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[Zoner]

No Agency Is Prepared! Existing H5N1 Vaccines And Antivirals Like Tamiflu And Xofluza Do Not Work Against The New H5N1 Variants!​

Thailand Medical News
Nikhil Prasad Fact checked by:Thailand Medical News Team Apr 13, 2024

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/no-agency-is-prepared-existing-h5n1-vaccines-and-antivirals-like-tamiflu-and-xofluza-do-not-work-against-the-new-h5n1-variants

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H5N1 News: While the H5N1 virus has been spreading globally for the last two years at very alarming rates, affecting birds and poultry and evolving to infect other mammals, including dairy cows, cats, and dogs, various health agencies including the U.S. CDC and the U.S. NIH have kept insisting that they are prepared to deal with the situation should an outbreak involving human-to-human transmission occur.

Existing H5N1 Vaccines And Antivirals Like Tamiflu And Xofluza
Do Not Work Against The New H5N1 Variants

They claim that they have stockpiles of various H5N1 vaccines licensed by the U.S. FDA in the years 2017 and 2020, as well as stockpiles of Tamiflu and Xofluza.

American Authorities Advise Not to Panic Despite the Situation Worsening
The U.S. CDC, U.S. NIH, and even the U.S. FDA have in recent days insisted that there is no cause for panic over the rising cases of dairy cows getting infected in the United States.

While the number of cows and farms getting infected is growing by the hour, with now nine states in America already confirmed to have cows infected with a new strain of H5N1 that spots a unique mutation and allows it to spread via the eyes of the host, the American authorities do not seem to be springing into action to do anything except offer mere lip service.
https://www.thailandmedical.news/ne...s-via-the-eyes-thru-the-new-pb2-e67k-mutation

H5N1 News reports are already emerging about cats and even dogs getting infected and dying from the H5N1 virus, but there have been no updates on genomic sequencing to see if the virus is still mutating.
https://www.thailandmedical.news/ne...ave-already-been-infected-with-the-new-strain

H5N1 Evolving
The Avian H5N1, a strain of the influenza virus known to infect bird species and poultry globally and has been rising in spread and infections since 2022. It has started infecting numerous mammalian species globally and even in the United States since 2022 as well.

Worryingly, the H5N1 virus has now appeared to have breached a new barrier of inter-mammalian transmission, as seen in what is happening in the United States at the moment.

Already one human has been infected in Texas, while recently in Vietnam, a male student died from it despite not having been in contact with any birds or poultry. The student was treated with both Tamiflu and Xofluza but he still died a few days ago.

https://www.thailandmedical.news/ne...nfecting-dairy-cows-jumps-to-a-human-in-texas
https://www.thailandmedical.news/ne...5n1-avian-flu-has-possibly-emerged-in-vietnam
https://www.livescience.com/health/flu/21-year-old-student-dies-of-h5n1-bird-flu-in-vietnam

The continued transmissions among dairy cows, cats, dogs, and other mammals are very likely to yield newer mutations in the virus, and some scientists warn that we are just one mutation away from it being effectively transmissible between humans. Some even suspect that this has already occurred, but these strains do not have the right viral fitness yet and just need to further evolve!

While the U.S. CDC claims that it is still investigating the evolution issues of the current strains in the United States, what is being seen at the moment underscores the adaptability of the H5N1 virus and raises alarm about its potential to further evolve for efficient human transmission. Many ignorant so-called 'experts' and health authorities are claiming that there is a very low risk of H5N1 to the general human population despite having limited understanding of what is currently occurring.

No Natural Human Immunity
Humans have no natural immunity to H5N1, and as such, the virus could be very lethal to them.
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01836-y
https://journals.aai.org/jimmunol/a...9/Immune-Responses-to-Avian-Influenza-Viruses
However, many health authorities and agencies are claiming to have stockpiles of vaccines, antivirals, and also monoclonal antibodies to deal with a possible outbreak.

Nothing In The ‘Arsenal’ Works
However, in reality, nothing that is being mentioned works against the new H5N1 variants.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10869794/ (Read the study as it talks about a new H5N1 monoclonal not yet approved or available but all existing products do not work.)

Already, it is known that even the current multivalent flu vaccines designed to act as a precaution against disease severity and mortality against presently circulating flu strains do not work efficiently as the flu viruses are great at evolving. The so-called stockpiled H5N1 vaccines were not made to handle this current strain of H5N1, which is still evolving. Furthermore, the stockpiles are sufficient for less than 1 percent of the global population; hence they serve no purpose in mitigating a potential outbreak.

Furthermore, past studies have shown that these vaccines in the stockpile do not even elicit a proper protective immune response after a single dose, and subsequent doses are not yet known to provide the right efficiency to even prevent flu infection.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...le-existing-vaccines-may-inadequate-rcna72973

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893923000984\

The U.S. FDA-approved drugs like Tamiflu and Xofluza have demonstrated to show no efficiency in the past sporadic cases of zoonotic infections of H5N1 to humans in countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Chile, and Argentina in the last two years! All the infected died except two.

Strangely, the U.S. CDC, U.S. NIH, U.S. FDA, WHO, EMA, etc., recently approved the production of mRNA vaccines for H5N1. What strains of H5N1 used are a complete mystery, and so are the reasons as to why! No research is being funded to develop proper broad-spectrum antivirals to deal with a possible H5N1 or a recombinant H5N1 virus outbreak among humans. Many of the current monoclonal antibodies in stockpile to deal with H5N1 are also unlikely to help anyone, including those in vulnerable groups.
https://investors.vir.bio/news/news...l-Influenza-A-Illness-07-20-2023/default.aspx

H5N1 Diagnostics
The current rapid flu antigen tests that are administered in emergency rooms and many doctors' offices cannot detect H5N1, and there is an urgent need to start preparing for such test kits. In practice, preparations are often made only when an outbreak actually occurs.

United States Ill-Prepared
America is totally unprepared for an imminent H5N1 outbreak. In fact, the country is being very complacent despite many of its scientists and academics in the field warning that it is just a matter of months or even weeks before an outbreak occurs.

Thailand Medical News does not think that the current H5N1 lineage in cows that are still evolving will be the strain that causes the outbreak but rather a recombinant variant involving either pig, dog, or cat will be the strain that will wreak havoc among humans in the coming time.

For the latest H5N1 News, keep logging on to Thailand Medical News.

 

[Zoner]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1779092470409605438

View: https://twitter.com/hugopottisch/status/1779092470409605438

 

[northern watch]

Is the following related to covid vaccines?

 

[hd5574]

Do you order it from an herbal supplement store?
I’ve read quite a bit about the healing properties of tobacco leaves lately

No I just use a package of unfiltered cigarettes ...one cigarette is usually enough for a poltuce.... depending upon the situation.... you can make a cold or hot poltuce....I have used cold ones in the woods...
If you are drawing infection be sure to keep the tobacco right over the area that is cut/open as it will pull the infection into the tobacco...for that I use a hot one....with infection after ...burn the poltuce if possible....as the tobacco will be full of the infection..be careful of how you dispose of it ..
I have never seen it but it is said a green tobacco leaf wrapped around a finger can draw blood through the skin....
For years people picking in the fields chewed tobacco and if they were stung... they would slap the tobacco right on sting..in flash it will draw the poison (venom)out and basically stop the sting

I know that is off subject for this thread... but makes sense that the nicotine is active ingredient in tobacco and that the nicotine in the patches would work on the long covid...
The article I mentioned...said the monoclonal antibodies used to treat C-19 are type of anti-venom treatment for snake venom....it refers back to an 1851 article about treating snake bite..with tobacco
Per Dr Bryan Ardis it appears that the spike protein resembles snake venom...that there may a relationship to snake venom.. possibly cobra...in covid
Having used tobacco to heal for over 50 years I am not surprised that the patches could work...of course tobacco has been given a bad name by the government....just like IVM
If I remember correctly..smokers didn't seem to get Covid...could it be the nicotine blocking the receptors...that venom attached to..of course snake venom effects the breathing...
Could nicotine patches protect you from the 'new improved covid' that they talking about ..does covid or X have snake venom ...?¿? Is that why you might need an oxygen collector..
Another hum moment ...
I will keep both tobacco and patches and maybe even some gum in my med kit...and a couple of the canned oxygen around (DH welds and owns his own tanks and torches.,.. he told me that ...that welding oxygen is not right to breathe.. they are different and he would never use it for breathing)

 

[psychgirl]

Great information!

Thank you!

 

[hd5574]

Since this new..H5N1 ...appears to attack the eyes at the first sign of 'pink' eye I will spray my eyes with colloidal silver... super antiviral...
Followed by eyebright tea in the eyes...I use eyebright tea bags..so I don't need to strain the loose herb from the tea...make sure the tea is cool first

 

[Zoner]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1779367416046530576

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[Zoner]

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/warning-issued-that-smallpox-can-make-a-comeback-either-via-an-accidental-leak-or-via-a-bioterrorism-act

Warning Issued That Smallpox Can Make A Comeback Either Via An Accidental Leak Or Via A Bioterrorism Act!
Nikhil Prasad Fact checked by:Thailand Medical News Team Apr 14, 2024

Medical News: Smallpox, a disease with a notorious history of causing immense human suffering and death, was officially declared eradicated in 1980. However, recent warnings and reports suggest that this once-vanquished scourge could make a comeback, either through accidental leaks or deliberate acts of bio-terrorism.

This Medical News report delves into the implications of such a resurgence, the current state of preparedness, and the necessary actions to mitigate the risks posed by smallpox.

Smallpox: Eradication and Risks of Resurgence
The eradication of smallpox stands as a monumental achievement in the annals of public health. Yet, the specter of its return looms ominously, fueled by developments in biotechnology, global inter-connectedness, and the potential for intentional misuse.

The "Future State of Smallpox Medical Countermeasures" report by the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM) serves as a warning, urging vigilance and proactive measures.
Future State of Smallpox Medical Countermeasures | The National Academies Press

Dr Zhilong Yang, an associate professor in the Texas A&M School of Veterinary Medicine & Biomedical Sciences' Department of Veterinary Pathobiology, who is a prominent voice in the field, underscores the need for preparedness, drawing parallels with recent pandemics like COVID-19 and outbreaks of related viruses such as monkey pox. The inter-connectedness of diseases within the pox-virus family necessitates a comprehensive approach encompassing diagnostics, vaccines, and therapeutics.

Understanding the Risks: Accidental Leaks and Bio-warfare
The report identifies two primary avenues through which smallpox could stage a comeback: accidental leaks from secure laboratories and deliberate acts of bio-terrorism. While current safeguards mitigate the risk of accidental releases from established repositories, the proliferation of genetic data and advances in synthetic biology raise concerns about the potential for clandestine re-creation of the smallpox virus.

The ramifications of a smallpox outbreak, whether natural or engineered, extend far beyond immediate health impacts. Socioeconomic disruptions, strained healthcare systems, and global panic underscore the urgency of bolstering preparedness efforts.

While in the United States, only two labs i.e. the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia, and the Laboratory for Applied Microbiology at Koltsovo in Russia - have official collections of the virus that causes smallpox, making the chance of an accidental "leak" low, there are many labs across the world that still holds samples unofficially and without any declaration.

It is also believed that the U.S Military, the Chinese government, The British authorities, the Iranian government as well as countries like Russia, Ukraine, Israel and Afghanistan are conducting covert experiments on smallpox viruses as potential bio weapons!

Imperative for Enhanced Readiness and Medical Countermeasures
The NASEM report advocates for a multifaceted approach to enhance U.S. readiness and response capabilities. Key areas of focus include:
-Diagnostics: Develop advanced diagnostic tools capable of early and accurate detection, differentiation from related viruses, and widespread deployment across diverse settings.
-Vaccines: Innovate safer, more efficacious vaccines that can be rapidly deployed, ensuring broad accessibility and compatibility with diverse populations.
-Therapeutics: Expand therapeutic options with diverse mechanisms of action, routes of administration, and targets, mitigating the risk of treatment resistance and improving patient outcomes.

The Role of Research and Technology
Live variola virus, essential for research into smallpox and related diseases, necessitates a nuanced approach balancing scientific advancement with biosecurity imperatives. As gene editing, DNA synthesis, and artificial intelligence evolve, decision-makers confront the dual challenge of harnessing technological benefits while mitigating potential risks, including bio-terrorism and unintended consequences.

Emerging technologies offer unprecedented insights into virus evolution, transmission dynamics, and therapeutic efficacy. However, stringent risk-benefit analyses and robust bioethics frameworks are imperative to navigate this complex landscape responsibly.

Global Collaboration and Preparedness
The interconnected nature of infectious disease threats mandates international collaboration and solidarity. The report emphasizes the inter-connectedness of global readiness and response capabilities, advocating for bolstered international capacity, information sharing, and equitable access to medical countermeasures.

In the event of a smallpox emergency, the effectiveness of U.S. response hinges not only on domestic preparedness but also on coordinated international efforts to detect, contain, and mitigate transmission risks.

Conclusion: Safeguarding Against Smallpox Resurgence
The eradication of smallpox stands as a testament to human ingenuity and collaboration. However, complacency in the face of evolving threats is a luxury societies cannot afford. The resurgence of smallpox, whether through inadvertent leaks or malicious intent, underscores the imperative for continuous vigilance, research innovation, and global cooperation.

By investing in robust diagnostics, next-generation vaccines, diversified therapeutics, and adaptable response strategies, nations can fortify their defenses against the reemergence of smallpox and related infectious diseases. The lessons gleaned from past pandemics and outbreaks serve as a blueprint for navigating the complex landscape of emerging biological threats, safeguarding public health, and preserving global security.

For the latest on smallpox, keep on logging to Thailand Medical News.

 

[Heliobas Disciple]

There are a group of blogger/substack writers who are very against ivermectin. I haven't posted about it because it seemed woo to me and possibly controlled opposition/disinformation. But it keeps coming up and there are some troubling real scientific studies on it done before covid ever came around. I am not trying to change anyone's mind, and because I know how controversial it is to even bring this up I'm just going to post links to these articles so you can decide for yourself and choose whether or not you want to read any further. The articles themselves are very long and image intensive and would take up 3 or 4 posts each to post so please do follow the links if you want to learn more. I want you to have all the information available so you can make an educated decision as you start or continue to take it. Sometimes it's a matter of balancing risk/benefit and most of us here are above child bearing age so this won't have an effect anyway, but good to know, especially if you are planning on giving it to your children. Who knows what Disease X is and when it's going to get here, ivermectin may be the best (only?) choice at that time. But make an educated decision, understand the risks; there are always risks with any drug you take (even aspirin, tylenol, etc). Why would ivermectin be any different?

"CLASTOGENIC" - 18 Studies Highlighting Ivermectin Induced DNA Breakage and Damage

Definitions: A clastogen is a substance or agent that induces chromosomal breakage or structural changes in the DNA of cells. The term "clastogen" is derived from the Greek word "klastos," meaning "to break." Clastogens can cause damage to the genetic material, leading to the formation of...

timtruth.substack.com

"CLASTOGENIC" - 18 Studies Highlighting Ivermectin Induced DNA Breakage, Damage & Related Disorders
Cytotoxic, Mutagenic, Genotoxic & Clastogenic? Ivermectin Is A Menace

Ivermectin VS Sperm: 3 Disturbing Studies On Decreased Sperm Counts, Decreased Sperm Motility & Increased % Abnormal Sperm Post-Ivermectin

Bad signs for Ivermectin's effects on male fertility!

timtruth.substack.com

Ivermectin VS Sperm: 3 Disturbing Studies On Decreased Sperm Counts, Decreased Sperm Motility & Increased Abnormal Sperm Post-Ivermectin
Bad signs for Ivermectin's effects on male fertility

Ivermectin Is Cytotoxic & Genotoxic (Damaging To Cells And DNA) & Likely Carcinogenic (Cancer Causing)

Why were we told this was safe?

timtruth.substack.com

Ivermectin Is Cytotoxic & Genotoxic (Damaging To Cells And DNA) & Possibly Carcinogenic (Cancer Causing)
Why were we told this was safe?

Ivermectin Is So Toxic It Kills Most Mosquitoes That Feed On Its Users For 4 Days After?!

Ivermectin is known to be an acutely toxic drug. According to one study, taken even at a standard dosage it kills most mosquitoes who feed on the Ivermectin user in the first 4 days. Much Higher Mortality And Fewer Children For Mosquitoes Feeding On Ivermectin Patients’ Blood

timtruth.substack.com

Ivermectin Is So Toxic It Kills Most Mosquitoes That Feed On Its Users For 4 Days After?!
Human subjects became walking insecticide for days after standard Ivermectin dose

Ivermectin, WHO, UN, Merck, The World Bank & Kissinger's World Population Plan Of Action

All signs point to genocide

timtruth.substack.com

Ivermectin, WHO, UN, Merck, The World Bank & Kissinger's World Population Plan Of Action
All signs point to genocide

The Branding and the Re-Branding of the Wonderful Mectizan (Ivermectin)

"semi-synthetic anti parasitic", anti viral, anti-helmintic, anti cancer, washes dishes, mows lawns, and if you stack it with Pepcid AC, plays Beethoven

sagehana.substack.com

The Branding and the Re-Branding of the Wonderful Mectizan (Ivermectin)
"semi-synthetic anti parasitic", anti viral, anti-helmintic, anti cancer, washes dishes, mows lawns, and if you stack it with Pepcid AC, plays Beethoven

 

[Heliobas Disciple]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2INvIT68jLs
What in the World is a HIVICRON?
Vejon Health
Streamed April 13, 2024
28 min 29 sec

Geert is anticipating the evolution of a "Highly Virulent Omicron Variant" (HIVICRON) within a short period of time. This is expected to be devastating to the highly vaccinated population.

Watch the analysis with Dr Rob Rennebohm here:
https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/reanalysis-of-geerts-concern-for



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Reanalysis of Geert's Concern for HIVICRON

Great information to help those interested in a deeper grasp of the science.

philipmcmillan.substack.com

(fair use applies)

Reanalysis of Geert's Concern for HIVICRON
Great information to help those interested in a deeper grasp of the science.
Dr Philip McMillan
Apr 13, 2024

VIDEO AT LINK
1 hr 36 min 28 sec

Always a pleasure to speak with Dr Rennebohm about Geert’s research. His interpretation is consistently valuable.

The immune escape pandemic in a nutshell. Large-scale infection-prevention measures combined with mass C-19 vaccination resulted in large-scale gain-of-function (from asymptomatic-mild infection by Wuhan-Hu-1 lineage to (PNN)Ab-dependent enhancement of severe C-19 disease by HIVICRON). Copyright Geert Vanden Bossche PhD

 

[Heliobas Disciple]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onww2X-ecfg
Japan data
Dr. John Campbell
Apr 13, 2024
17 min 57 sec

Increased Age-Adjusted Cancer Mortality After the Third mRNA-Lipid Nanoparticle Vaccine Dose During the COVID-19 Pandemic in Japan https://www.cureus.com/articles/19627... Gibo M, Kojima S, Fujisawa A, et al. (April 08, 2024) Increased Age-Adjusted Cancer Mortality After the Third mRNA-Lipid Nanoparticle Vaccine Dose During the COVID-19 Pandemic in Japan. Cureus 16(4): e57860. DOI 10.7759/cureus.57860 Conclusions Statistically significant increases in age-adjusted mortality rates of all cancer and some specific types of cancer, namely, ovarian cancer, leukemia, prostate, lip/oral/pharyngeal, pancreatic, and breast cancers, were observed in 2022 after two-thirds of the Japanese population had received the third or later dose of SARS-CoV-2 mRNA-LNP vaccine. These particularly marked increases in mortality rates of these ERα-sensitive cancers may be attributable to several mechanisms of the mRNA-LNP vaccination, rather than COVID-19 infection itself or reduced cancer care due to the lockdown. Researchers have reported that the SARS-CoV-2 mRNA-LNP vaccine may pose the risk of development and progression of cancer. Several case reports have described cancer developing or worsening after vaccination and discussed possible causal links between cancer and mRNA-LNP vaccination. Details of the paper No significant excess mortality was observed during the first year of the pandemic (2020). However, some excess cancer mortalities were observed in 2021 after mass vaccination with the first and second vaccine doses, and significant excess mortalities were observed for all cancers and some specific types of cancer after mass vaccination with the third dose in 2022. During the COVID-19 pandemic Excess deaths including cancer have become a concern in Japan Study aimed to evaluate how age-adjusted mortality rates (AMRs) for different types of cancer in Japan changed during the COVID-19 pandemic (2020-2022). Official statistics from Japan, used to compare observed annual and monthly AMRs, with predicted rates based on pre- pandemic (2010-2019) figures In 2020 (first year of the pandemic) Significant deficit mortality for all causes, and no excess mortality for all cancers. In 2021 Significant excess mortality of 2.1% for all causes, and 1.1% for all cancers. In 2022 Excesses mortality, 9.6% 2.1% for all cancers Number of excess deaths 115,799 Number of excess cancer deaths, 7,162 Lung, colorectal, stomach, pancreatic, and liver cancer Accounted for 61% of deaths from all cancers. AMRs for the four cancers with the most deaths showed a decreasing trend until the first year of the pandemic in 2020, but the rate of decrease slowed in 2021 and 2022. Since February 2021, the mRNA-lipid nanoparticle (mRNA-LNP) vaccine has been available for emergency use, and is recommended for all aged six months and older As of March 2023 80% of the Japanese population had received first and second doses, 68% had received third dose, 45% had received fourth dose Excess deaths from causes other than COVID-19 have been reported in various countries, including deaths from cancer, and Japan is no exception Japan, good data Large population of 123 million Availability of official statistics 80% accuracy rate of death certificates according to autopsy studies Vaccination rates by age group, the websites of the Prime Minister's Office and the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare Discussion All cancer deaths: A statistically significant excess emerged in 2021 and increased further in 2022. In addition, significant excess monthly mortality was observed after August 2021, whereas mass vaccination of the general population began around April 2021. There were excess trends in cancer deaths across most age groups. The significant increases in mortalities for six specific cancer types were unlikely to be explained by a shortage of healthcare services.

 

[psychgirl]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1779367416046530576

View: https://twitter.com/ThailandMedicaX/status/1779367416046530576

Welp, that…is an interesting turn of events if true.
Didn’t think of it this way, did you?

I’ll need to mull the possibility over

 

[Zoner]

Welp, that…is an interesting turn of events if true.
Didn’t think of it this way, did you?

I’ll need to mull the possibility over

Well there are a couple of researchers like him saying a major pandemic is getting ready to break out. It's been posted here. But truthfully, NO ONE knows how things are going to unfold except God. So we'll know soon enough...by the end of June.

 

[Countrymouse]

Welp, that…is an interesting turn of events if true.
Didn’t think of it this way, did you?

I’ll need to mull the possibility over

Actually, I did.

Read up on Bill Gates and all his talk about / support of WORLD directives to control the upcoming "Disease X".

This was all planned, long ago.

 

[psychgirl]

Well there are a couple of researchers like him saying a major pandemic is getting ready to break out. It's been posted here. But truthfully, NO ONE knows how things are going to unfold except God. So we'll know soon enough...by the end of June.

I’ve been following this thread for ages; I just don’t recall it being linked to actual war.
But good to know now!

 

[ktrapper]

I’ve been following this thread for ages; I just don’t recall it being linked to actual war.
But good to know now!

Covid, the jabs, big pharma, disease x, is all a part of the war against us. The biological, bio/chemical part, the jabs. Its war alright. Against the population of earth. All wars lead to one end, population reduction, power and control.

 

[Profit of Doom]

DH welds and owns his own tanks and torches.,.. he told me that ...that welding oxygen is not right to breathe.. they are different and he would never use it for breathing)

Air is captured, filtered, compressed, liquified, distilled to remove the nitrogen, argon and such. Purity is just as important in either use, and the same truck delivers it to the distributor for welding or medical. The tanks have different fittings and valves, and different regulators. It’s possible DH was told there was a difference by some who wanted to avoid liability or maintain a profitable concession.
Ask him what the difference is.

 

[Ragnarok]

No Agency Is Prepared! Existing H5N1 Vaccines And Antivirals Like Tamiflu And Xofluza Do Not Work Against The New H5N1 Variants!​

Thailand Medical News

Nothing In The ‘Arsenal’ Works
However, in reality, nothing that is being mentioned works against the new H5N1 variants.
A pan-influenza monoclonal antibody neutralizes H5 strains and prophylactically protects through intranasal administration (Read the study as it talks about a new H5N1 monoclonal not yet approved or available but all existing products do not work.)

Already, it is known that even the current multivalent flu vaccines designed to act as a precaution against disease severity and mortality against presently circulating flu strains do not work efficiently as the flu viruses are great at evolving. The so-called stockpiled H5N1 vaccines were not made to handle this current strain of H5N1, which is still evolving. Furthermore, the stockpiles are sufficient for less than 1 percent of the global population; hence they serve no purpose in mitigating a potential outbreak.

Furthermore, past studies have shown that these vaccines in the stockpile do not even elicit a proper protective immune response after a single dose, and subsequent doses are not yet known to provide the right efficiency to even prevent flu infection.

The U.S. FDA-approved drugs like Tamiflu and Xofluza have demonstrated to show no efficiency in the past sporadic cases of zoonotic infections of H5N1 to humans in countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Chile, and Argentina in the last two years! All the infected died except two.

Strangely, the U.S. CDC, U.S. NIH, U.S. FDA, WHO, EMA, etc., recently approved the production of mRNA vaccines for H5N1. What strains of H5N1 used are a complete mystery, and so are the reasons as to why! No research is being funded to develop proper broad-spectrum antivirals to deal with a possible H5N1 or a recombinant H5N1 virus outbreak among humans. Many of the current monoclonal antibodies in stockpile to deal with H5N1 are also unlikely to help anyone, including those in vulnerable groups.

How much do you want to bet that Ivermectin works?

 

[psychgirl]

How much do you want to bet that Ivermectin works?

I hope so

 

[hd5574]

I refer you to research the web for purity..I did they are not identical.

plus if are truly that sick would you really want to truck to yourself garage to breath oxygen and change fittings or try to get that heavy tank in your house..if you are needing oxygen you will very very sick..
I figure having the cans of oxygen will be enough to get you to your doctor's office without dragging your welding tank..our tank is huge
In addition not everyone has welding tanks just sitting around..

 

[psychgirl]

I refer you to research the web for purity..I did they are not identical.

plus if are truly that sick would you really want to truck to yourself garage to breath oxygen and change fittings or try to get that heavy tank in your house..if you are needing oxygen you will very very sick..
I figure having the cans of oxygen will be enough to get you to your doctor's office without dragging your welding tank..our tank is huge
In addition not everyone has welding tanks just sitting around..

I agree!
Dragging a tank around would not work.
I saw close up what Covid can do, for example.

DH had bilateral Covid pneumonia. It wasn’t pretty and he’s no slouch.

 

[Profit of Doom]

Air is captured, filtered, compressed, liquified, distilled to remove the nitrogen, argon and such. Purity is just as important in either use, and the same truck delivers it to the distributor for welding or medical. The tanks have different fittings and valves, and different regulators. It’s possible DH was told there was a difference by some who wanted to avoid liability or maintain a profitable concession.
Ask him what the difference is.

ETA. Apparently there is a potential difference in cleanliness of medical tanks, so even if the gas is actually the same, there is potential for contamination. Kinda like fish and bird meds. If you have no other choice.,..

 

[Profit of Doom]

I refer you to research the web for purity..I did they are not identical.

plus if are truly that sick would you really want to truck to yourself garage to breath oxygen and change fittings or try to get that heavy tank in your house..if you are needing oxygen you will very very sick..
I figure having the cans of oxygen will be enough to get you to your doctor's office without dragging your welding tank..our tank is huge
In addition not everyone has welding tanks just sitting around..

Part of original thought is welding doesn’t need a prescription. Best overall idea would be portable concentrator, but they’re pricey.

 

[Profit of Doom]

How much do you want to bet that Ivermectin works?

That’s the horse I’m putting a saddle on.

 

[Profit of Doom]

How much do you want to bet that Ivermectin works?

Just did a little searching. CDC and Washington Post speak poorly of it, so that’s a recommendation in my book.
Excuse me, gotta go shower now.
Check FLCCC protocols. There are detailed ones beyond the 2-3 pages we’re used to.

 

[psychgirl]

Just did a little searching. CDC and Washington Post speak poorly of it, so that’s a recommendation in my book.
Excuse me, gotta go shower now.
Check FLCCC protocols. There are detailed ones beyond the 2-3 pages we’re used to.

When you can would you post the new ones?

 

[hd5574]

Part of original thought is welding doesn’t need a prescription. Best overall idea would be portable concentrator, but they’re pricey.

Nice idea they also require an Rx.. they are expensive even used $400.00 was the least expensive i saw ...
The cans of oxygen while not as good as medical are the best and least expensive that I could locate for people to have back up oxygen..if needed

 

[John Deere Girl]

Nice idea they also require an Rx.. they are expensive even used $400.00 was the least expensive i saw ...
The cans of oxygen while not as good as medical are the best and least expensive that I could locate for people to have back up oxygen..if needed

Amazon sells the portable oxygen machines and the big ones for home use. The one we bought for my DH is exactly like the one my FIL has. No prescription required. We've had it for three years with no issues.

 

[hd5574]

Amazon sells the portable oxygen machines and the big ones for home use. The one we bought for my DH is exactly like the one my FIL has. No prescription required. We've had it for three years with no issues.

Great to know..thank you..

 

[John Deere Girl]

Great to know..thank you..

You're very welcome!

 

[Toosh]

... have demonstrated to show no efficiency in the past sporadic cases of zoonotic infections of H5N1 to humans

Same thing they said about covid

 

[Profit of Doom]

Same thing they said about covid

Kept finding “ trials show no effect” especially that one in Brazil. TOGETHER, wasn’t it? Randomize patients up to seven days after infection, start distributing next day. Dose for only three days, instead of 5-10 days, capping the dose at a certain body weight, prescribe on empty stomach instead of with fatty meal, what did I miss? Oh, yes, IVM was in common use in the area, and no attempt was made to control its use by the placebo group. Supposedly untreated patients would tend to be as healthy as the treated, therefore hiding the actual benefit. Even then, despite the biased abstract, the data actually shows benefit. Think how well it works when you don’t tie its shoelaces together.

 

[hd5574]

You're very welcome!

I went to Amazon and researched them..
It looks like the least expensive one with shipping and travel bag and required add-ons will cost north of $800..
That could be too expensive for most people..but it is less expensive than many of the name brand ones..

 

[Profit of Doom]

When you can would you post the new ones?

Are they all here?

I-CARE: RSV and Flu Treatment

I-CARE is a guide to diagnosing and managing influenza and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) infections in adults, developed by FLCCC.

covid19criticalcare.com

 

[Profit of Doom]

The bigger one.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/I-CARE-Flu-and-RSV-Protocol.pdf

 

[Profit of Doom]

Lot of detail in that last one. Tamiflu especially. Read everything carefully.

 

[hd5574]

The research I did on tamiflu.. indicated that it had to be taken in the first 48 hours of the onset of flu and it didn't cure it but rather minimized the symptoms..
The first 48 hours could be difficult...it takes longer to get a doctor's appointment in lots of placed these days.
It also seems that if there is a flu breakout.. that it sells out of the pharmacies and can be difficult to find a pharmacy to get a Rx filled.

 

[John Deere Girl]

I went to Amazon and researched them..
It looks like the least expensive one with shipping and travel bag and required add-ons will cost north of $800..
That could be too expensive for most people..but it is less expensive than many of the name brand ones..

We paid around $900 for the one my DH uses, but it was a must have for him, and even with his 02 dropping to 84, the VA refused to provide one. I'm so thankful we got him one!

 

[Profit of Doom]

The research I did on tamiflu.. indicated that it had to be taken in the first 48 hours of the onset of flu and it didn't cure it but rather minimized the symptoms..
The first 48 hours could be difficult...it takes longer to get a doctor's appointment in lots of placed these days.
It also seems that if there is a flu breakout.. that it sells out of the pharmacies and can be difficult to find a pharmacy to get a Rx filled.

All spot-on. Go buy your Sambucol or whatever, now. Some people take maintenance dose throughout flu season or whatever. If you do catch something, crank it up.

 

[Profit of Doom]

We paid around $900 for the one my DH uses, but it was a must have for him, and even with his 02 dropping to 84, the VA refused to provide one. I'm so thankful we got him one!

My wife was on oxygen before her intubation, paralysis, and eventual hospice. We considered getting a portable before then, but when she could no longer walk, it was pointless.