Weather Massive El Niño is now 'too big to fail,' scientist says

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Massive El Niño is now 'too big to fail,' scientist says
Rong-Gong Lin II
October 9, 2015, 7:43 AM

An El Niño that is among the strongest on record is gaining strength in the Pacific Ocean, and climate scientists say California is likely to face a wet winter.

“There’s no longer a possibility that El Niño wimps out at this point. It’s too big to fail,” said Bill Patzert, climatologist for NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Cañada Flintridge.

“And the winter over North America is definitely not going to be normal,” he said.

Just three weeks ago, the National Weather Service’s Climate Prediction Center raised the odds of California getting doused with a wetter-than-average winter. Southern California now has more than a 60% chance of a wet winter, a 33% chance of a normal winter and less than a 7% chance of a dry winter.

The odds of a wet winter further north are increasing too. San Francisco has more than a 40% chance of a wet winter, 33% chance of a normal winter and less than a 27% chance of a dry winter.

Scientists know that El Niño is getting stronger because of rising sea-level ocean temperatures in the Pacific west of Peru, and a change in directions of the wind along the equator that allow warm waters to surge toward the Americas.

“The trade winds are weakening yet again. That should strengthen this El Niño,” Patzert said.

Those factors can cause a dramatic change of patterns in the atmosphere, and can take winter storms that normally pour rain on the jungles of southern Mexico and Central America and move them over California and the southern United States.

“The ocean has warmed up a little bit more. ... It’s certainly still a strong event,” said Mike Halpert, deputy director of the Climate Prediction Center. Halpert said this El Niño still isn’t quite as strong as the current record holder, the El Niño that developed in 1997, but it’s “still respectable. Probably the second strongest we’ve seen at this time of year.”

“We certainly favor a wetter-than-average winter,” Halpert said. Though he cautioned that “when you’re dealing with climate predictions, you can never get a guarantee,” he added, “this could be one of the types of winters like in 1997-98.”

That winter was dramatic for California. Heavy rains came to Orange County in December 1997, dropping an astonishing 7 inches of rain in some parts of the region, flooding mobile home parks in Huntington Beach and forcing crews to use inflatable boats to make rescues, while mudslides destroyed hillside homes.

El Niño rains started in Los Angeles County in January 1998, and were the worst across the region in February. Downtown L.A. got about a year’s worth of rain in February alone. Two California Highway Patrol officers died in San Luis Obispo County after their car fell into a massive sinkhole, and devastating mudslides plowed into hillside homes in Laguna Beach, killing residents. More than half a billion dollars in damage was reported in California, and 17 people died.

El Niño is a relatively newly studied phenomenon. Halpert said the 1982-83 El Niño, the second-strongest on record, came as a shock, with few prepared for it. But there was warning about the 1997-98 El Niño, and Halpert said he hopes people in California are preparing for the prospect of a damaging wet winter now.

“Hopefully, the fact that this has been well-advertised, folks are preparing now for what could be a very wet-type winter,” Halpert said.

Patzert, the climatologist for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said “it’s fair to say” that the current El Niño will be similar to the strongest two El Niños on record.

“If you look at the really big El Niños, that’s ’82-’83 and ’97-’98, essentially the whole state got hosed, from north to south,” Patzert said. “For instance, Northern California, Sacramento, got almost double the rainfall, and we certainly got double here in L.A.”

Patzert said satellite images of the Pacific Ocean showing the height of seawater -- a reflection of how warm the water is -- show an enormous area at a higher temperature, an area of the ocean that is larger than it was at this time in 1997.

It is so big, Patzert said, that even if ocean temperatures were to start dropping now, El Niño would still have a significant impact on this winter’s rains.

Patzert said Southern California and the rest of the southern U.S., all the way to Florida, can expect a very wet winter, while it should be relatively mild in the upper part of the United States, including New England, a dramatic contrast to the intense snowfall Boston received last winter.

But Patzert issued a note of warning to Californians: Don’t think this El Niño spells the end of this state’s punishing four-year drought.

The last record El Niño that ended in 1998 was quickly followed by the arrival of El Niño’s dry sister, La Niña.

“Thinking ahead one year, could we be whiplashed from deluge back to drought again?” Patzert said. “Because remember, La Niña is the diva of drought.”

Patzert said that in the last 140 years in California, seven out of every 10 years are dry, so it would be foolish to declare an end to water conservation during this winter’s rains.

“This is no time to celebrate and backtrack on our water-saving habits that we’ve developed recently,” Patzert said. “Because conservation is going to be our new lifestyle. Our new normal.”
 

MataPam

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Isn't that what they were saying last year? I'll believe it when the Sierras are measuring snow pack in the double digits. Feet, not inches.
 

marsh

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This is why we need reservoirs to level out the water available over years. Unfortunately, the endangered species act has over-ridden common sense and they are trying to optimize maximum fish flow conditions every year.

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El Niño now among strongest in modern history; unusually warm and unsettled conditions persist in California
Filed in Uncategorized by Daniel Swain on October 8, 2015 • 484 Comments

All-time record warmth despite Southern California rain

It has been a relentlessly warm year across essentially all of California.
California is experiencing its record warmest year-to-date. (NCDC)

California is experiencing its record warmest year-to-date. (NCDC)

Not only is 2015 California’s warmest year on record to date (beating the previous record set all the way back in 2014), but the details of the persistently elevated temperatures have been particularly oppressive. Heatwaves have been a frequent occurrence throughout the state this summer and now continuing into early autumn, but it’s not just afternoon highs that have been stifling: overnight minimum temperatures, buoyed by the incredible warmth of the nearshore Pacific waters, have been far above their typical levels. This has been especially true in Southern California, where water temperatures as high as 80 F (!) have essentially shut off the natural ocean “air conditioner.”

Extremely warm ocean temperatures have also interacted with an unusually high number of atmospheric disturbances to bring highly anomalous warm season precipitation to Southern California. Some of these disturbances have been tropical in nature (most memorably, the remnants of Hurricane Dolores back in July), but more recently the culprit has been a series of erratic and slow-moving cut-off lows.
Much of Southern California saw an impressively wet summer. (WRCC)

Much of Southern California saw an impressively wet summer. NorCal has not fared as well. (WRCC)

Overnight temperatures have been astonishingly warm in recent weeks, especially in Southern California. (WRCC)

These systems have provided the large-scale conditions necessary for the formation of widespread showers and thunderstorms—not just in the typical mountain and desert regions—and the record-warm ocean has added a large amount of extra moisture into the atmosphere (which is likely a substantial factor in the numerous rainfall records set this summer).

Unfortunately, these out-of-season rains have not extended to Northern California, which has been left largely dry (and very warm), and extreme fire risk persists. It’s important to keep in mind, however, that mostly dry (and often warm) conditions are pretty typical in the region at least through the middle of October.

Cut-off low to make a return visit to California

In an impressively circuitous turn of events, the very same cutoff low that brought strong winds to Northern California and thunderstorms to Southern California last week will swing back toward the state in the coming days. Cut-off lows—so named because their center of circulation is “cut off” from the prevailing west-to-east winds that characterize the mid-latitudes—tend to exhibit erratic trajectories and can be notoriously tricky to forecast in advance. The unusual track of the incoming low—originally from the northwest, but now from the east or even southeast—is no exception, which makes the eventual impacts of the low’s return visit subject to considerable uncertainty.

It does appear that this low will eventually bring some precipitation once again in at least Southern California, and perhaps parts Northern California as well. Details are vague at this early juncture, but it does appear likely that this system will pick up some additional subtropical moisture sometime next week before interacting with an eastward-moving trough over the North Pacific. Showers—and perhaps thunderstorms—could again affect a pretty wide swath of the Golden State next week. There is some concern—especially given the lack of recent rainfall in the north—that convective activity associated with this system could lead to new wildfire starts. While it’s still too early to say for sure, this possibility serves as an important reminder that conditions are still extremely dry across most of California, and wildfire season is definitely not over yet. gfs_z500a_sd_wus_19

The unusual regional atmospheric circulation pattern allowing the cut-off to loop around the Southwest will also bring another prolonged period of southeasterly winds to much of California, bringing yet more warmth and humidity to the southern 2/3 of the state over the coming week. Anomalous warmth will likely extend across most of California, but the Los Angeles and San Diego areas will be most strongly affected.

Hurricane Oho taking a remarkable northward track

Central Pacific Hurricane Oho is making a virtually unprecedented northward beeline for the Gulf of Alaska. After weakening from a category 2 storm, Oho is expected to slowly transition into an extratropical (non warm-core) system as it accelerates northward in the coming days. Very impressively, it appears likely that Oho will retain some tropical characteristics (and perhaps hurricane strength winds) as far north as San Francisco (but out over the open ocean well to the west of California). While Oho will not bring any noticeable impacts to California (aside from some unusual surf conditions), it may bring very heavy precipitation and powerful near hurricane-force winds to parts of southeastern Alaska and far northern British Columbia, where it will make landfall this weekend.

El Niño already top-3 event in modern history; further strengthening still expected
The 2015-2016 El Niño is already the third strongest on record. (NOAA via Daniel Swain)

I actually don’t have all that much to update on the El Niño front at the moment, since everything’s still on track for a very strong event during the coming winter. In fact, the most recently observational data now clearly indicates that the present event is already comparable in magnitude to both the 1982-1983 and 1997-1998 events, which were the strongest in the long-term record. North American and international forecast models continue to project further strengthening of warm topical Pacific Ocean temperature anomalies for another 1-3 months, with peak magnitude arriving sometime during Northern Hemisphere winter.

California impacts—in the form of wetter-than-average conditions–are still expected to be greatest during the core rainy season months of January-March (and perhaps also December), which means that we shouldn’t necessarily expect to see wetter than average conditions in October and November. It does, however, look very warm over the next couple of months, which virtually assures that 2015 will become California’s warmest year on record.
The latest multi-model ensemble plume shows that El Niño is not yet done strengthening. (CPC)

The latest multi-model ensemble plume shows that El Niño is not yet done strengthening. (CPC)
 

WildDaisy

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The problem is that the water will be falling on the valleys as well as the mountains onto rock hard soil. It will not soak in right away, and cause massive, massive flooding.

This is why the snow is so important. As it melts, it gradually comes down the mountain and fills the reservoirs. But when it rains all over after a long drought, it doesn't fill the reservoirs at all.
 

Be Well

may all be well
The problem is that the water will be falling on the valleys as well as the mountains onto rock hard soil. It will not soak in right away, and cause massive, massive flooding.

This is why the snow is so important. As it melts, it gradually comes down the mountain and fills the reservoirs. But when it rains all over after a long drought, it doesn't fill the reservoirs at all.

Plus all the burned square miles, baked hard by fire and vegetation burned up. Hillsides fall off in heavy rains.
 
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