INTL Charcoal-powered Vehicles Stage a Comeback in North Korea

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Charcoal-powered Vehicles Stage a Comeback in North Korea

2016-12-09

Charcoal-powered vehicles have reappeared in North Korea because most ordinary citizens cannot afford high oil prices, North Korean sources inside the country said.

Although charcoal-powered vehicles are slower and more uncomfortable than those that run on gasoline or diesel, many people use them because they offer a less expensive source of transportation, the sources said.

North Korean civilians and soldiers previously drove charcoal-powered trucks—which have not been used in the West since World War II—to deal with fuel shortages. The charcoal produces a flammable gas that powers the engine, causing vehicles to produce heaps of smoke.

They fell out of use in the 1990s and early 2000s with the increased use of gasoline, but have made a comeback as an apparent result of restricted oil flows into North Korea with the tougher economic sanctions imposed on it earlier this year as punishment for conducting nuclear tests and missile launches.

Charcoal-powered vehicles now stand in line and wait for passengers in front of the Aviation University near the Sunam and Pohang areas of Chongjin, capital of North Hamgyong province, a source from the province said.

The vehicles, which are registered in the name of the business that owns them, do this to earn money, he said.

“The charcoal-driven vehicles that run in Chongjin are the Seung-ri 58 (Victory 58) models that North Korea produced, and the Chinese Hae-Bang-Ho (Liberation) models,” the source said.

Despite the slow speed of the smoke-belching vehicles, “many common residents use them because the fare is cheap,” he said.

“Since North Korean authorities have commanded residents to stop using trains, people have turned to charcoal-powered vehicles,” he said, adding that they transport both people and their belongings, and goods for businesses.

No traffic tickets

There are various types of charcoal-powered vehicles, including a 20-ton heavy-duty truck, and one-ton, 15-ton and 2.5-ton freight cars, the source said.

Though regular motor vehicles are subject to fines imposed by police, charcoal-powered vehicles are not subject to traffic regulations, the source said. This keeps down the price of a ride for passengers who do not have to worry about owners passing fines on to them through fare increases.

“Charcoal-driven vehicles are actually exempt from abiding by regular traffic regulations, so most of the vehicles are affiliated with military units,” said another source from North Hamgyong province.

If traffic wardens do stop the vehicles, the machines spread pungent smoke around the side of the road, so they let them pass, he said.

The source noted one recent incident in which some Chinese on the other side of the border spotted a charcoal-powered vehicle. They thought something was wrong with it because of the copious amounts of smoke it was producing and yelled, “North Korean people, the vehicle is on fire!” to the driver as he drove along a road near Onsong county in North Hamgyong province near the border with China.

Wood as fuel

About 70 percent of the charcoal-powered vehicles currently operating have military unit license plates, the source said.

“Military units that operate deep in the mountains or in rural communities can cut down trees there without the regulatory oversight of the Forest Conservancy Administration” to get wood to fuel their charcoal-powered vehicles, the source said.

In a not-so-strange coincidence, the cost of wood has increased along with the price of gasoline and diesel, the sources said.

Some drivers even use corncobs coated with used oil, which is less expensive than wood, to power their trucks, but they produce dark, acrid smoke, the sources said.

Reported by Jieun Kim for RFA’s Korean Service. Translated by Soo Min Jo. Written in English by Roseanne Gerin.
 

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jed turtle

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That's my point....article is incorrect. Woodgass, not "charcoal". Charcoal is what you have after you get rid of the volatiles...which is "woodgas".

Er, if you go to driveonwood.com (link in thread #4 above) go to the forum ther and you will find threads devoted to charcoal powered engines, generators and vehicles both. The researchers there are doing tremendous effort at discovering better designs than the WW2 designs, also that site is the result of Wayne Keith's efforts to dramatically improve wood gasification over existing designs. I rode in his truck out at Argos a few years ago, and he easily topped 85 mph. By the way, his truck has been documents as producing fewer emissions than limited by the state of California. He says he can get about 5200 miles per cord at highway speeds...
I realize most of you do not know what a cord of wood is, but that one factoid is freaking HUGE!
And btw, wood is carbon neutral. A tree rotting on the ground makes the same amount of carbon dioxide as when it is gasified or burned.

ETA: btw, one of the researchers there sold me one of his homemade charcoal gasifiers after he showed me how he ran a 2 kW and 5.5 kW gasoline generator on this gas. I've been sifting barrels of homemade charcoal out of my wood stove ashes for years and have lots of fuel ready to go when gasoline becomes unobtainium...
 
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Er, if you go to driveonwood.com (link in thread #4 above) go to the forum ther and you will find threads devoted to charcoal powered engines, generators and vehicles both. The researchers there are doing tremendous effort at discovering better designs than the WW2 designs, also that site is the result of Wayne Keith's efforts to dramatically improve wood gasification over existing designs. I rode in his truck out at Argos a few years ago, and he easily topped 85 mph. By the way, his truck has been documents as producing fewer emissions than limited by the state of California. He says he can get about 5200 miles per cord at highway speeds...
I realize most of you do not know what a cord of wood is, but that one factoid is freaking HUGE!
And btw, wood is carbon neutral. A tree rotting on the ground makes the same amount of carbon dioxide as when it is gasified or burned.

ETA: btw, one of the researchers there sold me one of his homemade charcoal gasifiers after he showed me how he ran a 2 kW and 5.5 kW gasoline generator on this gas. I've been sifting barrels of homemade charcoal out of my wood stove ashes for years and have lots of fuel ready to go when gasoline becomes unobtainium...

I am aware of the difference.

But a charcoal gasifier should't produce "copious amounts of smoke"....

and "“Military units that operate deep in the mountains or in rural communities can cut down trees there without the regulatory oversight of the Forest Conservancy Administration” to get wood to fuel their charcoal-powered vehicles, the source said."

Wood is, as a I said before, not charcoal. And Charcoal gasifers are not woodgas gasifiers. At least not efficiently.

Apparently you are unaware of the difference? Or you missed that point?

I've built and operated both types. CO (charcoal) gasifiers are a lot cleaner than woodgas. I've produced electric power with both, not just read about it.

The article is somewhat unclear as to which type they are using. which is why I asked.

Perhaps read my post for comprehension.
 

jed turtle

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I am aware of the difference.

But a charcoal gasifier should't produce "copious amounts of smoke"....

and "“Military units that operate deep in the mountains or in rural communities can cut down trees there without the regulatory oversight of the Forest Conservancy Administration” to get wood to fuel their charcoal-powered vehicles, the source said."

Wood is, as a I said before, not charcoal. And Charcoal gasifers are not woodgas gasifiers. At least not efficiently.

Apparently you are unaware of the difference? Or you missed that point?

I've built and operated both types. CO (charcoal) gasifiers are a lot cleaner than woodgas. I've produced electric power with both, not just read about it.

The article is somewhat unclear as to which type they are using. which is why I asked.

Perhaps read my post for comprehension.

I replied primarily to the entire audience, which most likely wouldn't understand that both charcoal and wood can be used to gasify vehicles. With the new wayne Keith design, smoke coming from the vehicle would be very rare, usually only if the vehicle was being purposely back drafted to clear the grill under the retort of fines buildup.

Wood and charcoal gasifiers are the preppers' best shot at downhome independence from the petroleum industry imho.
The driveonwood.com site is the best place to learn about them. Matt Ryder (see post #4) makes probably the best commercially available units.
 
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