INTL Main Russia/Ukraine invasion thread - Donetsk now claims all of Ukraine - Post #18742

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John Schindler‏@20committee·47 mins
As reference point, the 150K Russian troops involved in snap MILEX near #Ukraine is about same size as US force that invaded Iraq in 2003.
 

SIRR1

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Thanks HC I went to wiki and learned a lot about the Ukraine!

The Ukraine looks better off militarily than Georgia did 7 years ago...

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Jon Passantino‏@passantino·7m
Ukraine: Armed men have seized regional government building and parliament in Crimea - Interfax via @Reuters

bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote9m
Tatar leader says Crimean Parliament stormed and occupied by armed men early this morning & warning ppl stay away from there #euromaidan
 

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bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·13 mins
Tatar leader says Parliament was seized at 0550 this morning by men in unmarked uniforms and armed with weapons #euromaidan
 

Lilbitsnana

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I suspect Russian citizens and not the mil. (weren't there already Russian flags up from yesterday or day before? maybe different bldg)

bruce springnote‏@BSpringnote·1m
Report that Russian flags flying over Crimean Parliament. If so I guess we know who's responsible #euromaidan
 

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Kalashnikitty‏@CustosDivini·2m
#news: About 30 gunmen shot at #Crimea parliament doors, neutralized security: @interfax_news http://on.rt.com/xhz2zu #Ukraine

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Published time: February 18, 2014 15:03
Edited time: February 26, 2014 16:23

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A protester guards an entrance to Independence Square in central Kiev on February 26, 2014 (AFP Photo / Louisa Gouliamaki)


Political instability settled over Ukraine as the opposition-controlled parliament voted to appoint its newly-elected speaker as acting president, with eastern and southern Ukraine saying they no longer see parliament as legitimate.

Thursday, February 27

06:08 GMT:

The buildings of the Crimean parliament and administration have been seized by an unknown armed group.

Law enforcement authorities are stationed next to the Council of Ministers, with officers banning people from approaching the building, Interfax-Ukraine reported, citing the press service of the Crimean parliament.
 

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Kalashnikittyþ@CustosDivini3 mins

#Crimea#Ukraine: The gunmen were in combat dress but without badges; took control without a fight http://u.afp.com/Nzx #Russia

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Pro-Russia armed men seize Crimea parliament, govt HQ

10 minutes ago


Kiev (AFP) - Pro-Russian armed men Thursday seized the parliament and government buildings in the Ukrainian region of Crimea and raised Russian flags above them, the Interfax-Ukraine news agency reported.

Dozens of men in full combat dress but without any markings of affiliation marched into the buildings earlier in the morning and removed the guards without any fight, the agency quoted sources in parliament as saying.

The move came amid concerns of growing separatism on the overwhelmingly pro-Russian peninsula on the Black Sea after the ousting of pro-Moscow president Viktor Yanukovych.
 

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Gregor Peter‏@L0gg0l·4 mins
Russian Western and Central commands start massive redeployment, Itar-Tass says http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/721148

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Western and Central commands start massive redeployment


Russia
February 27, 10:16UTC+4
About 150,000 servicemen are taking part in the large-scale military exercise


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ITAR-TASS/Lev Fedoseev


MOSCOW, February 27. /ITAR-TASS/. Large units and military commands dislocated on the territory of the Western and Central commands and participating in the combat readiness test have started a massive redeployment to areas of interest, according to the press service of Russia’s Defense Ministry.


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Russia informs NATO on ad hoc military exercise, fulfills transparency conditions

According to the General Staff of the Russian army, the commanders received packets with introductory data on performing route marches to areas of loading troop trains, as well as to airdromes of military transport aviation, followed by troops’ redeployment to the Defense Ministry’s ranges located far away from areas of permanent dislocation.

Tank units and detachments of the We4stern Command have finished the uploading of the railroad platforms and now are performing route marches to areas of interest.

Several units of the Western and Central commands are assigned to perform route marches under own power to cover a distance of more than 1,000 km.

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Surprise drills of Russian army not related to situation in Ukraine – minister
Detachments of the Pskov unit of the Airborne Forces have rapidly moved to the aerial embarkation center and are ready to enter the areas of interest.

Troops and units dislocated in polar regions, Kaliningrad, Samara, Leningrad, Pskov, Kursk, Voronezh, Lipetsk and other regions of Russia are moved from areas of permanent deployment and ready to be sent to any district assigned by the General Staff.

It would become known where and what tasks the troops would perform after officers of the General Staff would open the relevant packets and inform the armies’ and units’ commanders. The main task of the first stage of the combat readiness check is to assess actions of commanders and staffs when put in top combat readiness and redeployment to areas of interest.

Under authority of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, from February 26, the Defense Ministry is undergoing an instantaneous integrated combat readiness test of the Western Command Armed Forces, 2nd Army of the Central Command and Airborne Troops Command.

All in all, about 150 thousand military personnel of different services of the Armed Forces and military commands are involved in the check. Up to 90 planes, more than 120 helicopters, up to 880 tanks, over 1,200 defense equipment units and about 80 ships would be used.
 

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Steiner‏@Steiner17761 min
Urgent! Those BTR's near #Simferopol are most likely under #Kiev #Bandera control and not #russia'n. pic.twitter.com/wyFYrKDYMW

Steiner‏@Steiner1776·5 mins
Apparently a large column of BTR's near #Simferopol #Crimea pic.twitter.com/wyFYrKDYMW Needs confirmation yet via @rykov

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these guys below are the ones that took over the buildings.

ITAR-TASS‏@itass_en·2 mins
Self-defence units emerge spontaneously in #Ukraine's #Crimea, move to #Simferopol http://en.itar-tass.com/world/721154


ETA:

Middle East News‏@MiddleEast_BRK51 secs
#BreakingNews Seperatist forces on #Crimea took over all government institutions in #Sevastopol and are reported to move on #Simferopol now.
 

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Gregor Peterþ@L0gg0l10 mins
Self-defence groups are spontaneously emerging all over the peninsula and moving to Simferopol, Itar-Tass correspondents report.
 

Lilbitsnana

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I don't know if these tweets below are twisting and hyping the above posts/info or not, but I am posting them anyway. I think they are. maybe not, see next post. I don't know what is real and what is a drill and apparetly no one else does either except Putin.
ETA: the pic in the one below is the same pic of the vehicles in post #92 above.

Middle East News‏@MiddleEast_BRK·2 mins
#BreakingNews Large military forces seen near #Simferopol. Also Russian military activity reported near #Yalta. pic.twitter.com/WWz05qkEqe

AmericanDefenseNews‏@AmDefNews·2 mins
BREAKING: *Unconfirmed* reports of Russian military vehicles on roads near #Simferopol, #Ukraine. #Russia #Crimea
 

Lilbitsnana

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then again, maybe above was right???!!!! You know this "drill" is pretty damn convenient and confusing on the timing.

Gregor Peterþ@L0gg0l4 mins
RUSSIA PUTS FIGHTER JETS AT WESTERN BORDERS ON COMBAT ALERT -- INTERFAX


Gregor Peterþ@L0gg0l2 mins
Dollar, equities selling off on headline Russia putting fighter jets at Western border on combat alert
 

Lilbitsnana

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oh, comeon! I can't take this it is, it isn't. I don't think it is all drills. (It sure would be a lot better if I knew the lingo and normal ops for drills, etc. It doesn't seem like a drill)

Nathan J Hunt‏@ISNJH·55 secs
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Jonas Grätz‏@graetzi·3 mins
#Crimea: #Ukraine's security forces to intercept #Russia's troop transporters, says state agency UNIAN http://www.unian.net/politics/89046...ayon-chtobyi-perehvatit-rossiyskie-btryi.html

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SBU sent to Simferopol district, to " catch the Russian APCs "

27.02.2014 | 09:52


SBU sent to Simferopol region " intercept " Russian armored vehicles .


Photo : crimea.comments.ua

According to UNIAN , Ukrainian secret service officers telephoned journalists and TV channels reported that sent today to the village hideaways near Simferopol to " catch the Russian armored vehicles ."

Read also in Sevastopol and the Black Sea Fleet headquarters Moscow House appeared APCs

" Our staff will conduct certain actions to prevent violation of public order ," - said by phone UNIAN press officer of the Crimean group of the SBU .

According to media reports , at the Cozy 7 APCs are supposedly to strengthen the protection of objects Russian Black Sea Fleet based in Crimea.

As UNIAN reported earlier , in the Crimea unidentified men in camouflage with guns seized parliament and government of Crimea. On buildings raised the flags of Russia . In Simferopol declared output .
 
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Middle East News‏@MiddleEast_BRK·4 mins
#BreakingNews The Ukrainian secret service reports, Russian military forces are located in #Ukrome, some 5 km north of #Simferopol.
 

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❖Миша☠_HandsoffSyria‏@filokalia·3 mins
#Ukraine #Russia.n army is moving north of #Simferopol #Crimea
 

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Gregor Peterþ@L0gg0l9 mins
RT @tconnellyRTE: My driver in Sevastopol says Russian tanks are on the way from Eupatoria on the Black Sea coast to Simferopol #Crimea

Middle East Newsþ@MiddleEast_BRK14 mins
#BreakingNews SBU says, it will "conduct certain actions" in #Ukrome where 7 Russian army BTRs have been seen. https://www.google.de/maps/place/Uk...3m1!1s0x40eae9a81672fa65:0x89ccd7301a1b25d2 …


LBCI News Englishþ@LBCI_News_EN2 mins
Acting President tells Russia that troop movements outside black sea fleet base in #Crimea would be seen by #Ukraine as act of aggression
 

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really? never noticed


Marco Di Liddo‏@Marco_Di_Liddo·2 mins
Very tense situation in #Crimea as #Russia naval infantry moves to #Simferopol #Ukhaine #Counterrevolution


Yaroslav Trofimov‏@yarotrof2 mins
Ukraine's interim president warns Russia: moving Black Sea Fleet ground units outside agreed base areas in Crimea is "military aggression"
 

Lilbitsnana

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I get the impression he isn't sure it's not Putin's work

LBCI News English‏@LBCI_News_EN·3 mins
#Poland's Foreign Minister Sikorski says seizure of govt buildings in #Crimea is a "drastic step", risks regional conflict -REUTERS
 

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At least I'm not the only one unsure.


John Schindler‏@20committee·52m
BREAKING: SBU (#Ukraine Security Service) is moving in Simferopol district "to intercept Russian armored vehicles" - UNIAN #war

John Schindler‏@20committee·7 mins
Refat Chubarov, head of Crimean Tatar Majlis, tells 5 Kanal TV that column of those mystery BTR APCs is approaching Simferopol...developing,

the grugq ‏@thegrugq·2m
@20committee any relation to the "military exercises" that just happen to be going on? You reckon it's full on invasion now?

John Schindler‏@20committee·2 mins
@thegrugq hard to say...massive intimidation at least


John Schindler‏@20committee·1m
B4 anyone gets too hung up on ID thru mil insignia & uniforms, understand Russians have plenty of Ukrainian stuff - & vice versa #maskirovka
 

Lilbitsnana

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OMG, their Pres doesn't know what the mil is doing?

I wish I knew for sure what is what. I don't like posting so many conflicting and/or unknown items, but...

Not a spy‏@finriswolf·2 mins
Armor column on move towards #Simferopol may be #Ukranian 1st Marine battalion not Russians
 

Lilbitsnana

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If this was Putin playing, then this tweet from yesterday is appropriate, heck, if it wasn't him, the laughter over this whole scene is probably shaking the building.

Kalashnikitty‏@CustosDivini·15 hrs
I hear laughter in the Kremlin
 

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East of Brussels‏@EastOfBrussels·6 mins
NOTE: NO regular #Russia forces have been confirmed or reported by OFFICIAL sources to be active in connection with occup. parl in #Crimea
 

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Now, my question for those mil folks who would know better than me.

This whole thing seems to have been way too much "stuff" for approximately 30 bad guys holed up in a couple of buildings; but it sure seemed like the right amount to make the new gov have to change their pants and get the hint.

yes? no?
 

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ouch...snark

The Moscow News‏@themoscownews·1 min
In more totally reassuring, not-at-all-terrifying news: armed men have seized the Crimean parliament. #Simferopol
 
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