BertaBurtonLake
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It has been reported and cited here in one of the threads that he did indeed have his visa already in place some time before contracting the disease and coming to the US.
EBOLA Meanwhile, back at Thomas Duncan's hovel in Liberia...
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It has been reported and cited here in one of the threads that he did indeed have his visa already in place some time before contracting the disease and coming to the US.
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IMHO he wanted to come to the US due to fear of Ebola. Then when his landlord's daughter got sick, he figured he was probably infected and really wanted to get here, the visa etc was already in place. I wonder when he purchased his ticket (paid for as explained elsewhere by his employer, which is odd).
Also documented somewhere on the original Duncan thread was that he got his visa a few months prior, such visitor visas being good for 12 months. These questions about the travel, the visa, the tickets were asked and answered early on from various news articles.
Louise Troh (the girlfriend and mother of his child) had been to Liberia to visit him back in August as documented at the time on her Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/louise.troh
Here is the original story from October 3rd. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metr...ed-to-dallas-to-marry-mother-of-his-child.ece
Ebola patient moved to Dallas to marry mother of his child
THOMAS ERIC DUNCAN
By AVI SELK
AVI SELK The Dallas Morning News Staff Writer
aselk@dallasnews.com
Published: 03 October 2014 11:14 PM
Updated: 03 October 2014 11:48 PM
Thomas Eric Duncan moved overseas to Dallas to marry the mother of his estranged son, his family has told their church.
Instead, he ended up in an isolation ward as the man who brought Ebola to the United States.
Duncan met Louise Troh in Liberia many years ago, according to the pastor of Troh’s church, Wilshire Baptist in East Dallas.
“They had this child. They had a falling out, and she came to the states,” Wilshire pastor George Mason said Friday.
The son came to the U.S., too, and is now a 19-year-old college student at Angelo State University in San Angelo. Earlier this week, Kasiah Duncan said he had not seen his father since he was 3 years old.
His mother, Troh, joined the church and was baptized this summer. Church officials describe her as the beloved matriarch of an extended family that has been moving to Dallas recently.
Back in Liberia, Duncan had been seeking to join that family.
“The son hasn't really seen his father in many years,” Mason said. “I think ... [Duncan] was seeking reconciliation and hoping they might marry. ... [Troh] was open to that.”
Duncan is believed to have made previous attempts to move, and Troh visited his city, Monrovia, in August, according to her Facebook page.
As fate had it, Duncan didn’t book his ticket until Ebola was ravaging West Africa.
Not long before he flew to Dallas, The New York Times reported, Duncan tried to save a woman dying of Ebola. He helped drive her to the hospital when no ambulance would take her. That’s probably where he caught the deadly virus.
But he never mentioned the incident on a health form at the airport, and he may face criminal charges in Liberia and the United States for lying about his exposure to the virus.
He never told Troh about it either, she has told reporters.
Troh told her story to Mason by phone Thursday from the apartment where Duncan stayed with her and fell ill.
Mason then shared it with his congregation. Wilshire officials say no one from the family has attended church since Duncan arrived, so the congregation is safe from Ebola.
Mason is praying that Troh and Duncan make it through the illness. One day, his church may play host to their wedding.
But for now, no one knows whether Duncan, who remains in serious condition, will survive his illness, and his would-be bride is under quarantine in case she caught it.
“There’s this no man’s land she’s living in right now,” Mason said. “I just assured her that God is with her ... and that we are praying with her. It’s about all we can promise at this point.”
BertaBurtonLake
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My understanding is he was planning to visit family here in the States.
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That has been said. Also read a couple of articles quoting one or more people who knew him in Liberia that he wanted to go to the US due to fear of Ebola and better treatment. The girlfriend he went to meet he had not seen in at least 15 years. It does not appear that they really had much a relationship for a long time. His sister lives in NC. IMHO from mucho reading, he came with the motive to escape from Ebola and fortunately knew people in the US including relatives.
You are correct. See my post above yours when we posted at the same time.
Melodi
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My guess was a fiancee Visa which do take awhile, but I remember reading something like "he had his VISA in hand so he left;" again my understanding is he had live this women for quite a few years a common-law husband/partner and I thought he was the father of one of her children (but I may be mistaken here). In any case if his fiancee is a citizen or permanent resident, she might have applied for his fiancee VISA six months ago or so; those visa are (or used to be) good for six months during which time the couple have to legally marry or the non-resident goes home (or is deported). I had a close friend whose husband came to stay with her for six months in this way; although that was quite a few years ago.
The employer paying IS strange; otherwise I would have thought the fiancee saved her wages and maybe put out the collection plate with the other relatives to raise the money (happens); but we know that isn't the case and it does make you wonder if the guy bought it right then in order to make sure Duncan to the US before he showed any symptoms?
As for nasty things being said about the family for bringing him over, if it was a fiancee Visa it had to have been in the works for months; if it was a tourist visa they also take awhile to get from Africa (it isn't like Europe where it takes less than a week and is good for several years). As far as I can tell neither his lady nor his relatives had a clue that he had been exposed or was sick; reacting as if they are criminals just keeps people from coming forward when the suspect someone in the extended family may be ill; which is exactly what no one wants to see happen.
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Unless you have personally driven for the CEO of a company you won't QUITE understand what they will do for their driver, since the driver tends to do a LOT more than simply drive.
BertaBurtonLake
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Exactly, as I stated earlier in this thread. It is not uncommon for folks at this level to do all sorts of magnanamous things for employees closest to them like drivers, personal assistants, etc.
Songbird7777777
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This story has been out! The girlfriend's church has been helping her out for many years. Duncan was coming here to marry her after a reconciliation. The house the family was moved to belongs to a church member.
This couple is Christians according to the pastor and the church is a large sized church and assisting this couple.
We, also, don't know for a FACT that Duncan knew that woman he helped had Ebola!
I wish people would quit accusing before they know the story. I am sure there is more facts to come out, but, meanwhile the pastor has told some of the story. Enough to stop some of the false accusations and assumptions here.
JKB, Arlington, 11 hours ago
Last week, the Daily Mail had an article with the cab driver that gave rides to the pregnant woman and Mr. Duncan. The cab driver said that she was telling everyone that her illness was related to her pregnancy, so how were they - including Mr. Duncan - supposed to know? If he checked "no" because he believed her and didn't find out before he left that she died of Ebola, one can hardly say he knowingly lied.
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Anguish of U.S. Ebola patient's girlfriend: He came to America to marry her and now she can't even speak to him as he fights for his life in critical condition
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Songbird, are you serious? Duncan gets into a cab to assist a pregnant woman who is in late stage Ebola infection. She is VOMITING, hysterical and spewing precious bodily fluids everywhere. You say that Mr. Duncan who has been watching Ebola explode in Monrovia for the last several months then thinks he hasn't been exposed? The woman DIES a few hours later several days before Duncan flies to Belgium. Duncan then LIES on the health form and says he hasn't been exposed to Ebola.
The man deserves all the contempt he has been shown. The man is a TERRORIST who brought a lethal disease to the USA.
The man deserves all the contempt he has been shown. The man is a TERRORIST who brought a lethal disease to the USA.
Songbird7777777
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Dallas Ebola victim's stepdaughter - who took him to hospital as he was 'vomiting wildly' - is given all clear to return to work as nursing assistant
Youngor Jallah, 35, was called by the CDC on Sunday to say she can go back to work
Ms Jallah was with Thomas Eric Duncan when he was taken to a Dallas hospital. She made him tea, helped him move and was in ambulance with him
She told MailOnline: 'They said I can go back to work but I do not know what I will do. I will not go back yet'
It can take 21 days for a patient to begin to come down with the dreaded disease from the time they first come in contact with a sufferer
But people are not considered infectious if they are not showing symptoms
Mr Duncan, 42, remains in a critical condition and is being given an experimental drug to aid his desperate struggle for life
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...turn-work-nursing-assitant.html#ixzz3FPLXSdXL
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I've read two articles with extensive quotes from one person who knew him in Liberia who stated emphatically that Duncan wanted to go to US because they had better treatment facilities for Ebola.
IMHO from reading a lot (and I hope comprehending some of what I read), he was going to patch up the relationship with Troh (I had not known until today she had visited him in LIberia in August but stand corrected on that score), AND due to fear of Ebola. And once he associated with the sick woman, who also lived in the same dwelling (so it wasn't just carrying her that likely exposed him to Ebola), he most likely realized he probably had it. I wouldn't call him a terrorist; I'd call him a desperate man.
Songbird7777777
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I have read a couple of comments over the past few days that Duncan thought the health issue with the pregnant woman was related to her pregnancy. Yeah, other people said! How do we know they aren't lying. I will wait for the facts before I assume and falsely accuse and help to spread rumors!
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A person Duncan knew in Liberia who said Duncan knew he may have been infected and wanted better medical care in the US is no more or less trustworthy than any other person quoted. I am not accusing anyone, just stating what I read, and my POV about what I read. It's okay, you are free to do that do, no need to say I am making false accusations.
One of the articles I read said they had not had any ebola in their little area and the pregnant woman rarely left home due to her condition. The neighbor said they thought the convulsions and stomach pain were due to her pregnancy. The cab driver asked about the blood at the corner of her mouth and her parents said she had bitten her tongue during a convulsion.
It was believed that a cousin had infected the preg woman when she came to visit her. It's all sad.
It was believed that a cousin had infected the preg woman when she came to visit her. It's all sad.
I don't think a lot of infected people will make it here on purpose through our border. By the time most know they are infected, they aren't in much shape to make the trip from what I understand. I CAN see the possibility of terrorist types going to those countries, purposefully getting infected, and come here during the incubation period with the plan to come in contact with as many Americans as possible after they begin to feel ill.
Songbird7777777
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You are correct in saying one is not more trustworthy than another, but, we don't have a lot of the facts here, but, assumptions and false accusations and I will wait until more facts come out. I didn't mean to accuse YOU of falsely accusing. It is just that so many here are so quick to make judgments on assumptions and rumors. It gets real old!
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I read that a couple of places on the Internet over a couple of days.