DISASTER Ebola outbreak 'out of control,' says CDC director

[Dennis Olson]

Ebola outbreak 'out of control,' says CDC director

By John Roberts
Published September 02, 2014
FoxNews.com



Just back from a week in the Ebola hot zone, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Dr. Tom Frieden had a dire assessment of the situation on the ground there.

“The bottom line is that despite tremendous efforts from the U.S. government, CDC, from within countries, the number of cases continues to increase and is now increasing rapidly,” Freiden told a press conference at the CDC today.

The virus is moving faster than anyone anticipated and that’s why we need to move now, he said.

During his trip, Freiden visited the three countries hardest hit by the Ebola epidemic – Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea. In Liberia, Frieden donned the familiar yellow suits, face masks and goggles healthcare workers in Africa wear and visited a ward where Ebola patients are being treated.

“There is a window of opportunity to tamp this down”, Frieden said, “but that window is closing…we need action now to scale up the response.”

The World Health Organization (WHO) today said that the “magnitude of the Ebola outbreak has been vastly underestimated.” According to the latest WHO figures, 3,069 people have come down with Ebola. Of them, 1,552 have died— a fatality rate greater than 50 percent. Dr. Frieden told Fox News that unless urgent action is taken to contain the epidemic, it may be impossible to stop. There are not enough hospitals, wards, clinics, doctors or nurses to take care of the numbers of people who are coming down with Ebola, he said.

The world, Frieden said, needs to come together to open more wards and clinics and train health care workers or Ebola could continue to spread to other countries. The West African nation of Senegal yesterday declared a first-priority health emergency after a 21-year-old student who traveled to Senegal from Guinea showed symptoms of Ebola. His brother had died from the disease days earlier. The Democratic Republic of Congo is investigating 24 cases of Ebola hemmorhagic fever, though those cases are believed to be caused by a different strain than the virus that is devastating West Africa.

Frieden says every nation of the world should be worried.

“It’s not just in the interest of these countries to get it under control. For every day that this continues to spread in West Africa, the likelihood of someone getting infected and becoming sick elsewhere increases,” he told reporters.

The CDC is dispatching a team to Senegal in an attempt to prevent any further spread of the disease there.

But Frieden issued an ominous prediction for what might happen if the world doesn’t come together to fight the disease. Rather than the sporadic outbreaks of Ebola that have come and gone since the virus was first described in Congo in 1976, Ebola may become endemic— that is, there will always be a certain level of infection in some African nations, marked by more frequent outbreaks than in the past.

It’s certainly possible to feel hopeless,” Frieden said today. “But it’s not hopeless. We do know how to stop Ebola. The window of opportunity is not yet closed. We can turn this around.”

Frieden also warned that the virus may threaten the economies of African nations struggling to dig themselves out of third-world poverty. The more it spreads on the continent, the greater the risk becomes that a traveler will touch down in an American city— infected with Ebola.

John Roberts joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in January 2011 as a senior national correspondent and is based in the Atlanta bureau.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/...-control-says-cdc-director/?intcmp=latestnews

 

[Countrymouse]

Dennis--

I believe this is an older report, from before Dr. Frieden went to Africa; below is the latest report (dated today, Sept. 3) that he just issued yesterday:

Having returned from his 'fact-finding' trip to Africa, here's what Dr. Tom ("We-know-how-to-control-Ebola") Frieden had to say:

From PFI, bolding is Pixie's.

UPDATE 2-U.S. CDC says Ebola threatens stability of stricken countries

Wed Sep 3, 2014 1:58am IST
(Adds details on U.S. doctor, experimental drug)

By Julie Steenhuysen
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/09/02/health-ebola-cdc-idINL1N0R31X520140902

(Reuters) - The world's worst Ebola outbreak is threatening the stability of affected and neighboring countries in West Africa, and requires a "massive" effort to bring it under control, the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Tuesday.

Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the U.S. health agency who just returned from West Africa, said he expected the number of Ebola cases to accelerate in the next two weeks and urged governments to act now.

"We're likely to see significant increases in cases. Already we have widespread transmission Liberia. In Sierra Leone, we're seeing strong signs that that will happen in the near future," he said.

Frieden said the outbreak was the first epidemic of Ebola the world has ever known, meaning it is spreading widely in society and is "threatening the stability" of affected and neighboring countries.

"The challenge isn't knowing what to do. The challenge is doing it now," Frieden said on a conference call with reporters.

On Tuesday, a second U.S. doctor contracted the virus while working with obstetrics patients at a missionary hospital in Monrovia, Liberia, according to the church-affiliated organization SIM USA.

The Charlotte, North Carolina-based group did not identify the physician but said he was not treating Ebola patients and that he had isolated himself immediately when symptoms began.

Since it was detected in the remote jungles of southeastern Guinea early this year, the Ebola outbreak has killed some 1,550 people, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

Frieden, who has been providing regular briefings to President Barack Obama on the outbreak, said there is still a window of opportunity, but said "that window is closing."

Separately, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said on Tuesday it would accelerate development of an experimental Ebola treatment by California biotech Mapp Biopharmaceutical.

It pledged up to $42.3 million in funding for the drug, known as ZMapp, and said the company would manufacture a small amount for early stage safety studies.

The drug has not been tested in humans, but a handful of healthcare workers, including two U.S. aid workers, have received it during the outbreak.

In laboratory testing, ZMapp cured all 18 of the monkeys infected with the virus, including those just hours from death, scientists reported on Friday.

Frieden told the briefing that efforts to develop vaccines and treatments are welcome, but development takes time, and they cannot be counted on to stop the epidemic.

"We need action now to scale up the response. We know how to stop Ebola. The challenge is to scale it up to the massive levels needed to stop this outbreak," he said.

Swift response helped tire manufacturer Bridgestone Corp contain Ebola when an employee at its Firestone plant in Liberia became infected.

Frieden said the company built isolation rooms and identified 73 contacts of the infected individual, then placed them in quarantine for 21 days. Eleven of those employees became ill, and they were treated in an isolated treatment ward the company built. The effort completely contained the outbreak, Frieden said, adding that that type of response was widely needed.

According the Bridgestone/Firestone website, Firestone Liberia provides jobs for more than 6,100 Liberians. here

Frieden said the virus has not mutated in a way that makes it more transmittable, but the risk of such a mutation increases each day the virus circulates within human populations.

During his tour of clinics, Frieden donned the same gear that local Ebola healthcare workers are wearing to protect themselves from the disease. {i.e. NOT simply mask, gloves, & gown Wink }

"It's roasting hot. It's very difficult to move. It's a very distressing environment. Sweat pours down into your goggles and into your eyes," he said.

Frieden appealed for healthcare workers and hospital administrators experienced in this type of work in low resource countries to volunteer their services through organizations such as the CDC Foundation and Doctors without Borders.

"The virus is moving faster than anyone anticipated. We need to move fast," he said.

(Reporting by Julie Steenhuysen; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama, Toni Reinhold)

Plus I just found this:



CDC: Window To Contain Ebola Outbreak Is Closing

By Michell Eloy


The director of the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says the Ebola outbreak is spiraling out of control.

Listen GO TO LINK here to listen to his comments
1:03
As heard on the radio

In his opening statement Tuesday, CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden painted a sobering picture of the Ebola outbreak that’s plaguing West Africa, and he says the window of opportunity to contain it “is closing.”

“Bad as the situation is now, everything I’ve seen suggests that over the next few weeks, it’s likely to get worse,” he said.

Frieden’s recently returned from West Africa, where the disease has now killed more than 1,500 people, according to the World Health Organization.

He described visiting health wards that had run out of beds for patients and health workers treating patients in “roasting” hot hazard suits. Frieden also described meeting a young woman, a woman he called Fatima, who’d contracted Ebola while caring for an infant relative with the virus. While she survived, she also watched her brother die.

He said the continued spread of the deadly disease threatens the stability of the infected countries.

“We expect that there will be more people in countries like Senegal and Nigeria who come in and have the illness. That means as long as Ebola is spreading, all of us need to be concerned,” he said.

Frieden called the outbreak a “global issue,” and urged healthcare workers with experience to help treat and contain the virus. He also urged business communities to step up their response.

Frieden’s speech comes the same day as missionary organization SIM announced a third American citizen, a missionary doctor, has tested positive for the virus.


http://wabe.org/post/cdc-window-contain-ebola-outbreak-closing

 

[Masterchief117]

I find it "interesting" that Dr. Frieden didn't follow his own advice (the same that he gave healthcare workers here in the US) on what kind of PPE to wear when visiting the Ebola ward. I wonder, if he felt safe and secure?

 

[packyderms_wife]

I find it "interesting" that Dr. Frieden didn't follow his own advice (the same that he gave healthcare workers here in the US) on what kind of PPE to wear when visiting the Ebola ward. I wonder, if he felt safe and secure?

Things that make you go hmmmmm...

 

[Tristan]

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-09-latest-ebola-strain-day.html#nRlv

How the latest Ebola strain may escape to kill again another day
by Molly Wexler-Romig
Ebola
Ebola virus virion. Credit: CDC

When Korean Air announced last month it would halt its three weekly flights to Nairobi due to fears of an Ebola pandemic in Liberia and Sierra Leone — both of which are several thousand miles away — critics accused the airline of overreacting. As the pandemic spread — first to Nigeria, and then to Congo — airlines have steadily canceled flights to afflicted nations to limit the risk, despite the protestations of the World Health Organization. But research conducted by the New England Complex Systems Institute in 2006 suggests the airlines’ de facto quarantine is correct.

When it comes to pandemics, it only takes a little global connectedness to trigger a cascade of infections. The outbreak of Ebola raging in West Africa— labeled a Public Health Emergency of International Concern by the World Health Organization—echoes a scenario mapped out by NECSI in 2006. In a computer simulation of pathogens and hosts, long-range routes of transmission — most prominently, international air routes — can allow the deadliest viral strains to outrun their own extinction, and in the process kill vastly more victims than they would have otherwise.

In an evolutionary model accounting for spatial distribution, a pathogen like the Ebola virus can cause its own demise by killing all the hosts in its immediate vicinity. If there is no one left alive to infect, a viral strain will die off. Successful pathogens leave their hosts alive long enough to spread infection. Typically, the most virulent mutations burn themselves out, and a stable balance is achieved between host and pathogen. But avenues of long-range dispersal break this pattern.

Ebola cannot spread through the air; infection can only be transmitted through close contact with bodily fluids. Yet, in the age of global travel, patients in the dormant stage of infection can travel long distances before showing signs of illness, creating epicenters of secondary infection in geographically distant locations. Long-distance travel thus gives an unnatural advantage to the most virulent strains, allowing them access to new hosts even if they wipe themselves out at the local scale.

The most relevant features of NECSI’s model to the current crisis is the critical threshold of connectedness at which a virulent strain can spread out of control. Even if a system seems stable, it may only take a few more routes of travel to trigger secondary outbreaks. “It wouldn’t take much for the current Ebola outbreak to spread to more countries or continents,” says NECSI president Yaneer Bar-Yam. “It only takes one infected individual making it through an airport checkpoint.” There is no cure for the Ebola virus; only early detection and basic medical care can improve a patient’s chance of survival. Thus, awareness of how quickly the scales of transmission can tip is paramount to getting the current outbreak under control and preventing more from starting.

Explore further: Air France suspends Sierra Leone flights over Ebola

More information: The complete article is available online: necsi.edu/news/2014/ebola

Provided by The New England Complex Systems Institute

 

[SheWoff]

The CDC's whole guidelines for Health care workers makes me go hmmmmmmmmm

She

 

[Hfcomms]

I find it "interesting" that Dr. Frieden didn't follow his own advice (the same that he gave healthcare workers here in the US) on what kind of PPE to wear when visiting the Ebola ward. I wonder, if he felt safe and secure?

I'm listening to his news conference right now and just about done with it. He made a couple of statements that are 'interesting' to me.

He said it's possible for Ebola to genetically modify to make it easier to spread. Says the chance is low but not zero.

He's not being totally honest here. It is changing and as a matter of fact there are a couple different variations of the virus in different localities and the outbreaks have nothing to do with each other. My suspicion of the possibility of this actually being an engineered biological outbreak it increasing.

He said several times that 'we know how it's spread and we know how to stop it.' And then he says that it's only 'spread through exposure to dead bodies during the burial practices and exposure to body fluids'

He simply isn't being honest here either. When he goes through the wards in full PPE my question would be...why? As long as he doesn't come into direct contact with their body fluids he should be safe then shouldn't he? And as director of the CDC he is also aware of the two separate Canadian studies that demonstrated Ebola transmission from animals not in direct contact with each other. He also knows the the necropsy on the monkeys in the study showed Ebola virus in the lung tissues indicating virus by inhalation.

He also knows that yes, many of the health care workers in Africa don't have full PPE and at times not even basic supplies so it's obvious how they are being exposed. But what he won't deal with is the fact that western medical professionals such as Dr. Brantly were taking all the precautions and religiously following CDC protocols and yet they came down with the virus themselves. To this day the people that caught it have no idea how they did so.

Funny..

As I was typing out the above listening to the interview he was asked by a reporter about his experience in the Ebola clinic. He said he felt extremely safe. He was in full PPE, covered from head to foot with the booties, respirator, face shield, goggles, ect. And he said when he came out of the room he was told forcefully by his handler how to position his arms and he was sprayed down multiple times with a full bleach solution and the extensive precautions for removing his gear, ect.

Being trained myself with response to a chemical or biological environment I know how in-depth the process is to get in and out of the MOPP equipment and how careful and anal you have to be in following all the procedures exactly to the nth degree or you can infect yourself.

His experience is interesting because the protocols for the U.S. health care workers that his agency has formulated takes none of these steps. Their protocols go no further than recommendations to basic isolation techniques commonly practiced by U.S. hospitals. They don't even recommend respirators or full face masks and/or goggles unless invasive procedures are done to the patient which may result in droplet emissions from the patients.

Not to mention that when the patients is defecating, vomiting, sweating, bleeding out of orifices and drooling that all these emissions contain virus. But apparently the doctors and nurses working on U.S. Ebola patients only have to suit up to the extreme if they are intubating a patient or doing other such procedures.

He is good at promoting calm and as the head of the CDC he has to. But his warnings are not nearly loud enough here. As dire as the situation is he is still downplaying it IMO.

 

[Marthanoir]

Soooo, on a scale of one to ten, 1 being a quick fumble, 5 being a knee trembler behind the disco and ten being a 12 hour tantric session, how Fooked are we ?

 

[Dennis Olson]

Well, as a TOTAL layperson, I would expect outbreaks to come in waves resembling a sine wave. You'll have an outbreak (sine wave goes up) and secondary infections take place, but the incubation period comes in to play (sine wave goes down). However, eave subsequent rise of the sine wave would have a greater amplitude than the one before.

If you think of a seismograph just before, then during, and earthquake, that's kind-of what I mean.

 

[Masterchief117]

Soooo, on a scale of one to ten, 1 being a quick fumble, 5 being a knee trembler behind the disco and ten being a 12 hour tantric session, how Fooked are we ?

We're so Fooked, that we're smoking. That maybe an "11" or "12"??

 

[Marthanoir]

We're so Fooked, that we're smoking. That maybe an "11" or "12"??

Sounds about right with me,

 

[Old Gray Mare]

Anyone else notice? This disease is supposed to be out of control. The probability of being able to contain it are "slipping away" but the official numbers of reported casualties is not changing or not by much. Things that make one go "Hmmmm?". They are still talking about casualty figures of under 2k and have been for some time now.

 

[dogmanan]

Anyone else notice? This disease is supposed to be out of control. The probability of being able to contain it are "slipping away" but the official numbers of reported casualties is not changing or not by much. Things that make one go "Hmmmm?". They are still talking about casualty figures of under 2k and have been for some time now.

They have to get the world to take this new vacs they are talking about some how scare everyone one into taking it..

Lots of money to make vacs-ing the world I would think.

 

[Adino]

we're in deep kimchee when folks who have read the hot zone seem to have a better handle on the ongoing outbreak than the flippin' head of the cdc

so he's stupid or a bald faced liar

which is it doc?

 

[Dennis Olson]

They have to get the world to take this new vacs they are talking about some how scare everyone one into taking it..

Lots of money to make vacs-ing the world I would think.

I think you mean "vaccinating".

 

[Housecarl]

we're in deep kimchee when folks who have read the hot zone seem to have a better handle on the ongoing outbreak than the flippin' head of the cdc

so he's stupid or a bald faced liar

which is it doc?

I vote for "bald faced liar".

There's no way the "rest of the world" is going to sent the trained staff and materials into this outbreak area in the quantities needed to make any impact. There's nothing really already in place in those countries and the little that was is disappearing. Think Triage.

As to the question of this being a bioweapon instead of Mother Nature knocking one out of the park, "who benefits" is the question that has to be answered. If you can get a list and follow it you can prove or disprove that theory. Personally IMHO, just because most people who would do this kind of thing wouldn't be patient enough to let a slow single point contact spread out but would have made sure that the big cities got emptied out by now, I think it is a natural event. That's not to say someone isn't looking at this strain and its possibilities for such use.

 

[Kris Gandillon]

Anyone else notice? This disease is supposed to be out of control. The probability of being able to contain it are "slipping away" but the official numbers of reported casualties is not changing or not by much. Things that make one go "Hmmmm?". They are still talking about casualty figures of under 2k and have been for some time now.

For the first 4 months the rate of Infection was just over 1.8 month over month meaning it was not quite doubling every month. For the month of August the Infection rate jumped to over 2.5 meaning it is now more than doubling each month. Not sure what numbers you are looking at but it is definitely accelerating.

WHO should release final tally for August in a day or two.

 

[Marthanoir]

You'll know we're totally Fooked when Obama names an Ebola Czar

 

[Housecarl]

You'll know we're totally Fooked when Obama names an Ebola Czar

A very good point!

 

[Jake Grey]

We're gonna need a bigger campground.

 

[Trivium Pursuit]

What I'm looking for in these reports is Nigeria. Some bright person here said if it can be contained outside of Nigeria, things may stabilize. But that if it gets into Nigeria, much trouble coming. Of course, there's the really big wild card--the Hajj...

 

[Jake Grey]

Has anyone read "Ebola," by Bill Close?

I am reading "Level 4: Virus Hunters of the CDC" by Joseph McCormic and Susan Fisher-Hoch and in it Dr. McCormic says that even though fictionalized, "Ebola" is "the best researched and thus most accurate account of all the events that took place there in 1976."

I have barely started this book and McCormic was on the front lines back in 1976. I'm starting to see some possible dots concerning a lab he set up in Kedema, Sierra Leone to study Lassa fever after the Ebola outbreak of 1976. I wonder if his lab was the first that led to bioweapons research in that same city today. I'll let you know more of what I can glean from this book as I go along.

I have a copy, but still haven't read "The Hot Zone." On dust jacket of book I'm reading it says McCormic was "Former chief of the CDC's Legendary 'Hot Zone'." Richard Preston, author of "The Hot Zone," gives a nice quote about McCormic on the dust jacket too. Interesting and quite scary reading.

 

[Adino]

I vote for "bald faced liar".

There's no way the "rest of the world" is going to sent the trained staff and materials into this outbreak area in the quantities needed to make any impact. There's nothing really already in place in those countries and the little that was is disappearing. Think Triage.

As to the question of this being a bioweapon instead of Mother Nature knocking one out of the park, "who benefits" is the question that has to be answered. If you can get a list and follow it you can prove or disprove that theory. Personally IMHO, just because most people who would do this kind of thing wouldn't be patient enough to let a slow single point contact spread out but would have made sure that the big cities got emptied out by now, I think it is a natural event. That's not to say someone isn't looking at this strain and its possibilities for such use.

i agree. liar

when i see them shut down air travel and the borders i will know they decided to be serious

grandstanding w/ hat in hand for sacrificial lambs to throw into the hot zones is not taking the right steps for the threat

 

[JDSeese]

You'll know we're totally Fooked when Obama names an Ebola Czar

Funniest thing I've read in a long time... LMFAO

 

[Countrymouse]

i agree. liar

when i see them shut down air travel and the borders i will know they decided to be serious

grandstanding w/ hat in hand for sacrificial lambs to throw into the hot zones is not taking the right steps for the threat

Absolute, total, bald-faced liar.

As those of us who've dealt with the Anthrax debacle at the CDC here in Atlanta know (which I've written about several times).

My post on him from the ebola bi-weekly sums it up afaic:

My personal feelings on Dr. Tom ("We-know-how-to-control-Ebola") Frieden and the latest info out:

Rev. 21:8--

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


Knowing -- from what we have read and shared here --- that as Melodi said above, the political and especially the MEDICAL community has been more concerned about "PC" and "CYA" than about the TRUTH that MIGHT have stopped this thing early on and PROTECTED and saved (what will be potentially) MILLIONS of lives---

it is all I can do not to ask God to damn his sorry soul to hell.

 

[Dex]

"...this one goes to 11.."

They are gaslighting us, never let a good opportunity slip by is the MO. This is their opportunity, the 9/11 that this administration so desperately needs. The head of the CDC most certainly knows that even massive western intervention now will not necessarily be enough to stop a pandemic. He's been "programmed" to lie, probably being told that there is a vaccine so "he shouldn't worry about it."

There was no need for any clandestine conspiracy, all they had to do was nothing. Ebola outbreaks in West Africa are pretty regular, it was only a matter of time before one of the outbreaks went off the reservation. All the west had to do was stand back and watch. Now it will be quite easy for them to "steer" it where they want it to go...they are probably so arrogant and short sighted that they have the audacity to claim that they can stop it whenever they want once they are done with it.

 

[Hfcomms]

"...this one goes to 11.."

So many balloons looking for a pin to impale themselves on. When the inevitable economic/banking collapse happens they have to come up with something plausible to put the blame on. The last thing they want people to understand is that the banksters [including the Fed and Wall Street] and government toadies have stolen us and raped us blind. When they wring out every last drop of wealth from the citizens of this country they don't want the surviving rabble to be blaming them for the collapse.

 

[ittybit]

Doctors Without Boarders has reported that they have (so far) isolated 250 genetic variants of the Ebola virus which are currently infecting people in this outbreak. What this means is that as the virus is infecting more and more people it is also changing its code far more rapidly then prior work would suggest, approximately 10x faster than when it is in the wild animal population. It means that there is a far greater chance of this going truly 'airborne' if is has not already done so. It also means that future vaccines may not be effective, since vaccines for viruses tend to be very specific to one variant and not terribly effective for others.

In a year there may be 2-4 major influenza variants on a global scale. In this case we are talking 250+ variants in less than a year of spread of this. Think "Andromeda Strain" when they are talking about blowing the alien virus up with a nuke and they doc says "if you do that the virus will simply mutate into a thousand different forms...you'll never be rid of it".

This Ebola is global pandemic material. If it ever develops the ability to do what E.Reston did (airborne transmission), then we are talking hundreds of millions of deaths globally. And the only thing that will stop it will be "shelter in place" for 3-6 months. Figure what that will mean for most people in the First World = starvation due to JIT breakdown.

 

[ittybit]

I'm listening to his news conference right now and just about done with it. He made a couple of statements that are 'interesting' to me.

He said it's possible for Ebola to genetically modify to make it easier to spread. Says the chance is low but not zero.

He's not being totally honest here. It is changing and as a matter of fact there are a couple different variations of the virus in different localities and the outbreaks have nothing to do with each other. My suspicion of the possibility of this actually being an engineered biological outbreak it increasing.

He said several times that 'we know how it's spread and we know how to stop it.' And then he says that it's only 'spread through exposure to dead bodies during the burial practices and exposure to body fluids'

He simply isn't being honest here either. When he goes through the wards in full PPE my question would be...why? As long as he doesn't come into direct contact with their body fluids he should be safe then shouldn't he? And as director of the CDC he is also aware of the two separate Canadian studies that demonstrated Ebola transmission from animals not in direct contact with each other. He also knows the the necropsy on the monkeys in the study showed Ebola virus in the lung tissues indicating virus by inhalation.

He also knows that yes, many of the health care workers in Africa don't have full PPE and at times not even basic supplies so it's obvious how they are being exposed. But what he won't deal with is the fact that western medical professionals such as Dr. Brantly were taking all the precautions and religiously following CDC protocols and yet they came down with the virus themselves. To this day the people that caught it have no idea how they did so.

Funny..

As I was typing out the above listening to the interview he was asked by a reporter about his experience in the Ebola clinic. He said he felt extremely safe. He was in full PPE, covered from head to foot with the booties, respirator, face shield, goggles, ect. And he said when he came out of the room he was told forcefully by his handler how to position his arms and he was sprayed down multiple times with a full bleach solution and the extensive precautions for removing his gear, ect.

Being trained myself with response to a chemical or biological environment I know how in-depth the process is to get in and out of the MOPP equipment and how careful and anal you have to be in following all the procedures exactly to the nth degree or you can infect yourself.

His experience is interesting because the protocols for the U.S. health care workers that his agency has formulated takes none of these steps. Their protocols go no further than recommendations to basic isolation techniques commonly practiced by U.S. hospitals. They don't even recommend respirators or full face masks and/or goggles unless invasive procedures are done to the patient which may result in droplet emissions from the patients.

Not to mention that when the patients is defecating, vomiting, sweating, bleeding out of orifices and drooling that all these emissions contain virus. But apparently the doctors and nurses working on U.S. Ebola patients only have to suit up to the extreme if they are intubating a patient or doing other such procedures.

He is good at promoting calm and as the head of the CDC he has to. But his warnings are not nearly loud enough here. As dire as the situation is he is still downplaying it IMO.

This is a level 4 bio hazard virus. Level 3 protocols and equipment will not suffice. And its not just the protocols, as you have outlined, it is doing perfect practice.

And he is totally not being honest or is definitely mis-informed as this virus is mutating at an astonishing speed.

 

[Ben Sunday]

You'll know we're totally Fooked when Obama names an Ebola Czar

An excellent point as indicated by others. Might also be the red flag (bad juju) warning that so many folks are trying to extract from the Ebola reporting.

 

[Dennis Olson]

If it ever develops the ability to do what E.Reston did (airborne transmission)....


It already has. They just haven't admitted it. What makes me say that? Here:

Latest US doc to get Ebola skipped protective gear in 100-degree heat, says colleague

By Paul Tilsley
Published September 03, 2014
FoxNews.com
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JOHANNESBURG, South Africa – The latest U.S. doctor to contract Ebola in Africa was working with outpatients in 100-degree temperatures that made it difficult to wear protective gear when he was exposed to an obstetrics patient stricken with the deadly disease, said another American physician who worked in the same hospital.

The unidentified doctor was working in the obstetrics unit of the massive Elwa Hospital in the Liberian capital of Monrovia, far from the Ebola unit, said Dr. Jeff Deal, a South Carolina doctor who traveled to Liberia to help battle the crisis engulfing much of Africa. Doctors and other health care workers often do not wear protective gear in the general part of the hospital, most of which has no air conditioning. With high temperatures compounded by equatorial humidity, many doctors and healthcare workers outside of the Ebola unit skip protective gear.

"I was pretty shocked when I heard," Deal said. "At first I thought should I isolate myself, but now I have been a little comforted that I have been wearing protective clothing at all times, and no one who has followed the proper protocols has fallen sick.”

Although the hospital's Ebola Treatment Unit is sanitized constantly, including through the use of an ultraviolet ray-emitting machine Deal arranged for, outpatients who see workers in other parts of the facility, who have not been diagnosed and may be in denial about their symptoms— often come in contact with unprotected staff, Deal said.

Nurses at the hospital went on strike Monday, in part for better pay due to hazardous conditions, but also for access to more complete protective gear.

In the latest case, the infected doctor was treating a patient for an obstetric condition and told staff the woman was "highly suspicious" and displaying Ebola symptoms.

Doctors Without Borders, the medical charity that runs the Ebola unit, use three-layered, disposable uniforms that include a hood, boots, apron, bib, gloves and goggles. Deal said working in the suits is exhausting, and doctors can last little more than 3-4 hours in them. Deal said it takes more than 30 minutes to get out of the suit, and a bleach solution must be applied on each newly-exposed layer.

The infected doctor, who is a missionary with SIM USA, a faith-based charity headquartered in Charlotte, N.C., isolated himself in the hospital's Ebola unit immediately after experiencing symptoms and is doing well, according to officials with SIM, which originally stood for Sudan Interior Mission when it was founded in 1893.

"My heart was deeply saddened, but my faith was not shaken, when I learned another of our missionary doctors contracted Ebola," said Bruce Johnson, president of SIM USA. "As a global mission, we are surrounding our missionary with prayer, as well as our Liberian SIM/ELWA colleagues, who continue fighting the Ebola epidemic in Liberia. We have gifted Liberian doctors, medical staff and support staff who are carrying on the fight."

Deal said the doctor will be treated with a balance of electrolytes and intravenous nutrition and likely has the same survival outlook as those who have been brought back to the U.S. for treatment. He said the high mortality rate for Africans is likely due to delays in getting treatment and the fact that patients may have other diseases, including malaria or dengue fever.

Deal said the infected doctor will likely be brought back to the U.S. in the event his condition worsens.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/...degree-heat-says-colleague/?intcmp=latestnews

 

[Adino]

either ebola zaire, which is deadly to humans but hadn't been airborne, or ebola reston which was airborne but not fatal to humans, could've have been the progenitor to what is running rampant

both are genetically so close to one another its hard to tell them apart

either could mutate to be both deadly to humans and airborne

and if that is truly what we are dealing w/, and they have to know by now it is Biblical in proportions

 

[oops]

I'll believe they're serious about containing this monster when I see air traffic shut down to those areas...for the love of pete...they still have KIDS running in and out of there and then traveling back to their hs/colleges...S N O R T!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ainitfunny]

On Tuesday, a second U.S. doctor contracted the virus while working with obstetrics patients at a missionary hospital in Monrovia, Liberia, according to the church-affiliated organization SIM USA.

The Charlotte, North Carolina-based group did not identify the physician but said he was not treating Ebola patients and that he had isolated himself immediately when symptoms began.

The "FATAL FLAW" IN THEIR DISEASE MANAGEMENT METHODOLOGY is the assumption that it is the actions of the authorities and the medical community, NOT THE ORDINARY CITIZENS ACTIONS that will eradicate this deadly plague upon the world.

THEY ARE FOOLISHLY, TRAGICALLY WRONG!!

It is ONLY WHEN THE COMMON PEOPLE ARE ENLISTED IN THE FIGHT, GIVEN THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, that they are armed and empowered to properly respond to whatever situation threatens them!!

TELL THEM THAT EBOLA IS AIRBORNE and they will further distance themselves from each other and take greater care to avoid not only (WET) "body fluids" as they have already been cautioned, but wet or dry contaminated things Ebola patients have touched! The African people have been mis-informed or misunderstood that Ebola is transmitted THROUGH WET (body FLUIDS) THINGS ONLY, THEREFORE A DRY Ebola contaminated BLANKET in their understanding is not infectious!

Tell them that it can be airborne and they will be seeking to have their sick Ebola family members removed for professional treatment ASAP rather than trying to treat them at home and only calling when they die, to have the dead body removed!!

As Ebola infected PATIENTS they will better understand why you should not travel, and how traveling can spread the disease, if they know it is airborne, rather than their thinking "I will just avoid touching others in my travel"!

 

[bw]

It is ONLY WHEN THE COMMON PEOPLE ARE ENLISTED IN THE FIGHT, GIVEN THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, that they are armed and empowered to properly respond to whatever situation threatens them!!

The common people think that Ebola doesn't exist, that it's all a hoax their governments are using to wheedle aid money out of wealthy nations. They think hospitals are where you get sick and governments are scams. They aren't real susceptible to enlisting.

 

[Heliobas Disciple]

http://thechronicleherald.ca/world/...is-a-threat-to-all-humanity-us-officials-warn
(fair use applies)

Ebola ‘a virus that is a threat to all humanity,’ U.S. officials warn
The Associated Press
Published September 3, 2014 - 12:47pm
Last Updated September 3, 2014 - 1:08pm

DAKAR, Senegal — Ebola represents a threat to all humanity and an outbreak of the virus in five West African countries will likely spread to more, American officials warned Wednesday.

“This is not an African disease. This is a virus that is a threat to all humanity,” Gayle Smith, special assistant to President Barack Obama and senior director at the National Security Council, told reporters during a telephone briefing.

About half of the 3,000 people sickened have died in the current Ebola outbreak, which has hit Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria and Senegal.

The disease is spreading faster than health workers can keep up with it, said Tom Kenyon, of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who recently visited the affected region and who also spoke in the briefing.

But Kenyon said that the world has the tools to stop the outbreak; they just have to be put in place. He said more treatment centres are currently being opened and that he is about to start negotiations with the African Union to send more health workers.

“I think we’re confident if we put these treatment units up, the health workers will come, but of course they have to be adequately trained and supervised and equipped with personal protective equipment,” he said.

Many on the ground have said there aren’t enough protective suits for health workers, who have become infected in large numbers in this outbreak. The U.S. government is “ramping up significantly” donations of protective gear, said Smith, the Obama adviser.

Kenyon said the key to solving the outbreak will be the effective implementation of measures used in all previous outbreaks: isolating and treating the sick, monitoring their contacts for signs of disease and safely burying the dead. He said experimental vaccines and treatments would not be available in time to make a difference.

One such experimental drug is ZMapp, which has been given to seven people so far in this outbreak. The company has said that all of its doses are now exhausted, and it will be months before more can be made.

It is also still not clear if the drug is effective, since human trials have not yet been carried out. Some of the people who received ZMapp died, while some survived.

William Pooley, a British nurse who contracted Ebola while working in Sierra Leone, was among those who received the drug. He was discharged from a London hospital on Wednesday after making a full recovery.

He said his superior care was largely responsible for his survival.

“I was very lucky in several ways: Firstly in the standard of care that I received, which is a world apart from what people are receiving in West Africa, despite various organizations’ best efforts,” Pooley told reporters. “The other difference is that my symptoms never progressed to the worst stage of the disease.”

Pooley, 29, was flown back to Britain on Aug. 24 and was cared for in a special isolation unit at the Royal Free Hospital.

 

[packyderms_wife]

What I'm looking for in these reports is Nigeria. Some bright person here said if it can be contained outside of Nigeria, things may stabilize. But that if it gets into Nigeria, much trouble coming. Of course, there's the really big wild card--the Hajj...

It's already IN Nigeria thanks to the good doctor who contracted ebola, got on a plane and flew back to Nigeria all while in the infectious state.

The Hajj doesn't occur in Nigeria, why would this be problematic?

 

[bw]

The Hajj doesn't occur in Nigeria, why would this be problematic?

People from Nigeria go to the Hajj, and Nigeria hasn't as yet been excluded from the Hajj as SL and Liberia, etc. have.

 

[ittybit]

If it ever develops the ability to do what E.Reston did (airborne transmission)....
It already has. They just haven't admitted it. What makes me say that? Here:

My darker imagination would agree with you. One tell tail would be a notable surge in numbers M-o-M way beyond 2.5 . However, the real number so far are about 1/4 of what the reported numbers are, so its very difficult to have confidence in numbers which surprise. Another tell tale would be to start seeing E. cases spontaneously appearing in multiple international urban centers served by international air traffic, and with no other way of transmission. 16 hours on a flight with one infect person coughing on occassion would infect the entire plane.

 

[ittybit]

either ebola zaire, which is deadly to humans but hadn't been airborne, or ebola reston which was airborne but not fatal to humans, could've have been the progenitor to what is running rampant

both are genetically so close to one another its hard to tell them apart

either could mutate to be both deadly to humans and airborne

and if that is truly what we are dealing w/, and they have to know by now it is Biblical in proportions

Fact is that a very trivial genetic change to E. Zaire, or whatever sub/sub variant of EZ, would make it airborne as we see it's already been accomplished by this virus in the animal population within Lab animals in confinement. So, the potential is very, very high as it has already occurred in reality.

What is troubling is that the density of human population, the explosive numbers of infected people plus the demonstrated precocious genetic recombinations that are occurring. One could suggest that when 10,000 have the virus and 250 mutations occur that when you have 100,000 people infected there might also be up to 2,500 mutational variations.

fooking fooked, IMO.