Weather Controlling the weather has been possible since at least 1916, evidence shows

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
1667424339090.png

11/01/2022 / By Ethan Huff

As of late, it has suddenly become not-so-crazy to suggest that technology exists to manipulate the weather. In fact, the government is all but admitting, at this point, that geoengineering, aka chemtrails, is real and that it is being used to stop “global warming.”

Well, what would you say if someone told you that such technology has not just been around for years or even decades, but for more than a century? A man named Charles Mallory Hatfield, born into a Quaker family in Fort Scott, Kan., in 1875, is one of the earliest known weather makers.

Dubbed “the rainmaker,” Hatfield would state during his upbringing that his greatest ambition in life was pluviculture, or the science of “rainmaking.” He would leave his family business in 1904 to pursue this dream. (Related: Check out this list of patents suggesting that weather manipulation is happening all around us.)

History states that Hatfield developed a secret rainmaking mixture containing 23 different ingredients, two of them being dynamite and nitroglycerin. By unleashing this mystery concoction into the atmosphere via evaporator tanks, Hatfield discovered that it was possible to create artificial rain.

“The key is for there to be clouds in the sky, and to chemically force the water from said clouds to fall to the ground,” reports explain about the more primitive and imprecise nature of what Hatfield had available to him at that time.

San Diego county paid Hatfield $10,000 ($294,000 in today’s terms) to add 15 billion gallons of water to area reservoir​

At the time when Hatfield discovered this technology, the area in which he worked was suffering through extreme drought conditions. It was the desert climate of Southern California, after all, which has been facing a “changing” climate, so to speak, for many centuries.

These changes are natural, of course, and have absolutely nothing to do with human activity. But the point is that the state had water problems even back then, and weather manipulation was on the docket at the time for use as a tool to combat it.

Hatfield was able to forge a deal guaranteeing 18 inches of rain in just five months. He was paid $1,000, the equivalent of about $33,000 today, to make it all happen. By 1915, he would become a superstar for successfully completing his mission.

The rain Hatfield was able to produce helped keep cotton growers in business, as well as miners and others across several southwestern states and territories. Over time, his pay rate increased to $4,000, or about $130,000 in today’s inflated terms.

Hatfield’s efforts were so consistently successful that San Diego County would eventually pay him $10,000, or the equivalent of $294,000 today, to fill up an entire area reservoir with 15 billion gallons of water.

According to materials housed at the San Diego Public Library, the effort was a success – and was actually too successful in that heavy rains throughout the area actually caused major flooding.

The Lower Otai Dam would end up breaking not long after, killing 19 people as a 20-foot-high wall of water came pouring across the area. Still, San Diego would get the water it needed, all thanks to Hatfield’s atmospheric chemical blasting technology.

There is a lot more to the story that you can read about at this link, but suffice it to say that artificial rain has been a real-life thing since the early 1900s.

And keep in mind that rainmaking and other weather-altering technologies have only become more sophisticated since that time, allowing geoengineers the ability to not only create rain but also prevent it (i.e., intentional droughts).

If you enjoyed reading this story, you will find more like it at Geoengineering.news.

 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We were given “dominion over the earth”……and presumably lost it at the fall……..

Some are stumbling back into that knowledge, and most aren’t using it for good.

Not far fetched at all…..but does beg the question when “their” efforts toward destruction seem to go unchecked……

“Where is God ?”

Not rhetorical…..not judgmental…..just sincere curiosity.
 

winodog

The Bible is a flat earth book
We were given “dominion over the earth”……and presumably lost it at the fall……..

Some are stumbling back into that knowledge, and most aren’t using it for good.

Not far fetched at all…..but does beg the question when “their” efforts toward destruction seem to go unchecked……

“Where is God ?”

Not rhetorical…..not judgmental…..just sincere curiosity.
Waiting for just the right moment on the timeline to rightfully scourge the jews and pour out his wrath on all humanity.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
We were given “dominion over the earth”……and presumably lost it at the fall……..

Some are stumbling back into that knowledge, and most aren’t using it for good.

Not far fetched at all…..but does beg the question when “their” efforts toward destruction seem to go unchecked……

“Where is God ?”

Not rhetorical…..not judgmental…..just sincere curiosity.
Wait, wait, I hear him knocking on the door right now...for that matter.

Geoengineering watches website is a must read. Takes the woo right out of all of it. Chemtrails are part of today's system to alter weather. Not woo at all. Verifiable facts. And much much more. HAARP is an effective system as well. They can and could generate near perfect rainfall, where it matters for the sake of maximum harvests. Instead it is weaponized against them. It's a weapon of war, and they use it against the civilians here in the US.
 

Delta

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"Control" (as in controlling the weather) is a mighty big word. I'd suggest "Affect". We'd burn the stubble left after harvesting wheat, and sometimes the heat would create an updraft that would make a cumulus cloud. Maybe once that turned into a cumulonimbus and we had rain. Took just the right conditions.
 
“Where is God ?”

Not rhetorical…..not judgmental…..just sincere curiosity.
All around you, and everywhere, all of the time.

Do you know or understand the (still) hidden powers of his creation, and how they can be employed/work? <rhetorical>

Think of the same question/commentary being discussed with a Founding Father-era scientist (1700s), regarding our ubiquitous and ever-portable smartphones - live interactive/canned video, audio, text on-the-fly, from nearly anywhere on the planet, 24/7/365 - astounded would be an understatement of that wide-eyed 1700s scientist, as you were to reveal the (hidden to THAT era scientist) tech details.

Today, NOBODY thinks anything of the extreme science/tech behind a working smartphone system - the tech just works, and people just USE it.

It is a tool.

The outrageous amount of tech and infrastructure necessary to make a modern smartphone WORK, is HUUGE!

An end-user isn't required to know about all of the HIGH science behind a smartphone - same flavor of comment regarding modern vehicles - the user/driver of a vehicle is not required to know much about the tech of a vehicle, only WHERE to insert the key, how to use the steering wheel, brake pedal, gas pedal, etc.

I am answering your question in an oblique way - there is high-science yet revealed to the masses, at this time, that likely SOME are able to employ for their own uses, today.

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”

― Arthur C. Clarke, Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry Into the Limits of the Possible

YMMV. Stay tuned.


intothegoodnight
 
Last edited:

Cardinal

Chickministrator
_______________
As part of the US’s attempt to win the Vietnam War, the US military undertook a secret weather manipulation operation in South East Asia.

More than US$3 million was spent from 1967 to 1972 as the secret project sought to make the monsoon season longer and flood the Ho Chi Minh trail, which was being used by the North Vietnamese as a supply route.

It was hoped that the extra rains would cause rivers to flood cutting off bridges and crossings, as well as landslides. It was the first military operation that attempted to influence the weather.

Some saw it as a positive alternative to fighting and bombing.

The operation included creating clouds over South East Asia using silver iodide. American jets made about 2000 sorties to create the clouds. The cloud making units were attached to the side of WC-130A Hercules aircraft.

General Electric and the US military had already previously worked together to attempt to control weather systems, after World War Two.

Whether the program was successful or not remains debated. Some agree that the manmade clouds created between one and seven inches of rainfall every year of the operation. However, no data was retrieved from the operation so it can never be corroborated.

Meanwhile General Westmoreland,who was commander of US military operations during the Vietnam War, did not believe the cloud units had created any great increase in rain in the region.

As details of the project began to leak into the public domain many showed concern. The US military and Nixon administration tried to deny the project and even the Secretary of Defense at the time, Melvin Laird, stated as such to a Senate hearing in 1972.

But both the Washington Post and New York Times ran stories revealing that the project was in fact a reality. Once these newspaper articles appeared the project was closed down to ensure there was no public hysteria around the operation.

Pressure from the general public, which did not want its government ‘playing God’, encouraged Congress to pass new legislation that would ban weather control operations from military activity, the Paleofuture reports.

While most agree weather manipulation is a dangerous activity, particularly for war, the US military and its intelligence agencies are still researching the subject, but this time how it could be used by foreign powers on the US.

c36fabf674abbaad7dc2378d40d6c22e

Ian Harvey

 
Bein' able to make rain in 1916 ain't quite the same as "controlling the weather" in my view.
Sunshine, then rain.

Later, after the rain clears off, sunshine.

Sounds like a description of "weather," to me - exactly the kind of weather that Mother Nature might provide.

Now, add in a man-made process that brings about rain via the deployment of a rain-making process, by man - at man's time of choosing.

Rain that occurs as part of this man-made and deployed process is no less "wet and falling" than Mother Nature-created rain.

Still fits the description of "weather," whether or not Mother Nature-induced, or man-induced.


intothegoodnight
 
Last edited:
Allegedly “making it rain in 1916”. The guy lucked out once or twice and hit duds a bunch more times.
Historically, sharpie inventors/scientists have tended to stumble along this very path as they proceed towards understanding and possible mastery . . .


intothegoodnight
 
Last edited:

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Initially…..my question was directed more toward where is Creator when modern technology is ripping Florida to shreds, so to speak.

And I ask that as sort of a pre-emptive to those who still believe that ONLY “God” controls the weather……


It boggles the simple mind (mine) just what all is actually allowed to transpire…..under His “watch”.


Again……no malice, judgment or despair……

Just observations from the ground floor.
 
Initially…..my question was directed more toward where is Creator when modern technology is ripping Florida to shreds, so to speak.

And I ask that as sort of a pre-emptive to those who still believe that ONLY “God” controls the weather……


It boggles the simple mind (mine) just what all is actually allowed to transpire…..under His “watch”.


Again……no malice, judgment or despair……

Just observations from the ground floor.
How do you define, "His watch?"


intothegoodnight
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
Not to mention that there are congressional records that document our government admitting to the existence and use of chemtrails. Geoengineering is almost considered normal in some other countries; Spain fully admits--in public newspapers--that they're chemtrailing their citizens. Someone actually posted one of those articles here several weeks ago. It was in reference to the Spanish government being unsatisfied with the percentage of vaccinated individuals in the country, and their intention of adding the vaxx to the chemtrails in order to ensure more people were exposed to it.
 
Any portion of time between His act of Creation and the end of the darkness that has overtaken it.
". . . the end of the darkness that has overtaken it."

More specific, please. (am thinking alpha/omega (time) - light AND darkness - darkness is not an end, rather a valid and necessary part of the intended creation cycle)

Intention.


intothegoodnight
 
Last edited:
I believe that Jesus was one of the first documented weather manipulators, to wit:

23 And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him.

24 And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that
the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep.

25 And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.

26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose,
and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.


27 But the men marveled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

— Matthew 8:23-27 (KJV)


intothegoodnight
 

wobble

Veteran Member
Walt Disney made a beautiful film about it in the 50's, and pretty much, it's what we see going on today...pretty much.
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I believe that Jesus was one of the first documented weather manipulators, to wit:

23 And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him.

24 And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that
the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep.

25 And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.

26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose,
and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.


27 But the men marveled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

— Matthew 8:23-27 (KJV)


intothegoodnight

I also believe Adam had such influence potential.

Incidentally…..Heaven would not be “heaven” to me…..without evenings….without the nights….without……”Her”.


If those considerations are lacking, for real…..you may not find me there……and if you do, it won’t be me, it will be a wiped, lobotomized drone/husk remainder of the real me.


:popcorn3:
 
At marker ~18:50, the narrator mentions "robot planes seed the clouds from above."

At ~20:09, the narrator mentions "specially equipped robot aircraft are dispatched immediately, to release a high-concentration of cloud-seeding material into the storm."

If this Disney presentation was truly prepared and presented in 1959, then several questions immediately become apparent - WHAT "robot" planes/aircraft? How do these "robot" planes operate, take-off, land? How big are they? What are they powered by? How long can they fly before needing refueling? At what altitude do they fly? What is the means of control of these "robot" planes/aircraft? What are they "seeding" into the clouds? What is the "seeding" payload that each "robot" planes/aircraft is able to carry/ferry aloft? Are there any onboard pilots?

The "sell and closing" comes in at ~23:58 - when "everything will become bright, better and beautiful," with the proper application of man-made tech weather intervention - "rainbows and fuzzy bunnies abound," etc.

In all of my years involved in the heavy-duty tech world, I never heard any of this, before - certainly not something produced in 1959 from Disney.

Why Disney? I am familiar with many, many government-created information productions down through the 1950s and later. Most are a bit dry/techie, but are aimed at particular tech literate audiences of that time, or at important politicos and movers-shakers of that era (read: we are looking for funding, so listen up Congress and capital markets, to what the R&D tech denizens have cooked up, this time!)

Disney was utilized, in this production, to put a softer, happier face on the idea of weather manipulation, so that such an idea could be more easily embraced by J6P public - it is a seductive sales pitch, of sorts, TO the general public, at large.

Bigger question - is this a REAL, 1959 production, or is this someone's recent production effort designed to falsely infer that this was the "state-of-tech" in 1959?

Was this (apparently) Disney-produced weather manipulation "infomercial" ever actually released to the public? How, when, and where was it shown? I have never seen this, before.


intothegoodnight
 
Last edited:

wobble

Veteran Member
At marker ~18:50, the narrator mentions "robot planes seed the clouds from above."

At ~20:09, the narrator mentions "specially equipped robot aircraft are dispatched immediately, to release a high-concentration of cloud-seeding material into the storm."

If this Disney presentation was truly prepared and presented in 1959, then several questions immediately become apparent - WHAT "robot" planes/aircraft? How do these "robot" planes operate, take-off, land? How big are they? What are they powered by? How long can they fly before needing refueling? At what altitude do they fly? What is the means of control of these "robot" planes/aircraft? What are they "seeding" into the clouds? What is the "seeding" payload that each "robot" planes/aircraft is able to carry/ferry aloft? Are there any onboard pilots?

The "sell and closing" comes in at ~23:58 - when "everything will become bright, better and beautiful," with the proper application of man-made tech weather intervention - "rainbows and fuzzy bunnies abound," etc.

In all of my years involved in the heavy-duty tech world, I never heard any of this, before - certainly not something produced in 1959 from Disney.

Why Disney? I am familiar with many, many government-created information productions down through the 1950s and later. Most are a bit dry/techie, but are aimed at particular tech literate audiences of that time, or at important politicos and movers-shakers of that era (read: we are looking for funding, so listen up Congress and capital markets, to what the R&D tech denizens have cooked up, this time!)

Disney was utilized, in this production, to put a softer, happier face on the idea of weather manipulation, so that such an idea could be more easily embraced by J6P public - it is a seductive sales pitch, of sorts, TO the general public, at large.

Bigger question - is this a REAL, 1959 production, or is this someone's recent production effort designed to falsely infer that this was the "state-of-tech" in 1959?

Was this (apparently) Disney-produced weather manipulation "infomercial" ever actually released to the public? How, when, and where was it shown? I have never seen this, before.


intothegoodnight
I first came across the Disney production in 1998, about 20 years after I began questioning the basic 'conspiracy' on my own in 1979.

I also came across this jewel about the same time I came across this NBC new segment from 1980.
View: https://youtu.be/L6X5QZDQ6mw
 
Last edited:

wobble

Veteran Member
At marker ~18:50, the narrator mentions "robot planes seed the clouds from above."

At ~20:09, the narrator mentions "specially equipped robot aircraft are dispatched immediately, to release a high-concentration of cloud-seeding material into the storm."

If this Disney presentation was truly prepared and presented in 1959, then several questions immediately become apparent - WHAT "robot" planes/aircraft? How do these "robot" planes operate, take-off, land? How big are they? What are they powered by? How long can they fly before needing refueling? At what altitude do they fly? What is the means of control of these "robot" planes/aircraft? What are they "seeding" into the clouds? What is the "seeding" payload that each "robot" planes/aircraft is able to carry/ferry aloft? Are there any onboard pilots?

The "sell and closing" comes in at ~23:58 - when "everything will become bright, better and beautiful," with the proper application of man-made tech weather intervention - "rainbows and fuzzy bunnies abound," etc.

In all of my years involved in the heavy-duty tech world, I never heard any of this, before - certainly not something produced in 1959 from Disney.

Why Disney? I am familiar with many, many government-created information productions down through the 1950s and later. Most are a bit dry/techie, but are aimed at particular tech literate audiences of that time, or at important politicos and movers-shakers of that era (read: we are looking for funding, so listen up Congress and capital markets, to what the R&D tech denizens have cooked up, this time!)

Disney was utilized, in this production, to put a softer, happier face on the idea of weather manipulation, so that such an idea could be more easily embraced by J6P public - it is a seductive sales pitch, of sorts, TO the general public, at large.

Bigger question - is this a REAL, 1959 production, or is this someone's recent production effort designed to falsely infer that this was the "state-of-tech" in 1959?

Was this (apparently) Disney-produced weather manipulation "infomercial" ever actually released to the public? How, when, and where was it shown? I have never seen this, before.


intothegoodnight

Screen Shot 2022-11-04 at 4.34.35 PM.png
 

View attachment 375827
Thanks for posting further about this - however, something is still quite "smelly" about all of this narrative **suddenly** being "injected" into the normie's noosphere - seems staged and contrived, somehow - "made for this moment," as it were.

Skeptical, I remain.

Pondering the many suggested implications of the claims made in the Disney weather manipulation short film, some of which I articulated in my above previous post, they would like us to believe that there was a whole parallel tech reality simultaneously existing alongside "normie" reality, in 1959.

That is a BIG pill for this cat to swallow on this topic, as presented.


intothegoodnight
 
Last edited:

Am thinking back on the political change that occurred shortly after 1959, as the Eisenhower/Nixon administration exited, and the newly elected Kennedy administration entered, in 1960.

What national security state thinking may have shifted against further public disclosure of man-made weather manipulation, with the arrival of the Kennedy/Johnson administration in 1960, and who was behind this apparent change of disclosure policy? (did not see any further public discussion/follow-on regarding weather manipulation after the 1959 Disney/government infomercial release, per se).

I am beginning to think that **somebody** put the lid BACK on the topics of weather manipulation and "robot" controlled aircraft around 1960, by re-classifying this technology - but such would not prevent/restrict further public discussion by the public, since the publicly released and disclosed 1959 Disney/government weather manipulation informercial is legally in the public domain, and is legally/legitimately discussable by the public, and by those not bound by (re)classified topics/NDA agreements, etc.


intothegoodnight
 
Last edited:

wobble

Veteran Member

Thinking a bit further about alleged "robot" (remote) controlled "aircraft" of the 1959 era, that were allegedly being used for weather control testing purposes; a couple of additional thoughts.

If the intention of the science staff was to test the effectiveness of certain chemicals/substances being disbursed into the atmosphere at various altitudes, in order to learn how to manipulate/control the weather, what chemical/substances, specifically, were tested, and in what quantities/concentrations/forms, over what size/dimension of atmospheric space (concentration levels), and at what altitudes?

What specific brand/design-types of "robot" controlled aircraft were being employed? What engines were used to power these "robot" controlled aircraft?

What payload capacity were these "robot" aircraft capable of carrying aloft?

Could these "robot" aircraft land at any typical airfield of that day, or, were they relegated to landing at specially equipped airfield facilities? (and the name and location of the specially-equipped airfields, if so)

Regarding the size of these "robot" planes - presumably, they would not be single-engine private aircraft-sized planes, due to altitude and payload limitations.

Even bumping up the size of the plane to a twin-engine (prop) DC-3 cargo plane, they would, presumably, still be altitude limited, particularly when loaded, though able to carry some amount of payload weight, aloft.

Jet-powered cargo airplanes (of that era?) would be capable of carrying a substantial cargo aloft, at a higher altitude than a loaded DC-3 prop-driven cargo plane.

Which all circles-back to a larger question - what, exactly, was the state-of-the-art "robot" tech that allowed "robot" control of aircraft, in 1959, and exactly how did it all work - ground controllers and ground control gear (detailed description of the whole suite of ground-gear needed), "robot" receivers/control gear in the planes, the electro-mechanical devices and interface used between the "robot" control commands and the mechanical surface/engine controls on the aircraft, and the ground handling, housing and servicing required by these "robot" aircraft, etc.

Finally - am thinking back on the political change that occurred shortly after 1959, as the Eisenhower/Nixon administration exited, and the newly elected Kennedy administration entered, in 1960.

What national security state thinking may have shifted against further public disclosure of "robot" aircraft technology and man-made weather manipulation, with the arrival of the Kennedy/Johnson administration in 1960, and who was behind this apparent change of disclosure policy? (did not see any further public discussion/follow-on regarding weather manipulation or "robot" aircraft, after the 1959 Disney/government infomercial release, per se).

I am beginning to think that **somebody** put the lid BACK on the topics of weather manipulation and "robot" controlled aircraft around 1960, by re-classifying these technologies - but such would not prevent/restrict further public discussion by the public, since the publicly released and disclosed 1959 Disney/government weather manipulation informercial is legally in the public domain, and is legally/legitimately discussable by the public, and by those not bound by (re)classified topics/NDA agreements, etc.

Yet, I did not hear anything about either tech during my tech formulative/professional years - here and abroad - nor had anyone else in my connected tech circles, as far as I (would be allowed to) know.

Compartmentalization - It Just Works® ?


intothegoodnight

ETA: Thinking specifically of the "robot" control electronics that would be aboard a 1959-era "robot" aircraft (specifically the "robot" receiver/transmitter, computer, and the associated significant electro-mechanical gear).

1959 was an era where there were no (known) integrated circuits - while transistors existed, everything was discrete circutry, in design - think a TV of the 1959 era - put out lots of heat, and used a notable amount of power from the home AC power system (shore power).

Being aloft in a "robot" controlled aircraft would mean that the "robot" electronics onboard that aircraft produced notable heat, and were power hungry - which would require the "robot" aircraft to necessarily carry, onboard, sufficient battery (read: heavy lead acid batteries) capacity to assure that the "robot" plane would be able to safely land after their weather manipulation test mission was accomplished (presumably not a kamikaze/one-way drone of some sort).

If all above is true, then the heavy lead-acid onboard batteries would significantly subtract from the total payload-carrying capacity of these "robot" aircraft - again, just how big WERE these "robot" aircraft, and WHAT engines powered them?

Or, was an onboard aircraft engine-driven generator of sufficient capacity to power everything through the duration of the flight, without batteries? (would think that the "robot" aircraft would have some batteries onboard, to "even-out" expected generator fluctuations and spikes)

Technically, and specifically, what power-supply gear, of what capability/capacity, supplied power to the onboard "robot" aircraft control system, in 1959, and how much did it all weigh/detract from the "robot" aircraft's payload carrying capacity?
The narrative of robot aircraft was referencing the possibilties of the future, not robot aircraft in 1959.
 
The narrative of robot aircraft was referencing the possibilties of the future, not robot aircraft in 1959.
Thanks for the thought - pondered your point, after I commented - but did not take the time to rewatch the Disney informercial.

My secondary comments still stand - it would appear that any further public revelation of weather manipulation by the FedGov was pulled back under the cover of FedGov, and is still **officially** denied, today - despite prolific and long-ongoing public conversations to the contrary.

Another one of those narratives that everyone is supposed to follow - and many (most?) of the scientist bunch that have atmospheric experience/background - whether they are FedGov associated or private/academic sector - are simply not willing to toast their career/creds by publicly discussing a counter-narrative.

Shades of the COVID plandemic, while the ongoing communist mayhem wreaked havoc upon the snoozing humans.

I have edited out my commentaries regarding the "robot" aircraft, as they are no longer germane to this weather manipulation discussion.


intothegoodnight
 
Last edited:

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Top