OP-ED Kavanaugh Has The Votes, But Are We Prepared For What Follows?

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Posted at 6:00 am on September 28, 2018
by Joe Cunningham

https://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2018/09/28/kavanaugh-votes-prepared-follows/


Following the hearing on Brett Kavanaugh, word started trickling out that the Republicans in the Senate had the votes to confirm him.

Despite everything that has gone on since his initial public hearings had concluded, Kavanaugh is set to become the next Supreme Court Justice, and the second one nominated by Donald Trump. If that is the case, then conservatives can rejoice.

Given the tactics, the outrage, the threats, and the insanity that we’ve seen, the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh is going to cause a lot of public protesting… and worse.

Activists have already shown a proclivity toward mob rule and violence. That will continue, and increase, as the process moves on. There will be another scheduled “Women’s March” in protest of his swearing in. There will be people in the streets targeting anyone who wears an American flag or has a MAGA hat. There will be violence.

I am not saying this to discourage Republicans. On the contrary, I think it’s more important than ever to show people who would use those tactics that they don’t work, that you cannot intimidate conservatives into changing their minds. To do so only invites worse behavior.

I don’t like what’s happened, and I don’t like what’s going to happen. But you know it’s going to happen. The plans are likely already underway.

If I’m wrong, and they don’t happen, then great. Maybe that’s progress. I just don’t think that a group of people who have been whipped into a frenzy are going to stop and take a deep breath here. They are going to protest harder.

As I said last night, this whole process has been a tragedy. I am very worried, however, that it’s only going to get uglier.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
We are moving down the slippery slope. The speed is picking up and things will only get worse as time progresses.
 

rlm1966

Veteran Member
As unhinged and unethical the left has become and the words coming out of the mouths of their high profile members and supporters I would not be surprised if some nut takes it to heart and tries to take out Kavanaugh or one of the republicans that was DOXed by some idiot in the house. Then all bets are off.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
As unhinged and unethical the left has become and the words coming out of the mouths of their high profile members and supporters I would not be surprised if some nut takes it to heart and tries to take out Kavanaugh or one of the republicans that was DOXed by some idiot in the house. Then all bets are off.

They better find that doxxer and prosecute them EXTREMELY publicly, and very quickly. The congressional IT folks should be able to do that, especially if congressional IT assets were used.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Honestly, this has worried me too; the Democrats (sadly) have decided to use "trigger politics" relying on the emotional reactions of many people (some of whom are women who have been assaulted or raped and not believed or didn't report) to get people to react in an unhinged manner joined to the already growing tendency to mob attacks and violence that has been on-going with everything from statues to protesting speakers in colleges.

The conservative side isn't blameless in all the polarization but they didn't open this particular can of worms; the backlash from this is going to be terrible and I agree the potential for someone(s) to get seriously hurt is strong as is the resulting backlash.

By playing "trigger" politics, I'm not sure these people have any idea what a can of worms they may have opened up; though I think Finestein may have started to get a clue during that one unguarded moment when she was pushed against the wall for holding things back for weeks and waiting to pounce.

My thought was "too late lady, you've called the wind and now everyone may have to live with the whirlwind."
 

jward

passin' thru
I don't expect ongoing protests. The mindless mobs will be directed to the next shiny outrage.

Maybe they'll scream at the sky over this until the mid terms, but after?!
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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I'm wondering if RBG will throw in the towel?

If Kavanaough is seated, her commie activism will be thwarted.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I don't expect ongoing protests. The mindless mobs will be directed to the next shiny outrage.

Maybe they'll scream at the sky over this until the mid terms, but after?!

I hope you are right, but sadly I don't expect this; not this time.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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They better find that doxxer and prosecute them EXTREMELY publicly, and very quickly. The congressional IT folks should be able to do that, especially if congressional IT assets were used.

It would also present a perfect opportunity to rip-n-tear through the halls of power, looking for subversives and commie operatives.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
As unhinged and unethical the left has become and the words coming out of the mouths of their high profile members and supporters I would not be surprised if some nut takes it to heart and tries to take out Kavanaugh or one of the republicans that was DOXed by some idiot in the house. Then all bets are off.

I have said before, it would only take two Senators and a handful of Congressmen to change the whole dynamic. I am surprised that some nut hasn't tried this yet. When they do, I expect we are in the "shooting war" that many of us fear will happen.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
All I want it truth. Simple truth. If Kavanaugh did this then he should of been rightfully nailed to the wall even though 17 year old boys have done worse in the past. I don't think he was guilty and his testimony with indignation sealed it for me. Regardless let the chips fall where they may. Kavanaugh deserves to be seated and if the left pushes this to open violence they have sealed their own fate. If that is what they want so be it.
 

petedtom

Membership Revoked
The Demoncraps/Socialist scum will do what they do. Let them start something...about time anyway.

Regarding the Judge, not sure I like his stand on the 4th, this is something that got overshadowed by all the crap the Demomonkeys threw.
Still much better he gets in than something the Commies like I suppose.
 

spinnaker

Senior Member
As long as conservative voters turn out in droves, we have nothing to worry about.

If people get complacent and sit on their asses at the midterms and next presidential election,
there will be YUGE problems.
 

David Nettleton

Veteran Member
All I want it truth. Simple truth. If Kavanaugh did this then he should of been rightfully nailed to the wall even though 17 year old boys have done worse in the past. I don't think he was guilty and his testimony with indignation sealed it for me. Regardless let the chips fall where they may. Kavanaugh deserves to be seated and if the left pushes this to open violence they have sealed their own fate. If that is what they want so be it.

Hfcoms, I'm surprised. "If Kavanaugh did this...?" They're paid whores. Been the plan since Clarence Thomas. Plain as the nose on your face.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
Let's get the party started!

Yeeeettthhhhhh . . . the longer we wait the worse it will be. There is GOING to be a super clash and it will necessarily involve a "party". Praying that President Trump will be a great orchestra leader . . . he KNEW this would come.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Yeeeettthhhhhh . . . the longer we wait the worse it will be. There is GOING to be a super clash and it will necessarily involve a "party". Praying that President Trump will be a great orchestra leader . . . he KNEW this would come.

Hey now. Some of us have only had decent work for a little while. We'd like the chance to stock up on party supplies. Sure, I've got some, but wouldn't mind more, you follow?
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
That's basically tacit admission that the only way the marxists peacefully coexist with the right is for real Americans to give up everything real legacy Americans want, and give the maxist left everything that they want.

All we are saying....is that we DID give peace a chance.

The marxist left gave up on peace. The coming blood is on their hands.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
Go Fund Me $683,000

As they say - Follow the money
2 Go fund Me accounts currently at over $683,000 and growing!

Did you notice Ford play the dumb blond when the subject came up - she had no clue about the funds and how the money is accessed - give me a break!
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Posted at 6:00 am on September 28, 2018
by Joe Cunningham

https://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2018/09/28/kavanaugh-votes-prepared-follows/


Following the hearing on Brett Kavanaugh, word started trickling out that the Republicans in the Senate had the votes to confirm him.

Despite everything that has gone on since his initial public hearings had concluded, Kavanaugh is set to become the next Supreme Court Justice, and the second one nominated by Donald Trump. If that is the case, then conservatives can rejoice.

Given the tactics, the outrage, the threats, and the insanity that we’ve seen, the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh is going to cause a lot of public protesting… and worse.

Activists have already shown a proclivity toward mob rule and violence. That will continue, and increase, as the process moves on. There will be another scheduled “Women’s March” in protest of his swearing in. There will be people in the streets targeting anyone who wears an American flag or has a MAGA hat. There will be violence.

I am not saying this to discourage Republicans. On the contrary, I think it’s more important than ever to show people who would use those tactics that they don’t work, that you cannot intimidate conservatives into changing their minds. To do so only invites worse behavior.

I don’t like what’s happened, and I don’t like what’s going to happen. But you know it’s going to happen. The plans are likely already underway.

If I’m wrong, and they don’t happen, then great. Maybe that’s progress. I just don’t think that a group of people who have been whipped into a frenzy are going to stop and take a deep breath here. They are going to protest harder.

As I said last night, this whole process has been a tragedy. I am very worried, however, that it’s only going to get uglier.




The money for all these protests comes from non-profits that are funded by none other than George Soros. They do his bidding or else they get cut off and he has his loyal minions go after people and ruin by any means necessary.
 

NoMoreLibs

Kill Commie's, Every Single One Of Them!
I'm not too worried about it. Yeah, they'll be some protests and bitching and moaning but if ya haven't noticed, once one 'scandal' peter's out with the DT administration some how, some way, another one pop's right up. I give it a week or so in the news cycle at best post-confirmation and then on to the next horrible thing DT has done, you know kicking puppy's or something.

Then these women should be fully exposed and their lives made a living hell for the next six months.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
I'm not too worried about it. Yeah, they'll be some protests and bitching and moaning but if ya haven't noticed, once one 'scandal' peter's out with the DT administration some how, some way, another one pop's right up. I give it a week or so in the news cycle at best post-confirmation and then on to the next horrible thing DT has done, you know kicking puppy's or something.

Then these women should be fully exposed and their lives made a living hell for the next six months.

Point. They're going to need to rest up for the midterms. You can imagine the howling and scrabbling there will be on THAT one.
 

NoMoreLibs

Kill Commie's, Every Single One Of Them!
Point. They're going to need to rest up for the midterms. You can imagine the howling and scrabbling there will be on THAT one.

Yup. I'm wondering though, with this dog and freak show the commie's just put on did they just seal their fate for Nov.
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
Activists have already shown a proclivity toward mob rule and violence. That will continue, and increase, as the process moves on. There will be another scheduled “Women’s March” in protest of his swearing in. There will be people in the streets targeting anyone who wears an American flag or has a MAGA hat. There will be violence.

Go ahead and march with your pussie hats on. How long did your last march last, 1 day! Big whoop! Occupy Wallstreet lasted longer than you pussies did and what did that get them? Really, what has any protest gotten anyone? They have no power. They can try to derail, but none of that has ever worked. I am not worried or concerned. Now if they come on to my private property, I have the right to protect and defend it. Crap in your own backyard and live with it. Go ahead and burn out the stores you shop in, they won't be back.
 

NoMoreLibs

Kill Commie's, Every Single One Of Them!
Go ahead and march with your pussie hats on. How long did your last march last, 1 day! Big whoop! Occupy Wallstreet lasted longer than you pussies did and what did that get them? Really, what has any protest gotten anyone? They have no power. They can try to derail, but none of that has ever worked. I am not worried or concerned. Now if they come on to my private property, I have the right to protect and defend it. Crap in your own backyard and live with it. Go ahead and burn out the stores you shop in, they won't be back.

I see the pink hats as equivalent to blue helmets. Nice, bright, large targets.
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
I'm not too worried about it. Yeah, they'll be some protests and bitching and moaning but if ya haven't noticed, once one 'scandal' peter's out with the DT administration some how, some way, another one pop's right up. I give it a week or so in the news cycle at best post-confirmation and then on to the next horrible thing DT has done, you know kicking puppy's or something.

Then these women should be fully exposed and their lives made a living hell for the next six months.

Where I use to work, there was a real liberal feminist working there. There was a protest march scheduled in Berkeley one day. She called in sick. However, when her face showed up on TV being in the mob, she got canned the next day for lying that she was sick. I LMAO!
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
As unhinged and unethical the left has become and the words coming out of the mouths of their high profile members and supporters I would not be surprised if some nut takes it to heart and tries to take out Kavanaugh or one of the republicans that was DOXed by some idiot in the house. Then all bets are off.

That's precisely the point Kav. pointed out in his speech. It's because of the Dem's moutheyness that pussyhats used as justification to threaten his family.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
What I expect, after Lindsey Graham summarized this morning on the Committee and mentioned that when Grassley (who is expected to retire from Comm) leaves, he will be the next Chairman.........is that he (Graham) will be murdered.

This is an old fashioned Constitutional patriot with the strength to withstand the garbage that will be thrown at him.......it is too dangerous to allow him to be the Chairman.

I did not know he would be the next in line if the Reps keep the Senate, and this horrible thought popped into my head - I have always admired his forthrightness and honesty.
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
What I expect after Lindsey Graham summarizing this morning on the Committee, and he mentioned that when Grassley (who is expected to retire from Comm) leaves, he will be the next Chairman, is that he will be murdered.

This is and old fashioned patriot with the strength to withstand the garbage that will be thrown at him.......it is too dangerous to allow him to be the Chairman.

If one wants to think like that, it's dangerous for all of them including Feinstein. You do know that she carries a gun with her don't you? They are all vulnerable. Got a bumper sticker right or left on your car? You're a target. Got acquaintances (like I do), I'm a target. There's two people here who know me and DH who are full blown liberals, and they know our views. One of them showed up at our house about 6 months ago uninvited just making small talk. I don't trust the guy, never did trust him. I told DH, he better not show up here again. I won't answer the door. DH thinks I'm overreacting, but I go with my gut feeling about people, and he's one of them. The other has neurological problems and his wife has Stage 4 aggressive breast cancer so I don't expect him to do something crazy, but ya never know.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
Raconteur Report

"I like a good story, well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself." - Mark Twain

Thursday, September 27, 2018

Squadron Property And Cultural Rubicons

Vietnam was a helicopter war. Amidst the slow-rolling serial trainwreck that was most of the US participation in the Southeast Asian Wargames of 1965-1975, we had a plethora of helicopter squadrons deployed to the Republic of Viet Nam (for Common Core kids, that would be the southern one at the time), and as is liable to happen during such a war, a number of them were battle damaged. Many of them shot to pieces, hauled out, and reconditioned even after being 100% inoperable, to the point that we lost more helicopters in that war than the total we ever built, as some hulks were pieced and patched together multiple times after total loss. And the rest were salvaged for parts.

The apocryphal tale is told of one such repaired helicopter. As a standard procedure, once one puts a non-salvageable airframe back into service, by dint of some hellaciously skilled and dedicated airframe and powerplant mechanics in-country, it was a regulation that the resurrected bird be test-flown to demonstrate airworthiness and safety of operation. War is harsh, but seldom deliberately stupid, at least at the operational level. So it was under these parameters that one such salvaged bird was being test flown.

Given that most of the bases were in the coastal country, and most of the enemy main forces were inland, the best place to test-fly a helicopter and minimize getting it all shot to bits again was out over the South China Sea. This is a double-edged sword, but generally provided benefits that overrode the obvious drawback. Mostly.

But for the pilots and crew of one such helicopter, the law of averages caught up to them, and the helicopter, being test-flown well out over the ocean, disappeared without a trace. No mayday, no clue, just a helo and several souls gone, amidst a war that was eating both like a ravenous beast.

Enter the flexible and utilitarian morals and institutional larceny that allows the best-run military machines to cope with the insanity of war. Because a squadron, roughly comparable in size to an infantry battalion, is several hundred men, and even at 1960s prices, multiple millions of dollars worth of machines, tools, parts, equipment, and miscellany, from nuts and bolts to aircraft engines, and everything in between. Canteens, machine guns, flak jackets, toilet seats, high explosive ordnance, and everything else you can imagine, and a million things you cannot, in quantities normally only encountered at a Wal-Mart or Target store, or aboard a 100-car freight train.

And not to put the point too finely, 8000 miles away from home, in a war zone where things were destroyed daily by tons of bombs, rockets, mines, shells, bullets, and of course, the finest pilfering skills of one of the most thriving black market economies of all time. Anything not guarded 24/7 would disappear in minutes in Vietnam, up to and including entire aircraft and other major end-user items. (Think things like APCs, tanks, artillery pieces, jeeps, etc.)

And senior NCOs and junior officers are responsible for all that stuff, as well as every commanding officer having to personally sign for and accept responsibility for everything down to the last door knob and belt buckle. Which, amidst such widespread theft and combat destruction, was sheer insanity coupled with practical impossibility.

Until the helicopter went missing.

Because after a dutiful search for survivors yielded nothing whatsoever, a report had to be filed, and items accounted for. Whereupon some shifty but brilliant NCO or senior NCO pointed out to a junior officer that it would be rather convenient to cover for all the tons of things blown up, stolen, lost, pilfered, etc., to just include them on the manifest and equipment carried on that now gone-forever helicopter.

And so, in rapid order, every crew chief, maintenance shop, and officer from warrant to XO certified, in detail, the manifest of tools, spare parts, and military miscellany that had been aboard the doomed flight, and the CO signed off on it, immediately bringing the reality of property on hand into line with what was actually able to be found, touched, and wielded by that squadron.

This boon to military accounting had, of course, the obvious flaw.
Someone higher up in the hierarchy, presented with the dozens of pages of missing gear on the missing aircraft, did some napkin math, and observed deftly that the weight of the missing items would be roughly twenty times the maximum lifting capacity of the helicopter in question, and the only way a craft actually so burdened could have achieved aerial flight was if someone had detonated an explosive device under the skids in the mid-teen kiloton range. Otherwise, it would have been like trying to get an elephant off the ground using a pair of hummingbird wings.

But the military being the military, no one wanted to rock the boat, and so the obviously fraudulent work of fiction was funneled right back to the gaping maw of Pentagon reports, where it disappeared like the Ark of the Covenant at the end of Raiders Of The Lost Ark, and the cosmic scales were in balance.

I bring that story up, because with the daily Clown Carnucopia of Fail that is the Noah's Ark of counterfeit accusers of Judge Kavanaugh, and the growing scale of recockulousness that they spiral into with each new fakenews "J'accuse!", it's only a matter of time before some cold-case weenie, or weenies, realize the golden opportunity this circus provides.

Judge Kavanaugh is about to find himself blamed for the Black Plague, the Chicago Fire, the Lindbergh Kidnapping, the Great Depression, being D.B. Cooper, causing Three Mile Island, Apollo XIII, the Exxon Valdez, turkey burgers, and the designated hitter rule. Then Interpol will pile on and tag him for annexing the Sudetenland, the Jack the Ripper murders, Vesuvius consuming Pompeii, setting Rome ablaze during Nero's reign, putting three seconds back on the clock in the 1972 Summer Olympics basketball finals, and the continued high regard in France for the films of Jerry Lewis. They may even drag the pope into this, and blame him for publishing Galileo's Dialogue, reconvening the Inquisition, and burning Kavanaugh at the stake for rank heresy. At this point, it's all simply the next logical step.

The serial lunacy of vague, obviously fabricated, and totally preposterous stories coming out hasn't merely jumped the shark; they passed jumping some days back, and are now strapping JATO bottles on that bitch, and trying to traverse the Grand Canyon, lengthwise, or possibly skipping straight to a low earth orbit.

And it would simply be desperate farce, except for the actual toxic and corrosive damage these asstards are doing to the country. Senators with the IQ of houseplants are literally setting the Constitution on fire in pursuit of a momentary partisan advantage. The only step lower than this is actual open hostilities.

They've finally gone full-on Captain Ahab barking lunatic batshit crazy, in their ceaseless pursuit of overturning an election whose simple reality they cannot rationally process.

"And he piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his heart's hot shell upon it." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick

They have casually trashed the sterling reputation of a sitting judge on the DC Court of Appeals, on the word of drunks, whores, and psychotic sociopaths (besides the former who are already in the Senate itself). After more than half a century of looking the other way at philandering, murder, and a presidential rapist and serial sexual predator while on duty in the West Wing, they have decided that only now, lacking anything else to try to stop the president from executing the duties of his office and filling a Supreme Court vacancy, this is the time to go all-in on gutting eight centuries of jurisprudence in place since Magna Carta, and doing it overnight.

There are at least four sitting senators who should not simply be censured, they should be impeached for breach of oath, and kicked right the f**k out of the Congress, and then prosecuted to maximum extent of civil and criminal law. So too the slanderous accusers in this ongoing epic charade.

And worst of all, they've happily set lying whores, and their baseless allegations, above the actual damage done to the nominee's family, a wife and two daughters, and irreparably harmed the cause of women who've suffered actual assaults, by reducing them all to the same calculus, in tarring them all with same presumption that every allegation is just a cheap stunt for political gain. And the defective delusional leftard harpies of the chorus, who couldn't get laid at a nerd conference even if their tits were Xbox controllers, are happy to sell their shriveled carbonized souls for the merest whiff of a chance to derail a slam-dunk SCOTUS nominee who doesn't share their beliefs in the disposability of unborn babies, whose antics can provide them the fifteen minutes of fame they treasure above actual accomplishment, and the attention they could never get from a lifetime of fatherless upbringings.

We're witnessing the destruction of the entire rule of law to salve the tortured psychoses of sluts with daddy issues, and to pander to their impotent ravings.

The only way this stops is to stop catering to it, and failing that due to a surplus of invertebrate RINOs, this is going to be rectified in the traditional manner.

When a man's reputation is sullied so casually, it ends with someone's teeth on the pavement, or a bullet hole in their liver on the dueling field.
Dulce et decorum est.

When you try to do the same thing to half of society, expecting it'll stop anywhere short of heads on pikes is a pipe dream. And I'm not speaking metaphorically in the slightest.

Because this is no longer just about Kavanaugh and his confirmation, though even Bitch McConjob finally seems to have found his voice - and spine - over this latest outrage.
This effort is nothing less than the permanent Othering of the entire species of soy-free meat-eating conservative males.

This is the Left finally working themselves up to the frenzy of a Kristallnacht.

And there's only one answer to that sort of cultural jihad: Challenge accepted.

We wanted fair play.

The moonbats want to play Cowboys and Leftards.

As Timothy Turtle told ChuckU Schumer when the Senate dropped the bomb on cloture: "You're going to regret this. And soon."

Aesop at 12:14 AM

https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/09/squadron-property-and-cultural-rubicons.html?m=1
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
I'm wondering if RBG will throw in the towel?

If Kavanaough is seated, her commie activism will be thwarted.

Actually - THIS would be a suitable "trigger point."

RBG is a GOD to those on the left. They make movies about her. They even make "Action Figures." And on her passing, you can be assured she will have front row seat in the Capitol Rotunda - with public viewing for a WEEK.

Dobbin
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
I just read Adino's "Raconteur Report."

I have not been so entertained since reading about the Duncan Donuts truck that overturned.

Dobbin
 

dawnbringr

Veteran Member
Actually - THIS would be a suitable "trigger point."

RBG is a GOD to those on the left. They make movies about her. They even make "Action Figures." And on her passing, you can be assured she will have front row seat in the Capitol Rotunda - with public viewing for a WEEK.

Dobbin

The funeral will last for a month. Flags will fly at half-staff for a friggen year. Leftists will cover their heads with dark cloth the way they cover statues in a
Catholic church at Easter. When Trump nominates Amy Barrett to replace her, leftists will scream "anti-Semitism"....
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
Not really expecting any major violence or mob activity at this point.

As I indicated in another thread on Thursday (yesterday) I am far more concerned about violence wrt the midterm election - by Leftists attempting to upset or derail the process and by both sides when they reject the results amid massive voter fraud and agitation from outside sources.
 
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