(hlth) Hoof And Mouth Virus MUTATING

AbbyLane2001

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http://www.sightings.com/general10/mut.htm
Foot And Mouth Virus Mutating
From Patricia Doyle, Ph
5-31-1

Hello Jeff - It appears that the virus is mutating. As I suspected, the virus active in the UK was from the missing Porton Down vial which was kept in level 4 and not level 3 lab. It would probably be weaponized and that was the reason it was in the level 4 lab.

This new version appeared in stock that had been declared FMD free two hours before.

New hot zones are appearing as well. This outbreak is far from over. I suspect that MAFF knew that the Porton Down vial was used in the UBI/Plum Island vaccine trials that took place just before the UK outbreak and knew that the virus strain was virulent, and unstable. Ergo, I believe that is why MAFF is killing every animal. By the time this is over, there may very well be no livestock left in the UK. Seriously.

Of course, MAFF has now begun to blame farmers for the new oubreaks. They are claiming that farmers are deliberately spreading the virus for compensation. MAFF has been hostile toward the farmers throughout, this last unfair accusation is uncalled for. MAFF knows exactly why the FMD virus is spreading and mutating.

Patricia


Livestock Need Two Hourly Virus Checks

Furnesscattle farmers have been told to check their cattle every two hours. Uninfected Yorkshire cattle have been going down with foot-and-mouth in hours.

There have been more than 20 confirmed outbreaks of the disease in Settle and vets are horrified at how fast it is infecting livestock.

South Cumbria National Farmers' Union spokeswoman Gill Shearer said: "Animals given the all clear are found to be heavily diseased just two hours later.

"We were so concerned we have been on to the agriculture ministry vets because we thought it could be a new strain of the disease.

"They say it isn't, but it seems to have become much more virulent and is moving very fast in an area that hasn't had an outbreak for six weeks.

"I would urge Furness farmers to check their animals as often as possible, preferably every couple of hours."

In two cases, filmed by Maff, animals thought to be free of the disease went down with it in less than two hours.

In one case the symptoms were so severe shocked vets doubted the animals had been given the all clear just hours before.

Ms Shearer said: "In the first case the farmer looked at his animals and they were fine.

"He went back to bring them in for milking just hours later and they had sores and cuts.

"In the second case the livestock were inspected and two hours later when the farmer went back they were in a terrible state, the worse the vets had seen.

"Both incidents were filmed because the vets can't believe how fast cattle and sheep are going down with the disease.

"Neither farmers were to blame and they don't want to be named. This is a very worrying development and we fear the hot weather may have increased the virulence of the disease."

A Maff spokesman said they were concerned at the speed with which animals were becoming infected and said they were slaughtering them within 24 hours.

He said the virus seemed to be moving faster and warned farmers to regularly check their cattle and take all the preventative precautions they could.


Patricia A. Doyle, PhD Please visit my "Emerging Diseases" message board at: http://disc.server.com/Indices/93896.html
 

jed brulen

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Can't say it was unexpected but it rather boggles the mind with the 'what nows'. Someone has to be dusting off the plan for worst case scenario. If they don't the Euro's will do it for them, and it won't be pretty.

[ 05-31-2001: Message edited by: jedb ]
 

CanadaSue

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I got a real problem with this... it APPEARS the virus is mutating... wha is she basing that one; the fact that animals are fine, then sick a few hours later? Remember, animals with this can have a high viral load before they break with symptoms. The fact that they're fine at 0400, then really sick at 0800 MAY indicate a more virulent strain. It may also indicate animals that are stressed because of movement restrictions, breaading, heat, bearing little ones, shearing or other illnesss concurrent with F&M.

Yes new outbreaks are appearing... as predicted. The gummint stated & rightly so that the initial 24 hours without a fresh case was by no means the end of the outbreak, that there would continue to be new cases for quite a while. This puppy doesn't disappear in a hurry. A hot dry summer would help. This virus likes it cold & damp.

What Porton Down vial. IT was rumored that a vial of F&M was missing from Porton Dopwn; has that been proven? Why would PLum Island use samples from Porton Don; they have plenty of their own. If they wanted some of that strain; the procedure does NOT involve handing over the whole vial, but thawing the sample held, propogating it, re-freezing most of it & sending some to Plum Island. But unless they had an unusual strain, Plum Island has plenty of their own. The rest of that paragraph is pure, utter speculation. Most nations have survived F&M outbreaks before without totally losing their susceptible livestock.

NO doubt a few farmers have faked or even deliberately infected their own stock in order to get compensation... but I doubt more than a very few & I sincerely hope they're caught & prohibited from owning lifestock again...scum. If MADD is trying to sprad the blame.... well they've been arrogant prats anyway so far, have't they?

Now the MAFF vets need to grow out & sequence curent samples of F&M. It IS quite feasible it's become more virulent & if so, there is an urgent need to find out why. I'd like to know how that virulence is being manifested, other than animals being fine, then suddenly being very ill.

Now ghastly as it sounds, IF the disease has become more virulent & IF that increased virulence manifests itself in sicker animals, it may be that the UK needs to totally "lockdown" its borders to ALL exports of ALL products of susceptible animals, then God help them if they must, slaughter every animal in the country that can become ill or carry the disease.

Before you jump all over me, I recognize that doing this is pretty well impossible. There are simply oo many animals in the wild who can carry it. I simply pray this seeming increase in virulence is due to other issues.

Here's a prediction. I'll bet you this lingers over the summer & into the fall. If, by October, say mid-October they haven't eliminated it... and I don;t think they will, I think they're going to be forced to admit it's now endemic to the UK.

POlicies will then HAVE to be changed. Watch an effective multi-year vaccine be developed within a year or 2 of that.

And in the meantime, God healp the farmers.
 

Squirrel Hunter

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The offical conclusion as to responsibility for introducing the virus to the UK was laid at the feet of the British navy: the virus evidently contaminated meat supplies said to have been loaded by Brit navy vessels while in the South Pacific, and these supplies were later sold as slop to local British pig farmers around Inverness, or areas where the outbreak was first identified. I have my doubts about the Porter Down vial story.
 

chairborne commando

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As long as this stuff doesn't mutate over here-and maybe make the jump (if thats possible) to humans. I wonder whats next.
If some sort of fast spreading wheat rust shows up...
 
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