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Nolte: Kristi Noem Shot Her Dog and Political Future in the Head

Gov. Kristi Noem (R-SD) has committed the most astounding act of political suicide since Gary Hart.
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Kristi Noem Shot Her Dog and Political Future in the Head​


Gov. Kristi Noem (R-SD) has committed the most astounding act of political suicide since Gary Hart.

By many accounts, Noem, a popular governor with a growing national brand, was on former President Trump’s vice presidential shortlist. Even if he didn’t choose her, there was little doubt Noem had a political future—she’s a beauty with made-for-TV looks, conservative, rural, and, in this era consumed by identity politics, being a woman doesn’t hurt. One could easily see her assuming a role in a future President Trump’s cabinet, and then running for president in 2028.

Not anymore.

In her upcoming political book, No Going Back, undoubtedly written to boost her chances of becoming Trump’s VP pick, Noem…

  1. Admits to shooting a 14-month-old puppy in the head.
  2. Portrays the shooting of a 14-month-old puppy in the head as a virtuous act of leadership that proves she’s ready to make the tough decisions.
According to the far-left Guardian’s account of Noem’s story (which Noem has not disputed), here’s how it went down…

“Cricket was a wirehair pointer, about 14 months old,” Noem writes, adding that the female dog had an “aggressive personality.” Noem took the dog pheasant hunting, hoping to calm her down by teaching her to hunt. Instead, Cricket ruined everything by going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life.”

After that disastrous hunt, Noem said she stopped to see a neighbor. Cricket then jumped out of the truck and ravaged the neighbor’s chickens, “grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another.” When Noem grabbed the dog’s collar to stop the chicken massacre, Noem said Cricket “whipped around to bite me.”

Noem claims the dog acted like a “trained assassin” that day, but was also “the picture of pure joy.”

Noem admitted that she “hated that dog” and decided Cricket was “untrainable [and] dangerous to anyone she came in contact with.”

“At that moment,” Noem says, “I realized I had to put her down.” And so…

Noem took Cricket out to a gravel pit and shot her dead.

Elsewhere in the book, Noem tells the story of putting down a “nasty and mean” goat the same way in the same gravel pit.

On Sunday, after the puppycide story broke, Noem released a Xwitter statement that said in part:

I can understand why some people are upset about a 20 year old story of Cricket, one of the working dogs at our ranch, in my upcoming book — No Going Back. The book is filled with many honest stories of my life, good and bad days, challenges, painful decisions, and lessons learned.
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Whether running the ranch or in politics, I have never passed on my responsibilities to anyone else to handle. Even if it’s hard and painful. I followed the law and was being a responsible parent, dog owner, and neighbor.
As I explained in the book, it wasn’t easy. But often the easy way isn’t the right way.
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Uhm, no.

Choosing to shoot a 14-month-old dog is what’s “easy.” The “right way” is to accept what it means when you voluntarily assume responsibility for a life. Noem should have taken the time to train Cricket, hired someone else to train her, or put her up for adoption.

Shooting a 14-month-old dog for acting like a 14-month-old dog is reprehensible.

Admitting you shot a 14-month-old dog for acting like a 14-month-old dog in a political book meant to boost your national profile is unforgivable. All Noem has proven is that she is too tone-deaf and lacking in political judgment to be on the national stage.

She will forever be the Lady Puppy Killer.

The jokes will never end.

And she deserves it.

Who shoots a rambunctious 14-month-old dog? Noem even admits the dog was “the picture of pure joy.” So Cricket was not a mean dog. She was immature. That is a dog you can work with.

If an older dog starts biting, that’s a different story. Something’s wrong. I just went through that over Christmas. It wasn’t even my dog, but I’m the one who got bit, and the whole ordeal was heartbreaking. If I were to tell that story, it would be one filled with sadness and regret. The last words I would use would be “hate” or “useless.” I’m still sick over it.

One of my dogs mercilessly bullied his little brother and would regularly nip at me. This went on for at least 18 months. Today, Frankie is ten, and we can’t imagine life without him.

And not for a second do I buy this nonsense about how difficult rural life is. My grandparents were dairy farmers, and in their seventies (when 70 was old), they ended up with a useless dog that could not be trained. They didn’t put it down (and my grandfather was capable of such a thing when necessary). Instead, they built it a shelter inside a fenced pasture. Every day, winter and summer, that dog was fed until it died of natural causes.

Whether it’s a goldfish or a dog, when you assume responsibility for a life, that should mean something more than putting a bullet in its head when it becomes inconvenient.

Noem writes that moments after she shot Cricket, the school bus arrived to drop off her kids… “Kennedy looked around confused,” Noem writes of her daughter, who then asked: “Hey, where’s Cricket?”

Man alive.
 
BadMedicine

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
Meh. If a man doesn't own his dog, he don't own anything. I agree she didn't HAVE TO shoot the dog... but farmers ad business folk know one thing.... there's a sliding scale of how much you can pay for anything.... and doing it yourself usually cheapest.

I agree the feeeeeewings of a substantial sector are going to make political life not easy.
 
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Walrus

Veteran Member
Better this happens now than in the middle of a heated, razor-focused election campaign in which emotion overcomes logic and reality. It could still be a simmering disaster out there and the leftists will use it if they think they can gain some temporary political advantage. She's shown that she doesn't have the discernment for surviving on the international stage.

Kristi Noem is a realist who was raised in real circumstances. But she is guilty of poor judgment in opening herself up to the howling self-righteousness of the "shoulda" crowd. Avoiding the spectre of death is uppermost in the minds of that crowd.

The only thing she shoulda done is to keep her mouth shut. Having to kill a critter on a ranch is just one of those things which happens from time to time, and circumstances are usually different for each one. And it's expensive and a cop-out of one's stewardship to call out a vet for each time. City folks can't handle the thought of it. That's why it's going to be almost impossible for them to survive the coming unpleasantness.
 
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bw

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I wonder if she was encouraged to write this by someone who wanted to sabotage her chances. It's tone-deaf beyond belief, but if phrased right could be made to sound like a strong leader action. Trust me Kristi, it will make you look great.
 
Reasonable Rascal

Reasonable Rascal

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People can think what they will but she didn't do anything I haven't heard of others doing over the decades. One place I worked for 10 years had a local expression: sandwich dog. That is how the dog would be lured out of sight so your buddies could do the deed for you that you didn't have the heart to carry put yourself.

So, who isn't going to vote for her in the future? Anyone who would have otherwise voted for her now? Sorry, but I cannot see how this is an indication of how she would govern in a higher office differently than she has so far.

RR
 
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PrairieMoon

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For those you who were raised on the farm, or farm now, you know there is no tolerance for uncontrollable dogs. My grandpa had to put more than one dog down. And sounds like the dog had an aggressive streak. People don't like their livestock messed with or killed. She was actually quite responsible in this case. At least according to rural life in the midwest.
 
day late

day late

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After that disastrous hunt, Noem said she stopped to see a neighbor. Cricket then jumped out of the truck and ravaged the neighbor’s chickens, “grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another.” When Noem grabbed the dog’s collar to stop the chicken massacre, Noem said Cricket “whipped around to bite me.”
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A dog, no matter how well trained, attacking a farmers livestock is just cause for putting the animal down. The other choice is a feud with your neighbor. That often doesn't end well.
 
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Walrus

Veteran Member
Even if you have to (or decide to) kill a dog, Broken Arrow's mention of SSS is more appropriate than ever. If you shoot your own dog or someone else's, you don't go down to the coffee or barber shop the next day and tell about it.

The dog disappears and no one knows why. In my neck of the woods I'm not the only object of suspicion in that regard, so it's all good.
 
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SAPPHIRE

Veteran Member
If an animal has vicious aggressive tendencies and accelerates then IMO it should be put down. The city bobbleheads have no clue. What if it savaged a child? Oh, how the bobbleheads would howl all the while voting for abortion and stand in line for more boosters.

Farm/rural life has lots of hard facts and doings. Snowflakes, volunteer to take these creatures into YOUR HOMELIFE and see how it WORKS FOR YOU !
 
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WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Sometimes animals are just wrong in the head. Given this lady's background, I expect she probably knows how to recognize that. A rogue animal that's your animal is your responsibility to deal with. Wish more people saw it that way.

A bullet to the brain if done right, is just as humane if not more so than dragging them in to the vet.
 
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Squid

Veteran Member
When I want to know who to support The Gardian is my absolute first source on ANYTHING.


Bbbbwwwwaaaaa

Pretty sure The Gardian is also warning us in the US against The Trumpster.

So count me in and provide more thoughtful Euro Socialist propaganda to help my little mind sort out US freakin domestic politics.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Walrus said:
Better this happens now than in the middle of a heated, razor-focused election campaign in which emotion overcomes logic and reality. It could still be a simmering disaster out there and the leftists will use it if they think they can gain some temporary political advantage. She's shown that she doesn't have the discernment for surviving on the international stage.

Kristi Noem is a realist who was raised in real circumstances. But she is guilty of poor judgment in opening herself up to the howling self-righteousness of the "shoulda" crowd. Avoiding the spectre of death is uppermost in the minds of that crowd.

The only thing she shoulda done is to keep her mouth shut. Having to kill a critter on a ranch is just one of those things which happens from time to time, and circumstances are usually different for each one. And it's expensive and a cop-out of one's stewardship to call out a vet for each time. City folks can't handle the thought of it. That's why it's going to be almost impossible for them to survive the coming unpleasantness.
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I agree, however, if she was to be Trumps veep, you know someone is gonna call her out on shooting her dog. City folk don't understand putting a worthless dog down, hence the reason. you see so many dangerous dogs in the city attacking kids, adults, and other animals. Around these parts pitbulls get put down, no questions asked.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
PrairieMoon said:
For those you who were raised on the farm, or farm now, you know there is no tolerance for uncontrollable dogs. My grandpa had to put more than one dog down. And sounds like the dog had an aggressive streak. People don't like their livestock messed with or killed. She was actually quite responsible in this case. At least according to rural life in the midwest.
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this^^^
 
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Publius

TB Fanatic
The dog seems to take sport with killing chickens and the only way to stop it is to kill the dog.
It's no joke that dog will try with every chance it would get to run next door to chase and kill chickens.
Just about every state in the union has laws on the books about predatory dogs and livestock and the owner of the livestock can kill the dog and in some cases the state officer will give the dog owner a choice and that hand the dog over to the livestock owner to kill it or the owner of the dog kill the dog.
 
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Countrymouse

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
day late said:
A dog, no matter how well trained, attacking a farmers livestock is just cause for putting the animal down. The other choice is a feud with your neighbor. That often doesn't end well.
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I always heard that once a predator animal got the "taste of blood", there was no going back.

So if you are a chicken farmer, or a cattle rancher---are you going to keep poor little mentally-disordered Fido who needs "re-training", or are you going to eliminate a threat to your flock/herd/livelihood?

Choose.


The murderer or the victims.

Our society would be better off if our judges / legal system had the SAME outlook--as they once (way WAY back long time ago) did.
 
L.A.B.

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
It could have been worse.

It could have been a Giant Poodle, in which case she would have to borrow The Former Alaskan governors .50 Beowulf Poodle-Shooter, and light it uP!

Lite-humor… Posted by a forum member who 55 years ago, hid the identity of a GSD’s bite, the huge bruise and broken skin on my lower inner left thigh at bathing time with a wash cloth.

I was already in possession of knowledge at that time, that in the mid-1960’s, that it may / may not become a death warrant for that dog, and some pretty invasive jabbing for myself.

Never told my parents. Ever.

Born Year of The Dog. Sometimes I think part Wolf…
 
psychgirl

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Doughboy42 said:
Too bad. This was a story that didn't need to be told.
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It was a bad move.

When I was five years old we had a beautiful Dalmatian.
We lived way out in the country so when Duke got running with a pack of wild dogs, the sheriff came out.
……with his shotgun because they’d gotten into a huge sheep farmer’s stock.
The other dogs shredded one of those sheep.

Our Duke came happily running back with his tongue hanging out right towards the sheriff. Not a drop of blood was to be seen on his muzzle but he was gone in one shot.

It was devastating. Still remember that to this day. :bwl:
But the sheep farmer wins that argument.



We just had to euthanize a dog last week for snapping at his owners face.
She’s about to have a child so they made the hard choice to handle it. Being in a shelter would have been way worse.

These things happen but you don’t tell everyone if you want to be president.
 
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Johnny Twoguns

Senior Member
Intestinal Fortitude said:
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Nolte: Kristi Noem Shot Her Dog and Political Future in the Head

Gov. Kristi Noem (R-SD) has committed the most astounding act of political suicide since Gary Hart.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com

Kristi Noem Shot Her Dog and Political Future in the Head​


Gov. Kristi Noem (R-SD) has committed the most astounding act of political suicide since Gary Hart.

By many accounts, Noem, a popular governor with a growing national brand, was on former President Trump’s vice presidential shortlist. Even if he didn’t choose her, there was little doubt Noem had a political future—she’s a beauty with made-for-TV looks, conservative, rural, and, in this era consumed by identity politics, being a woman doesn’t hurt. One could easily see her assuming a role in a future President Trump’s cabinet, and then running for president in 2028.

Not anymore.

In her upcoming political book, No Going Back, undoubtedly written to boost her chances of becoming Trump’s VP pick, Noem…

  1. Admits to shooting a 14-month-old puppy in the head.
  2. Portrays the shooting of a 14-month-old puppy in the head as a virtuous act of leadership that proves she’s ready to make the tough decisions.
According to the far-left Guardian’s account of Noem’s story (which Noem has not disputed), here’s how it went down…

“Cricket was a wirehair pointer, about 14 months old,” Noem writes, adding that the female dog had an “aggressive personality.” Noem took the dog pheasant hunting, hoping to calm her down by teaching her to hunt. Instead, Cricket ruined everything by going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life.”

After that disastrous hunt, Noem said she stopped to see a neighbor. Cricket then jumped out of the truck and ravaged the neighbor’s chickens, “grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another.” When Noem grabbed the dog’s collar to stop the chicken massacre, Noem said Cricket “whipped around to bite me.”

Noem claims the dog acted like a “trained assassin” that day, but was also “the picture of pure joy.”

Noem admitted that she “hated that dog” and decided Cricket was “untrainable [and] dangerous to anyone she came in contact with.”

“At that moment,” Noem says, “I realized I had to put her down.” And so…

Noem took Cricket out to a gravel pit and shot her dead.

Elsewhere in the book, Noem tells the story of putting down a “nasty and mean” goat the same way in the same gravel pit.

On Sunday, after the puppycide story broke, Noem released a Xwitter statement that said in part:


Uhm, no.

Choosing to shoot a 14-month-old dog is what’s “easy.” The “right way” is to accept what it means when you voluntarily assume responsibility for a life. Noem should have taken the time to train Cricket, hired someone else to train her, or put her up for adoption.

Shooting a 14-month-old dog for acting like a 14-month-old dog is reprehensible.

Admitting you shot a 14-month-old dog for acting like a 14-month-old dog in a political book meant to boost your national profile is unforgivable. All Noem has proven is that she is too tone-deaf and lacking in political judgment to be on the national stage.

She will forever be the Lady Puppy Killer.

The jokes will never end.

And she deserves it.

Who shoots a rambunctious 14-month-old dog? Noem even admits the dog was “the picture of pure joy.” So Cricket was not a mean dog. She was immature. That is a dog you can work with.

If an older dog starts biting, that’s a different story. Something’s wrong. I just went through that over Christmas. It wasn’t even my dog, but I’m the one who got bit, and the whole ordeal was heartbreaking. If I were to tell that story, it would be one filled with sadness and regret. The last words I would use would be “hate” or “useless.” I’m still sick over it.

One of my dogs mercilessly bullied his little brother and would regularly nip at me. This went on for at least 18 months. Today, Frankie is ten, and we can’t imagine life without him.

And not for a second do I buy this nonsense about how difficult rural life is. My grandparents were dairy farmers, and in their seventies (when 70 was old), they ended up with a useless dog that could not be trained. They didn’t put it down (and my grandfather was capable of such a thing when necessary). Instead, they built it a shelter inside a fenced pasture. Every day, winter and summer, that dog was fed until it died of natural causes.

Whether it’s a goldfish or a dog, when you assume responsibility for a life, that should mean something more than putting a bullet in its head when it becomes inconvenient.

Noem writes that moments after she shot Cricket, the school bus arrived to drop off her kids… “Kennedy looked around confused,” Noem writes of her daughter, who then asked: “Hey, where’s Cricket?”

Man alive.
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If the story of the chickens is true then the dog was a killer and needed to be put down. If it instead had launched itself at a child you would scream for it to be put down.

I didn't grow up on a farm but I was on and around farms a lot. Most farmers, ranchers, people in the boonies don't waste much gas and time on a bad animal.

What are you going to do with the millions of illegals when they go rogue and there is no more law and order and they kill your livestock out of cruelty? Put them in a pen and feed them until they die of natural causes?
 
dioptase

dioptase

Veteran Member
My knee jerk reaction to this was that she could have handled it better, by adopting the animals out.

But then, I'm just an emotion driven city dweller, and you all have given me an education that I'd rather not have.

That said, I devoutly hope Trump doesn't pick her as VP, because I'd have a hard time voting for her. And I can just about guarantee that other dog-loving urban Republicans (yes, we exist) would feel similarly. If she has trashed her political career because of this, well, not feeling sorry for her, not one bit.
 
Cacheman

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
This made me remember something I saw as a kid, the neighbors Collie kept chasing our sheep on our side of the road, he told Dad he'd get a handle on it. Dad went over when a Ewe was killed and there was only one guilty party since there was blood on the fur when he called her in. He saw it, went in his house and came out and shot her. Life is different living in rural areas.
Good fences are good neighbors.and so are good dogs.
 
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MountainBiker

Veteran Member
Her cluelessness as to how her account of killing the dog would come across to the overwhelming majority of the general public fairly well shouts she is not ready for prime time and that she is out of touch with the general public. Relatively few people in this country were raised on a farm, a fact that she apparently doesn't understand. Her inability to read the room so to speak suggests she'd be putting her foot in it again and again domestically and internationally were she the VP. Surely she could have come up with a more acceptable example of how she demonstrates leadership. She will never be able to completely get past this.
 
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aznurse

Veteran Member
So, is the consensus that a dog should 'know' not to go after 'farm animals'. Since dogs are descendents of wolves, there can be a predisposition to go after prey. I would suggest training is the answer.
 
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