EBOLA Meanwhile, back at Thomas Duncan's hovel in Liberia...

Betty_Rose

Veteran Member
In addition to Duncan, nine others who "had contact" with the infamous pregnant woman are now dying.

Gosh, I thought this disease was much harder to catch than this!

It's articles like this that really do give me the willies. We're being told it is "not easy" to catch Ebola and that it can be contained here in the US, but this article describes Ebola as "highly contagious."

Where's the truth when you need it? :/


http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/06/health/ebola-liberia/index.html

Monrovia, Liberia (CNN) -- His home in Monrovia is just as he left it when he boarded the plane to the United States.

A tiny tin-roofed room in a run-down building that's now the focal point of so much of the paranoia ricocheting across the world.

But while the United States struggles to contain the fear stirred up by Thomas Eric Duncan's diagnosis in Dallas, here there's a different concern. Here, they are struggling to come to terms with the mounting death toll of all those who -- like Duncan -- came in contact with the pregnant woman who gave him Ebola.

Already nine others are dead or dying. All the neighbors have been put quarantined.

And local officials are trying to get in touch with everyone who may have interacted with the pregnant woman, Marthalene Williams.

That number?

"Right now, according to statistics that we got, close to 100," says Pewo Wolobah from the local Ebola task force.

Marthalene Williams was in her seventh month of pregnancy when she collapsed.


"We've been through this over and over," Wolobah says. "We tell the people no matter how much you love the person. It is the health authority that is responsible to pick up the sick."

But none of them knew Williams had Ebola, Tete says.

Both of Williams' parents have tested positive for Ebola.

Another woman who also ran to Williams' side was rushed to a hospital days later. Soon afterward, a neighbor was tasked with he difficult task of telling her 9-year-old daughter that mom is never coming home.

And Duncan lies in a hospital bed in Dallas, critically ill.

All of them contracted Ebola trying to do good. Helping Williams was the right thing to do -- the right thing with devastating consequences.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
yeah, that's either a lot of non casual contact w/ a dying pregnant women or ebola is transmitted via casual contact

and my money is on spreading via casual contact
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
In addition to Duncan, nine others who "had contact" with the infamous pregnant woman are now dying.

Gosh, I thought this disease was much harder to catch than this!

It's articles like this that really do give me the willies. We're being told it is "not easy" to catch Ebola and that it can be contained here in the US, but this article describes Ebola as "highly contagious."

Where's the truth when you need it? :/


http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/06/health/ebola-liberia/index.html

Monrovia, Liberia (CNN) -- His home in Monrovia is just as he left it when he boarded the plane to the United States.

A tiny tin-roofed room in a run-down building that's now the focal point of so much of the paranoia ricocheting across the world.

But while the United States struggles to contain the fear stirred up by Thomas Eric Duncan's diagnosis in Dallas, here there's a different concern. Here, they are struggling to come to terms with the mounting death toll of all those who -- like Duncan -- came in contact with the pregnant woman who gave him Ebola.

Already nine others are dead or dying. All the neighbors have been put quarantined.

And local officials are trying to get in touch with everyone who may have interacted with the pregnant woman, Marthalene Williams.

That number?

"Right now, according to statistics that we got, close to 100," says Pewo Wolobah from the local Ebola task force.

Marthalene Williams was in her seventh month of pregnancy when she collapsed.


"We've been through this over and over," Wolobah says. "We tell the people no matter how much you love the person. It is the health authority that is responsible to pick up the sick."

But none of them knew Williams had Ebola, Tete says.

Both of Williams' parents have tested positive for Ebola.

Another woman who also ran to Williams' side was rushed to a hospital days later. Soon afterward, a neighbor was tasked with he difficult task of telling her 9-year-old daughter that mom is never coming home.

And Duncan lies in a hospital bed in Dallas, critically ill.

All of them contracted Ebola trying to do good. Helping Williams was the right thing to do -- the right thing with devastating consequences.


bump

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

It will get nary a peep in the MSM.
 

Zulu Cowboy

Keep It Real...
This beast doesn't care about good intentions. You cross paths without the proper protection...you die.
Zulu Cowboy
 

TimeTraveler

Veteran Member
"A tiny tin-roofed room in a run-down building"

Doesn't sound like a World traveler to me. Where the hell did the money for his plane ticket come from?
 

Zulu Cowboy

Keep It Real...
"A tiny tin-roofed room in a run-down building"

Doesn't sound like a World traveler to me. Where the hell did the money for his plane ticket come from?

I said the exact same thing to my wife yesterday. I wonder how much it costs to catch a flight from Africa to Brussels/Washington DC/DFW?
Just saying'...
:shr:
Zulu
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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But in the meantime, Louise Troh's daughter- who "helped support him to sit up in bed, by touching his back" and "wrapped a blanket around him"- a blanket that the EMT's wouldn't allow in the ambulance, so the daughter "held it in her arms and took it to the ER"... has been declared "low risk" and her husband has been allowed to go back to work as a NURSING ASSISTANT in a nursing home?!!

Tell me again which country is the most backward and ignorant?!

Summerthyme
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
But while the United States struggles to contain the fear stirred up by Thomas Eric Duncan's diagnosis in Dallas,.....

too bad they aren't trying to contain the virus

if they would contain the virus the fear would be eliminated

but instead they focus only on containing fear
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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"A tiny tin-roofed room in a run-down building"

Doesn't sound like a World traveler to me. Where the hell did the money for his plane ticket come from?

Duncan was employed as the driver for the head of the main delivery subcontractor for Fedex in Liberia. According to Duncan's travel itinerary released anonymously by a United Airlines ticketing agent, the ticket was purchased by his employer.
 

iboya

Veteran Member
I said the exact same thing to my wife yesterday. I wonder how much it costs to catch a flight from Africa to Brussels/Washington DC/DFW?
Just saying'...
:shr:
Zulu
Here is the correct price $3,381
Monrovia/Brussels/Dallas
http://www.tripadvisor.com/CheapFli...020&time0=0024&date1=20141027&time1=0024&cr=0
$3,381
BudgetAir $3,381
Vayama $3,381
Multiple Airlines
ROB 8:40p
2 stops
DFW 6:47p +1
27h 7m
DFW 10:55p
3 stops
ROB 1:55a +3
46h 0m
American operates flight #80

****

Correction the below is from Liberia Costa Rica
Today Search
http://flights.expedia.com/flights-from-liberia-to-dallas-lir-to-dfw/
Depart 10/20/14
Expedia
Cheapest
12:30p
LIR
Liberia
9:22p
DAL
Dallas
7h 52m, 1 stop
IAH
$856 .35
roundtrip per person

United 4187 operated by EXPRESSJET AIRLINES DBA UNITED EXP
*****
Monrovia to DFW
http://www.flights.com/flights/monrovia-rob-to-dallas-dfw/
 
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Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Several observations: like TimeTraveler, I wonder how the 'ell Duncam could've afforded the airfare. Transatlantic travel from Africa is hugely expensive. I watched the CNN clip of his home, a rented room in a tin-roofed hovel. When I lived in southern Africa, I saw countless clones of this type of housing and I was never anywhere near Liberia. It's as if the malevolent gods of the Dark Continent sent down simple plans, corrugated tin and cinder blocks and commanded "This, African people, is your housing!"

To be sure, in all countries there are some wealthier Africans, but they first thing they do when they get a bit of extra cash is move into better homes. I lived in Africa for nearly four years and knew countless Africans. I never met one who lived in this type of housing who had the proverbial pot to piss in. Another thing to consider is that Duncan could not have arrived on a one way ticket. It is virtually a universal requirement around the globe that travelers are not admitted into any country unless they have a return ticket. This is so that the host country is not saddled with the bill to fly them out! Again, more expense.

There has to be a very interesting back story as to how this man acquired a round-trip transatlantic airfare. Sure, it's entirely possible that wealthier relatives sent it to him...or it's possible that other forces/agencies were in play. We should all want to know these answers and the news media should be digging out the facts!

Best regards
Doc
 

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Looks like Old Duncan made on the deal. All he had to do was hold on and not show any visible symptoms until he was safe in the good old USA, where he is assured to get the best western medicle treatment. Duncan was no fool. We are the fools!
 

knepper

Veteran Member
Where the hell did the money for his plane ticket come from?

Well we know that the Obola Regime gave assistance to all those Mexican and Central American undocumented Democrats who wanted to cross over that line we used to quaintly refer to as a border. It's not outside the realm of possibilities...
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
absolutely the stupidest aspect of the whole incident is the freaking relatives in TX .... they obviously sent the ticket money .... they basically invite a plague not only into the country but their own home ... when he starts puking his guts out in the front yard it's - oooooooooooeeeeeeeee ...

that TX neighborhood should burn those a-holes relatives out and pack their collective azzes back to the Ebola Empire ...
 

Betty_Rose

Veteran Member
"A tiny tin-roofed room in a run-down building"

Doesn't sound like a World traveler to me. Where the hell did the money for his plane ticket come from?

That's a very good question. Did you see the images with the link?

It really is a tin-roofed hovel, and it looks like the guy couldn't find $20 US if his life depended on it...

BTW, that $858 ticket mentioned above sounds like a deal. I was looking at flights to France and they were running almost double that.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Duncan was employed as the driver for the head of the main delivery subcontractor for Fedex in Liberia. According to Duncan's travel itinerary released anonymously by a United Airlines ticketing agent, the ticket was purchased by his employer.

Wow, that is very interesting. AND he had quit his job without any notice, very abruptly, I've read in a couple of places. My speculation is he knew he had gotten infected and his company wanted to get him to a place with better treatment.
 

Michigan Majik

FreeSpirit, with attitude
My co-worker who is from Ghana (she's now an American citizen) has worked an average of 70 hours per week for almost two years to save money to visit her home in Ghana. She said a round trip ticket is almost $4,000. She is leaving at the end of the week to visit for three weeks.
I told her now is not the best time to go. She says it will be fine.... :(
 

Betty_Rose

Veteran Member
A big church in our community is still sending missionaries by the DOZENS into different African countries.

Leaves me shaking my head.
 

Betty_Rose

Veteran Member
Wow, that is very interesting. AND he had quit his job without any notice, very abruptly, I've read in a couple of places. My speculation is he knew he had gotten infected and his company wanted to get him to a place with better treatment.

That must be some company he worked for if they give him a $3,000+ ticket AFTER he quits abruptly!

Was he CEO or what?

Typically, underlings in impoverished countries aren't given free money, especially after they quit!
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
It seems multiple messages are being sent out. A conspiracy nut might think the CDC being a branch of the government continuing to minimize the ebola threat might be following a script that wants more people to expose themselves.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Gosh, I thought this disease was much harder to catch than this!

Pretty simple. Most foreign officials from Africa are telling the truth about this as their is no way to deny it before their people as they see others dropping before their own eyes. American officials, if their mouths are open they are lying. Behind the scenes they are worried as well but job #1 from the top on down is to keep the people buffaloed and ignorant. They will maintain the facade of all is well until it can't be hidden anymore.
 

Be Well

may all be well
That must be some company he worked for if they give him a $3,000+ ticket AFTER he quits abruptly!

Was he CEO or what?

Typically, underlings in impoverished countries aren't given free money, especially after they quit!

It is very interesting and not at all usual or likely. Maybe some entity funneled the $ into the company and had them purchase the ticket. IMHO it is very unlikely that his supposed girlfriend (whom he had not seen in many years) or her children would have either a motive or the funds to do pay for his ticket. They are (or were?) all low paid home health care aides.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
too bad they aren't trying to contain the virus

if they would contain the virus the fear would be eliminated

but instead they focus only on containing fear


Best summation I've seen.

OUGHT to be put up on a bumper sticker, posted on EVERY twittter and facebook site, and made to "trend" across the nation
 

hypoluxo

Veteran Lurker
"A tiny tin-roofed room in a run-down building"

Doesn't sound like a World traveler to me. Where the hell did the money for his plane ticket come from?

Indeed. Who bought his ticket and sent him to the U.S.?

A visa is required to travel from Liberia to the U.S. Based on this, it is not a quick process. How did he pay for the visa, and how quickly was it given to him?
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
I can tell you that Fed Ex Did not pay for that ticket. Hubby and I used to work for them and they don't let go of a penny! Not even to get a better grip!
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
the last i read was duncan helped his landlord get his sick pregnant daughter to the hospital and the date was the 15th. this article did not mention a date for that event (unless i missed it). he leaves on the 19th and arrives on the 20th. starts feeling ill enough to go to the emergency room on the 24th and after close to 4 hrs was sent home. then got really sick on the 28th and an ambulance was called.

so if the 15th is correct for contact, it took 9 days for some bad symptoms to appear, fever, nausea, vomiting. i remember reading after leaving the emergency room he went to a pharmacy to get his script then a convenience store where he vomited.

im still looking for louise troh, the girlfriend. cant find anything current about her or a current interview or how she and the other 4 are doing. its been about 12-13 days now since their exposure to duncan when he started having some bad symptoms.

i did a search this am and found nothing past oct 3, nothing since the move by the stupid judge. have you guys found anything? there are mentions of her, mentions of talking with her, her pastor wanting to visit her, but nothing real since the move.

im thinking they have symptoms and are kept hidden so the public wont know. and i cant believe the daughter and her husband and kids are now free to leave quarantine after her touching him, helping him, holding his blanket, the kids spending the night there with duncan spewing virus......

im very surprised the press isnt shouting 'Wheres Louise?"

anyone seen an interview dated after the move or about her condition?
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
countrymouse, if any of my posts from this are bumpersticker worthy, imo, it is

bush lied and put troops in harm's way

obama lies and puts north america in harm's way




pyrate princess liked 'world' better

but we need americans piping mad demanding something be done properly not the world
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
I can tell you that Fed Ex Did not pay for that ticket. Hubby and I used to work for them and they don't let go of a penny! Not even to get a better grip!



it's the lie the TX family is using to reflect blame away from themselves ..... would you be admitting you brought the plague into the country ....
 

Be Well

may all be well
it's the lie the TX family is using to reflect blame away from themselves ..... would you be admitting you brought the plague into the country ....

I don't think so. Kris said the anonymous United Airlines ticket agent leaked the info along with Duncan's itinerary. Duncan's "family" - former gf and her kids that aren't related to Duncan - are home health aides; they make very little $. Someone/something else paid for him to get here.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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When did FEDEX start paying employees vacation travel ?

Re-read what I wrote please. (now corrected below with correct names)

"Duncan was employed as the driver for the head of the main delivery subcontractor for UPS (not FedEx) in Liberia.

The local Liberian subcontractor to UPS (not FedEx) who I believe is "Safeway Transport" or something like that (really Silson Global Business Liberia Ltd) is the one who purchased the ticket. Duncan was employed by the head of Silson to be his driver. The head of Silson apparently is the one who bought the ticket. The image of the paid itinerary is posted somewhere on one of the Ebola threads. It was posted within a couple of days of finding out about Duncan.


Edit for corrections...close but I confused FedEx with UPS.....and Safeway Transport is really Silson Global Business Liberia Ltd. My apologies. I found the original references and it is linked here: http://gotnews.com/exclusive-gotnews-com-leaked-flight-info-ebola-dallas-patient/ and here http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...-IN-TEXAS-FIRST-IN-USA!&p=5368905#post5368905
 

SAPPHIRE

Veteran Member
H--E--DOUBLE TOOTHPICKS!!!! WE LIVE IN A SHOEBOX AND PAY MUCHO MORE THAN $20 A MONTH...............AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A VACATION IN OVER 13 Years.........how the blankety-blank did this guy get here??????

nothing adds up sensibly so IMO..........someone OFFICIALLY granted him access/money/visa/passes/free ride to kick off this ebolathon................send the perps to Liberia and let them live in Duncan's neighborhood....maybe they'd get an eyeful and bellyful as well................
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I'm gonna copy and paste this REAL SLOW and in BIG COLORED LETTERS for you folk who seem to have either missed it or ignored it the first (and second) time Kris posted it.

"Duncan was employed as the driver for the head of the main delivery subcontractor for UPS (not FedEx) in Liberia.

The local Liberian subcontractor to UPS (not FedEx) who I believe is "Safeway Transport" or something like that (really Silson Global Business Liberia Ltd) is the one who purchased the ticket. Duncan was employed by the head of Silson to be his driver. The head of Silson apparently is the one who bought the ticket. The image of the paid itinerary is posted somewhere on one of the Ebola threads. It was posted within a couple of days of finding out about Duncan.

Therein lies the answer to at least 15 posts above. repetitive posts at that.
 
I'm gonna copy and paste this REAL SLOW and in BIG COLORED LETTERS for you folk who seem to have either missed it or ignored it the first (and second) time Kris posted it.

"Duncan was employed as the driver for the head of the main delivery subcontractor for UPS (not FedEx) in Liberia.

The local Liberian subcontractor to UPS (not FedEx) who I believe is "Safeway Transport" or something like that (really Silson Global Business Liberia Ltd) is the one who purchased the ticket. Duncan was employed by the head of Silson to be his driver. The head of Silson apparently is the one who bought the ticket. The image of the paid itinerary is posted somewhere on one of the Ebola threads. It was posted within a couple of days of finding out about Duncan.

Therein lies the answer to at least 15 posts above. repetitive posts at that.

In other words, his employer (an INDIVIDUAL, not a company) bought his ticket for him and YES, there are magnanamous employers who do things like this for their employees.
 

knepper

Veteran Member
Since visas take time to arrange, and the disease came upon Duncan suddenly, then we can assume that the ticket was given to him, for whatever reason, long before Ebola was in the picture. Perhaps he speeded up his travel plans once he knew he had it.
 

Mprepared

Veteran Member
the last i read was duncan helped his landlord get his sick pregnant daughter to the hospital and the date was the 15th. this article did not mention a date for that event (unless i missed it). he leaves on the 19th and arrives on the 20th. starts feeling ill enough to go to the emergency room on the 24th and after close to 4 hrs was sent home. then got really sick on the 28th and an ambulance was called.

so if the 15th is correct for contact, it took 9 days for some bad symptoms to appear, fever, nausea, vomiting. i remember reading after leaving the emergency room he went to a pharmacy to get his script then a convenience store where he vomited.

im still looking for louise troh, the girlfriend. cant find anything current about her or a current interview or how she and the other 4 are doing. its been about 12-13 days now since their exposure to duncan when he started having some bad symptoms.

i did a search this am and found nothing past oct 3, nothing since the move by the stupid judge. have you guys found anything? there are mentions of her, mentions of talking with her, her pastor wanting to visit her, but nothing real since the move.

im thinking they have symptoms and are kept hidden so the public wont know. and i cant believe the daughter and her husband and kids are now free to leave quarantine after her touching him, helping him, holding his blanket, the kids spending the night there with duncan spewing virus......

im very surprised the press isnt shouting 'Wheres Louise?"

anyone seen an interview dated after the move or about her condition?

I come here over and over looking for that same news each day and other places. To me this is more important if Duncan dies or not. Where is Louise?
 
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