MNKYPOX First Dog Infected With Monkeypox After "Sharing Bed" With Gay Couple

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Just reading the thread title makes a person want to gag, to even try and mentally image such a thing makes a person want to take a shower.

The left's cultural revolution beginning in the 60's removed removed the diagnosis of “homosexuality” from the second edition of the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). Another victory was Roe v Wade in 1973. In 1975 they won their first war, in 1977 the first leftist president was inaugurated. Our slide into hell has only been slowed down by a couple bumps in their road (Regan & Trump). And all during this time the homosexual movement was brought out from the closet and now the deepest mental cases within their community are running the regime. With regards to the DSM, people choosing to be of a different sex than they are born and then acting it out in public are truly mentally ill, and should be noted as a disease and treated as such. It just shows that the American Psychiatric Association is a bunch of whack jobs themselves.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
During lunchtime today (poor me!), National Public Radio reported that the dog got anal monkeypox by licking its infected owner, then licking its own butt.

No need to jump to conclusions here, folks! :whistle:

I will always jump to that conclusion because I know what they do. They proudly write about it. I will always defend the dogs. To my dying breath.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
And THEY keep spreading this...sad an animal got this this from deadbeat idiots.

Warning: People with this can't be trusted to 'keep it to themselves'...so it will continue to spread.


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From what I've been reading, some of them are wearing this disease like a badge of honor trying to spread it to everyone else. Sick Perverts. They are just nasty who care about no one but themselves and their sick perversion.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
From what I've been reading, some of them are wearing this disease like a badge of honor trying to spread it to everyone else. Sick Perverts. They are just nasty who care about no one but themselves and their sick perversion.
Some did that with AIDS. If I have it, I'm going to give it to you out of spite.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
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Monkeypox And The Face Of Gay Promiscuity​

Promiscuous gay German man's nose nearly rots off from monkeypox. He also had advanced syphilis and HIV, but didn't know it.

That's a pretty horrible picture, innit? It's a 40-year-old German monkeypox patient whose nose began to rot off after he caught the disease. Turns out that he was HIV-positive and didn't know, plus was infected with advanced syphilis -- also a surprise to him. He told doctors he had never been tested for a sexually transmitted infection. There he was, celebrating diversity like a champ, and now his nose is partially rotted off. Heaven knows who he passed along HIV, syphilis, and monkeypox to along the way.

Continued.........

 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Promiscuous gay German man's nose nearly rots off from monkeypox. He also had advanced syphilis and HIV, but didn't know it.
I have repeatedly mentioned the power of denial. How long did this guy see his deterioration in the mirror before he could no longer ignore it? At what point did he stop using a mirror rather than confront it? I like to think my mind is not easily boggled, but ...
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I have repeatedly mentioned the power of denial. How long did this guy see his deterioration in the mirror before he could no longer ignore it? At what point did he stop using a mirror rather than confront it? I like to think my mind is not easily boggled, but ...

Kind of the same with a meth user. The drug has blinded their minds in this case its lust for sex at any cost even up to the cost of his own life.
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Kind of the same with a meth user. The drug has blinded their minds in this case its lust for sex at any cost even up to the cost of his own life.

Addiction are all the same........whether its sex, drugs or food.........little by little you slip until you just don't give a damn and then go full speed ahead into the end............out in a blaze of addictive demented glory without even caring.
 
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Covid-19 arrives. The country, businesses and schools are shut down for months on end. People are fired from their jobs for not being Jabbed. Monkey Pox arrives through the gay community. The gay community is encouraged to continue their lifestyle and their parades as normal but use caution. What is wrong with this picture?
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
During lunchtime today (poor me!), National Public Radio reported that the dog got anal monkeypox by licking its infected owner, then licking its own butt.

No need to jump to conclusions here, folks! :whistle:


um.....ok


in their trying to explain this away and not have people jump to any conclusions (ha!), they actually steer people directly to the place they want to avoid.



let's see here.....so the men have anal ulcerations, and they say that the dog licked the men (this is the quiet part- ON THE ANAL ULCERATIONS), and then licked itself on butt causing the anal monkey pox.

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PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Covid-19 arrives. The country, businesses and schools are shut down for months on end. People are fired from their jobs for not being Jabbed. Monkey Pox arrives through the gay community. The gay community is encouraged to continue their lifestyle and their parades as normal but use caution. What is wrong with this picture?

Seems like the social Marxists in society spend a lot of effort making excuses for same sex anal intercourse these days..........
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
I guess there is a reason why the Old Testament refers to sodomites as "dogs"

ETA--- in the NT, too-- in Revelation, describing who would be in the New Jerusalem (the City of God) and who would not--
there is a verse saying who is "without" (outside) the City--
among there are "dogs, whoremongers,..." and it goes on from there.

I used to (when I was a little girl) wonder what God had against dogs--until I realized it didn't mean the fuzzy, 4-legged pet kind.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Just reading the thread title makes a person want to gag, to even try and mentally image such a thing makes a person want to take a shower.

The left's cultural revolution beginning in the 60's removed removed the diagnosis of “homosexuality” from the second edition of the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). Another victory was Roe v Wade in 1973. In 1975 they won their first war, in 1977 the first leftist president was inaugurated. Our slide into hell has only been slowed down by a couple bumps in their road (Regan & Trump). And all during this time the homosexual movement was brought out from the closet and now the deepest mental cases within their community are running the regime. With regards to the DSM, people choosing to be of a different sex than they are born and then acting it out in public are truly mentally ill, and should be noted as a disease and treated as such. It just shows that the American Psychiatric Association is a bunch of whack jobs themselves.

I went to the link and read the whole article and comments.

Found it VERY interesting that the author, himself, was once involved in a very promiscuous lifestyle before he became a Christian.

He has an interesting take on all this, as one having lived in both world (of heterosexual promiscuity as well as Christian chastity) of how the "addiction" of sex / pleasure can be so all-encompassing that it comes to the point that nothing else matters other than to seek one's own pleasure--by any means possible and as often as possible.

BUT--- in reading his post-article comments, I found the following:


UPDATE.2: From NBC News:


Since the outset of the global monkeypox outbreak in May, public health and infectious disease experts have told the public that the virus is largely transmitting through skin-to-skin contact, in particular during sex between men.
Now, however, an expanding cadre of experts has come to believe that sex between men itself — both anal as well as oral intercourse — is likely the main driver of global monkeypox transmission. The skin contact that comes with sex, these experts say, is probably much less of a risk factor.
In recent weeks, a growing body of scientific evidence — including a trio of studies published in peer-reviewed journals, as well as reports from national, regional and global health authorities — has suggested that experts may have framed monkeypox’s typical transmission route precisely backward.
Now -- "WHAT" exactly is "backwards" about how monkey pox is transmitted is not given in the comments.

However, I went to the source ("From NBC News" link above). The site will not allow copy / paste of its text, but it basically says that it is the transmission of semen between gay men in sexual contact, NOT just "skin contact", that is the method of transmission of Monkey Pox.

Full link to article (which I cannot reproduce here as it will not allow copy/paste):

For those interested--here is the author's own testimony of how he turned from the emptiness of the sexually promiscuous lifestyle to the Spirit-controlled life as a Christian:

"Yeah, me too. I was never any kind of "slut," if that word can be applied to men. But it took me a while to work out that what the world (meaning popular culture) told me about sex was a lie. I was not especially sexually active in my pre-Christian years, but that wasn't for lack of trying. What slowed me down was the misery I felt after doing the deed. Everything was clear after that: the lies I told the women, and myself, about what we were doing. I loved sex, but more than that, I really did want it to be about love, real love. I kept trying to tell myself that it was fine for it to be meaningless, because that's what I was supposed to think. It was a lie. It was only after my conversion, and learning the value of chastity, that I was able to see the true meaning of sex. It kept me away from surrendering my life to Christ for years, because I thought -- I had been told -- that it was my birthright to enjoy commitment-free sexual pleasure. Hadn't we put away the hypocrisy of our parents' generation? Weren't we, you know, liberated? I believed that with my mind, but my heart, and my body, said otherwise.


For me, the truth came with the suddenly real prospect that I might have made a woman I had been with after a drunken hook-up pregnant, and that if she was, and had an abortion (as she defiantly told me she would when I told her that I would stay with her and help her raise the baby), my opposition to the abortion would in no way eliminate the moral guilt I would bear because of my foolishness. Then I had to face the ugly reality of the life I had chosen. It was a moment of moral reckoning for me. I had to think back to the woman I had been involved with the year before, who had really thought I loved her because I said so with my body; when I broke up with her, she was devastated. Many years later, I found her online and asked for her forgiveness. I didn't know what I was doing. Mostly. But deep down, of course I knew, but I did it anyway, because I didn't want to be some kind of Christian freak.


That man above, with his hideous nose, bears an outer sign of an inward reality. I never had a disfigurement, an STD, or anything like that. But inwardly, I was diseased. And I regretted it. I got to the point, in 1992, of realizing that I wanted the truth, and Christ, more than I wanted my desires. I knew without a shadow of a doubt that the liars in church who told me that my latent Christian scruples were old-fashioned and could be cast aside were deceivers. I had a difficult four years of struggling with chastity between my conversion and my marriage, but in that time in the desert, I matured spiritually, and was able to feel in my body the truth of what I had accepted with my mind at my conversion.


Promiscuous gay male culture is the epitome of the Sexual Revolution. But they are not the only guilty ones, not by a long shot."
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Common sense should tell you a dog's anus is exposed to any monkeypox germs on the bedding just by sitting on it.
not sure if you're being sarcastic here--but the main 'media' credo is it cannot be "casually" contracted by just touching a surface a gay man has touched, but could only be transmitted by skin to skin contact.

However, an NBC news article I just found (and which--interestingly--they will NOT allow to be copy/pasted from) states that new medical studies have shown it is NOT "skin-to-skin" contact that is spreading monkey pox, but that monkeypox is being spread through the actual act of male-to-male sex, in the transmission of semen. (and then, of course, ANYONE an infected male has sex with after he has contracted it will likely get it as well).

Sex between men, not skin contact, is fueling monkeypox, new research suggests​

The claim that skin-to-skin contact during sex between men, not intercourse itself, drives most monkeypox transmission is likely backward, a growing group of experts say.


(again--sorry but I can't post the actual article--NBC has a lock on it and you can't copy/paste) the body of the article. All I could copy was the title / teaser above.)
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
monkeypox is being spread through the actual act of male-to-male sex, in the transmission of semen. (and then, of course, ANYONE an infected male has sex with after he has contracted it will likely get it as well).
Well, somehow 5-year-olds and younger with no known infected contacts are managing to get it, so something is missing in this construct.

There seems to be a consistent effort by well-meaning people to distance themselves from the risk. It won't work.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
not sure if you're being sarcastic here--but the main 'media' credo is it cannot be "casually" contracted by just touching a surface a gay man has touched, but could only be transmitted by skin to skin contact.

However, an NBC news article I just found (and which--interestingly--they will NOT allow to be copy/pasted from) states that new medical studies have shown it is NOT "skin-to-skin" contact that is spreading monkey pox, but that monkeypox is being spread through the actual act of male-to-male sex, in the transmission of semen. (and then, of course, ANYONE an infected male has sex with after he has contracted it will likely get it as well).

Sex between men, not skin contact, is fueling monkeypox, new research suggests​

The claim that skin-to-skin contact during sex between men, not intercourse itself, drives most monkeypox transmission is likely backward, a growing group of experts say.


(again--sorry but I can't post the actual article--NBC has a lock on it and you can't copy/paste) the body of the article. All I could copy was the title / teaser above.)
Well,I dont trust NBC NEWS.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Well, somehow 5-year-olds and younger with no known infected contacts are managing to get it, so something is missing in this construct.
Not if you read articles like the one recently posted about the gay couple that adopted two boys and were then using them for child porn pics/ videos.

I've heard of perverts even raping babies.......
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Well,I dont trust NBC NEWS.
As Superman once said about the jewel thief-- "You ought to listen to this man."

I believe it is BECAUSE this goes against the 'gay is good!' narrative that NBC made it impossible to copy/paste the article.

It won't contaminate you just to go read it.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Well, somehow 5-year-olds and younger with no known infected contacts are managing to get it, so something is missing in this construct.

There seems to be a consistent effort by well-meaning people to distance themselves from the risk. It won't work.

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WALTON COUNTY, Ga. — A Walton County couple has been arrested and are facing child sex crime charges for acts deputies say they committed against their adopted children.

Last month, the Walton County Sheriff’s Office raided a home in unincorporated Loganville where they believed a man was downloading child pornography. When interviewing him, the suspect admitted to collecting child porn and identified a second suspect in Oxford.

The suspect told deputies that the other suspect was making the child porn with at least one child who lived in his home. The first suspect’s identity has not been released.

Deputies were able to get arrest warrants for both adult men living in the home, William Dale Zulock, 32, and Zachary Jacoby Zulock, 35.

Walton County’s Division of Family and Child Services joined deputies in responding to the home to help protect the two children in the home.

After making sure the children were safe, investigators found evidence that the couple, who were the adoptive fathers of the pair of brothers living there, were recording themselves committing sexually abusive acts against the children.
 

drafter

Veteran Member
It’s amazing the mental backflips some people do to make it “not a gay thing”. “Oh but kids get it!”. Yes, kids who have been in close contact or more likely sexually abused by fags! You don’t get a rash on your ass from touching a handrail! Quit trying to make excuses for fags spreading this disease.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
NBC made it impossible to copy/paste the article.

It can be copied, if you want:

"Since the outset of the global monkeypox outbreak in May, public health and infectious disease experts have told the public that the virus is largely transmitting through skin-to-skin contact, in particular during sex between men.

Now, however, an expanding cadre of experts has come to believe that sex between men itself — both anal as well as oral intercourse — is likely the main driver of global monkeypox transmission. The skin contact that comes with sex, these experts say, is probably much less of a risk factor."
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
It can be copied, if you want:

"Since the outset of the global monkeypox outbreak in May, public health and infectious disease experts have told the public that the virus is largely transmitting through skin-to-skin contact, in particular during sex between men.

Now, however, an expanding cadre of experts has come to believe that sex between men itself — both anal as well as oral intercourse — is likely the main driver of global monkeypox transmission. The skin contact that comes with sex, these experts say, is probably much less of a risk factor."
Well if YOU can copy it, then please do so.

When I try, on my computer, it won't work.

(and since I DID just now, w/o problems, copy/paste the article from WSB news on the two gays abusing their adopted boys, I maintain there's something NBC has done to "lock" this article to prevent its being copied--at least on my old Windows 7 OS)
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
That's not a necessary part of the sequence. The men could have had lesions anywhere.


Yes. There are a lot of not necessary part, but come on.


Or maybe it is a necessary part.

They COULD have lesions anywhere, but the article and anything about this since then, for all their desperate trying to steer it away from people thinking what they are thinking, has not made mention if that. Only the anal ulcerations.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Quit pretending that we are all safe because it happens only to those bad people.
Why are you disputing what MEDICAL DOCTORS are saying--that GAY SEX started this and it is spread by transmission of "semen"?

I neither know nor care why you seem sensitive to this issue, but to honestly admit what appears to be true--that monkey pox IS primarily beginning with and being transmitted by gay male sex or those who have caught it through gay male sex, is no more gay-bashing (or as you put it, calling them "bad people") than saying that ovarian or cervical cancers -- which only women get -- is proof that women are "bad".
 

greysage

On The Level

Sex between men, not skin contact, is fueling monkeypox, new research suggests​

The claim that skin-to-skin contact during sex between men, not intercourse itself, drives most monkeypox transmission is likely backward, a growing group of experts say.

A registered nurse administers an intradermal monkeypox vaccine at a vaccination site on Aug. 15, 2022, in Miami.


A registered nurse administers an intradermal monkeypox vaccine shot at a vaccination site in Miami on Monday.Joe Raedle / Getty Images


Aug. 17, 2022, 11:47 AM EDT
By Benjamin Ryan

Since the outset of the global monkeypox outbreak in May, public health and infectious disease experts have told the public that the virus is largely transmitting through skin-to-skin contact, in particular during sex between men.
Now, however, an expanding cadre of experts has come to believe that sex between men itself — both anal as well as oral intercourse — is likely the main driver of global monkeypox transmission. The skin contact that comes with sex, these experts say, is probably much less of a risk factor.

In recent weeks, a growing body of scientific evidence — including a trio of studies published in peer-reviewed journals, as well as reports from national, regional and global health authorities — has suggested that experts may have framed monkeypox’s typical transmission route precisely backward.




Biden administration moves to stretch out monkeypox vaccine supply amid criticism

AUG. 9, 202203:24

Reconceiving the primary risk factors for transmission is crucial because of how it may affect guidance on reducing the risk of infection, including the question of whether demanding that people with the virus self-isolate has any substantial impact on transmission.

“A growing body of evidence supports that sexual transmission, particularly through seminal fluids, is occurring with the current MPX outbreak,” said Dr. Aniruddha Hazra, medical director of the University of Chicago Sexual Wellness Clinic, referring to monkeypox and to recent studies that found the virus in semen.

Consequently, scientists told NBC News that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other public health authorities should update their monkeypox communication strategies to more strongly emphasize the centrality of intercourse among gay and bisexual men, who comprise nearly all U.S. cases, to the virus’ spread.

On Aug. 14, Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, an infectious disease physician at the University of Southern California, and Dr. Lao-Tzu Allan-Blitz, a resident physician in global health at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, published an essay on Medium in which they reviewed the science supporting the argument that during the current outbreak, monkeypox is largely transmitting through anal and oral intercourse between men.

“It looks very clear to us that this is an infection that is transmitting sexually the vast majority of the time,” Allan-Blitz said.

This debate, however, is far from settled.

Dr. Rosamund Lewis, technical lead for monkeypox at the World Health Organization, told NBC News it was “unfortunate but true” that “we don’t know yet” whether the virus is predominantly transmitted through intercourse.
“Completely reading the situation as uniquely due to anal or oral sex is highly likely to be overreach,” she said. “The correlation may appear to be strong, but that does not explain the whole picture of disease caused by this virus. So we need to keep an open mind.”

Some experts in infectious disease see evidence supporting the argument that monkeypox at least transmits more readily through intercourse.

“At this point,” said Dr. Paul Adamson, an infectious disease specialist at the UCLA School of Medicine, “I’m not sure we can say it is primarily the sexual transmission and not the skin-to-skin contact that also occurs during sex that is contributing to the most transmission during this current outbreak. However, emerging data seem to suggest that monkeypox might be more efficiently transmitted sexually.”

Parsing the evidence

In an interview, Klausner, who has submitted a version of his and Allan-Blitz’s essay to a scientific journal for publication, distilled the evidence that he said supports the hypothesis that sex itself fuels the global outbreak into four major points.

First, he noted that, according to the WHO, more than three quarters of global monkeypox cases are among men 18 to 44 years old. This is a typical age breakdown for diagnoses of sexually transmitted infections among gay and bisexual men, he said. What’s more, in recent studies of pooled monkeypox cases among this demographic, 17% to 32% of those diagnosed with the virus received a sexually transmitted infection (STI) diagnosis at the same time.

Second, during the global outbreak, atypical to what has historically been seen in the 11 African nations where the virus has become endemic since first being identified in humans in 1970, monkeypox lesions have in the majority of cases occurred in men’s genital and anorectal areas. This, experts told NBC News, suggests that these were the sites where the virus first passed into the body.

In a study of 197 monkeypox cases in London men published July 28 in The BMJ, the British Medical Association’s journal, researchers found that 56% had lesions in the genital area and 42% had them in their anorectal regions. And in a study published July 21 in The New England Journal of Medicine, a global team of researchers pooled 538 monkeypox cases — also all in men — from around the world and found that 73% had lesions in the genital or anorectal areas.

Third, researchers have found monkeypox in semen and have been able to culture that virus, which suggests it could transmit through ejaculation. Also, the authors of two recent studies have detected the virus after taking anal swabs among men who had monkeypox but were asymptomatic, which indicates that the virus might transmit from the anorectal area during anal intercourse before people develop symptoms. Experts say more research is needed on both these fronts.

Referring to bodily fluids such as semen, vaginal fluids and blood, the WHO’s Lewis said, “Research is underway to find out more about whether people can spread monkeypox through the exchange of these fluids during and after symptomatic infection.”

Finally, Klausner noted that scientists have identified an association between specific sexual acts and the location of monkeypox lesions.

The authors of a paper published Aug. 8 in The Lancet documenting 181 cases of the virus in Spain found that 38% of the men who reported having receptive anal intercourse, called “bottoming,” developed proctitis, or inflammation of the rectum. Just 7% of the men who reported sex with men without bottoming developed this potentially excruciating symptom. Additionally, 95% of the men with tonsillitis reported performing oral sex on a man.




Biden administration declares monkeypox a public health emergency

AUG. 4, 202200:34

Dr. Oriol Mitjà, an associate professor in infectious disease at the University Hospital Germans Trias i Pujol in Spain and the joint senior co-author of the study in The Lancet, said monkeypox transmits most efficiently when lesions come into contact with mucus membranes in the anorectal area, genitals, mouth and throat.

Monkeypox is more likely to transmit through oral or anal sex than through contact with external skin, which would need some sort of defect, such as a wound, to allow entry of the virus, Mitjà said.
Dr. Dimie Ogoina, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at Niger Delta University in Nigeria, acknowledged Mitjà’s research supporting the connection between types of sex between men and monkeypox outcomes.
“This is not to say that females or heterosexuals are not at risk of monkeypox or that the female genital mucosa is not prone to abrasions during sexual activity,” Ogoina said.

Global trends

Some experts, like the WHO’s Lewis, maintain that the main mode of monkeypox transmission remains skin-to-skin contact — including during sex. Others, like Klausner and Adamson, say a number of infectious disease experts may resist believing intercourse is a predominant driver of the current outbreak because that is not how monkeypox has tended to spread in past decades.
“Historically, the primary mode of transmission of monkeypox was through skin-skin contact, though there might have been some suggestion of sexual transmission in prior outbreaks. It takes some time and additional data to overturn our understanding of transmission,” Adamson said.

Monkeypox has been diagnosed in 38,019 people in 93 countries during this current global outbreak, according to the CDC. And the WHO reports that among cases with proper data, 97% have been diagnosed in gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men. The consistency with which cases have remained so overwhelmingly in this demographic, some experts argue, is further evidence that the virus transmits among them through a behavior that is exclusive to the group — anal intercourse and oral sex between men.

Meanwhile, across the global outbreak, the virus is also apparently following the same transmission patterns traditionally seen in Africa. But experts assert that just as in those African nations, when the virus transmits through nonsexual means, it does so with dramatically lower efficiency — and thus at a rate similar to the relatively slow spread seen in Africa.

Specifically, the authors of The New England Journal of Medicine paper estimated that just 0.8% of the cases they analyzed were due to nonsexual close contact and 0.6% were due to household contact. By contrast, 95% of these cases were likely acquired during sex between men. The authors of the Lancet paper estimated that 3% of the cases they analyzed transmitted through nonsexual household contact.

Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease physician at University of California, San Francisco, said the small number of global monkeypox cases in children have likely been transmitted through cuddling or hugging. She pointed to various STIs, including herpes, that in rare cases can also transmit nonsexually.

“STIs such as syphilis or chancroid are commonly found in children in the tropics, where abrasions on the arms and legs are common,” Mitjà said.

Referring to the recent rapid expansion of the global outbreak, Ogoina said, “It is all about numbers — the more sexual partners, the greater the likelihood for many to become exposed.”

If monkeypox is indeed overwhelmingly being transmitted through intercourse and rarely through more casual means, this challenges burdensome public health guidelines recommending that people with the virus isolate for the course of their illness, which can last for weeks, Mitjà and his coauthors argued in their paper.

Klausner called for updated communications from the CDC and other health authorities to emphasize the importance of sexual intercourse to monkeypox’s transmission.

“If we accept that this is how it’s spread, we know how to reduce the spread: by awareness and education and encouraging people for the time being to reduce sex with multiple partners until they get vaccinated,” Klausner said “And if they can’t reduce the behavior, to try to use a condom.”

CDC spokesperson Kristen Nordlund said the agency’s recent analyses “show most diagnosed cases of monkeypox in the United States are associated with sexual and intimate contact, which can involve a range of behaviors. Additional analyses are needed to understand if specific sexual and intimate behaviors that occur during sex are disproportionately contributing to spread.”

Harvard’s Lao-Tzu Allan-Blitz acknowledged the pervasive concern that telling the public that monkeypox transmits sexually among gay men will fuel homophobia. He said there is, however, also a cost to keeping quiet about how the virus apparently transmits: This keeps people at risk from best understanding how to protect themselves.
“In our silence, we can also do harm,” he said.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Well, somehow 5-year-olds and younger with no known infected contacts are managing to get it, so something is missing in this construct.

There seems to be a consistent effort by well-meaning people to distance themselves from the risk. It won't work.
From the NBC article (posted in full by greysage--thank you!)

Specifically, the authors of The New England Journal of Medicine paper estimated that just 0.8% of the cases they analyzed were due to nonsexual close contact and 0.6% were due to household contact. By contrast, 95% of these cases were likely acquired during sex between men. The authors of the Lancet paper estimated that 3% of the cases they analyzed transmitted through nonsexual household contact.


Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious disease physician at University of California, San Francisco, said the small number of global monkeypox cases in children have likely been transmitted through cuddling or hugging. She pointed to various STIs, including herpes, that in rare cases can also transmit nonsexually.


“STIs such as syphilis or chancroid are commonly found in children in the tropics, where abrasions on the arms and legs are common,” Mitjà said.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Why are you disputing what MEDICAL DOCTORS are saying--that GAY SEX started this and it is spread by transmission of "semen"?
Medical doctors also told us to mask up and get jabbed. Medical doctors are not the Oracle of Truth. Many medical doctors appear to have an agenda. Gay sex was certainly what spun up this flywheel, and I have no reason to doubt that semen will spread the infection. But to say that's all there is to worry about is childishly simplistic.

It's early days, we don't know what we're dealing with, and this doesn't seem scary enough for a MP virus that was reportedly tinkered with in Wuhan. I suspect worse is coming and lulling people into complacency is not a smart move.
 

Charmer153

Contributing Member
When I learned that monkey pox was mostly a gay STD, it reminded me of AIDS when it first started.
My last year of school a 'medical researcher' came to the school to tell about the this new disease called AIDS. He claimed it started in Africa from guys sleeping with monkeys, and that it is spreading everywhere, and is almost 100% fatal.
Great way to terrify a bunch of high-school kids.
 
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Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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That's not a necessary part of the sequence. The men could have had lesions anywhere.
That’s not a necessary part of the sequence. The men could have had anal sex with the dog. (In fact, it’s almost certain they did.)
 
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