HEALTH Leprosy in the U.S.

[Babs]

It's not the disease, in this case, leprosy. It's the idea that we don't need to worry about any particular disease because it is "treatable," in this case, with antibiotics. The time is coming when we will not be able to treat many diseases because China has cut us off, we have no domestic production, and even if we did, no supply chain or economy to be able to get the needed medications.

I stated that it's treatable. What if's, didn't enter my equation, because they haven't happened yet. Worrying about "what if's" doesn't do anyone any good. And, imo, many of these types of posts are meant to make people worry.

As of today, this disease is treatable. And, if you think that I'm somehow being cavalier because I'm not going to jump on the terror wagon, then I don't know what else to say. Don't read things into my statements that are not there.

Today has enough worries of it's own.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

Smallpox scares me way more than Leprosy. That, and, antibiotic resistant TB.

Ebola and other hemorrhagic diseases are what scare me. Unless it comes to my immediate area, I'm not concerned about it, though.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

And, imo, many of these types of posts are meant to make people worry.

Or panic. I think most of the time it's deliberate. It's another form of "doom and gloom".

 

[school marm]

Smallpox scares me way more than Leprosy. That, and, antibiotic resistant TB.

As these diseases are a concern for you, what have you done to prepare for the possibility of them affecting you or your loved ones?

 

[33dInd]

First time I heard of leprocy was the movie Ben Hur 1959
First time I heard that armadillo had leprocy was also 1959. Tipton Oklahoma. From mom. We had an armadillo get in the yard and I was trying to catch it. I was 7. Okay.
Mom pinched me by the ear and toe walked me onto the porch and told me they carried leprocy and my nose and ears woul rot and fall off
She made her point and it stuck that far back
But. Tetnus. Now that scares the pee waddle outa me even today

 

[Babs]

As these diseases are a concern for you, what have you done to prepare for the possibility of them affecting you or your loved ones?

OPSEC.

 

[Siskiyoumom]

Interesting. A couple years ago, I felt led to research natural treatments for leprosy. I found an excellent article on it that details an African herb that has great results on it. It’s called Chaulmoogra. Unfortunately, the article I found it in has disappeared. Go figure.

Here one of many citations on the use of Chaulmoogra for leprosy.Many articles cited severe life threatening side effects with its use and that the straight oil has to be mixed with chemical carrier medium in order to inject it into the human blood stream.

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[psychgirl]

Though your correct
That’s not the point

The leprocy cropping up is not the result of armadillos
It’s from an insane party of this country
Letting all sorts of people with all sorts of dangerous bugs that had not occurred in our country in decades
Leprocy. Measles. Ebola.
Their talking small pox again
Monkey pox
Polio.
This is by design with intent to cause great harm to the indegenous people of this country

……..

 

[CELLO]

According to the Cleveland Clinic, treatment with the antibiotics rifampin, clofazimine, and dapsone lasts 1-2 years. Steroids are also needed.

Rifampin.... I wasn't aware that it is an antibiotic. In 2009 I was hospitalized heart attack for a few days in San Diego. They couldn't clear the blockage. I got out and pretty soon found out that I had MERSA in 3 places. I had a dermatologist appointment about a week or three later, and showed him the MERSA. He gave me two meds to kick it. One was a bottle of some strange antibiotic and the other was a bottle of RIFAMPIN. I spent 2 weeks in my bed which stayed like a swimming pool of sweat the whole time. I recall being delirious for two weeks until the fever broke. Thank God I had a girlfriend watching me or I don't think I would have survived that Rifampin.
It made my mouth feel like it was full of dirty pennies that whole two weeks, too.
Anybody else around here have that kind of fun taking Rifampin?

Oh, it did completely cure the MERSA.

 

[summerthyme]

Yep... I'm not picking on anyone here, but anytime someone dismisses a serious disease because "they've got a treatment for it", I know they have been blessed by not ever having to take some of the "miracle cures" out there.

An antifungal named Amphotericin B is commonly nicknamed "shake and bake" by medical professionals, for the extreme shaking chills and high fevers it commonly causes. And that's only the beginning...

There are drugs which truly seem worse than the disease.

Summerthyme

 

[JMG91]

I'm not personally worried about leprosy becoming an issue for me or my family. However, I do not understand the cavalier, "it's treatable" attitude, especially here among members who are supposedly somewhat aware of the precarious state of medical care and availability of critical medications in this country.

I spend a bit of time researching off-grid medicine and how we're going to make do when China cuts us off. I had never even heard of the antibiotics that treat leprosy until yesterday when I looked them up to post on this thread. Two of the antibiotics aren't sold by All Day Chemist. The third one, dapsone, is. And it is very reasonably priced at less than 2 cents per pill. Steroids are hard to get. Regardless, how much is it going to cost to treat a case of leprosy for one or two years.

And what side effects will those medications exert on your body? And who in their right mind thinks that they're going to be able to obtain these medications when our society collapses? And who thinks that the invaders, if they get diagnosed and start treatment, will continue treatment until cured? It's difficult enough for tuberculosis patients to remain compliant in good times. And this is just one disease.

I was finally able to find someone who was selling Chaulmoogra seeds today, and ordered them. It’s become my goal to grow things that will treat these third world diseases.

 

[helen]

I never said to panic.

Enjoy your hotdogs.

 

[JMG91]

Here one of many citations on the use of Chaulmoogra for leprosy.Many articles cited severe life threatening side effects with its use and that the straight oil has to be mixed with chemical carrier medium in order to inject it into the human blood stream.

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That is a fascinating article! Thank you!

 

[Tristan]

I was finally able to find someone who was selling Chaulmoogra seeds today, and ordered them. It’s become my goal to grow things that will treat these third world diseases.

Care to share?



The contact, that is.

 

[Tristan]

Yep... I'm not picking on anyone here, but anytime someone dismisses a serious disease because "they've got a treatment for it", I know they have been blessed by not ever having to take some of the "miracle cures" out there.

An antifungal named Amphotericin B is commonly nicknamed "shake and bake" by medical professionals, for the extreme shaking chills and high fevers it commonly causes. And that's only the beginning...

There are drugs which truly seem worse than the disease.

Summerthyme

Two thumbs up, way up!

 

[Ractivist]

Saw a large middle easterner on the beach in Florida three or so years ago. Male, covered in open sores. He was wearing a speedo, and the sores were from foot to head...... not sure if anyone turned him in, I was about fifteen yards out in the salt water, and made a wide berth back to land.

 

[JMG91]

Care to share?



The contact, that is.

Chaulmoogra Seeds Traditional Medicinal Marotti 10 Seeds for Wellness & Holistic Care - Etsy

 

[jed turtle]

Chaulmoogra Seeds Traditional Medicinal Marotti 10 Seeds for Wellness & Holistic Care - Etsy

Thanks for the link! I read about chaulmoogra earlier today on a Rumor Mill article about leprosy and the chaulmoogra herbal treatment for it.

 

[Tristan]

too quick on the trigger... :/

 

[Johnny Twoguns]

Better get ready for all sorts of medical nightmares to start hitting the US.....why? Because of these OVERWHELMING INVADERS crossing our boarders unrelentingly AND with assistance of our very own government. Diseases unheard of here in North American and diseases that have been eradicated from our country and going to start showing up!!

Yep.

 

[helen]

I never said you should panic.

You should avoid getting sick and having accidents.


American patients are enduring longer wait times for doctor appointments due to a nursing shortage in the state, two health care professionals told The Epoch Times in January.

A health care worker at a hospital in Southern California, who asked not to be named for fear of losing her job, told The Epoch Times that “the entire health care system is just being bombarded” by a steady stream of illegal immigrants.

“Our healthcare system is so overwhelmed, and then add on top of that tuberculosis, COVID-19, and other diseases from all over the world,” she said.

Illegal Immigrants Leave US Hospitals With Billions In Unpaid Bills | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[ainitfunny]

Most of these third world populations are also infected with numerous parasites. An internal parasite load that would probably kill an American. If they have malaria their mosquito bites will give Malaria back to our American mosquitos, then to US!

 

[willowlady]

Though your correct
That’s not the point

The leprocy cropping up is not the result of armadillos
It’s from an insane party of this country
Letting all sorts of people with all sorts of dangerous bugs that had not occurred in our country in decades
Leprocy. Measles. Ebola.
Their talking small pox again
Monkey pox
Polio.
This is by design with intent to cause great harm to the indegenous people of this country

I thought small pox had officially been eradicated from earth. Even then my question was: where did it originate in the first place? IOW, it wouldn't surprise me if it made a comeback.

My dad had malaria during WWII, but antibiotics kicked it (first place they were used was the military). He had a resurgence of it after WWII and was told if it comes back again it will likely kill him. It did. Most likely because the VA docs were all so young they didn't recognize it until, after my mom told them about his history, it was too late.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

In reality, none of us have any idea what kind of diseases are going to get turned loose is this country, or around the world for that matter. We know they're coming, though. The bible tells us so. All I'm saying is that we don't need to live in fear or panic over it, especially when something new pops on the radar. Yes, we all need to be aware, especially, if it's in your neighborhood.

There are just too many diseases out there, dangerous and deadly ones, that no one is going to be able to grow the cure or treatment in their back yards or stock up on enough antibiotics and other meds to combat every one of them. We can prepare the best we can and leave the rest in God's hands.

 

[school marm]

I thought small pox had officially been eradicated from earth. Even then my question was: where did it originate in the first place? IOW, it wouldn't surprise me if it made a comeback.

Smallpox has officially been eradicated. There haven't been any cases reported in decades. However, the US and Russia officially have it in their research labs.

Interestingly, smallpox vials were found at a research lab in Philadelphia in 2021.

Vials labeled smallpox found at research facility in Pennsylvania
FBI investigating vials labeled smallpox

Then we have Bill Gates wondering what would happen if a terrorist took smallpox to some airports.

Gates Germ-Game Warning...

We have SIGA Technologies manufacturing smallpox vaccines for the government.

SIGA announces.... Oral TPOXX

We have the Dark Winter senior level exercise held 20 years ago.

Biden, Fauci, and Trump mentioned "dark winter" a bit in 2021.

 

[33dInd]

I thought small pox had officially been eradicated from earth. Even then my question was: where did it originate in the first place? IOW, it wouldn't surprise me if it made a comeback.

It was almost
But some dumbutt in govt decided they should keep it alive in a biolab
Now
The news is talking about developing a vaccine
You knoww
Just in case

 

[SouthernBreeze]

It was almost
But some dumbutt in govt decided they should keep it alive in a biolab
Now
The news is talking about developing a vaccine
You knoww
Just in case

A vaccine is the only way to guard against an outbreak of smallpox. IF anyone wants to take the vaccine. I don't think any herbal meds or tinctures is going to cut it. There are only a handful of antiviruls that are used to treat it, and I don't know if AllDayChemist carry those, or if people know what they are. Even if they did, would you be able to get them?

 

[JMG91]

A vaccine is the only way to guard against an outbreak of smallpox. IF anyone wants to take the vaccine. I don't think any herbal meds or tinctures is going to cut it. There are only a handful of antiviruls that are used to treat it, and I don't know if AllDayChemist carry those, or if people know what they are. Even if they did, would you be able to get them?

Untrue, actually. Tincture of the purple pitcher plant has been shown to rid a person of symptoms in less than 24 hours--including those who are in the advanced stage. It's a very powerful medicine, and the indigenous people knew that. A vaccine is more likely to kill you than cure you.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

Untrue, actually. Tincture of the purple pitcher plant has been shown to rid a person of symptoms in less than 24 hours--including those who are in the advanced stage. It's a very powerful medicine, and the indigenous people knew that. A vaccine is more likely to kill you than cure you.

I'll concede to that. I don't know all the herbal cures and treatments out there. I was only going on my own research of the smallpox virus. I guess we all need to stock up on the Purple Pitcher Plant and know how to use it, then.

I'm not advocating people taking any kind of vaccine, especially, since Covid. I have received the smallpox vaccine, though, as a child.

Point being. There are so many different diseases, known and unknown, that we can't possibly know the homegrown and medical treatments (if any exist) for all of them. All we can do is to use common sense and prepare the best we can.

 

[school marm]

A vaccine is the only way to guard against an outbreak of smallpox. IF anyone wants to take the vaccine. I don't think any herbal meds or tinctures is going to cut it. There are only a handful of antiviruls that are used to treat it, and I don't know if AllDayChemist carry those, or if people know what they are. Even if they did, would you be able to get them?

Preparing for Bioweapons: Smallpox

Sometime after I wrote that article, I came across research on nitazoxanide as a potential treatment for smallpox. Nitazoxanide is an antiprotozoal drug approved by the USFDA for treating crytosporidiosis and giardiasis. It has also been shown effective against some bacteria and viruses.

I apparently only briefly researched it and never wrote an article on it, so I have nothing further than this link to post. It's a pretty technical article, not for the faint of heart.

Inhibition of vaccinia virus replication by nitazoxanide

ETA: IIRC, Sarracenia purpurea was used by Native Americans to treat smallpox. It does not grow anywhere near me, so I haven't studied it and can't comment any further. But there has been much discussion on it here on TB2K.

 

[JMG91]

I'll concede to that. I don't know all the herbal cures and treatments out there. I was only going on my own research of the smallpox virus. I guess we all need to stock up on the Purple Pitcher Plant and know how to use it, then.

I'm not advocating people taking any kind of vaccine, especially, since Covid. I have received the smallpox vaccine, though, as a child.

Point being. There are so many different diseases, known and unknown, that we can't possibly know the homegrown and medical treatments (if any exist) for all of them. All we can do is to use common sense and prepare the best we can.

That Amish Ways website that someone posted on here several years ago actually sells it. I was planning to order some to keep on hand since I always manage to murder my purple pitcher plants.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

Preparing for Bioweapons: Smallpox

Sometime after I wrote that article, I came across research on nitazoxanide as a potential treatment for smallpox. Nitazoxanide is an antiprotozoal drug approved by the USFDA for treating crytosporidiosis and giardiasis. It has also been shown effective against some bacteria and viruses.

I apparently only briefly researched it and never wrote an article on it, so I have nothing further than this link to post. It's a pretty technical article, not for the faint of heart.

Inhibition of vaccinia virus replication by nitazoxanide

I read nothing that indicates it's a cure or valid treatment for smallpox. But smallpox is only a known disease. What about those coming in the future we know nothing about. Or those with no known cure or treatment that exist now?

I don't think we need to focus only on one disease.

I will also add this. I am a firm believer in herbal and home remedies. I always go to those first, before seeking medical help. I have many books on home remedies and herbal medicine.

 

[school marm]

I read nothing that indicates it's a cure or valid treatment for smallpox. But smallpox is only a known disease. What about those coming in the future we know nothing about. Or those with no known cure or treatment that exist now?

That's what research is for.

I haven't the time to research any other articles on the topic right now. I shouldn't even be doing this. My daughter si getting married next week and I have to make the cake today.

The one article I linked above indicates that nitazoxanide inhibits vaccinia virus replication--it's an antiviral. And their research demonstrated efficacy against vaccinia virus--smallpox. And the authors of that article stated that they do not yet understand how nitazoxanide acts. Further research is needed. As that article was published in 2018, there have probably been more articles published. I don't have time to look right now.

I'm sorry, I was going to reply to the last two sentences copied above also, but I just don't have time. Basically, it's research and stocking up on pharmaceuticals and herbals--supplies and knowledge--as well as possible.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

That's what research is for.

I haven't the time to research any other articles on the topic right now. I shouldn't even be doing this. My daughter si getting married next week and I have to make the cake today.

The one article I linked above indicates that nitazoxanide inhibits vaccinia virus replication--it's an antiviral. And their research demonstrated efficacy against vaccinia virus--smallpox. And the authors of that article stated that they do not yet understand how nitazoxanide acts. Further research is needed. As that article was published in 2018, there have probably been more articles published. I don't have time to look right now.

I'm sorry, I was going to reply to the last two sentences copied above also, but I just don't have time. Basically, it's research and stocking up on pharmaceuticals and herbals--supplies and knowledge--as well as possible.

That's ok, school marm. I do admire the time you spend on research.

 

[ainitfunny]

A vaccine is the only way to guard against an outbreak of smallpox. IF anyone wants to take the vaccine. I don't think any herbal meds or tinctures is going Xsan to cut it. There are only a handful of antiviruls that are used to treat it, and I don't know if AllDayChemist carry those, or if people know what they are. Even if they did, would you be able to get them?

Ahh...wait a minute.
There ARE "natural" methods to Prevent smallpox!
REMEMEMBER Cowpox, taking fluid from a cow with a cowpox blister, and breaking your skin ( scratches no bigger than a nickel to a quarter) with serious scratches and applying the fltuid from the cow's blister TOPICALLY to your scratched skin (WITH THE BLISTER FLUID ) FROM the cow to infect yourself with cowpox was
the first EFFECTIVE smallpox VACCINE!
They never INJECTED THE cowpox fluid
If you get a blister there several days later, you were successfully Vaccinated against smallpox!

 

[PalmettoGirl]

Armadillos are all over the low country and the midlands. I'm surprised they've not shown up in the upstate. Is that where you are?

I’ve seen them on Wadmalaw Island many times.

 

[helen]

Point being. There are so many different diseases, known and unknown, that we can't possibly know the homegrown and medical treatments (if any exist) for all of them. All we can do is to use common sense and prepare the best we can.

So it's ok for me post on leprosy becoming a problem in Florida? Seems like common sense to know about it, since it was a news article and all.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

So it's ok for me post on leprosy becoming a problem in Florida? Seems like common sense to know about it, since it was a news article and all.

And your point is? Nothing wrong with posting articles, but when you start you posts with "God Almighty" it reeks of fear and panic.

Leprosy is nothing new to the US. 150-250 cases diagnosed in this country every year.

 

[helen]

I can't use a common Latin phrase and now I can't say two words other people here have posted.

Ok. Have it your way.

 

[jed turtle]

Preparing for Bioweapons: Smallpox

Sometime after I wrote that article, I came across research on nitazoxanide as a potential treatment for smallpox. Nitazoxanide is an antiprotozoal drug approved by the USFDA for treating crytosporidiosis and giardiasis. It has also been shown effective against some bacteria and viruses.

I apparently only briefly researched it and never wrote an article on it, so I have nothing further than this link to post. It's a pretty technical article, not for the faint of heart.

Inhibition of vaccinia virus replication by nitazoxanide

ETA: IIRC, Sarracenia purpurea was used by Native Americans to treat smallpox. It does not grow anywhere near me, so I haven't studied it and can't comment any further. But there has been much discussion on it here on TB2K.

Cliff high mentioned in one of his podcasts some time ago that some small village in Siberia which was so poor that they couldn’t afford coffee, but we’re still drinking Chaga as a hot beverage, were The only community that didn’t come down with smallpox the last time it passed through there.