sjhenderson
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Where can I get two handheld Ham radios, no I don't have a license but pretty soon I doubt folks are going to be checking that, Also distance on them? Thanks.
We have seen truckers with ham amplifiers and CBers polluting the 10m band. WE don't need any non licensed ppl to mess up the VHF bands, thinking nobody cares. Thank you!Where can I get two handheld Ham radios, no I don't have a license but pretty soon I doubt folks are going to be checking that, Also distance on them? Thanks.
You risk a $10,000 fine from the FCC who does aggressively track illegal activity. There are many amateur radio "Fox Hunter" clubs out there that love to locate and report unlicensed operators.Where can I get two handheld Ham radios, no I don't have a license but pretty soon I doubt folks are going to be checking that, Also distance on them? Thanks.
What PO’s hams is unlicensed people operating withn the UHF/VHF spectrum dedicated to amature radio . . . There are other frequencies available to use in these ares that are not assigned to us. Then you have the hunters out here using our repeaters - which are privately owned as well as EXPENSIVE. Want to have an issue with people? there’s a great way to start having real and potentially costly problems for yourself. there are also repeaters in the GMRS and Business frequencies as well - ALSO private.Get a license. Voice only is not hard to get, what you learn in doing so will be valuable.
As was noted previously the hams will track you down for fun and then turn you in.
Distance on almost any handheld to any other handheld is going to be based on antenna HEIGHT and frequency used. If you are talking VHF and UHF, which travel Line of Sight, then you are limited to what they call the "Radio Horizon" is, which is usually less than 3 miles unless you and the person you want to talk to are on hills or mountains.Where can I get two handheld Ham radios, no I don't have a license but pretty soon I doubt folks are going to be checking that, Also distance on them? Thanks.
You risk a $10,000 fine from the FCC who does aggressively track illegal activity. There are many amateur radio "Fox Hunter" clubs out there that love to locate and report unlicensed operators.
There are other radio bands that will serve your purpose without running afoul of the government.
There is so much absolute truth in this paragraph that its difficult to state. been in this hobby over 25 years and I am STILL learning and asking questions. People who think they are going to buy an HF rig and use it after SHTF with ZERO prior experience are in for a very rude awakening. It‘s not simply plug and play like your am/fm portable; its not AT ALL “plug it into the wall outlet and I’m good to go.“Listen to the advice given and get the license. It’s not so much the piece of government paper but the learning process which is necessary to be a radio operator and technician. Getting equipment and not knowing how to use it and assuming that you can figure it out when you need to is akin to the people that intend to ‘live off the land’ when TSHTF but have never skinned an animal, and the only camping ever done was in a tent at a park with restrooms and showers.
Well maybe - but still you’d be better off to have a little background knowledge about RF and how it works - you may easily be very much more disappointed in the results from your CB than you are from those UHF/VHF frequencies . . .just get some CB radios.
just get some CB radios.
The bad situation of 7.200 MHz being abused for YEARS by non-hams leads me to believe that current enforcement by the FCC is minimal at best.If you aren't willing to get a ham license, stay off the ham bands, unless it's a life or death emergency.
You really don't want to anger those folks. Some enjoy tracking down violators a wee bit too much.
I fear that the US government will eventually try to do the same here. So I have declined to get on the government's list of people who have the equipment and will NOT get a license.
They used to call my husband Silver FoxYou risk a $10,000 fine from the FCC who does aggressively track illegal activity. There are many amateur radio "Fox Hunter" clubs out there that love to locate and report unlicensed operators.
There are other radio bands that will serve your purpose without running afoul of the government.
The bad situation of 7.200 MHz being abused for YEARS by non-hams leads me to believe that current enforcement by the FCC is minimal at best.
Can an unlicensed person just listen if they don’t talk on the radio?You risk a $10,000 fine from the FCC who does aggressively track illegal activity. There are many amateur radio "Fox Hunter" clubs out there that love to locate and report unlicensed operators.
There are other radio bands that will serve your purpose without running afoul of the government.
Yes, but why not just get a scanner?Can an unlicensed person just listen if they don’t talk on the radio?
Where can I get two handheld Ham radios, no I don't have a license but pretty soon I doubt folks are going to be checking that, Also distance on them? Thanks.
So here is my question to all of the licensed hams on this forum: knowing the direction that the government is going, why do you write off the possibility that our government will try to take our equipment at some point?
+1000000The current government is the most incompetent and corrupt set of boobs we've ever had and they are a lot more afraid of us than we are of them and you can see that by the reaction to the Jan 6th protestors. The government is not all knowing and all powerful even with their A.I. Look at how they failed in Afghanistan even though they had all the military might and look last week at what Hamas was able to do against one of the most primary military powers in the world.
I say the same thing to people who are concerned about martial law. There is not enough military in the U.S. to put boots on the ground and control the people. And I say this as someone who was familiar with the plans for mass civil disturbances in the U.S. Our State plan was to deploy a brigade or two to the hot spot (assuming it would be Detroit, Flint or maybe Grand Rapids) and to hold out until the Federal calvary came to save the day. And that was back when the military was at full strength. Today they can't even meet their recruiting goals.
What the government is going to do when TSHTF is to hunker down and protect what they consider to be critical infrastructure and wait it out as they will be totally overwhelmed. Same way that when disaster hits people are on their own and FEMA is no where to be seen.
You can even see that with the Katrina response. The only way the government was able to meet the demand was to strip forces from all over the nation and shovel them into the gulf region and that was a massive charlie foxtrot. And this was with the rest of the country up and running. What happens in a full blown collapse when the whole nation is in chaos? The illusion of an all powerful federal government is just that....an illusion.
To bring this down to a landing your not going to have to worry about someone trying to find your ham radios or try to round you up because you have a license. Currently under a faux normalcy they can take any of us out anytime they want as a show of force or to make a statement. When the crap really comes down they will be taking care of themselves and the police, military and civilian federal employees will be no where to be seen.
Your primary threat will be hungry and desperate locals along with anyone else looking to loot or profit from the distress or the invaders coming across the border so no, I'm not worried about the government trying to take my radios or to hunt me down because I oppose Washington's dictates as our enemies will be a lot closer to home.
Is there a scanner for ham radio?Yes, but why not just get a scanner?
Don't buy an amateur radio transceiver unless one is properly licensed our Is there a scanner for a ham radio?
If tshf no one will care and all current rules go out the window.We have seen truckers with ham amplifiers and CBers polluting the 10m band. WE don't need any non licensed ppl to mess up the VHF bands, thinking nobody cares. Thank you!
Almost any scanner can scan the Amateur VHF and UHF bands. Just have it search through:Is there a scanner for ham radio?
What kind of scanner would recommend for this? Thank you.Almost any scanner can scan the Amateur VHF and UHF bands. Just have it search through:
50-54MHz for 6 Meter signals
144-148MHz for 2 Meter signals
420-450MHz for 70cm signals
There are other Amateur bands, but those will be the most active as there are the most radios out there that support those frequencies.
For the HF frequencies, you will want to "dial" through those frequencies as they may be "piled up" more than a search or scan will permit.
Any VHF/UHF capable scanner out there should be able to pick up those bands. Keep an eye out on Yard Sales and used equipment. That being said, a handheld would probably serve anyone the best, as they are portable, more sensitive to weaker signals (they are designed to be used with the crappy small rubber duck antenna that they come with, so if you hook them up to a Discone or J-Pole, they REALLY work well).What kind of scanner would recommend for this? Thank you.