GOV/MIL Florida Gov Ron DeSantis Reveals New Law to Punish Rioters & Their Funders; Allow Riot Victims to Sue Govt Officials & More!

Daytonabill0001

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Florida Gov Ron DeSantis Reveals New Law to Punish Rioters & Their Funders; Allow Riot Victims to Sue Govt Officials

Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Sep. 21, 2020

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Monday unveiled astonishing new legislation to punish violent rioters, add RICO liability to those funding their operations, allow victims of rioters to sue local government officials who left them defenseless against the mob in dereliction of their duties and more.

"Today I announced bold legislation that creates new criminal offenses and increases penalties for those who target law enforcement and participate in violent or disorderly assemblies. We will always stand with our men and women in uniform who keep our communities safe". pic.twitter.com/ITl5GmmrZJ
— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) September 21, 2020

From FOX 13: Florida's governor, surrounded by sheriffs, police chiefs and state legislative leaders, announced a new bill that will increase penalties against protesters involved in looting and violence. The proposal will also cut state funding to cities that "defund the police."

The bill will be introduced in the next legislative session, and will push felony charges against violent protesters, including against those who block roadways.

"I look at what goes on in Portland. They'll have people, they'll arrest them," Governor Ron DeSantis said during Monday's press conference. "They're all scraggly-looking ANTIFA-types. They get their mugshot taken, then they get released. It's like a carousel; on and on it goes."

"That's not going to happen in here in Florida," he added.

DeSantis is giving Floridians a reason to vote Republican. Their next legislative session starts next year and DeSantis said every official running right now should be made to go on record stating whether they support the bill.
A provision in the bill would go after local governments who appear to be focusing on cuts to police departments, and in turn will cut state funding to those municipalities. However, DeSantis said if it appears to be a normal budget cut, then the local government won't lose state funding.

Blocking streets, or obstructing traffic during an unpermitted protest would become a third-degree felony under the bill. Drivers would not be liable for injury or death if they are fleeing for safety, the governor explained.

If the proposal passes, those convicted of participating in a violent of disorderly assembly will be ineligible for state benefits. The individual will also not be eligible for state or local government employment.

Here's the bulletpoints from the "Combating Violence, Disorder and Looting and Law Enforcement Protection Act" summary above:

New Criminal Offenses to Combat Rioting, Looting and Violence:

A. Prohibition on Violent or Disorderly Assemblies: 3rd degree felony when 7 or more persons are involved in an assembly and cause damage to property or injury to other persons.
B. Prohibition on Obstructing Roadways: 3rd degree felony to obstruct traffic during an unpermitted protest, demonstration or violent or disorderly assembly; driver is NOT liable for injury or death caused if fleeing for safety from a mob.
C. Prohibition on Destroying or Toppling Monuments: 2nd degree felony to destroy public property during a violent or disorderly assembly.
D. Prohibition on Harassment in Public Accommodations: 1st degree misdemeanor for a participant in a violent or disorderly assembly to harass or intimidate a person at a public accommodation, such as a restaurant.
E. RICO Liability: RICO liability attaches to anyone who organizes or funds a violent or disorderly assembly.

Increased Penalties

A. Mandatory Minimum Jail Sentence: Striking a law enforcement officer (including with a projectile) during a violent or disorderly assembly = 6 months mandatory minimum jail sentence.
B. Offense Enhancements: Offense and/or sentence enhancements for: (1) throwing an object during a violent or disorderly assembly that strikes a civilian or law enforcement officer; (2) assault/battery of a law enforcement officer during a violent or disorderly assembly; and (3) participation in a violent or disorderly assembly by an individual from another state.

Citizen and Taxpayer Protection Measures

A. No “Defund the Police” Permitted: Prohibits state grants or aid to any local government that slashes the budget for law enforcement services.
B. Victim Compensation: Waives sovereign immunity to allow a victim of a crime related to a violent or disorderly assembly to sue local government for damages where the local government is grossly negligent in protecting persons and property.
C. Government Employment/Benefits: Terminates state benefits and makes anyone ineligible for employment by state/local government if convicted of participating in a violent or disorderly assembly.
D. Bail: No bond or bail until first appearance in court if charged with a crime related to participating in a violent or disorderly assembly; rebuttable presumption against bond or bail after first appearance.


DeSantis gave a press conference on the proposed legislation:

This is an incredible piece of legislation which should be adopted throughout the entire country.

Removing sovereign immunity from officials who allow the riots to occur is perhaps the most important of all.

When the government allows riotous mobs to operate unimpeded and prevents police from doing their jobs all the violence the mob commits lays squarely at the feet of the officials who created the situation of lawlessness -- and yet they're never held accountable.

On top of that, as we just saw with Jake Gardner, government officials are going a step further and criminally charging those who defend themselves from the mob when they and their property are attacked.

All these riots in Democrat-controlled cities are effectively state-sanctioned violence and the criminal officials allowing them to occur need to be held personally responsible and thrown in prison.

Now how's that for Florida Man? :D
 

Daytonabill0001

Wheat or Tare, which are you?
Florida presently have no laws that exposes local governments to lawsuits resulting from deaths or injuries caused by ordered stand downs of the Law Enforcement officers. Additionally, this new law being legislated also provides for RICO indictment against those who lead and or merely fund violent demonstrations or riots.

This new law has a bevy of new laws or tools to prevent events like the riots across the country. The State of Florida presently does not provide a course of compensation to burned down buildings and businesses and attempts to remedy that by making the cities responsible and liable.

That's good law.
 

Daytonabill0001

Wheat or Tare, which are you?
And the Florida Supreme Court blocks in...

3...

2..

1,
This court tends to lean to conservative values as the judicial consensus is 4 liberal justices vs 5 conservative justices. The liberal justices tend to vote as a pack, thus insuring 5-4 splits leaning towards conservative views.

Under such a consensus, the Florida Supreme Court has upheld the requirement that a felon must pay or discharge his financial obligations resulting from his crimes before he can have his voting rights restored.

Under the present consensus of the Florida Supreme Court, if any challenges against the new law once passed arise, most likely they will side with the Florida Legislature. I don't see any overturning of this law. It looks like good law.
 

end game

Veteran Member
Florida presently have no laws that exposes local governments to lawsuits resulting from deaths or injuries caused by ordered stand downs of the Law Enforcement officers. Additionally, this new law being legislated also provides for RICO indictment against those who lead and or merely fund violent demonstrations or riots.

This new law has a bevy of new laws or tools to prevent events like the riots across the country. The State of Florida presently does not provide a course of compensation to burned down buildings and businesses and attempts to remedy that by making the cities responsible and liable.

That's good law.
RICO has been on the books for 50 years Federally. All the stuff going on could easily fall under RICO. Problem is that Gubment is only interested in easy marks and the highest court in the land (CNN,ABC,NBC,CBS, et. all) will act as judge and defense of said "political groups" without presenting the plaintiff side of the case.

Just this morning I heard Mike Gallagher mention the Jake Gardner case with Mark Davis on local radio. He related what a big tragedy this was and how this could be stopped with a political win in November. Just how so I question since nothing gets done, just threats of legislation in which won't be enforced.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Wish the goober would put just as much focus on the here and now, for instance the damage he is doing with his damn eviction and foreclosure moratorium. AND make sheriff departments serve writ of possessions when the court does grant them. Currently most sheriffs are not executing the writs regardless of whether you can get one or not. And in Florida ONLY the sheriff can execute a writ.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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This court tends to lean to conservative values as the judicial consensus is 4 liberal justices vs 5 conservative justices. The liberal justices tend to vote as a pack, thus insuring 5-4 splits leaning towards conservative views.

Under such a consensus, the Florida Supreme Court has upheld the requirement that a felon must pay or discharge his financial obligations resulting from his crimes before he can have his voting rights restored.

Under the present consensus of the Florida Supreme Court, if any challenges against the new law once passed arise, most likely they will side with the Florida Legislature. I don't see any overturning of this law. It looks like good law.
If they can get it through the legislature. That is a bigger question.
 

MetalMan

Veteran Member
We don't need more laws.

There must already be laws on the books, to cover what is going on, with respect to protests
 

Daytonabill0001

Wheat or Tare, which are you?
Wish the goober would put just as much focus on the here and now, for instance the damage he is doing with his damn eviction and foreclosure moratorium. AND make sheriff departments serve writ of possessions when the court does grant them. Currently most sheriffs are not executing the writs regardless of whether you can get one or not. And in Florida ONLY the sheriff can execute a writ.
Kathy, haven't you tried contacting your State Representatives and Congress to voice these concerns? Surely if enough voices are added to this pressing concern, it would become a top priority for your representatives, no?
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Kathy, haven't you tried contacting your State Representatives and Congress to voice these concerns? Surely if enough voices are added to this pressing concern, it would become a top priority for your representatives, no?

nearly every landlord in the state, of one flavor of another, is complaining about this mess. We have landlord organizations beating on his door. Absolutely no one seems to care. We have a lot of entitlement minded people in this state that vote to spend other people’s money. . He thinks he fixed the fiasco he created by saying they have to prove that it was Covid that is causing things. The problem with that is it requires a hearing. If the courthouse isn’t open to hearings you can’t have a hearing. Even if you can get a hearing and then get a writ of possession the sheriffs department is not executing The writ. And that still doesn’t cover the fact that many people are out thousands of dollars in rent collections and they are going up on property taxes and any number of other issues.

of course they didn’t extend the same protections for commercial ventures. In other words that small business that was affected by the Covid closures isn’t protected from eviction.
 

Daytonabill0001

Wheat or Tare, which are you?
nearly every landlord in the state, of one flavor of another, is complaining about this mess. We have landlord organizations beating on his door. Absolutely no one seems to care. We have a lot of entitlement minded people in this state that vote to spend other people’s money. . He thinks he fixed the fiasco he created by saying they have to prove that it was Covid that is causing things. The problem with that is it requires a hearing. If the courthouse isn’t open to hearings you can’t have a hearing. Even if you can get a hearing and then get a writ of possession the sheriffs department is not executing The writ. And that still doesn’t cover the fact that many people are out thousands of dollars in rent collections and they are going up on property taxes and any number of other issues.

of course they didn’t extend the same protections for commercial ventures. In other words that small business that was affected by the Covid closures isn’t protected from eviction.
Wow Kathy! I never heard about the uproar, that IS a mess. I'm sorry all of this happened. Weird thing is, they're still building full-tilt, these mega Apartment complexes all around me... Big ones that have well over a thousand luxury apartments apiece...

I don't know what's going to happen, but I would lean towards keeping the property taxes especially if your local city or county government were the ones who did the lock downs and closed the businesses... They shouldn't expect any taxes if they shut jobs down which throttled rent payments. What a mess. It would be interesting to Guess The Party or GTP...
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
This court tends to lean to conservative values as the judicial consensus is 4 liberal justices vs 5 conservative justices. The liberal justices tend to vote as a pack, thus insuring 5-4 splits leaning towards conservative views.

Under such a consensus, the Florida Supreme Court has upheld the requirement that a felon must pay or discharge his financial obligations resulting from his crimes before he can have his voting rights restored.

Under the present consensus of the Florida Supreme Court, if any challenges against the new law once passed arise, most likely they will side with the Florida Legislature. I don't see any overturning of this law. It looks like good law.

I saw an article posted on Facebook claiming that Michael Bloomberg has raised some sixteen million dollars to pay the fines ONLY for black and hispanic felons in Florida, so they can have their voting rights restored. I'll see if I can find the article again to add here.

Kathleen

Here is a link to one of the articles, but there were several others. Looks like buying votes to me.


And another link, Breitbart this time:

 
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Daytonabill0001

Wheat or Tare, which are you?
I saw an article posted on Facebook claiming that Michael Bloomberg has raised some sixteen million dollars to pay the fines ONLY for black and hispanic felons in Florida, so they can have their voting rights restored. I'll see if I can find the article again to add here.

Kathleen
I saw that but didn't know it was just for Black and Hispanic felons... I wish the State would have stopped that somehow and made sure the felons had to pay it off from income of their own...

Would sure be funny if somehow it got to the courts and was overturned with no way of getting that money back...
 

ghost

Veteran Member
Florida Gov Ron DeSantis Reveals New Law to Punish Rioters & Their Funders; Allow Riot Victims to Sue Govt Officials

Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Sep. 21, 2020

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis on Monday unveiled astonishing new legislation to punish violent rioters, add RICO liability to those funding their operations, allow victims of rioters to sue local government officials who left them defenseless against the mob in dereliction of their duties and more.

"Today I announced bold legislation that creates new criminal offenses and increases penalties for those who target law enforcement and participate in violent or disorderly assemblies. We will always stand with our men and women in uniform who keep our communities safe". pic.twitter.com/ITl5GmmrZJ
— Ron DeSantis (@GovRonDeSantis) September 21, 2020

From FOX 13: Florida's governor, surrounded by sheriffs, police chiefs and state legislative leaders, announced a new bill that will increase penalties against protesters involved in looting and violence. The proposal will also cut state funding to cities that "defund the police."

The bill will be introduced in the next legislative session, and will push felony charges against violent protesters, including against those who block roadways.

"I look at what goes on in Portland. They'll have people, they'll arrest them," Governor Ron DeSantis said during Monday's press conference. "They're all scraggly-looking ANTIFA-types. They get their mugshot taken, then they get released. It's like a carousel; on and on it goes."

"That's not going to happen in here in Florida," he added.

DeSantis is giving Floridians a reason to vote Republican. Their next legislative session starts next year and DeSantis said every official running right now should be made to go on record stating whether they support the bill.
A provision in the bill would go after local governments who appear to be focusing on cuts to police departments, and in turn will cut state funding to those municipalities. However, DeSantis said if it appears to be a normal budget cut, then the local government won't lose state funding.

Blocking streets, or obstructing traffic during an unpermitted protest would become a third-degree felony under the bill. Drivers would not be liable for injury or death if they are fleeing for safety, the governor explained.

If the proposal passes, those convicted of participating in a violent of disorderly assembly will be ineligible for state benefits. The individual will also not be eligible for state or local government employment.

Here's the bulletpoints from the "Combating Violence, Disorder and Looting and Law Enforcement Protection Act" summary above:

New Criminal Offenses to Combat Rioting, Looting and Violence:

A. Prohibition on Violent or Disorderly Assemblies: 3rd degree felony when 7 or more persons are involved in an assembly and cause damage to property or injury to other persons.
B. Prohibition on Obstructing Roadways: 3rd degree felony to obstruct traffic during an unpermitted protest, demonstration or violent or disorderly assembly; driver is NOT liable for injury or death caused if fleeing for safety from a mob.
C. Prohibition on Destroying or Toppling Monuments: 2nd degree felony to destroy public property during a violent or disorderly assembly.
D. Prohibition on Harassment in Public Accommodations: 1st degree misdemeanor for a participant in a violent or disorderly assembly to harass or intimidate a person at a public accommodation, such as a restaurant.
E. RICO Liability: RICO liability attaches to anyone who organizes or funds a violent or disorderly assembly.

Increased Penalties

A. Mandatory Minimum Jail Sentence: Striking a law enforcement officer (including with a projectile) during a violent or disorderly assembly = 6 months mandatory minimum jail sentence.
B. Offense Enhancements: Offense and/or sentence enhancements for: (1) throwing an object during a violent or disorderly assembly that strikes a civilian or law enforcement officer; (2) assault/battery of a law enforcement officer during a violent or disorderly assembly; and (3) participation in a violent or disorderly assembly by an individual from another state.

Citizen and Taxpayer Protection Measures

A. No “Defund the Police” Permitted: Prohibits state grants or aid to any local government that slashes the budget for law enforcement services.
B. Victim Compensation: Waives sovereign immunity to allow a victim of a crime related to a violent or disorderly assembly to sue local government for damages where the local government is grossly negligent in protecting persons and property.
C. Government Employment/Benefits: Terminates state benefits and makes anyone ineligible for employment by state/local government if convicted of participating in a violent or disorderly assembly.
D. Bail: No bond or bail until first appearance in court if charged with a crime related to participating in a violent or disorderly assembly; rebuttable presumption against bond or bail after first appearance.


DeSantis gave a press conference on the proposed legislation:

This is an incredible piece of legislation which should be adopted throughout the entire country.

Removing sovereign immunity from officials who allow the riots to occur is perhaps the most important of all.

When the government allows riotous mobs to operate unimpeded and prevents police from doing their jobs all the violence the mob commits lays squarely at the feet of the officials who created the situation of lawlessness -- and yet they're never held accountable.

On top of that, as we just saw with Jake Gardner, government officials are going a step further and criminally charging those who defend themselves from the mob when they and their property are attacked.

All these riots in Democrat-controlled cities are effectively state-sanctioned violence and the criminal officials allowing them to occur need to be held personally responsible and thrown in prison.

Now how's that for Florida Man? :D
Take the Rioters & Their Funders and feed them to the sharks, problems solved ?
 
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