List of plants and a Back to Eden garden update

[changed]

At the Changed compound I have planted the following trees, bushes, and plants since about 2008:

4 Asian chestnut
2 Shellbark hickory
2 Asian pear
3 English walnut
1 Orient pear
1 Fig
2 Peach
2 Pecan
2 Plum
1 Cherry
2 Black mulberry
(Just planted 2 Paw paw and 3 Persimmon yesterday)

1 Pomegranate
2 European highbush cranberry
3 Grape
4 Raspberry
1 Blackberry
7 Blueberrry
Several Strawberry

Crimson clover
Lemon grass
Purple potatoes
Yellow potatoes
Russet potatoes
Asparagus
Broccoli
Yellow onions
Red onions

In the garden and around the trees and bushes. I have spread out wood chips as described in the Back to Eden film. My blueberries are overloaded with fruit. This was not the case last year. My grapevines are looking awesome and better than last year. My pecan seedlings look healthier than last year. The garden has a few weeds, but not nearly as many as in the past. Today, the wife asked me to go to the garden and cut some onion tops for cooking. Like in the BTE movie, when I cut the tops, a bunch of water came out of them. Cool. Sorry the camera is broke. I am trying to have as much plant diversity as possible. Are there any plants that grow well in the south that you don't see on my list? I haven't included citrus because we do get extended periods of frosty evenings.

 

[iboya]

This sounds wonderful. I'll be planting 12 more trees soon including 3 paw paws. Post some picures when you can.

 

[tm1439m]

Sounds great!

Do you have more than one variety of blueberry bushes? They say you need a mix to get better crops. I bought 7 plants this year and there are 3 different varieties. Not sure the names. Also there are some more compatible due to when they come in.

I also started two small patches of strawberries. I want to get a large patch going but it takes time.

I have not yet started any trees but hope to get them going in the next few years as well.

Good luck, sounds like you have got things going your way.

 

[changed]

I have at least two varieties of blueberries but I could not tell you what they are. I don't know.

 

[Vicki]

If I added all my herbs along with my fruit trees and veggies, I think I could beat that list. I started about 2000 though. lol Teasing ya Changed really although I'm not lying. I should make a list like that because I've noticed I lost my Lady's Mantle plants and there's probably a few others. An inventory is a good idea. Thanks for inspiring me Changed.

Hey, question for you gardners. I have been invited to a fair coming up in a month as a vendor and most of you probably know I make herbal crafts already. I have such a huge amount of non-hybrid seed that I was thinking I should try packaging some and selling it. If I did something like that, how many seeds would you put in a pack and what would be the price? Thanks for any help.

Btw, I've been working on my gardens and orchid for close to a month with this crazy nice weather we've gotten here and there. I'm getting ready to fertilize everything now and I trimmed bushes and trees about a month ago. Any recipes for homemade sprays would be great. I do have a garlic spray recipe and I also use chamomile spray. The chamomile works great for molds and fungus. If you're experiencing a wet climate, it will help. Garlic is antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral so that about covers diseases. Pests are another story.

You have a nice list there Changed. I know one of my varieties of blueberry is "the Patriot". Go figure.. lol

 

[changed]

"Garlic is antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral"

Its also an aphrodisiac.

Vicki, it wouldn't bother me if you have more kinds of plants. What kind do you suggest that I grow for additional food, pollinator attractant, or for improving soil fertility?

 

[Vicki]

"Garlic is antibacterial, antifungal and antiviral"

Its also an aphrodisiac.

Vicki, it wouldn't bother me if you have more kinds of plants. What kind do you suggest that I grow for additional food, pollinator attractant, or for improving soil fertility?

Kale, Collards and turnips. I planted them many years ago and they reseed themselves so easily. I've been giving away tons of kale plants and seeds to many people for years now. I have it growing everywhere and I love it. I steam it in salt water til it starts to soften which isn't only a few minutes. Strain it and cut out any stalks then chop it fine and throw it back into a pan with alittle butter. It's better than spinach. Sometimes I gather leaves and soak them slightly in olive oil, throw them on a cookie sheet and in the oven they go. Better than potato chips. I salt them first too or add a variety of spices. Whatever you like.

I have to walk around my yard and my garden before I do anything else and pull up the babies of various plants before I can start mowing for the season. Like I said, kale is one of them along with collards, turnips sometimes and rasberries and strawberries. heck even my garlic has traveled about. That's another to add. Garlic.

Carrots take two years to bear seed so I always leave some for the following year. I had to resort to growing my seed stock in a container to keep the deer from getting them in the winter. Many things like that you learn but it has to be based on your environment. It takes time but it's SO worth it.

 

[SuElPo]

What is a simple way to grow grapes?

susan - east tn

 

[changed]

I got my grape vines at Lowe's. They were about 8" tall. I planted them in the ground and recently put wood chip mulch down around them. They are doing well.

 

[Vicki]

I'll let you know how I do with my grapes this year. This will be my second year and I trimmed all the vines per instructions from numerous youtube vids showing the proper way to do it. I had grape vines years ago and never did anything with them at the time. They grew unbelievably and I had a good crop off from one variety but the other variety didn't do well at all. I finally tried transplanting them and they both doed on me. Last year I got 4 different varieties and was careful on where I put them as to not want to disturb them again. I'm wanting to fertilize them and need to go find out what they like. Think I'll do that now and add it to my to do list for the next few days. I'll let you know how I make out.

As far as soil goes Changed, I know I've posted this before but maybe not to one of your garden threads. It's about "The Three Sisters" and how they actually replenish the soil when planted together. Corn, Beans and Squash. Here's a link.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sisters_(agriculture)
and another... http://www.reneesgarden.com/articles/3sisters.html

 

[Vicki]

Ah, same as my orchid for fertilizer. That makes it easy. Here's a pretty good link for grapes..

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/1000/1423.html

Grapes perform best where the soil pH is between 5.0 and 6.0. Apply lime only when soil analysis indicates a need. Apply 8 ounces of 10-10-10 fertilizer per plant seven days after planting. Increase the amount of fertilizer to 1 pound of 10-10-10 in the second year and 11/2 pounds per vine in the third and later years about 30 days before new growth begins in the spring. Do not concentrate fertilizer at the base of the trunk. Keep fertilizer 6 to 12 inches from the trunk and spread evenly under the spread of the vine.

Figure 3. Reliance grape is one of the best tasting, red seedless table grape.

During the third season, some harvest may be expected from the vines. The first full crop, however, will not be produced until about the fourth or fifth year.

 

[West]

I would post pics of our BTE pics but the goats knocked down our temporary gate and eat half of everything. Of note well feed goats don't like cabbage and tomatoes. The buck destroyed a small plum tree and was half way through the second. They also left the rosemary, some other herbs and the peppers alone. The corn, Jewish artichokes, sunflowers, grapes, and broccoli was mowed down.

 

[changed]

Some of the additional things I would like to plant:

tobacco
cotton
almond
kiwi
apricot
alfalfa
rye

 

[naturallysweet]

I would post pics of our BTE pics but the goats knocked down our temporary gate and eat half of everything. Of note well feed goats don't like cabbage and tomatoes. The buck destroyed a small plumb tree and was half way threw the second. They also left the rosemary, some other herbs and the peppers alone. The corn, Jewish artichokes, sunflowers, grapes, and broccoli was mowed down.

I've been there. Somehow they always find a way to do something bad to the garden each year. The trick is to really like the goats. That way you could forgive them.

Or have a goat BBQ. Whichever works best for you.

 

[West]

I've been there. Somehow they always find a way to do something bad to the garden each year. The trick is to really like the goats. That way you could forgive them.

Or have a goat BBQ. Whichever works best for you.

Never! The little lovely manure spreaders and rag-weed/poison ivy eaters is all they got going for them at this point. If the buck wasn't doing such a good job he would be our guest of honor at the 4ths BBQ.

 

[Vicki]

Great picture West, thanks! It reminded me of an old super 8 reel my Grandmother took of me at Lollipop Farm near Rochester when I was about 7 or 8. She bought me a baby bottle there to feed the goats and then took pictures of me. I was trying to feed the goats but they wouldn't have nothing to do with it. They much preferred the taste of my pretty little blue dress. I cried. lol

 

[changed]

Some updated pics of wood chip garden.

 

[changed]

Lettuce and onions.

 

[changed]

Strawberries and other stuff.

 

[Vicki]

Beautiful Changed! You should see the weeds I have to pick tomorrow in mine. Argh...

Thank you for sharing those. It looks like so far it's doing the trick eh! You know I'm only waiting to see how you guys make out before I venture into doing it myself. I never did get to see that movie!

 

[packyderms_wife]

Lettuce and onions.

Looking good! What's with the bricks next to the lettuce?

 

[packyderms_wife]

Strawberries and other stuff.

I'm loving this, where is the link for the movie?

 

[changed]

Looking good! What's with the bricks next to the lettuce?

I guess the bricks are not needed. They are just there to delineate the walk path. The lettuce is on the far right. The onions are in the middle and the plants next to the bricks are some asian vegetable that my wife planted. I don't know its name, but its growing great.


www.backtoedenfilm.com

 

[changed]

Does anyone know what plant this is? I think I know, but will wait until I hear responses from others to say what I think.

 

[Vicki]

Does anyone know what plant this is? I think I know, but will wait until I hear responses from others to say what I think.

Looks like a potato plant.

 

[NC Susan]

What is a simple way to grow grapes? susan - east tn

the most amazing grape vine i ever saw was two old fashioned bed springs tied to 2 clothes line poles spaced about 10' apart. the grapes grew up thru the springs and across the clothes lines. Plenty of support for the weight. In the winter it was akward and odd looking but In the summer when i stood inside the grapes, there were bushel baskets hanging, all within easy grasp. a living rainbow of leaves and grapes.

around this region, most grapes are grown on metal tow cable suspended thru holes drilled in fence pickets. But this requires very long fence rows and alot of land.

I have an 8' tall privacy fence, and wild scuppernung grapes grow on it intermingled with English Ivy and wild roses. If it ever becomes time to fix, repair or pull the old fence i will make it the priority to ONLY allow grapes to grow on the fence.

Best way to know is to try. There are so many micro climates in every yard, that what grows well on one side of a house, may not grow at all on another....

and for every excellent year there will be a bad year and probably five regular years in between.
I agree with Changed as this seems to be an excellent year for blueberries and figs, but last year was awful.

 

[NC Susan]

Does anyone know what plant this is? I think I know, but will wait until I hear responses from others to say what I think.

i think it looks like an ink berry (weed)

 

[changed]

NC Susan, I thought it was tobacco.

 

[O2BNOK]

Does anyone know what plant this is? I think I know, but will wait until I hear responses from others to say what I think.

Poke weed. I think.

It's been so long since I've seen tobacco growing, you could be right.

 

[NC Susan]

Does anyone know what plant this is? I think I know, but will wait until I hear responses from others to say what I think.

YOUR image

and this is what i found when i google some images and paste

http://www.thesweetslife.com/2011/08/cheesecake-stuffed-strawberries.html#idc-cover

tobacco

what i called ink berry is what o2bnok is calling pokeweed

 

[NC Susan]

it very well looks more like tobacco.........and i dont seem to be able to upload a camera foto right now....will retry later.......

 

[changed]

If it is tobacco it is really strange because I planted tobacco seeds in that area two years ago, but it didn't grow. For it to grow now can only be explained by back to eden gardening.

 

[oops]

Be careful when dealing with goats that have eaten poison ivy...you can get it from their coats ...lesson I learned the hard way years ago....

Sorry this a reply to something west said above...