DEEP STATE Dr Shiva exposes MANY deep staters

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I can't post a link because Dr Shiva is interviewed by a deplorable proscribed character. (I have no idea why.)

But if you go to Bitchute, you will find him with a recent interview about an hour long. That full hour is packed with enlightening stuff. Here are some examples. The deep staters- which he calls "the swarm" use a technique developed by the CIA and seen as far back as the JFK assassination.... "delayed hang-outs".... where the truth is very partially released protecting the guilty and delaying the real uncovering of the full real truth. Truth delayed is truth nullified.

Someone who is a great example of this is Tucker Carlson. Seems like a great patriot fighting the evil ones, right? Some of you may remember he was a Bill Clinton boot-licker in the 90s, bow tie and everything liberal in his activities. Can people change? Yes, but they can also do a delayed hang-out.... that is, suppressing the truth until it is too late. He did that with the election frauds and the Jan 6 events.

Donald J Trump.... sounds great at times, but did everything in a way that allowed the swarm to nullify future efforts. He played his role perfectly keeping us suckered until it was too late. He he is still working it.

Anyway, Shiva does a good job of exposing things. Must watch!
 
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Donald J Trump.... sounds great at times, but did everything in a way that allowed the swarm to nullify future efforts. He played his role perfectly keeping us suckered until it was too late. He he is still working it.
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Bullshit. If that were true he wouldn’t generate the level of insensate hysteria that he does, from liberals and conservative alike, as well as the MSM.
 
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Dennis Olson said:
Bullshit. If that were true he wouldn’t generate the level of insensate hysteria that he does, from liberals and conservative alike, as well as the MSM.
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Hey- I get it! I want Trump to be true too. But watch here how he handles his interview with Megyn Kelly, who trumpeted the vaxx, took it, and now is severely damaged..

RT 54:14 but for the Trump slices, start at 5:00-
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But also watch that Shiva interview because it explains what we are seeing.
 
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I have a question for you. Have you heard the term "delayed hang-out" before like a day or two ago? because I'm suddenly seeing it everywhere I look. When I see new language being used heavily all of a sudden I consider that a big red flag that someone is trying to manipulate me into buying into their narrative.

Do I fully trust tucker? No! but I'm not going to get in his way when he takes a swipe at people that need to get swiped at.

I'm not sure anyone is on my side but I definitely don't trust whoever is pushing this delayed hang-out talking point either.
 
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Starrkopf said:
I have a question for you. Have you heard the term "delayed hang-out" before like a day or two ago? because I'm suddenly seeing it everywhere I look. When I see new language being used heavily all of a sudden I consider that a big red flag that someone is trying to manipulate me into buying into their narrative.

Do I fully trust tucker? No! but I'm not going to get in his way when he takes a swipe at people that need to get swiped at.

I'm not sure anyone is on my side but I definitely don't trust whoever is pushing this delayed hang-out talking point either.
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You obviously have not watched the Dr Shiva video interview. Try it. Them come back with your questions.
 
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Instead of griping, do your due diligence. I gave you an abbreviated definition of this CIA technique, pointed you in the direction to hear the truth because I am not allowed to post the link here, and without bothering, you presumed I am pushing the use of the technique on you!! I can't spoon feed you.
 
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My take on Shiva:

He is not a christian, which is quite clear. Of course, neither is anyone in high govt.

I don't like his use of profanity in some of his interviews, but that doesn't discredit what he is revealing.
(He seems to have a lot of anger for the ones trying to destroy us, which is understandable, but I still don't condone it.)

It could be a risk to support him, but at this point in time and history, supporting anyone is questionable. (This is the land of confusion)

However, it's refreshing to see someone call out the hypocrisy of those in media and govt. that have a heavy influence on our daily lives.

So my opinion is that Shiva would be a better candidate than anyone else that's running for president.

Why? Because he doesn't want to kill us or participate in our continued and future slavery, and seems to want to help us.

Still, I'm highly cautious of anyone at this point and time.
 
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Warning: some profanity:

CISA, passed unanimously in 2018, and signed by trump, is why congress is the enemy of the american people.

It is against the 1st amendment and thats unconstitutional.

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rob0126 said:
Warning: some profanity:

CISA, passed unanimously in 2018, and signed by trump, is why congress is the enemy of the american people.

It is against the 1st amendment and thats unconstitutional.

RT 3:09:11
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Dr.SHIVA™ LIVE - How Congress Is Controlled By These Two Forces.

In this interview, Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, Inventor of Email, Scientist, Engineer and Candidate for President, speaks to Sneako and explains how the United States Congress is controlled by two si
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Watching now.

The 'Interviewer' seems to be having a great deal of trouble keeping up. So many in that age group seem to have a similar issue...
 
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What he reveals is going to be hard for many to hear.

Btw, I don't recommend any young children hear this interview.
 
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Something I want to make clear in regards to Dr. Shiva:

Shiva believes that the elite are connected telepathically(calls them the Swarm), hence how they all coordinate their evil deeds on the people of the world.

I believe its actually satan and his devils that influence and guide them, which makes for a spiritually coordinated attack vector.

Shiva seems to be a highly intelligent person but obviously spiritually blind.

However, he doesn't want to harm or kill us all, which is why I would support his cause of life and health, until I see different.

I consider him my neighbor that just wants the psychopaths to leave us all alone.

So I refuse to accept the daily clown show anymore.

As Ive said before, focus on local community. Then you might be able to handle things better when it goes regional, then national.
 
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I know its going to be hard for a lot of folks to digest the info Shiva has presented.
Ive heard enough of his interviews to conclude that we all have been played.

That includes the Not So Obvious Establishment like alex jones, mike adams, trump, joe rogan, kennedy,tucker carlson, etc.

Shiva seems to be the only voice wanting to help americans and not profit off our murder(the WEF plan).

The only issue I have is with Shiva's use of profanity but thats because Im a christian and believe its wrong.

Maybe he will take heed to my advice or not.

Either way, he has exposed the NCOE's for who they are (based on biblical principals whether he realizes it or not.) and its high time we as americans stop giving place to them all.

What to do?

Stop falling for the lies and start building local community.

Because whether its a grid down, nuke strike, foreign invasion, or more of bidens side of the same bird, we have to divorce ourselves from their system, if we are to survive as a nation.
 
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I emailed Dr Shiva. How he responds will tell me everything I need to know.
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An update to this:

I still havent had a response to my email after the initial confirmation that it was received by his staff.

Also, I joined up on his website for the 'free' membership, to see if I could learn his 'system", and found out that you must upgrade to 'warrior' status to take the courses. The warrior status costs $100.00.
So, I asked his staff why taking the course was not free thru the free membership, I get no reply yet.

Heres the thing, he has said many times in his interviews that people can take the course for free, but this is a contradiction to me.

So, until he replies with an answer to this, I can not support him or his cause because of inconsistency.

And the foul language is also another reason to not support him.

Im a big boy and can get thru profanity videos to get some answers but as a christian I can not support him because of it.

Now, if in the future, he takes heed and stops the foul language and gives a proper anwser to why you must pay $100.00 to take his supposedly free course(he offers it for free multiple times in his videos), then I might consider different.

Why do I take this stance?

Because If a man cant keep his anger in check, how is he going to lead a nation with a cool head?

The bible tells me that if a man cant control his spirit, that he is not fit to lead or rule a nation of peace.

Proverbs 16:32, "He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city."

But if you want a hothead to lead or rule, then nothing good will come of it.

Ok, I say all this because I must make my stance clear:
Shiva reveals, thru his court cases and dealings with officials, that they all are scumbags and dont deserve the time of day from us americans, because they are frauds and are actively complicit in the destruction of this nation.

By this, I commend Shiva for as a researcher and scientist, but as for being presidential material, I dont see it now.

So, I will continue this thread as I discover more things about the D.C.circus and those who are the Not So Obvious Establishment, that are deceiving the population.

I will continue to warn about excessive profanity in Shivas interviews, because I do not condone it.

But several of you are mature adults that can handle it without it influencing you to do something stupid. So this thread is for those who want to know.

Because, if we are to avoid the snares of the monsters running this nation, we need to know who the Not So Obvious Traitors are.

And that list is apparently long.
 
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rob0126 said:
An update to this:

I still havent had a response to my email after the initial confirmation that it was received by his staff.

Also, I joined up on his website for the 'free' membership, to see if I could learn his 'system", and found out that you must upgrade to 'warrior' status to take the courses. The warrior status costs $100.00.
So, I asked his staff why taking the course was not free thru the free membership, I get no reply yet.

Heres the thing, he has said many times in his interviews that people can take the course for free, but this is a contradiction to me.

So, until he replies with an answer to this, I can not support him or his cause because of inconsistency.

And the foul language is also another reason to not support him.

Im a big boy and can get thru profanity videos to get some answers but as a christian I can not support him because of it.

Now, if in the future, he takes heed and stops the foul language and gives a proper anwser to why you must pay $100.00 to take his supposedly free course(he offers it for free multiple times in his videos), then I might consider different.

Why do I take this stance?

Because If a man cant keep his anger in check, how is he going to lead a nation with a cool head?

The bible tells me that if a man cant control his spirit, that he is not fit to lead or rule a nation of peace.

Proverbs 16:32, "He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city."

But if you want a hothead to lead or rule, then nothing good will come of it.

Ok, I say all this because I must make my stance clear:
Shiva reveals, thru his court cases and dealings with officials, that they all are scumbags and dont deserve the time of day from us americans, because they are frauds and are actively complicit in the destruction of this nation.

By this, I commend Shiva for as a researcher and scientist, but as for being presidential material, I dont see it now.

So, I will continue this thread as I discover more things about the D.C.circus and those who are the Not So Obvious Establishment, that are deceiving the population.

I will continue to warn about excessive profanity in Shivas interviews, because I do not condone it.

But several of you are mature adults that can handle it without it influencing you to do something stupid. So this thread is for those who want to know.

Because, if we are to avoid the snares of the monsters running this nation, we need to know who the Not So Obvious Traitors are.

And that list is apparently long.
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>insert facepalm here>

"And the foul language is also another reason to not support him.
Im a big boy and can get thru profanity videos to get some answers but as a christian I can not support him because of it."

Because he cusses!? You do know that's intentional based on his perceived audience right?

BTW, your logic is a mirror of the anti-Trump people who don't like him because of his cocky NYC attitude
 
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glennb6 said:
>insert facepalm here>

"And the foul language is also another reason to not support him.
Im a big boy and can get thru profanity videos to get some answers but as a christian I can not support him because of it."

Because he cusses!? You do know that's intentional based on his perceived audience right?

BTW, your logic is a mirror of the anti-Trump people who don't like him because of his cocky NYC attitude
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I dont care who his perceived audience is, if you cant speak to the public without cursing(excessive even), you dont get my christian support.
I know we have to deal with govt leaders that are not christian, but this is a fundamental principle of life, that if you cant hold your tongue, how are you going to lead a nation in peace?

The same goes for trump who has been nothing but a liar, which is the weightier matter.

Warning, excessive profanity.

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Shiva posts clips of trump and how he admits that he suckered americans.

For instance, lock her up, but then after the campaign, admits it was just to get elected. What bothers me is that people accept that.

Or telling people that he will be with them on Jan 6th, then bails out and leaves them all virtually hanging at the capitol?

Or signing into law CISA, with unanimous support from congress, that goes against the 1st amendment?

Thats just some of the things brought to attention by shiva.

The question is, how many people will keep accepting trump, or any of the establishment, as their hero?
 
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rob0126 said:
I dont care who his perceived audience is, if you cant speak to the public without cursing(excessive even), you dont get my christian support.
I know we have to deal with govt leaders that are not christian, but this is a fundamental principle of life, that if you cant hold your tongue, how are you going to lead a nation in peace?

The same goes for trump who has been nothing but a liar, which is the weightier matter.

Warning, excessive profanity.

RT 52:55
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Dr.SHIVA™ OPEN HOUSE – This Is How Trump Fooled You. Will You Be Fooled Again?

In this Open House, Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, Inventor of Email, Scientist, Engineer and Candidate for President, explained how Trump fooled you in 2020, and why you need to understand the Not-So-O
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Shiva posts clips of trump and how he admits that he suckered americans.

For instance, lock her up, but then after the campaign, admits it was just to get elected. What bothers me is that people accept that.

Or telling people that he will be with them on Jan 6th, then bails out and leaves them all virtually hanging at the capitol?

Or signing into law CISA, with unanimous support from congress, that goes against the 1st amendment?

Thats just some of the things brought to attention by shiva.

The question is, how many people will keep accepting trump, or any of the establishment, as their hero?
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all good points, but are you going to ignore those points because Shiva swears a bit?
 
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glennb6 said:
>insert facepalm here>

"And the foul language is also another reason to not support him.
Im a big boy and can get thru profanity videos to get some answers but as a christian I can not support him because of it."

Because he cusses!? You do know that's intentional based on his perceived audience right?

BTW, your logic is a mirror of the anti-Trump people who don't like him because of his cocky NYC attitude
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rob is exactly right. There is no need to use coarse language constantly on a presidential platform. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. He has some corrupting problem in his character. That can be remedied and is not as bad as other things.

As for your comment on anti-Trump people, you miss the points. Trump is a liar. That is revealing a severe darkness in him. He is also a narcissist. Tell me why he repeatedly tells the stories of the scorpion and the snake. Is he not the scorpion and the snake? Trump is sold out to the jews which is a very deadly condition. I will not accept 10 wonderful things from Trump only to be snake-bitten.
 
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glennb6 said:
all good points, but are you going to ignore those points because Shiva swears a bit?
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No. I thought I made it clear that just because he curses, it doesn't make his findings any less true.
(truth is still truth)
But the way you communicate them does matter. I told him if he wants to reach the christian community, to stop cursing. We will see going forward.
 
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LightEcho said:
rob is exactly right. There is no need to use coarse language constantly on a presidential platform. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. He has some corrupting problem in his character. That can be remedied and is not as bad as other things.

As for your comment on anti-Trump people, you miss the points. Trump is a liar. That is revealing a severe darkness in him. He is also a narcissist. Tell me why he repeatedly tells the stories of the scorpion and the snake. Is he not the scorpion and the snake? Trump is sold out to the jews which is a very deadly condition. I will not accept 10 wonderful things from Trump only to be snake-bitten.
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DJT needs to be held to task on a number if issues and past performance. I've said that on this forum repeatedly. My point was about Rob saying he wouldn't support Shiva because he curses. IMO, that's a trivial issue and certainly not one to base a voting decision on given the gravity of all the other far more important issues.
And as example I said that the anti-Trump people, typically the liberal left, when asked why they don't like Trump or what's wrong with his policies, they respond that they don't like his attitude, and he's a racist. But but but what policies don't they like about Trump? Oh, he's rude and abrasive.
Totally illogical responses to questions seeking fact based answers. So how is that different than ignoring issues over spicy language (in the case of Shiva)? Might as well say he didn't like (whatever Indian religion Shiva is) so will not vote for him, or, didn't like the color of his ties.

Again, Trump really need to be asked hard questions including the ones you brought up, and not to mention, Shiva need hard questions too. Such as he the hell does he expect to overcome apparently impossibly low polling numbers and general public awareness? How does he think he'd be able to do any better than Trump at draining the swamp when he alienates ALL politicians (rightfully so, but with consequences).
 
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You Trump naysayers can't see that nobody is perfect. You insist that PDJT be perfect "or else".

You ignore how much he accomplished while doing battle with an entire commie-committed government - and with very little support from his own party.

God used many far from perfect people in the Bible. He's doing it now too.

But it's not "good enough" for you....
 
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bbbuddy said:
You Trump naysayers can't see that nobody is perfect. You insist that PDJT be perfect "or else".

You ignore how much he accomplished while doing battle with an entire commie-committed government - and with very little support from his own party.

God used many far from perfect people in the Bible. He's doing it now too.

But it's not "good enough" for you....
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Nobody. Absolutely nobody is demanding that Trump or anyone else be perfect.

BUT, for the office of president, commander-in-chief of the military, and chief executive of the nation, the standard must be high. We cannot have someone who is more dedicated to his own wealth or seeking to gain power for personal gain. We cannot have someone who disrespects the constitutionally protected rights of the people. We cannot have someone immoral since an immoral person cannot and will not direct the nation on a moral path. We cannot have a liar because nothing that he says can be trusted either for internal policies or international relations. We cannot have a narcissist or sociopath as an unstable man cannot lead in a steady and well-chosen direction. We cannot have a traitor who vows allegiance to other nations or peoples or allows them to gain control of our government / industries / institutions.

That is not demanding perfection. That is requiring a true patriot and upright man. But such a man cannot be had in America or any other nation in this world today. Destruction is determined for all because we do not deserve righteous leaders. Just as this world was cursed to make it a fit habitation for fallen man, so are our governments left unprotected to suit our conditions.
 
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I'll take PDJT over ANYONE "waiting in the wings" to at least make an attempt to save our country from the communists, and I don't care what his personal foibles and sins are.

Presidents are politicians, not priests.
While you wait for someone "up to your standards" you give the country over to your enemies.

Claiming he disrespects the rights of the people? Claiming he's a traitor? Where have you been living?

It sounds like you have CNN in an earworm...

But you can "hold your head high" while you proudly march into the cattle car because you didn't vote for a sinner.
 
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