one popular but heavily debated type of false memory. Learn more about it here, including potential causes and some famous examples.
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The Mandela effect is a type of false memory that occurs when many different people incorrectly remember the same thing. It refers to a widespread false memory that Nelson Mandela died in prison in the 1980s.
 
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moldy

Veteran Member
Yes! Issues with Teams data that I swear I entered. Then last week I was quite upset one of the girls I work with was 'no longer with (our company)' according to her boss. Then I saw her online and doing her same job later in the week. Makes me wonder if I'm not losing my mind!
 
kyrsyan

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Knoxville's Joker said:
The subject keeps coming up of Mendela effects and memories not matching up to reality. We remember stuff one way and the official happenstance differs. I am noticing more and more differing memories of late. Mainly to do with family stuff too of late...

How many do you remember?

Shazaam with Shaq in it and claims from Shaq that he did not do the movie.


www.medicalnewstoday.com

Mandela effect: What Is It, how It works, and more

The Mandela effect is one popular but heavily debated type of false memory. Learn more about it here, including potential causes and some famous examples.
www.medicalnewstoday.com www.medicalnewstoday.com

The Mandela effect is a type of false memory that occurs when many different people incorrectly remember the same thing. It refers to a widespread false memory that Nelson Mandela died in prison in the 1980s.
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1996 Comedy. He was in it.
 
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Profit of Doom

Dismember
My boss swore Star Wars originally had “Episode 4” on the original theatrical release. He had it on video to prove it. I told him the first screening did not have that, as Lucas didn’t know if it would ever have more episodes. The second release, video, and TV all had the update, along with upgraded SFX. I remember the little newspaper ad where I worked.
 
Knoxville's Joker

Knoxville's Joker

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Profit of Doom said:
My boss swore Star Wars originally had “Episode 4” on the original theatrical release. He had it on video to prove it. I told him the first screening did not have that, as Lucas didn’t know if it would ever have more episodes. The second release, video, and TV all had the update, along with upgraded SFX. I remember the little newspaper ad where I worked.
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I always remembered it as 4, 5, and 6. He did the middle trilogy and hoped he could do the other two later on.
 
kyrsyan

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Profit of Doom said:
My boss swore Star Wars originally had “Episode 4” on the original theatrical release. He had it on video to prove it. I told him the first screening did not have that, as Lucas didn’t know if it would ever have more episodes. The second release, video, and TV all had the update, along with upgraded SFX. I remember the little newspaper ad where I worked.
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It did. If you find an old VHS tape of it, it will be there.

And the early books had a foreword that mentioned the episodes before Star Wars, naming one of them as the War of Wills. I know because I hunted to see if any book was every released by that title for years in the late 80s, early 90s. I haunted used books stores and specialty book stores looking for it. I finally gave up, thinking it was a script. And the foreword was an attempt to push for it to become a movie.

Unfortunately I don't have any of the VHS tapes anymore. And I doubt I still have the books.
 
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Profit of Doom

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Correct. There was no trilogy produced until there was the initial success. Only those who saw original screening know about the first standalone version. I’m sure Lucas had the other episodes written or at least conceived before the first one was produced
 
Outlaw-16

Outlaw-16

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For years, the little known film 'Time Rider' with Fred Ward and Peter Coyote, had a different ending.

The premise is Ward's character goes off course during a motocross event and ends up in the middle of a secret, time experiment and ends up being transported to 1885 or so. Interesting premise, decent flick, strangely difficult to locate on DVD or Blu Ray for under $20.


I saw it once in a theater and the ending then was not the ending now. Thought for a while I was going a little crazy and no one remembered the theatrical ending. Then it comes out that the original ending, the one shown in theaters, was considered too 'gruesome' or violent or some crap like that and it was reshot to change how it ended. In the theatrical release, Peter Coyote's character was killed by the tail rotor of a helicopter. In the release to video, it was changed to where he was frightened by the helo and ducked down and ran losing face in front of his criminal gang.



However, there is one scene earlier in the film that remains well within the 'effect'. Fred Ward's character, a motocross racer, ends up back in the mid-late 1800s. Yeah, wild. In one scene, he's riding at night and the camera angle in on a campesino sweeping out a chapel and hearing a roar, Ward's motorcycle, and a flash of light, the bike's lights, in the hills. The noise grows louder until Ward rolls up on the guy, decked out in red, riding leathers, full face, tinted helmet, gets off the bike, waves a penlight at the guy and asks directions. The dude sweeping drops dead from a heart attack as its literally El Diablo riding one of the hounds of hell.

That above scene is not to be found, yet myself and others who watched the film in theater, remember it taking place.
 
LoupGarou

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
Outlaw-16 said:
For years, the little known film 'Time Rider' with Fred Ward and Peter Coyote, had a different ending.

The premise is Ward's character goes off course during a motocross event and ends up in the middle of a secret, time experiment and ends up being transported to 1885 or so. Interesting premise, decent flick, strangely difficult to locate on DVD or Blu Ray for under $20.


I saw it once in a theater and the ending then was not the ending now. Thought for a while I was going a little crazy and no one remembered the theatrical ending. Then it comes out that the original ending, the one shown in theaters, was considered too 'gruesome' or violent or some crap like that and it was reshot to change how it ended. In the theatrical release, Peter Coyote's character was killed by the tail rotor of a helicopter. In the release to video, it was changed to where he was frightened by the helo and ducked down and ran losing face in front of his criminal gang.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GqFnSmCObg

I believe this is the ending that you are talking about...
 
Intestinal Fortitude

Intestinal Fortitude

Have Faith
Knoxville's Joker said:
The subject keeps coming up of Mendela effects and memories not matching up to reality. We remember stuff one way and the official happenstance differs. I am noticing more and more differing memories of late. Mainly to do with family stuff too of late...

How many do you remember?

Shazaam with Shaq in it and claims from Shaq that he did not do the movie.


www.medicalnewstoday.com

Mandela effect: What Is It, how It works, and more

The Mandela effect is one popular but heavily debated type of false memory. Learn more about it here, including potential causes and some famous examples.
www.medicalnewstoday.com www.medicalnewstoday.com

The Mandela effect is a type of false memory that occurs when many different people incorrectly remember the same thing. It refers to a widespread false memory that Nelson Mandela died in prison in the 1980s.
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like not remembering setting fires to buses and killing children . . . .
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Because of studio (and even later) editing, I pay very little attention to any Mandala Effects that involve movies and TV shows. They can be interesting, but often, there is more than one version out there. It can be similar to LOGOS, although a few of those are rather interesting.

While we are getting very close to a room discussion, I will say that I pay a lot more attention when a large number of people remember vividly and often with the same story that someone important did or didn't die when they thought they did. The whole thing is named for Mandela, who many people sincerely remember hearing he had died in prison years before he was let out. But there are quite a few other things like that.

There can also be more minor changes that are harder to track but leave feelings of "weird" or small disorientations when people experience them.

I do believe there may be timelines, and I don't think it is impossible that sometimes things bleed over, and I have no trouble believing that it MIGHT be possible for future events to ripple back and affect the past. I'm not saying they do, but they might.

Still, proving either of those concepts is complex, and I find using movies is not a great example. It's like one of my favorites, The Wicker Man. Not only are there at least four or five versions floating around out there, but it is evident that some scenes were filmed that are in the novel but cut from the movie. It can be very easy to be "sure" that scene is in the movie when it turns out it isn't (or not in any of the versions I've seen, anyway). But things lead right up it and then get cut and go elsewhere. In the novel, they happen.

The Death on the TV show may be like the missing hot tub in the hotel Nightwolf, and I went to a convention. Beating all odds, it was the exact same one I had attended "Cons" in during the early 1980s. Everyone at the hotel assured me I was wrong, that there had NEVER been a hot tub; it wasn't even in the plans. Until someone went and asked the 70 Something janitor, who clearly remembered it since one of his jobs was to clean it. Even Nightwolf was wondering if I was confused by the end of things. That story is rather silly, but it shows the problems with human memory of things like that.
 
kyrsyan

kyrsyan

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The thing is, I remember hearing that Mandela died. And I remember hearing that it was a fake report. Back in that time frame. But like anything else, frequently the correction was not as widespread as the original report. And I can see how it would benefit certain interested parties to keep that anger going.

And nowadays, it's easier than you realize for something to be scrubbed off the internet. So I don't even go there for more modern stuff.
 
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Profit of Doom

Dismember
I have thought Deja vu, rather than actually being an event that we remember having happened before and is now repeating itself, could actually be the memory of past event is being created now in such a way that we believe it is historical even thought it never did happen. Or I could be crazy.
 
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