HEALTH I now know the true meaning of pneumonia

Anti-Liberal

Anti-Liberal

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I just spent the last few days in the hopsital with pneumonia. I started out about 5 or 6 days ago thinking I turned my back wrong and caused a pinched nerve, as with all good pinched nerves it started to get worse and so did the spasms throughout my left side. My breathes started to get shorter and shorter and then the spasms were so severe I started to breakdown and consider going to the hospital. Finally I told the wife to take me and by the time we were half way to the ER I was screaming in pain like a little girl, I could barely breathe and the pain was absolutely insane. I thought I was gonna die. My wife was so scared she had tears as she was driving. I never thought pneumonia was this bad, I learned a huge lesson. I've had 3 kidney stones and none of them came near this for absolute PAIN.
 
Southside

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wow, dude.
You can't abuse your self like that. I can officially say that now, because LAST TIME i kinda went right to the hospital.
Yea, kinda.

Double pneumonia sucks. If you ever think you might be getting pneumonia, use a nebulizer with Colloidal Silver. That is some great stuff.
Good luck, get well quickly.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I’ve had pneumonia as a 13 year old. I spent 5 days in a hospital in an oxygen tent. I remember it hurt to breathe, though not as bad as you described. A few months after coming to Texas, I started feeling poorly, enough that I went to an urgent care clinic in the evening. They gave me an injection and a z-pack and sent me home. I was better in two days. It was pneumonia. And since I’ve been predisposed to respiratory infections all my life, I got the pneumonia vax and a booster after 10 years. My suggestion is that you get the same thing.
 
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PalmettoGirl

Senior Member
Southside said:
Wow, dude.
You can't abuse your self like that. I can officially say that now, because LAST TIME i kinda went right to the hospital.
Yea, kinda.

Double pneumonia sucks. If you ever think you might be getting pneumonia, use a nebulizer with Colloidal Silver. That is some great stuff.
Good luck, get well quickly.
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This really works! I had covid last year that turned into pneumonia. Mine was not as severe as Anti-Liberal’s and I didn’t end up in the hospital. But I was pretty much bedridden for 7 weeks. I had steroid shots, multiple rounds of antibiotics, and nebulizer treatments. I went through bags of cough drops. And finally I decided to not go back for more antibiotics and to try nebulizing colloidal silver. After one treatment I coughed up mucus for about half an hour. Pretty gross, but after that I started feeling better. I’m only sorry I didn’t start nebulizing when I first got sick. I hope you’re on the mend!
 
Anti-Liberal

Anti-Liberal

Veteran Member
bw said:
Glad you got help. I wasn't aware that pneumonia could be painful.
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Between the very short breaths I could take and the overwhelming pain of the chest/breathing muscle spasms I literally thought I was gonna die. When the ER nurse finally gave me morphine it only brushed off enough pain to help me stop freaking out. They are stingy with the morphine these days, and I'm 260 pounds of wussie with this kinda pain.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Anti-Liberal said:
Between the very short breaths I could take and the overwhelming pain of the chest/breathing muscle spasms I literally thought I was gonna die. When the ER nurse finally gave me morphine it only brushed off enough pain to help me stop freaking out. They are stingy with the morphine these days, and I'm 260 pounds of wussie with this kinda pain.
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They limit those pain meds to make sure they’re not masking a cardiac issue, again I’m so sorry for your pain been there and it was fugly. Lung problems are horrible.
 
Buick Electra

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
Anti-Liberal said:
Between the very short breaths I could take and the overwhelming pain of the chest/breathing muscle spasms I literally thought I was gonna die. When the ER nurse finally gave me morphine it only brushed off enough pain to help me stop freaking out. They are stingy with the morphine these days, and I'm 260 pounds of wussie with this kinda pain.
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I'm so sorry you went through this AL but am relieved you're better. Just a warning that those steroids they gave you have weakened your immune system. If you get this again, (which you might due to a weakened immune system), try and not do the steroids again.

And if this is to happen again to the point to have to go to the hospital, I suggest you ask for TORADOL, which alleviated my crunched knee cap pain when morphine did nothing.
 
kyrsyan

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
packyderms_wife said:
You just described asthma. Yes it’s that’s painful. I’m so sorry you had to experience this.
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That was my thought. Had an asthma attack like that years ago. First time. No clue. Friend dragged my butt to ER when it reached the stage of I was continually coughing. My first nebulizer treatment and regimen. Learned a lot.
 
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JeanCat

Veteran Member
PalmettoGirl said:
This really works! I had covid last year that turned into pneumonia. Mine was not as severe as Anti-Liberal’s and I didn’t end up in the hospital. But I was pretty much bedridden for 7 weeks. I had steroid shots, multiple rounds of antibiotics, and nebulizer treatments. I went through bags of cough drops. And finally I decided to not go back for more antibiotics and to try nebulizing colloidal silver. After one treatment I coughed up mucus for about half an hour. Pretty gross, but after that I started feeling better. I’m only sorry I didn’t start nebulizing when I first got sick. I hope you’re on the mend!
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Exactly how do you nebulize colloidal silver???
 
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JeanCat

Veteran Member
Anti-Liberal said:
Between the very short breaths I could take and the overwhelming pain of the chest/breathing muscle spasms I literally thought I was gonna die. When the ER nurse finally gave me morphine it only brushed off enough pain to help me stop freaking out. They are stingy with the morphine these days, and I'm 260 pounds of wussie with this kinda pain.
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You are probably like me, extraordinarily tough, but the only two things I can’t stand are pain and temptation.
 
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JasmineAndLace

Senior Member
Sorry for all your pain and anxiety, AL, and am glad you are doing better. Years ago when I was younger I went through a time where I was getting pneumonia about every 5 to 6 months, from legionnaires down through many other types. That was before home nebulizers and other self helps. As soon as I was well enough to do it, I started taking the pneumonia shots and now they have they call the lifetime shot. I highly recommend getting that as soon as you can.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
Aw I'm sorry you dealt with that devil. I had a bout o' double pneumonia once, after I dang near died from blood loss.
..ended up breaking ribs, and only wishing I would die, and just get it over with, due the pain, and worse, for me- weakness that accompanied it.

Keep yourself well nourished with hot tea (throw in the sambucal to beat back any opportunistic infections), oodles of water, tuns of beef bone broth with my favorite antibiotics: garlic and onion, and ::hmm what else:: plenty o' hugs.

If your wifie isn't going to be there 24-7, gather your things with in convenient to grab baskets, walk near walls so when you pass out you can limit the damage of the fall, and do your breathing exercises faithfully. It gets better, but is kinda a real health sapper- and don't forget to move. In the beginning of my recovery, I had to hold onto bars, and could only do a few steps in place at a time, and showering was a two day ordeal to muster the energy.
 
annieosage

annieosage

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Wow I'm so sorry. I didn't know pneumonia was painful either. I'm glad you're home and on the mend.

In February 2016 I woke up on a Saturday with a headache. The next day I had a slight fever and headache. By Monday morning I could barely get out of bed. Called my sister to come take me to urgent care. They checked my pulse ox and said she needs the ER immediately. Did we want them to call an ambulance or my sister could drive? We drove. When I was triaged I was sent to the back right away in a wheelchair and was seen by the Dr. right away. I found out later my pulse ox was 78. I don't remember much else that day except I was so dehydrated the only vein they could find for the IV was in my shoulder. I was in for 6 days and home on 24/7 oxygen. Those days sucked.
 
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psychgirl

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What jward said above about moving is very important.

I had to get DH up and try to keep him moving during his Covid bilateral pneumonia recovery, too.

He knew he needed to do that too, but in the dead of winter, the best he could muster was walking around the property for only a few minutes. That literally, wore him out the first couple of times.

Then, he practiced walking down the lane to our mailbox. The first time frightened him a little. He told me he almost couldn’t make it back. So we limited him to just practicing walking down the stairs to our basement once a day.

Last winter was not something I care to repeat, ever again.

Please keep us updated, when you can.
I’ll be keeping you in prayers for full recovery.
 
Anti-Liberal

Anti-Liberal

Veteran Member
JeanCat said:
You are probably like me, extraordinarily tough, but the only two things I can’t stand are pain and temptation.
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I can tolerate some pains better than others but anything that has to do with my guts turns me into a can mushed train wreck. The nurses at the ER got going as fast as they could but it's never fast enough.
 
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JeanCat

Veteran Member
PalmettoGirl said:
You fill the little cup on the nebulizer with straight colloidal silver. 10-20 ppm silver is best. And then you just inhale it until it’s gone.
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Do you think this would help someone with Alpa-1 Anti-Trypsin Deficiency and is down to about 20-25% lung capacity with pseudomonas in their lungs.
 
Satanta

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Mine was slowand no pain. I just thought it was some dIabetes issue. Spent several days in bed at the sheltwr rhen one of the other homeless guys there dragged me to hospital, one week, two quarts flyid siphoned out of space between left lung and chest cavity.

The livw xray was cool to watch as I could see the needle go in between ribs and pull the fluid.

Glad yer better but take it easy for a bit wven feeling better.
 
Satanta

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Anti-Liberal said:
I can tolerate some pains better than others but anything that has to do with my guts turns me into a can mushed train wreck. The nurses at the ER got going as fast as they could but it's never fast enough.
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Gotta be carefull wirh the tough guy thing.

In my case it usually ends up with a hospital stay, that said, being able to absorb trauma and continue functioning has its merits.
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Colloidal silver won't HURT you, just don't stop other treatments, and be VERY AWARE of the possibility that you might hydrate the mucous in your lungs. Coughing is GOOD as long as it's productive.

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MY first two courses of pneumonia were markedly different in that the only pain involved was the insane headache that the fever generated. My fever got above 103 to 104 and the next symptoms were somewhat reduced respiration depth and all KINDS of insane and awkward thoughts-hallucinations running around in my head.
when I FINALLY said to the wife it was time to have a pro look at me we found my pO2 was low 80s-to high-mid 70s.

I was apparently very quietly dying without knowing it.

ABX, O2, lots of thumping on both back and front of chest, spirometer and dire threats from the Resp Therapist (NO ICECREAM and NO PUDDING and MANY MORE DAYS HERE ) were instrumental in getting me out. 'Course it took me 2 days to become cognizant I was being played with on those threats HI HI HI but they DID work LOL LOL.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
And yes, don't forget the cupping exercises like chuck describes, or taking in lots of yogurt to protect your gut while you're killing off all the bugs with your antibiotics and elderberry and whatever all you're employing.
 
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compchyk

The Computer Chyck
Had it 30 something years ago 1 lung stopped inflating and other lung was keeping me going. Gasped for air while eating/sleeping - left me with a heart murmur for 6 months. I've never been that sick in my life.
 
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PalmettoGirl

Senior Member
JeanCat said:
Do you think this would help someone with Alpa-1 Anti-Trypsin Deficiency and is down to about 20-25% lung capacity with pseudomonas in their lungs.
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I’m sorry, I don’t know anything about that condition. I learned about nebulizing colloidal silver from the group called the Natural Health Library on Facebook. They also have an online site under the same name. Maybe you can search their site? I’m sorry I can’t be of more help!
 
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JeanCat

Veteran Member
PalmettoGirl said:
I’m sorry, I don’t know anything about that condition. I learned about nebulizing colloidal silver from the group called the Natural Health Library on Facebook. They also have an online site under the same name. Maybe you can search their site? I’m sorry I can’t be of more help!
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Actually you have been very helpful. I thought about what you said and then I thought about what numerous people on the board have said. “Do your own research.” So I plugged “pseudomonas” and “collodial silver” into the search engine and came up with A very scientific
Article on pseudomonas that I considered positive. I asked my wife to send it to her doctor. He has acknowledged receipt and is looking at it
Thank you. You were very helpful.
 
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Shotsie

Contributing Member
Years ago I had pneumonia and ended up going in the hospital on Christmas Day where I had to stay for two weeks. Extremely painful and I certainly hope I never have to go through that again.
 
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