FOX gives Ohio to Bush

[PentelPen]

!!!

 

[Ought Six]

If true, it is over for Kerry. I am going to go over to DU to hear the wailing.


UPDATE:

NBC has now called Ohio for Bush.

 

[Aleph Null]

If true, it is over for Kerry.

If true, I REALLY REALLY hope Bush takes NH and/or NV. Or we are going to have another mess.

-A0-

 

[fairbanksb]

NH went to Kerry

 

[Amazed]

NH's already been given to Kerry. Just waiting for Alaska.

 

[Delta]

NV may be interesting. Some polls stayed open quite late with long lines. Fortunately, as I understnad it, our electronic machines are the only ones that produce a paper duplicate ballot in case a re-count is necessary. The paper ballot comes up in an adjacent window which the voter must verify before vote registered.

 

[Pineapple]

Fox News just reported that Kerry campaign spokesperson Mary Cahill says the Kerry campaign is not conceding ohio. They say there are 250,000 votes yet to be reported and they believe when those are counted Kerry WILL take Ohio.

 

[Amazed]

Fox also said that Kerry would have to take practically every one of those provisional votes to win Ohio and the odds of that are near zero.

 

[Pineapple]

Yup, Amazed. I dont think the Kerry's campaign is doing the math. Voter turnout in Ohio was around 75 %. That is just unreal. I am proud to say, I make up part of that percent, and I threatened my hubby's well being if he didnt get to the polls on time after work! Luckily, when he got there it was pretty slow, and we dont really live in a big city like Columbus. They had their hands full down there.

 

[bipshoft]

All

as a nnattive of the Buckeye state let me give you the following info. Ohio as of yet has counted their provisional ballots or their overseas or out of state ballots. This may take some time.

Seems there is a lot of disagreemennt on how many ballots this may actually be.

from my understanding this may take a few days but am seeing news reports this may take up to 11 days. Then add on the legal challenges

I would not count on a clear winner tonight as the Elevtoral Votes will be close

Looks like Ohio will be the Florida of 2000

 

[bipshoft]

oops, sorry for the typos

Ohio as of yet has NOT counted! their provisional votes

sorry about that, have been on the phone with friends in Ohio

Another thing to remember is the vote is getting closer and there a lot of votes not counted

 

[Pineapple]

Provisional votes in Ohio wont be counted unless it will affect the outcome. For example, with 94% reporting, Bush is ahead by 152,000. If that was the final tally with 100 % reprting, If there are less than 152,000 provisional ballots, they will not be counted as it would not change the outcome. I have not heard what the number of provisionals is in Ohio. EVEN IF they count those provisional ballots, Kerry would have to get about 2/3 of those. One shouldnt expect that to happen, unless they were all in Cleveland


Ohios results can be tracked at http://election.sos.state.oh.us/results/SingleRaceSummary.aspx?race=PP

 

[bipshoft]

also the out of state ballots have to be counted, those are not included

I agree it is a slim chance but they nust be counted

there is a little more to the story and after the Florida debacle Ohio seems determined to count all votes

 

[bipshoft]

oh by the way, provisional ballot counts are estimated anywhere from 100k to 250k

so I bet this gets drug out

 

[bipshoft]

and yes they will be counted

 

[Laurie the Mom]

CNN.com just had this under "Breaking News":

"Broken machines and a delay in opening absentee ballots will delay Iowa reporting its final count in the presidential election, state election officials said. "

Sigh....I'm going to bed.

Laurie

 

[Oldotaku]

Laurie,
Yes, you might as well go to bed. The local news is declaring that the broken machines will delay the count in one county until at least 0500 CST. Absentee/provisional will be even later.
Oldotaku

 

[Pineapple]

If you look at the breakdown of counties that are not 100 %, you'll see that there are counties like Clermont that have 55% reporting, that are voting overwhelmingly for Bush. There are not enough votes left to make up the ground Kerry needs to take Ohio.

kerry, stick a fork in it baby.

These are the counties not 100% reporting in Ohio
Clermont 55%(50,321)
70% Bush
30% Kerry

Coshocton 72%(12,192)
56 % Bush
43% Kerry

Cuyahoga 87%(567,467)
65% Kerry
33% Bush

Franklin98.6%(502,359)
53%Kerry
45% Bush

Hamilton 69.10%(291,622)
52% Bush
47%Kerry

Knox 98.21%(25,326)
65% Bush
34% Kerry

Lucas93.94% (171,370)
60% Kerry
40% Bush

Summit 96.63%(261,799)
56%Kerry
43% Bush

Washington 89.29%(22,844)
59%Bush
40.55%Kerry


If 250,000 more votes were counted, either by provisional, or absentee, Kerry would in the BEST CASE SCENARIO pick up 65% ( based on his highest % ) or162,000 and Bush would get about 85,000. That would not be enough to overcome his deficit. ( And my opinion is that it is HIGHLY unlikely that 65 % of the provisional and absentee ballots would go to Kerry.) But Kerry folks can keep hoping if it helps them to sleep better

 

[bipshoft]

Pineapple

I do tend to agree with you but keep in mind that there are out of state votes that need to be counted as well as provisional voters, also this appears to be the key state so all rules are off

Also if this was not a state in play I would doubt it would be all over the news

 

[bipshoft]

btw I am a ohio native....so I am in tune to the process