WTF?!? Did he just say "It "Looks" Like Heart Worms For People"? ****EDIT for clarification in OP/NOT IMPLYING IT WAS WORMS.

PrairieMoon

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Interesting....

Tuesday, I took care of a 28 yr old male (in the ER) who had developed heart failure. His EF was less than 20%; troponin, BMP, d-dimer were all significantly elevated. He was short of breath (which is what brought him in). ECHO showed right sided failure with a fibrous clot in one of the ventricles.

He has done meth in the past, which could be the cause. But then he told me he had 2 moderna jabs in October.
Untreated myo/pericarditis?? Enough to make ya go hmmmm.... :confused:
 

psychgirl

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Interesting....

Tuesday, I took care of a 28 yr old male (in the ER) who had developed heart failure. His EF was less than 20%; troponin, BMP, d-dimer were all significantly elevated. He was short of breath (which is what brought him in). ECHO showed right sided failure with a fibrous clot in one of the ventricles.

He has done meth in the past, which could be the cause. But then he told me he had 2 moderna jabs in October.
Untreated myo/pericarditis?? Enough to make ya go hmmmm.... :confused:
Sounds like it! :(
 

day late

money? whats that?
I agree, verification would be good, however there is much available evidence that things are not what the gov. would have us believe. Which reminds me for those who quickly call woo to anything they have not seen for themselves, I offer this.

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio , than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” ― William Shakespeare, Hamlet
 

psychgirl

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This thread is not about heartworms. It's about clots that are elongated. Worms were referred to as a description framework, not as being what they actually are. This was explicit in the video.
Yes.
He said that more than once in the interview.
 
If these were floating free they'd quickly clump up and create a total block. I have to assume they're attached at the upstream end and are growing downstream by some kind of accretion.
The person being embalmed better be dead. I think they address that on the first day of embalming school.
 
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Tristan

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Thank you.
He only used the term “worm” for lack of a better way to dewhat he’s found.

If they ARE fibrous clots then that woman doctor doing the video, wouldn’t she know about those?
She said she’s never heard of whatever it was that he found and neither has any other colleague of the mortician.

It’s all just so weird.


But luckily, the PharmaCorps are immune.




(in case you're wondering, that was sarcasm... bitter sarcasm.)

If info like this keeps coming out, (and proves to be true,) they may find that their Legal Immunity don't mean squat.
 
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Laurane

Canadian Loonie
My husband had a clot the full length of his left arm, after an accident which broke his ribs and pelvis. The doctor used Streptokinase, which can only be used once in a lifetime.......he had to wear an medical alert medal with info NOT to give it again. It was so bad after several days they talked about amputation to save his life. The day after that, the clot dissolved and we know that God had other things in mind for him as he had no more problems other than lungs.

His surgeon was his Bishop from Church...... said he didn't want him to drive away potential customers by making him one armed (or something to that effect) LOL

Hope DIL and baby have a good outcome too.

Sent the video to the local funeral home who took care of my husband last year - he agreed to watch it, probably because he was trying to figure out my description of the things.
 
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Josie

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The normal process of clotting has the platelets coming to the scene of the injury and forming "sticky" strands called fibrinogen. The fibrinogen forms a mesh of sorts and catches the blood cells to form a scab or clot. Now, there are people, like my husband, who have a genetic disposition for clotting. It's called Factor V Leiden. They are more likely to form vein clots or DVT and have to be on blood thinners or aspirin to prevent clots which can lead to pulmonary embolism. He has it and his brother has it and of the five siblings they are the only two that have been tested so far. Both of his parents struggled with clots in their golden years.

If you will remember, clotting issues were one of the first problems that were seen in pts. that had died from Covid two years ago before the vax. I remember asking if taking a daily baby aspirin prophylactically would help anyone that got Covid. The consensus here was it probably wasn't enough to stop it, but it couldn't hurt if you were already prescribed it by your doctor.
 

bev

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Josie, I thought aspirin was included in the FLCCC protocol.

Factor V Leiden runs in my DH’s side of the family. He developed a DVT after flying GA to Maine for a mission trip about 8-9 years ago. It took a long time to clear up, and you can tell even now just by looking which leg was involved.
 

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
There's recent thread (can't remember who posted), where the daughter of a member had long clots removed from the leg. If memory serves, she had to return to hospital with more clotting.

The pictures of the removed clot string she posted are disturbing.
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I do know long clots are a real thing...occurring and documented before covid came round. One caused my cousin to have a massive stroke. Med evac to Cleveland Clinic where it was surgically removed from the base of his brain. It was many inches long. FWIW
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
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Oh my god--that looks like a couple of NECKLACES I own--that I got up in the mountains--made of common gem-STONES..........

this is horrible
 

Krayola

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This thread is not about heartworms. It's about clots that are elongated. Worms were referred to as a description framework, not as being what they actually are. This was explicit in the video.
If the above is true, the thread title is misleading and needs to be adjusted to reflect the true topic of this thread.
 

Babs

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I'm leary of these type videos.

Too convenient to divert our attention and make us look like kooks.

Knowing nothing of embalming, limits me...
The debunkers will get busy...

I agree. There are lots of embalmers in the country. You'd think we'd be seeing these reports everywhere. Not something that could really be hidden. I do know that the jab causes clots, but I really question that these are some type of worm or anything different than other long clots. JMHO
 

Luddite

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. I do know that the jab causes clots, but I really question that these are some type of worm or anything different than other long clots. JMHO
That is precisely the point. The word "worm" has wormed its way into the discussion.
Has the clotting issue been fully addressed in current protocol?
The lack of prophylactic or early treatments for covid has frustrated many, including me.
 

y2ksurvivor

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That is precisely the point. The word "worm" has wormed its way into the discussion.
Has the clotting issue been fully addressed in current protocol?
The lack of prophylactic or early treatments for covid has frustrated many, including me.

They've been available since May 2020. Go to the FLCCC website. Ivermectin can be taken as a prophylactic weekly in small doses, or used in larger doses ideally within 72 hours of contracting covid.
 

y2ksurvivor

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Josie, I thought aspirin was included in the FLCCC protocol.

Factor V Leiden runs in my DH’s side of the family. He developed a DVT after flying GA to Maine for a mission trip about 8-9 years ago. It took a long time to clear up, and you can tell even now just by looking which leg was involved.

aspirin is included yes
 

Luddite

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They've been available since May 2020. Go to the FLCCC website. Ivermectin can be taken as a prophylactic weekly in small doses, or used in larger doses ideally within 72 hours of contracting covid.
I agree 100%.
I have sent many people irl to the flccc for their own research. They aren't "mainstream " by any definition.

I'm not displeased with wobble or any poster on this thread. I knew from the minute I read the title, a potential valid discussion would go off in the weeds.

"Normal people" would skim over this thread with a derisive glance.
Of course, we're not normal. :D
 

blindhog

Flats Captain
I agree. There are lots of embalmers in the country. You'd think we'd be seeing these reports everywhere. Not something that could really be hidden. I do know that the jab causes clots, but I really question that these are some type of worm or anything different than other long clots. JMHO
I know a local embalmer who has been seeing the clotting for over a year in the deceased.
 

rondaben

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blood clots when its not moving.

When the heart stops blood no longer moves.

When you die, your blood clots. All of it. Unless you were on massive amounts of anticoagulants or had DIC. Then may be not.

Its long and slender because the clot forms in the blood vessels which are basically just tubes to convey the blood.
 

Luddite

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The question remains: are the visible signs DIFFERENT now, post covid19?
take two aspirins and call me in the morning :rolleyes:
 
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psychgirl

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blood clots when its not moving.

When the heart stops blood no longer moves.

When you die, your blood clots. All of it. Unless you were on massive amounts of anticoagulants or had DIC. Then may be not.

Its long and slender because the clot forms in the blood vessels which are basically just tubes to convey the blood.
But wouldn’t a mortician already know this and not be seemingly so baffled?

What are those fibrous objects at the end of the clots?
 

rondaben

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But wouldn’t a mortician already know this and not be seemingly so baffled?

What are those fibrous objects at the end of the clots?

Yes, he should. The entire strand is a single clot. The widest portions there are quite a bit smaller than the aorta in diameter and so likely came either from arterial vessels downstream or the venous side. There is variability in clotting that can point towards either post-mortem clotting or to "agonal thrombosis" which occurs during the process of death. Given how prone C19 patients are to clots I would imagine the latter is much more common now that was seen prior to the pandemic.
 

rondaben

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Normal clots are not the issue. The point is the whitish thready stuff in the clot, which seems to surprise the mortician and those he's talked with. I have no expertise in this area.

you can have "white clots" post mortem. they occur a few hours after death once there has been settling of the blood cells to the gravity dependent areas. The liquid portion still clots--the white is fibrin strands.

Here is a video where you can see this happening in a serum separator tube.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfxpuovlvwA


In this the tube has been separated by centrifuging it. the red cells settle to the bottom, the plasma/serum rises. There is a gel in the tube that has a density lower than the blood cells but higher than the plasma/serum. These tubes are meant to cause clotting, but if they are centrifuged before that happens the liquid portion can still clot afterwards. In the video she will put 2 applicator sticks into the sample to remove the fibrin strands. As she spools it around the sticks you can see the white fibrin pretty clearly. This is most likely the white strands that are being seen.
 

psychgirl

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you can have "white clots" post mortem. they occur a few hours after death once there has been settling of the blood cells to the gravity dependent areas. The liquid portion still clots--the white is fibrin strands.

Here is a video where you can see this happening in a serum separator tube.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfxpuovlvwA


In this the tube has been separated by centrifuging it. the red cells settle to the bottom, the plasma/serum rises. There is a gel in the tube that has a density lower than the blood cells but higher than the plasma/serum. These tubes are meant to cause clotting, but if they are centrifuged before that happens the liquid portion can still clot afterwards. In the video she will put 2 applicator sticks into the sample to remove the fibrin strands. As she spools it around the sticks you can see the white fibrin pretty clearly. This is most likely the white strands that are being seen.
This would be similar to when we spin down blood using the serum separator tubes to be sent out to the lab, correct?
 

rondaben

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This would be similar to when we spin down blood using the serum separator tubes to be sent out to the lab, correct?
Yep. Exactly. If you let them sit for 10 minutes or so prior to spinning them down you don't get that problem. In that case the gel separates the fibrin clots into the cell fraction. You can also seen this even if you wait in people to are on coumadin or heparin as it delays how quickly blood clots on its own.
 
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