If The President Takes Office Under Illegal Conditions?

howdeedoodee

Veteran Member
If the President of the United States takes office and the President is later judged to have taken office under illegal conditions OR if the President was elected while the President was not a legal citizen...does any bill the President signs become null and void?

Another way to address this issue is to ask if an illegal President can participate in making legally binding law via his signature?

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LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
The question would probably be looked at this way... When he/she signed those documents, was he/she legally empowered to do so. In this case, I would say no, IMHO of course.

I pray that we don't have to find out and that he is found to be "lacking" in that department LONG before the 20th of January 2009.

Loup
 

RobinYyes

Deceased
Nothing will happen with the collective borg known as Congress brown nosing him they way they are now. It'll take two years, and even then unless real changes are made to the Republican party away from the center and TO the right nothing will come of it. Except socialism. Then again, that seems to be what the majority wants these days. :shr:
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
I would say no because it takes more then just the President to pass a bill. Congress would need to have voted on it first. It merely went to him to sign as a formality, and his signature would have been as someone said before, during a time when he was legally empowered to do so in good faith.
 

Sebastian

Sebastian
So what - Every democrat or republican who takes the office does so under illegal conditions.

Starts when they take the oath of office.
 

JoPatch

Contributing Member
Not to stir the pot, so to speak.
What if he were to sign a peace treaty, with lets say Russia.
Could they come in and say null and void, since we don't have a valid Prez?:shr:
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
According to a Harvard Law professor on The Power Hour yesterday, (Edwin Viera) he said that if Obama does take office than anything he signs will not be legally binding as he is not "legally" president of the US.

Viera also said that Obama should produce the documents. It was a very interesting program. He says he doubts that Obama can produce them.

But to answer the question, Viera said that any laws that he signs could be null and void and if someone were to be prosecuted under one of those laws, that person could sue the gov for major bucks and win.

We are heading into some really uneasy times. If this man is not legally eligible to be president it could throw us into a Constitutional crisis of major impact on our country.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Whether he is legal or not, with the power of the govt behind him are you *really* going to tell him to 'piss off'?

No offense but I don't think so.
 

denfoote

Inactive
The closest remedy is this:

Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

The 25th Amendment.
 
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