EBOLA Ebola Virus Antibody Prevalence in Dogs and Human Risk

auxman

Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit...
Besides the fact that the infected HCW has a Cocker Spaniel ("Bentley"), whom the Dallas Mayor and County Judge have pledged to protect at all costs, I wonder how many of the other "patients" under observation have pet dogs?

IMHO, any dogs (and possibly any pets that have direct physical contact, for that matter) belonging to those under observation/quarantine need to be immediately (and humanely) euthanized and their remains promptly incinerated.

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33dInd

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Besides the fact that the infected HCW has a Cocker Spaniel ("Bentley"), whom the Dallas Mayor and County Judge have pledged to protect at all costs, I wonder how many of the other "patients" under observation have pet dogs?

IMHO, any dogs (and possibly any pets that have direct physical contact, for that matter) belonging to those under observation/quarantine need to be immediately (and humanely) euthanized and their remains promptly incinerated.

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your not a dog person are you...........They can be quartined and their systems tested for the virus.........no need to kill them all.
 

LightEcho

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your not a dog person are you...........They can be quartined and their systems tested for the virus.........no need to kill them all.

Do they ever get clean of the virus? Some animals can carry diseases indefinitely without showing symptoms.
 

auxman

Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit...
I am a dog person... Dachshunds... and as much as I love them, I would still put them down... Any possible vector would have to be neutralized...
 

naturallysweet

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They have a test that to them shows that dogs develop antibodies. The problem with that test is that it also shows that dogs in Spain (pre the imported ebola cases) had antibodies as well.

The test may or may not be showing anything. But even if it does, they have no proof that dogs can get sick or give Ebola to anyone!

This mad desire to murder dogs is going to kill human beings. Many people with pets will take longer to seek medical aid, or not go at all, if they believe that their furry family members will be murdered.

Isolate the dog for a month or two, but don't kill them unless you can prove that they can give Ebola to anyone.
 

summerthyme

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They have a test that to them shows that dogs develop antibodies. The problem with that test is that it also shows that dogs in Spain (pre the imported ebola cases) had antibodies as well.

The test may or may not be showing anything. But even if it does, they have no proof that dogs can get sick or give Ebola to anyone!

This mad desire to murder dogs is going to kill human beings. Many people with pets will take longer to seek medical aid, or not go at all, if they believe that their furry family members will be murdered.

Isolate the dog for a month or two, but don't kill them unless you can prove that they can give Ebola to anyone.

THIS!! IF- God forbid- someone in our household caught Ebola, I'd immediately kennel the dogs, including Dixie, the only true "house dog" (she goes where I go, always). They could be fed and watered from the outside, and we'd don protective equipment for cleaning chores. It appears from the PDF that the dogs who developed antibodies had access either to Ebola positive animal carcasses, or human waste from Ebola patients. Preventing that should pretty well eliminate the chance of the dogs actually catching the disease.

Still, a month in an isolation kennel is doable, and I'm not putting down a valuable animal without a lot more reason than panic and fear. We already don't "Kiss" our dogs (or allow them to lick our faces)- I know all too well what they eat! Some common sense care should be all that's needed to prevent them from becoming a vector.

(if you have dogs which aren't spayed it would be very wise to not allow any bitches to become pregnant during this time, as any help needed during delivery could expose you to their "body fluids" in the unlikely event that they had been exposed to the virus)

Summerthyme
 

Meadowlark

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Picture this, a year and a half from now, ebola has become airborn and has ravaged at least 40% of the global population. Total societal break down in many but not all areas. You happen to live in one of the areas that has faired the worst. You have survived until now by being well prepared and bugging out in place. You have hid for much of this time and are not lacking for food. However, the water no longer flows from the tap and gas and electricity has not worked in months. You need to venture out regularly for water. Did I mention that since society has broken down, most of the dead are decomposing in place and are being eaten by surviving pets, who have now become potential and likely ebola carriers. Most dogs have all but gone feral and have lost all fear of humans. You have come across one of those feral packs on your way back from the local water source. Now do you feel sorry for fido and his friends or do you shoot them lickity split?
 

Possible Impact

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Auxman,
You'll have to be worried about rats and mice that live in the walls and attics of many homes too.
(especially farther North where temps are lower...)
 

Nean7

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As difficult as it is to think about putting my dogs down, I am glad for this topic because I want to learn what I can and weigh any and all options. In the end, though, for me I don't think I would risk getting infected by them. The virus would have to truly be rampant and things would have to be heading towards chaos, then I believe I would do what is unimaginable to me.
 

Meadowlark

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Even in normal times feral dogs can be an issue. I know of ranchers who routinely have to put feral dogs down. They dont bother reporting them. An unmarked hole solves that problem.
 

33dInd

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Picture this, a year and a half from now, ebola has become airborn and has ravaged at least 40% of the global population. Total societal break down in many but not all areas. You happen to live in one of the areas that has faired the worst. You have survived until now by being well prepared and bugging out in place. You have hid for much of this time and are not lacking for food. However, the water no longer flows from the tap and gas and electricity has not worked in months. You need to venture out regularly for water. Did I mention that since society has broken down, most of the dead are decomposing in place and are being eaten by surviving pets, who have now become potential and likely ebola carriers. Most dogs have all but gone feral and have lost all fear of humans. You have come across one of those feral packs on your way back from the local water source. Now do you feel sorry for fido and his friends or do you shoot them lickity split?
That is a different scenario not related to the OP.
In your scenario the answer is obvious.........for total survival.
 
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