If you all haven't put H5N1 on YOUR radar screen:

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Here is a thread that ought to bump it up about a dozen notches above the visible threshold.

http://www.curevents.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20185


Yes, I could go get the original State Department Warden Message and cut and paste the discussion etc etc etc but I'm sufficiently damn lazy enough to figger that either you are open to seeing that there really IS a problem developing or not. And, if you aren't then it's a waste of my time.

Click the thread and go read it.

If yiou used to trust CanadaSue on Medical Subjects, this is where she hangs out.

THEN start hunting down the Flu Thread Page n(i(n)) and educating yourselves.
Cannoncocker, here is why you SHOULD have this on your radar screen.
 

CelticRose

Membership Revoked
Thanks, ND..... I've been following the threads on H5N1, over at CurEvents and other places..... IMO, this really is a significant issue....... But :shr:
 

Mr. Gravy

Veteran Member
From: http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/health/health_1181.html



Avian Flu Fact Sheet


August 3, 2005

This Fact Sheet alerts Americans to the most recent occurrences of Influenza A H5N1 (avian influenza strain) in Asia. A number of countries are reporting cases of avian influenza, commonly referred to as “bird flu.” The H5N1 strain of influenza causes severe disease in fowl. In addition, several SE Asian countries have reported a number of bird-to-human transmissions of the avian flu. Please visit the WHO website, http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/country/en/ for the most up to date information on the countries affected.

The vast majority of the known human cases have resulted from direct contact with poultry, and there is only limited evidence to suggest possible human-to-human transmission. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the World Health Organization (WHO), and the Department are concerned about the potential for human-to-human transmission of this highly dangerous flu strain, and are working closely with other partners in an effort to monitor the outbreak.

At this time, CDC and the WHO have not issued any travel alerts or advisories for avian flu-infected areas. However, CDC advises travelers to countries in Asia with documented H5N1 outbreaks to avoid poultry farms, contact with animals in live food markets, and any surfaces that appear to be contaminated with feces from poultry or other animals. CDC advises travelers to clean their hands often with soap and water or waterless alcohol-based hand-rubs to help prevent disease transmission. In addition, as a precaution, all foods from poultry, including eggs, should be thoroughly cooked. CDC further advises any travelers with a febrile respiratory illness returning from countries affected by H5N1 virus (bird flu) to seek prompt medical attention.

The WHO does not at present conclude that any processed poultry products (whole refrigerated or frozen carcasses and products derived from these) or eggs pose a risk to public health.

A specific vaccine for humans that is effective against avian influenza has not yet been developed. Based upon limited data, the CDC has suggested that the anti-viral medication Oseltamavir (brand name-Tamiflu) may be effective in preventing or treating avian influenza. Using this input, the Department of State has decided to pre-position the drug Tamiflu at its Embassies and Consulates in the Southeast Asian Region for eligible US Government employees and their families serving abroad.

Tamiflu may not be readily available overseas and the State Department encourages American citizens traveling or living abroad that are interested in obtaining this medication to consult with their physician.

Americans who are planning travel to a country that has reported the virus or who are concerned about the Avian flu are advised to monitor the CDC and the WHO web sites, http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/index.htm and http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/en/ for the latest information.

Additional country information can be obtained from the Department of State's Consular Information Sheets at http://travel.state.gov and from the Department of State's toll-free number, 1-888-407-4747, or if calling from overseas, 202-501-4444
 

RAT

Inactive
I can't help but think about the ramifications of H5N1 on the world's food supply. How many people in the world depend upon poultry for food? I know our family eats quite a bit of chicken not to mention an occasional duck or goose in the autumn/winter months. I can't even fathom not being able to eat eggs!!! :turk2: So, not only do we have to worry about getting sick but also famine along with this - from the sounds of it other livestock might be dying from it as well.

:shk:
 

juco

Veteran Member
blueridge said:
"...H5N1 on YOUR radar screen:..."

FRONT AND CENTER!!!

From the Center for Disease Control - re: adding H5N1/influenza to the Quarantine list...

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dq/qa_influenza_amendment_to_eo_13295.htm

Read the last item - #12 Ques. & Answer - very carefully, particularly the 2nd paragraph and the last line of the 3rd paragraph.

That's the kind of information that often suddenly mysteriously disappears - in order to prevent panic.


If you follow the link provided by blueridge, and then click on the link in the grey sidebar that says 'Quarantine Stations", it takes you to this page

It gives a listing of current quarantine stations, new stations, and a listing of 6 more stations 'opening summer of 2005'.

That just caught my eye and I thought I'd share it.
 

iboya

Veteran Member
mijuco said:
If you follow the link provided by blueridge, and then click on the link in the grey sidebar that says 'Quarantine Stations", it takes you to this page

It gives a listing of current quarantine stations, new stations, and a listing of 6 more stations 'opening summer of 2005'.

That just caught my eye and I thought I'd share it.

good catch!
 

Claudia

I Don't Give a Rat's Ass...I'm Outta Here!
night driver said:
Here is a thread that ought to bump it up about a dozen notches above the visible threshold.

http://www.curevents.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20185


Yes, I could go get the original State Department Warden Message and cut and paste the discussion etc etc etc but I'm sufficiently damn lazy enough to figger that either you are open to seeing that there really IS a problem developing or not. And, if you aren't then it's a waste of my time.

Click the thread and go read it.

If yiou used to trust CanadaSue on Medical Subjects, this is where she hangs out.

THEN start hunting down the Flu Thread Page n(i(n)) and educating yourselves.
Cannoncocker, here is why you SHOULD have this on your radar screen.


Damn right, Chuck, 110%! There's so much information out there now that anybody here who isn't already paying attention is going to be playing catch-up for a good long time.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
:eek:
Fair use for discussion purposes only:

Q.1. What is CDC’s quarantine authority?

A.1. Title 42 United States Code Section 264 (Section 361 of the Public Health Service [PHS] Act) gives the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) responsibility for preventing the introduction, transmission, and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and within the United States and its territories/possessions. This statute is implemented through regulations found at 42 CFR Parts 70 and 71. Under its delegated authority, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is empowered to detain, medically examine, or conditionally release individuals reasonably believed to be carrying a communicable disease.

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Q.2. Why is an Executive Order necessary?

A.2. Under the procedures required under the PHS Act, the list of diseases for which quarantine is authorized must first be specified in an Executive Order of the President, on recommendation of the HHS Secretary. By amending the list to include types of influenza that either cause or have the potential to cause a pandemic, HHS is simply taking the pragmatic step of readying all options as it monitors the emergence of these viruses and makes plans to prevent their spread.

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Q.3. What does the Executive Order accomplish?

A.3. In the event a passenger infected with a novel influenza strain were to arrive in the United States on board an international conveyance (e.g., boat, airplane), the Executive Order provides HHS with clear legal authority to isolate an ill passenger to prevent the passenger from infecting others. This authority would be used only if someone posed a threat to public health and refused to cooperate with a voluntary request.

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Q.4. Were any other diseases added to the list?

A.4. No, this Executive Order added only influenza viruses that cause or have the potential to cause a pandemic to the list of communicable diseases for which quarantine is authorized. SARS was added to the list of quarantinable diseases by Executive Order in 2003. The other diseases (Cholera; Diphtheria; infectious Tuberculosis; Plague; Smallpox; Yellow fever; and Viral Hemorrhagic Fevers) have been on the list since 1983.

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Q.5. Have other countries taken similar steps?

A.5. Some countries have quarantine authority that covers any public health emergency and therefore includes the types of influenza covered by this Executive Order.

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Q.6. When was this quarantine power last used?

A.6. Quarantine and isolation tools were last used by state health departments during the SARS 2003 outbreak. Most of this use was on a voluntary basis and affected small numbers of persons. CDC occasionally detains incoming conveyances temporarily and interviews passengers for health reasons.

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Q.7. What is the difference between isolation and quarantine?

A.7. Isolation refers to the separation of persons who have a specific infectious illness from those who are healthy and the restriction of their movement to stop the spread of that illness. Quarantine refers to the separation and restriction of movement of persons who, while not yet ill, have been exposed to an infectious agent and therefore may become infectious. Both isolation and quarantine are public health strategies that have proven effective in stopping the spread of infectious diseases.

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Q.8. When does CDC intend to use these quarantine powers?

A.8. In general, CDC defers to the state and local health authorities in their primary use of their own separate quarantine powers. Based upon long experience and collaborative working relationships with our state and local partners, CDC continues to anticipate the need to use this federal authority to quarantine an exposed person only in rare situations, such as events at ports of entry or in similar time-sensitive settings.

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Q.9. What is the difference between pandemic influenza and annual seasonal influenza?

A.9. An influenza pandemic is a global outbreak of disease that occurs when a new influenza A virus appears or “emerges” in the human population, causes serious illness, and then spreads easily from person to person worldwide. Pandemics are different from seasonal outbreaks or “epidemics” of influenza. Seasonal outbreaks are caused by subtypes of influenza viruses that are already in existence among people, whereas pandemic outbreaks are caused by new subtypes or by subtypes that have never circulated (spread) among people or that have not circulated among people for a long time. Past influenza pandemics have led to high levels of illness, death, social disruption, and economic loss.

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Q.10. How would quarantine for pandemic influenza be implemented?

A.10. In general, CDC defers to the state and local health authorities in the primary use of their own separate quarantine powers. Implementation of quarantine may depend on individual state and local health authorities as well as the characteristics (e.g., how widespread, who is affected) of the outbreak. However, in providing guidance to state and local health departments and other partners, CDC would most likely recommend voluntary home quarantine when possible, with exposed persons checking themselves for fever and reporting early symptoms to public health authorities. Antiviral drugs may be recommended in some situations.

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Q.11. How long would a person exposed to pandemic influenza be quarantined?

A.11. Quarantine of a person exposed to pandemic influenza would last for one incubation period. For annual influenza, the incubation period usually is as long as 4 days; however, this period could be different for a new type of influenza virus.

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Q.12. Why is this Executive Order important now?

A.12. The avian (bird) influenza virus in Asia (H5N1) does not usually infect humans. In 1997, however, the first case of spread from a bird to a human was seen during an outbreak of bird flu in poultry in Hong Kong. The virus caused severe respiratory illness in 18 people, 6 of whom died. Since that time, there have been other cases of H5N1 infection among humans. Most recently, human cases of H5N1 infection have occurred in Thailand and Vietnam during large H5N1 outbreaks in poultry. The death rate for these reported cases has been about 70 percent. Most of these cases occurred from contact with infected poultry or contaminated surfaces; however, it is thought that a few cases of human-to-human spread of H5N1 have occurred.

So far, spread of the avian (bird) influenza virus (H5N1) from person to person has been rare, and spread has not continued beyond one person. However, because all influenza viruses have the ability to change, scientists are concerned that the H5N1 virus could one day be able to infect humans and spread easily from one person to another. Because these viruses do not commonly infect humans, there is little or no immune protection against them in the human population. If the H5N1 virus were able to infect people and spread easily from person to person, an “influenza pandemic” (worldwide outbreak of disease) could begin. No one can predict when a pandemic might occur. However, experts from around the world are watching the H5N1 situation in Asia very closely and are preparing for the possibility that the virus may begin to spread more easily and widely from person to person.

Given these conditions, HHS has recommended that influenza caused bynew or re-emerging influenza viruses that are either 1) causing a pandemic or 2) are not in global circulation among humans and have the potential to cause pandemics should be added to the list of communicable diseases for which apprehension, isolation, detention, or conditional release are authorized. This recommendation is based not on intent to impose any quarantine restrictions right now, but rather so that the United States is prepared to respond efficiently and effectively in case of an emergency outbreak situation caused by these influenza viruses, which pose a real threat of global pandemic.
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and from here:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dq/qa_influenza_amendment_to_eo_13295.htm

is this:

In response to concerns about disease importation and bioterrorism, the Division of Global Migration and Quarantine (DGMQ) is working to increase the number of stations and enhance the training and response capability of the staff. The CDC Quarantine Stations already operational at ports of entry and border crossings are being improved, and the number of facilities will be increased to 18 in FY 2005; still more will be added in FY 2006. These field stations will provide advanced emergency response capabilities, including isolation and communications facilities. Regional health officers assigned to each station will provide clinical, epidemiologic, and programmatic support, and quarantine public health officers will conduct surveillance and response and communicable disease prevention activities. The transformed CDC Quarantine Stations will bring new expertise to bridge gaps in public health and clinical practice, emergency services, and response management.

Quarantine Station Listing
CDC Atlanta Quarantine Station

Hartsfield International Airport
PO Box 45256
Atlanta, GA 30320
(404) 639-1220
(404) 639-1224 (fax)
Hours: 8:30 AM–7:30 PM, Mon–Fri

Jurisdiction: All ports in Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee.

CDC Miami Quarantine Station

Miami International Airport
PO Box 996488
Miami, FL 33299-6488
(305) 526-2910
(305) 526-2798 (fax)
Hours: 6:00 AM–4:00 PM, Mon–Fri
8:00 AM–4:00 PM, Sat, Sun, holidays

Jurisdiction: All ports in Florida, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands.

CDC Chicago Quarantine Station

O'Hare International Airport
AMF O'Hare, POB 66012
Chicago, IL 60666-0012
(773) 894-2960
(773) 894-2970 (fax)
Hours: 12:00 PM–8:00 PM, daily

Jurisdiction: All ports in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin. Canadian pre-clearance port: Toronto.

CDC New York Quarantine Station

JFK International Airport
Room 219.016 Terminal 4 (E)
Jamaica, NY 11430-1081
(718) 553-1685
(718) 553-1524 (fax)
Hours: 8:00 AM–6:00 PM, Mon–Fri
10:00 AM–6:00 PM, Sat, Sun, holidays

Jurisdiction: All ports in New York, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, and West Virginia. Canadian pre-clearance port: Montreal. Also, pre-clearance at Shannon and Dublin.

CDC Honolulu Quarantine Station

Honolulu International Airport
300 Rodgers Blvd., #67
Honolulu, HI 96819-1897
(808) 861-8530
(808) 861-8532 (fax)
Hours: 6:00 AM–3:00 PM, Mon–Fri
6:00 AM–2:00 PM, Sat, Sun, holidays

Jurisdiction: All ports in Hawaii, Guam, and Pacific Trust Territories.

CDC San Francisco Quarantine Station

San Francisco International Airport
PO Box 280548 SFIA
San Francisco, CA 94128-0548
(650) 876-2872
(650) 876-2796 (fax)
Hours: 8:00 AM–4:30 PM, Mon–Fri
8:00 AM–4:00 PM, Sat, Sun, holidays

Jurisdiction: All ports in Northern California, Nevada (except Las Vegas), Utah, and Wyoming.

CDC Los Angeles Quarantine Station

Tom Bradley International Airport
380 World Way, Box N19
Los Angeles, CA 90045
(310) 215-2365
(310) 215-2285 (fax)
Hours: 6:30 AM–5:00 PM, Mon–Fri
9:00 AM–5:00 PM, Sat, Sun, holidays

Jurisdiction: All ports in Southern California, Arizona, Colorado, Las Vegas, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, and the U.S. Mexico Border.

CDC Seattle Quarantine Station

Seattle-Tacoma International Airport Room S-2067
Seattle, WA 98158-1250
(206) 553-4519
(206) 553-4455 (fax)
Hours: 6:30 AM–2:30 PM, Mon–Fri (December–April)
8:00 AM-4:00 PM, Mon–Fri (May–November)
6:30 AM-2:30 PM, Sat, Sun, holidays

Jurisdiction: All ports in Washington, Alaska, Idaho, Montana, and Oregon. Canadian pre-clearance ports: Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver, and Victoria.

NEW STATIONS:

CDC Newark Quarantine Station

Terminal B - Box 52
Newark Liberty International Airport,
Newark , NJ 07114
(718) 578-9439 (temp)

Jurisdiction: To Be Determined (TBD)

CDC Washington Quarantine Station

Dulles International Airport
P.O. Box 17087
Washington, DC 20041
(516)361-2907 (temp)

Jurisdiction: TBD

CDC El Paso Quarantine Station

Center for Border Health Research
1100 N. Stanton, Ste 410
El Paso, TX 79902
FAX: 915-541-1137
Ph: 915-577-0970

Jurisdiction: TBD



CDC Houston Quarantine Station

George Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH)
3870 North Terminal Road
C/O International Arrival Area
US Public Health Room # 2.0833
Houston, Texas 77032
404-488-7615 (temp)

Jurisdiction: TBD

Opening Summer 2005

CDC Anchorage Quarantine Station

CDC Boston Quarantine Station

CDC Detroit Quarantine Station

CDC Minneapolis Quarantine Station

CDC San Diego Quarantine Station

CDC San Juan Quarantine Station

Jurisdictions: TBD
 

patb

Deceased
Tnx for all the information. I figured Anchorage being the "crossroads" of the world would be listed there somewhere. Beginning to be a good place to stay away from. IMHO.

Patricia
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
We gave our local County Public Health Officer the power to quarantine several months ago.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Marsh, MOST public health officers have had that power for eons.

Folks, y'all need to understand that, while Quarantine may be a biotch, and a real hardship, it is the ONLY, let me say that again:

QUARANTINE IS THE ONLY SUCCESSFUL STRATEGY TO COMBAT A PANDEMIC INFLUENZA!!!!

If you doubt that, you have only to do the research on the Two Samoas to understand why the citizens of BRITISH Samoa wrote a song praising the US Gov General of AMERICAN Samoa for saving their relatives. The Gov Gen of American Samoa instituted an extremely draconian quarantine, enlisted his citizens to help enforce it and was successful in saving his people. Not one American SAmoan died from 1918 FLu. 40% of the citizens in British Samoa died. They are 20 miles apart.

When your government puts YOU into quarantine, or quarantines a city, it is in YOUR best interests to obey that. And yes, this may well mean that you will need someone to bring food to your doorstep.....

Start thinking about you and your neighbors and what you may HAVE to do.
 

lynnie

Membership Revoked
I can't believe not one person at that curevents thread mentioned sambucol.

I don't know how it compares to tamiflu, probably not as effective, but I do know how it compares to nothing at all.....
 

Kim99

Veteran Member
There are tons of threads about sambucol over there. I guess just not on this one. I've seen a couple of good recipes for homemade elderberry syrup, also.
I think one was from Canada Sue.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Many thanks to EVERYONE who is posting about the avian flu. Your hard work is not going unnoticed and is very much appreciated by many of us who lurk more than post.
Pinecone
 
TimeBomb has opened my eyes to alot of scary possibilities, but I think this one is the worst for me because I think this flu is likely to effect my life.

Just this week I received a flyer from my county health department informing me of the bird flu. Included are Survival Tips such as Short Term Food Supplies "In the unlikely event that an emergency cuts off your food supply, you should maintain a two week supply for yourself and your family."

As someone who has worked with infectious diseases this scares me. Our society doesn't see have the recent experience with this anymore. How many people can remember polio even?
 

Kim99

Veteran Member
horse and hammer, what county are you in? I haven't seen a thing about this where I live. If it wasn't for the internet I wouldn't have a clue.
 
"Preparing Our Citizens" Funding for this newsletteris provided via a grant from the Illinois Department of Public HealthDivision of Emergency Preparedness and Response.

Four pages of Bird Flu, Food Safety, Disabilities in a Disaster, Children, Pets with phone numbers and internet addresses.

Included are two forms you can return to the county department of health:

One to register if you may require assistance due to disabilities and

One to register if want to volunteer for a medical reserve corp (with and without medical backgrounds).

mary
 
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