CRISIS Ebola: National Guard commandeering people

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Bicycle Junkie

Resident dissident and troll
A colleague’s wife has done DNA work in the past for the Center for Disease Control. She doesn’t work there anymore. This morning National Guard soldiers and someone from the government showed up at their doorstep. They wanted to commandeer her to go work in Dallas on the Ebola outbreak. My colleague managed to stop the commandeering by contacting his wife’s doctor and having the doctor say she is unable to travel and work away from home. Without the medical excuse they were actually going to force her to go to Dallas. My colleague says the Ebola problem is much worse than they are telling us.
 
Hacker

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
It sounds to me like she's a researcher, not a clinician. This implies (to me, at least) that they're (CDC, .gov, etc) grasping at straws and are in panic mode.
 
Chili

Chili

Contributing Member
wow! Put away your end of the world fiction books folks. The story is unfolding right before your eyes.
 
Mongo

Mongo

Veteran Member
Bike Junkie - I have no reason to doubt your veracity...
But just one question: How do you KNOW this happened? FOAF? or did your colleague tell you himself?
 
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Ledel

Senior Member
Bicycle Junkie said:
A colleague’s wife has done DNA work in the past for the Center for Disease Control. She doesn’t work there anymore. This morning National Guard soldiers and someone from the government showed up at their doorstep. They wanted to commandeer her to go work in Dallas on the Ebola outbreak. My colleague managed to stop the commandeering by contacting his wife’s doctor and having the doctor say she is unable to travel and work away from home. Without the medical excuse they were actually going to force her to go to Dallas. My colleague says the Ebola problem is much worse than they are telling us.
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Was she former military? reserve? Not sure if she could actually be cammandeered
 
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the watcher

the watcher

Inactive
Yes she can, the NDAA opened this door, to comandeer personal resources, from farms, manufactorers, etc, INCLUDING employees. Don't believe me, go read it.

Eta thank you OP, this alarming at best. Tally is up to 100 exposed. Plane went on to LA after departure of ebola patient. Backtracking steps, patient went to conveniance store nearby and vomitted outside. This is a potential firestorm smoldering in a large metro area.
 
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Adino

paradigm shaper
usamriid has started recruiting assets

if they can replace her they won't be back

but there are executive orders that do allow for 'recruitment' by hook or crook
 
Dex

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
Yeah, we are going to need some more input BJ. My wife is a certified phlebotomist in other words a card carrying vampire. If the NG started doing this sort of thing we would be quite concerned that they would come for her because she is on the state registry. She doesn't do it for a living but her cert is current. If it goes big they will need people to draw blood for test purposes and might very well "draft" people which we would like to avoid. She would qualify for a medical excuse though.

I was posting as you updated...thanks.
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
1) It's "Capt TRIPS" not "Trix".

2) This has been in LAW for over 10 years, NOT NDAA, but the Medical Skills Draft. It's been on the books for longer than that, as 10 yrs ago or so they rephrased it a small amount.
NOT an Eo either.

Google Medical and Special Skills Draft. Part of the Draft Law on the books.
 
CGTech

CGTech

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just out of curiosity, and keep in mind I don't know your laws down there, what would happen if she flat out refused to go with them? Maybe she/they should consider not even answering the door anymore. If they can't find her, they can't forcibly recruit her...
 
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Human test subject #58652
tanstaafl said:
So I take it everyone is assuming that this one data point implies many others?
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To me Yes.
If they are invoking this measure for such a small group of suspected individuals it tells me that they are gearing up for something bigger.
 
the watcher

the watcher

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Lol it was Trips. I never understood why that name, maybe you trip over you're feet to get to the toilet??

Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness

EXECUTIVE ORDER

NATIONAL DEFENSE RESOURCES PREPAREDNESS
ART VI - LABOR REQUIREMENTS

Sec. 601. Secretary of Labor. (a) The Secretary of Labor, in coordination with the Secretary of Defense and the heads of other agencies, as deemed appropriate by the Secretary of Labor, shall:

(1) collect and maintain data necessary to make a continuing appraisal of the Nation's workforce needs for purposes of national defense;

(2) upon request by the Director of Selective Service, and in coordination with the Secretary of Defense, assist the Director of Selective Service in development of policies regulating the induction and deferment of persons for duty in the armed services;

(3) upon request from the head of an agency with authority under this order, consult with that agency with respect to: (i) the effect of contemplated actions on labor demand and utilization; (ii) the relation of labor demand to materials and facilities requirements; and (iii) such other matters as will assist in making the exercise of priority and allocations functions consistent with effective utilization and distribution of labor;

(4) upon request from the head of an agency with authority under this order: (i) formulate plans, programs, and policies for meeting the labor requirements of actions to be taken for national defense purposes; and (ii) estimate training needs to help address national defense requirements and promote necessary and appropriate training programs; and

(5) develop and implement an effective labor management relations policy to support the activities and programs under this order, with the cooperation of other agencies as deemed appropriate by the Secretary of Labor, including the National Labor Relations Board, the Federal Labor Relations Authority, the National Mediation Board, and the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service.

(b) All agencies shall cooperate with the Secretary of Labor, upon request, for the purposes of this section, to the extent permitted by law.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...order-national-defense-resources-preparedness
 
NBCsurvivor

NBCsurvivor

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Other forums are posting similar intel/info on the situation from members in the "field". It's not just here. Personally I'll take as much info as possible and make my own decisions on personal action based on ALL available intel.
 
rummer

rummer

Veteran Member
CGTech said:
Just out of curiosity, and keep in mind I don't know your laws down there, what would happen if she flat out refused to go with them? Maybe she/they should consider not even answering the door anymore. If they can't find her, they can't forcibly recruit her...
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Yes they can... as a medical person this was one of my fears, being forced.
 
Mongo

Mongo

Veteran Member
Bicycle Junkie said:
He told my wife and she told me. I have known this colleague for 15 years and his veracity is impeccable.
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Well then perhaps your wife missed something in translation because as dramatic as that sounds, "Nat Guard showing up at the door" is just not the way this would be handled.
Just sayin'
 
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MountainBiker

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night driver said:
1) It's "Capt TRIPS" not "Trix".

2) This has been in LAW for over 10 years, NOT NDAA, but the Medical Skills Draft. It's been on the books for longer than that, as 10 yrs ago or so they rephrased it a small amount.
NOT an Eo either.

Google Medical and Special Skills Draft. Part of the Draft Law on the books.
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Thanks for the clarification. Does this law require some sort of emergency declaration in order to implement it?
 
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