ALERT Major storable food supplier Augason Farms ceases operations for 90 days, citing collapsing supply chain

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TidesofTruth

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My advice. Go to basics. Don't go to your suppliers and whine over the holes. Find what is available and adjust your desires accordingly. Powdered eggs. Powdered Milk. Tuna Pouches. Chicken Pouches. Are all long term storable items and are available at the current time. So what if you can't get that Stroganoff or 4 course self heating meal. You might be just glad you had Raman.
 
Shooter

Shooter

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this is a big old dot, the kind you have to drive across to see the other side;

BUT,, MABYE, JUST A THOUGHT.

could someone in the Govnt. have somehow ordered them to sell them the next 90 days supply of food?
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Thank you for the heads up, read this earlier and made a dash to Sam's, WM, Aldi, and Fareway to top off. Mostly what we got were dried goods as in laundry soap, dawn, trash bags, and the like, so did our quarterly shopping a month and a half earlier than we typically do. I'll go over to the shortages threads and tell y'all about the holes I saw while out this afternoon.
 
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psychgirl

psychgirl

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packyderms_wife said:
Thank you for the heads up, read this earlier and made a dash to Sam's, WM, Aldi, and Fareway to top off. Mostly what we got were dried goods as in laundry soap, dawn, trash bags, and the like, so did our quarterly shopping a month and a half earlier than we typically do. I'll go over to the shortages threads and tell y'all about the wholes I saw while out this afternoon.
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I DESPISE spending the amount of money it takes, on those items.... it truly lights my a** on fire. The same money I could be using for food, on that stuff truly annoys me.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
psychgirl said:
I DESPISE spending the amount of money it takes, on those items.... it truly lights my a** on fire. The same money I could be using for food, on that stuff truly annoys me.
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Same here, and we didn't buy anything fancy and spent about $229, and that was just at Sam's. I barely had three bags of food from Aldi and that cost us $48, sigh.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Meemur said:
So glad you did that! Others from out of the area, including Minnesota, have been traveling to our area and buying what they can.
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Yeah, I noticed the Sam's parking lot had lots of out of state vehicles with small trailers attached to them, so I'm assuming that they are hitting all of the stores along I35 and are stocking up. If mass panic hits we can stay home and out of everyone's way. Limit of one on both TP and PT at Sam's.
 
Meemur

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
psychgirl said:
Oh, and spitting.
Cussing crying and spittin
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Maybe this will help. You need to balance "household products" with your time. Yes, you can save a ton of money making your own cleaners, reusing trash bags, and simply doing less, but do you really want to live like that?

I don't, nor do I want to spend an entire afternoon trying to get the kitchen degreased with crappy homemade stuff. There are other ways to save money: janitor supply house, bulk buys at Sam's, bulk buys at Lowe's . . . don't want to drift too much here, but if you put your thinking cap on do some research, you might find some answers that make sense for your situation.

Life is too short to be so angry and upset. Hope you can get away from the Internet tomorrow and spend some time walking in the woods!
 
psychgirl

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Meemur said:
Maybe this will help. You need to balance "household products" with your time. Yes, you can save a ton of money making your own cleaners, reusing trash bags, and simply doing less, but do you really want to live like that?

I don't, nor do I want to spend an entire afternoon trying to get the kitchen degreased with crappy homemade stuff. There are other ways to save money: janitor supply house, bulk buys at Sam's, bulk buys at Lowe's . . . don't want to drift too much here, but if you put your thinking cap on do some research, you might find some answers that make sense for your situation.

Life is too short to be so angry and upset. Hope you can get away from the Internet tomorrow and spend some time walking in the woods!
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Good advice but I’m not “angry in general” lol!
I just don’t like spending money on that stuff !
But also like you said, it’s a ways of time using “crappy home made stuff” too, because I’ve gone that route and it’s never as good.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
We're definitely no where a "10" imho.
When it's a ten the shelves will be bare and big men with bigger guns would take whatever you found anyway....
but, it's on par or worse than 2008, i'd say.
psychgirl said:
Over the years of reading warnings, scary articles, economic fluctuations, and dire predictions, who, here, feels like the current state of affairs is definitely the worst?
On a scale of 5-10, is this one a 10?...9?...
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LoupGarou

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
psychgirl said:
Over the years of reading warnings, scary articles, economic fluctuations, and dire predictions, who, here, feels like the current state of affairs is definitely the worst?
On a scale of 5-10, is this one a 10?...9?...
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Considering the fact that a lot of wars start when one or more countries don't have the "consumables" (Food, Fuel, Power, and other supplies) to make it through the next few months, ESPECIALLY at the start of winter... And considering that NUMEROUS countries in the Northern Hemisphere are already talking about having food and/or grid power issues... And considering that shipping those "consumables" right now has become a bad game of chance... And considering the sheer number of places that either have "holes on the shelves", or "We aren't going to be getting that back in for a while" messages, or that the price has doubled if they do have certain things... Yes, it's bad. Now throw in most countries are trying some level of lockdown on it's civilians, including the use of their military in the aid of both the lockdowns as well as the control aspects of all of the other mandates and demands, AND at the same time are also practicing landing military planes on their highways around the country, and you really start pushing a 7-10 or higher.

When whatever "go" signal happens, you can bet your bottom dollar (and all of the other ones you ever had), that they will be unleashing every last drop of "hell on earth" that they can, including BLM, Antifa, Anarchists, Socialists, Commies, Illegals, Gang members, Drug cartel, and whoever else would fight to bring down the US. A LOT of countries and other groups want the US out of the picture and off the global stage. Drop the US Dollar from the world's reserve currency group, stop sending anything here (except foreign troops and supplies for the groups above), and start hacking every PLC, SCADA, Servers (Cloud and onsite), IoT, Network, and anything else that looks "juicy", and watch the Chit$how burst into flames.

I do think Augason (and others) are having supply issues. But I also think that a LOT of people that haven't even thought about preparing have started to come to their senses and realize that they better start with what they can get their hands on. I have seen more people grabbing "Prepper" type magazines as well as doing online searches at their jobs in the last two months that EVER before, and people that you would not expect to see interested in those topics. Personally, I would love to see the YTD/S/W (Year to Date by Store by Week) inventory stock movements (what is received and sold in the stores over the last 365 days, broken down by store (think location) then by week) for the following stores:

Kroger
Wegmans
Food Lion
Walmart
Home Depot
Lowe's
Ace hardware
Service Star
Costco
Sam's Club

I fully believe the data of what is being sold now, versus just a few months ago, would show all sorts of people "waking up" and starting to plan. WHAT it shows them buying would also be very enlightening as well. The question is, are they getting what they NEED, versus what they are reading or learning about. The other interesting things is if they are getting prepared mentally and spiritually for what is coming, because without the MINDSET and HEARTSET, your TOOLSET and SUPPLYSET is going to be worthless.

For example, having a Tourniquet (or a few) is great, knowing how to use it correctly, and having the MINDSET to keep calm when you need it most is what is actually going to save the life of someone. Having PALLETS of long term storage food is great for post TSHTF, but if you don't have the equipment to cook it, and the ability to keep water coming, or to be able to keep warm through the winter with no power, you are still going to die with a lot of food left on pallets for someone else to use that DOES know how to do all of the other things. And learning about how to do those things AFTER TSHTF may also cost you or someone you love their lives. Learn it now, PRACTICE it now, and then when you find out what supplies and consumables you are missing, THEN GO SHOPPING.

ETA: Think about the fact that MANY in DC have said that it is just fine to print whatever money they need or want. And others in DC have OPENLY talked about "valuing" a ~$1000 coin with the face value of $1,000,000,000,000. That is a BILLION to one offset ratio of our nation's currency and shows just how far off they are willing to admit their FIAT currency is worthless. That should scare ANYONE into starting to think about their near term future if they have not already and they have ANY working grey matter upstairs.
 
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Bps1691

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Kathy in FL said:
Wow. Mountain House is next.

I would suggest people get on Amazon and some of the other online sales sites and check out some of the lesser known camp food brands such as Peak and a few others like Good To Go and Backpacker's Pantry.

I would say people with special diets should be doing this pronto pronto.

Another alternative is of course make your own but you aren't going to get a 20+ year storage life out of them.
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It's higher than normal and the selections are limited, but there is still some Mountain House pouches and a few #10 cans on Amazon
 
Ractivist

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Who needs twenty year shelf stable food when the second coming is about seven years out
1948
2018 to 2028

about to get very serious
 
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TidesofTruth

Veteran Member
LoupGarou said:
Considering the fact that a lot of wars start when one or more countries don't have the "consumables" (Food, Fuel, Power, and other supplies) to make it through the next few months, ESPECIALLY at the start of winter... And considering that NUMEROUS countries in the Northern Hemisphere are already talking about having food and/or grid power issues... And considering that shipping those "consumables" right now has become a bad game of chance...

And considering the sheer number of places that either have "holes on the shelves", or "We aren't going to be getting that back in for a while" messages, or that the price has doubled if they do have certain things... Yes, it's bad. Now throw in most countries are trying some level of lockdown on it's civilians, including the use of their military in the aid of both the lockdowns as well as the control aspects of all of the other mandates and demands, AND at the same time are also practicing landing military planes on their highways around the country, and you really start pushing a 7-10 or higher.

When whatever "go" signal happens, you can bet your bottom dollar (and all of the other ones you ever had), that they will be unleashing every last drop of "hell on earth" that they can, including BLM, Antifa, Anarchists, Socialists, Commies, Illegals, Gang members, Drug cartel, and whoever else would fight to bring down the US. A LOT of countries and other groups want the US out of the picture and off the global stage. Drop the US Dollar from the world's reserve currency group, stop sending anything here (except foreign troops and supplies for the groups above), and start hacking every PLC, SCADA, Servers (Cloud and onsite), IoT, Network, and anything else that looks "juicy", and watch the Chit$how burst into flames.

I do think Augason (and others) are having supply issues. But I also think that a LOT of people that haven't even thought about preparing have started to come to their senses and realize that they better start with what they can get their hands on. I have seen more people grabbing "Prepper" type magazines as well as doing online searches at their jobs in the last two months that EVER before, and people that you would not expect to see interested in those topics. Personally, I would love to see the YTD/S/W (Year to Date by Store by Week) inventory stock movements (what is received and sold in the stores over the last 365 days, broken down by store (think location) then by week) for the following stores:

Kroger
Wegmans
Food Lion
Walmart
Home Depot
Lowe's
Ace hardware
Service Star
Costco
Sam's Club

I fully believe the data of what is being sold now, versus just a few months ago, would show all sorts of people "waking up" and starting to plan. WHAT it shows them buying would also be very enlightening as well. The question is, are they getting what they NEED, versus what they are reading or learning about. The other interesting things is if they are getting prepared mentally and spiritually for what is coming, because without the MINDSET and HEARTSET, your TOOLSET and SUPPLYSET is going to be worthless.

For example, having a Tourniquet (or a few) is great, knowing how to use it correctly, and having the MINDSET to keep calm when you need it most is what is actually going to save the life of someone. Having PALLETS of long term storage food is great for post TSHTF, but if you don't have the equipment to cook it, and the ability to keep water coming, or to be able to keep warm through the winter with no power, you are still going to die with a lot of food left on pallets for someone else to use that DOES know how to do all of the other things. And learning about how to do those things AFTER TSHTF may also cost you or someone you love their lives. Learn it now, PRACTICE it now, and then when you find out what supplies and consumables you are missing, THEN GO SHOPPING.

ETA: Think about the fact that MANY in DC have said that it is just fine to print whatever money they need or want. And others in DC have OPENLY talked about "valuing" a ~$1000 coin with the face value of $1,000,000,000,000. That is a BILLION to one offset ratio of our nation's currency and shows just how far off they are willing to admit their FIAT currency is worthless. That should scare ANYONE into starting to think about their near term future if they have not already and they have ANY working grey matter upstairs.
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I find I have to Compartmentalize my life to the extreme to be able to cope. Essentially three sections but the third section is the Overruling task master of the other two. The first is my everyday business life that I display to the world. Right now our business has been in a tremendous growth cycle that if things were normal and stayed that way I would be set in the next 3 years for my retirement. I work that Section like there is only that tomorrow and we are having tremendous success. In my heart Section 3 tells me won't ever happen but again I compartmentalize so I can do the very best job I can to make it a reality even if its not.

Section 2, done quite separately is my preparedness self. This section is constantly practicing and preparing for section 1 going to hell in a handbasket. I. is the side that has me in a constant state of readiness on every out of town meeting. Constantly prepared with Get Home and Bug Out apparatus at the ready at all times. It is in my everyday thought and what if planning weekly. It has me taking stock and restocking and practicing to do whatever it takes if Section 1 is gone. And then there is Section 3.

Section 3 is the Overriding factor that no matter the success or failure of Section 1 and for that matter Section 2 that Section 3 is my all in all. My God has taken me this far and will take me home. I will trust in Him what may come because He has always been faithful and I will never do anything to allow my faith in Him to be shaken. Section 3 is really all that matters. It is all that there really is and all I have ever wanted for section 1 and 2 was to buy a little time to store treasure in Section 3. We will see how much time is left but I don't think much.
 
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Sid Vicious

Sid Vicious

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For those of us that do Keto

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Keystone Meats

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I like to see what mypatriotsupply has on the daily deal and buy pouches half off. I have a wall of mac & cheese and soups. The canned meat would work really well as a additive and extend your stores much longer.
 
Hacker

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
LoupGarou said:
Considering the fact that a lot of wars start when one or more countries don't have the "consumables" (Food, Fuel, Power, and other supplies) to make it through the next few months, ESPECIALLY at the start of winter... And considering that NUMEROUS countries in the Northern Hemisphere are already talking about having food and/or grid power issues... And considering that shipping those "consumables" right now has become a bad game of chance... And considering the sheer number of places that either have "holes on the shelves", or "We aren't going to be getting that back in for a while" messages, or that the price has doubled if they do have certain things... Yes, it's bad. Now throw in most countries are trying some level of lockdown on it's civilians, including the use of their military in the aid of both the lockdowns as well as the control aspects of all of the other mandates and demands, AND at the same time are also practicing landing military planes on their highways around the country, and you really start pushing a 7-10 or higher.

When whatever "go" signal happens, you can bet your bottom dollar (and all of the other ones you ever had), that they will be unleashing every last drop of "hell on earth" that they can, including BLM, Antifa, Anarchists, Socialists, Commies, Illegals, Gang members, Drug cartel, and whoever else would fight to bring down the US. A LOT of countries and other groups want the US out of the picture and off the global stage. Drop the US Dollar from the world's reserve currency group, stop sending anything here (except foreign troops and supplies for the groups above), and start hacking every PLC, SCADA, Servers (Cloud and onsite), IoT, Network, and anything else that looks "juicy", and watch the Chit$how burst into flames.

I do think Augason (and others) are having supply issues. But I also think that a LOT of people that haven't even thought about preparing have started to come to their senses and realize that they better start with what they can get their hands on. I have seen more people grabbing "Prepper" type magazines as well as doing online searches at their jobs in the last two months that EVER before, and people that you would not expect to see interested in those topics. Personally, I would love to see the YTD/S/W (Year to Date by Store by Week) inventory stock movements (what is received and sold in the stores over the last 365 days, broken down by store (think location) then by week) for the following stores:

Kroger
Wegmans
Food Lion
Walmart
Home Depot
Lowe's
Ace hardware
Service Star
Costco
Sam's Club

I fully believe the data of what is being sold now, versus just a few months ago, would show all sorts of people "waking up" and starting to plan. WHAT it shows them buying would also be very enlightening as well. The question is, are they getting what they NEED, versus what they are reading or learning about. The other interesting things is if they are getting prepared mentally and spiritually for what is coming, because without the MINDSET and HEARTSET, your TOOLSET and SUPPLYSET is going to be worthless.

For example, having a Tourniquet (or a few) is great, knowing how to use it correctly, and having the MINDSET to keep calm when you need it most is what is actually going to save the life of someone. Having PALLETS of long term storage food is great for post TSHTF, but if you don't have the equipment to cook it, and the ability to keep water coming, or to be able to keep warm through the winter with no power, you are still going to die with a lot of food left on pallets for someone else to use that DOES know how to do all of the other things. And learning about how to do those things AFTER TSHTF may also cost you or someone you love their lives. Learn it now, PRACTICE it now, and then when you find out what supplies and consumables you are missing, THEN GO SHOPPING.

ETA: Think about the fact that MANY in DC have said that it is just fine to print whatever money they need or want. And others in DC have OPENLY talked about "valuing" a ~$1000 coin with the face value of $1,000,000,000,000. That is a BILLION to one offset ratio of our nation's currency and shows just how far off they are willing to admit their FIAT currency is worthless. That should scare ANYONE into starting to think about their near term future if they have not already and they have ANY working grey matter upstairs.
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It may have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread. Nonetheless, this is important.

I went to Costco just 48 hours ago. When I go, I specifically check the canned meat section, as that's what I buy for longer-term storage. On this trip, these shelves had no canned meats stocked. NONE. Instead, there was a selection of canned fish. Sardines, Salmon, and Tuna.

Mind you, I've been going to Costco for 15 years now - I've never seen anything like it.
 
Dinghy

Dinghy

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I went to a Thrive Life site just out of curiosity this morning. There were a lot of items out of stock there also.
 
TxGal

TxGal

Day by day
Costco online still has a fair amout of Mountain House and Nutristore in stock in their Emergency Supplies section. Prices are better than most places.
 
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WalknTrot

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You can't do better on prices and shipping than the LDS website. What they have is basic, and getting thinner all the time, but bare bones staples that will stretch everything else you have, and you won't go hungry. (If you know how to cook/bake from scratch). OTOH, if you are looking for reasonably priced ready-meals like freeze dried Chili Mac or Beef Stroganoff, there's probably not much help for ya anymore. ;)

Here:

http://store.churchofjesuschrist.or...w=grid&fromPage=catalogEntryList&beginIndex=0
 
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TxGal

TxGal

Day by day
WalknTrot said:
You can't do better on prices and shipping than the LDS website. What they have is basic, and getting thinner all the time, but bare bones staples that will stretch everything else you have, and you won't go hungry. (If you know how to cook/bake from scratch). OTOH, if you are looking for reasonably priced ready-meals like freeze dried Chili Mac or Beef Stroganoff, there's probably not much help for ya anymore. ;)

Here:

http://store.churchofjesuschrist.or...w=grid&fromPage=catalogEntryList&beginIndex=0
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I also noticed what they have online is a fraction of what they usually sell online. Their stores usually have all the options on their order form/price list, but I'd have to wonder if they have all that in stock at the stores. They always advised calling ahead to be sure they have what folks are looking for is in stock, and to double check their hours since the stores are staffed by volunteers. They're wonderful people and do a great service to everyone.

I'll try to post their order form for in-store shopping. I think there are a few things that used to be offered that don't seem to be right now: Nope, I'm getting a server error.

Home Storage Center Short Order Form (U.S.) (churchofjesuschrist.org)
 
EMICT

EMICT

Veteran Member
Hfcomms said:
Amazon still has plenty of Augason Farms foods available in #10 cans in stock that they ship from their warehouses but it won't be there for long. If you need to top off do it today before the word gets disseminated further.
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Most of the things showing as available on the main page are out of stock when placed in the cart with normal delivery time of up to six months (Prime). So in short... 'and it's gone' is the takeaway message.
 
Hfcomms

Hfcomms

EN66iq
EMICT said:
Most of the things showing as available on the main page are out of stock when placed in the cart with normal delivery time of up to six months (Prime). So in short... 'and it's gone' is the takeaway message.
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Ah, didn't go that far to track it down. It just showed Prime delivery by the end of the week so I thought everything was in stock.
 
TxGal

TxGal

Day by day
TxGal said:
Costco online still has a fair amout of Mountain House and Nutristore in stock in their Emergency Supplies section. Prices are better than most places.
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I'm replying to my own post here. Just a heads up that Costco is pretty much out of the above. Very little left on their website. That didn't take long.
 
subnet

subnet

Boot
TxGal said:
This info from Augason is posted in several places on the forum now, and it's good to spread it far and wide.

I walked into our spare room/pantry/storage room, and figured I could probably squeeze a little more in as long as I stack it on the floor next to the storage racks.

I just placed an order online for several cases of items at the LDS store online:

Food Storage | United States Store (churchofjesuschrist.org)

I can't say enough good things about these folks. My dear niece, who married into an LDS (now Church of Jesus Christ) family, became a member, and passed about a decade ago, taught us about the Church's food storage program over 30 years ago. She also got us several items to try from the cannery back when they still did the ward canning sessions. From her I first learned about Emergency Essentials (beprepared.com), which I believe is now part of the Augason family. I didn't see any notice about delays there. The LDS store is out of stock on some items, but some are still in stock. They are extremely helpful, and we've always been pleased with their products.

If you are lucky enough to have an LDS store near you, double check their hours and don't hesitate to visit. Our nearest one is a good 2+ hrs away, but it's worth a trip and we usually go a few times a year. I would not be surprised if they limit their sales to LDS member only, but to my knowledge it hasn't happened yet. They really do believe in helping everyone prepare, not just their own members.

Don't wait, folks, this is becoming beyond serious now, and it's real.
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Stopped by the local lds store here and asked about business since the AF news, they said no real change yet.
 
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