PREP Chainsaw score

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Some days God is just smiling on you. We've all had good days like that and, unfortunately, there are other days when you think the Devil's on your tail! Yesterday was a good day.

I'd gone to a nearby city to visit with a friend, help him with some problems he was having with his truck and do some "pawnshopping." My small, south Mississippi town only has one pawnshop. His still small, but somewhat larger town has three. A lot of people despise pawnshops, but we enjoy bargain hunting at them and especially looking for deals on firearms.

My mission of the day was to find a new-to-me circular saw. At the first shop we stopped at, I scored an almost like new Dewalt saw for a really good price. Note that a lot of people look at the price tags in a pawnshop and think those figures are carved in stone. They're not and most pawnshops are willing to negotiate. Try it some time! The line, "Cash sale, no receipt" can sometimes work wonders.

Though my personal mission was accomplished at the first pawn shop, we still had two more to go. At the second shop we didn't find anything that screamed out "take me home," but the staff fell in love with my '68 Ford F100 pickup and filed out for me to give them the deluxe tour.

At the last shop, my buddy almost bought an antique Winchester rifle, but my attention was caught by a tray of finger sandwiches on the counter. I quipped that this was the first time I'd seen a pawnshop offering hors d'oeuvres and the guy behind the counter instantly retorted with, "Well, we also have a dress code, sir and you need to wear a tie!" Personally, I enjoy the 'ell out of repartee like that.

He went on to explain that the sandwiches were leftover food from a reception and that they'd had them for lunch. The shop's customers were welcome to the rest. I didn't need to be told twice. Instant lunch!

About this time, a rough-looking guy came walking in with a Poulan Pro 20" chainsaw, wanting to make a deal. An older lady behind the counter - who I think may have been the first guy's mother - loudly proclaimed "No thank you! Every Poulan we've ever taken in wound up in the dumpster." I'm thinking to myself that while Poulans don't have the best reputation compared to, say, Stihls, they aren't bad. I've owned a couple and had no complaints. The first guy, the one who'd offered me the sandwiches, told the guy, "Sorry. We can't take it."

Okey dokey. They've turned the deal down and I'm free to do my own dickering. I sidled up to the guy and asked what he wanted for the saw. He replied, "Twenty bucks and it runs good." I asked him to step outside where he fired it up with one pull and showed me that it did indeed run well. A twenty immediately went from my pocket to his and the chainsaw went into my truck's bed. It's a nice, good-looking saw; the muffler hadn't even begun to rust!

With that, we headed back to my friend's house to work on his truck and then I headed home.

But my luck didn't end there. As I pulled into my quiet, rural neighborhood I noticed a tree crew working on the site of a new home that's under construction. I pulled over and asked the boss if I could have some of that wood. He told me to swing by tomorrow and they'd load up my truck! My luck and blessings continued to shine. When I finally got home, I asked DW what we were having for dinner. She said that she'd found a container of my homemade seafood gumbo hiding in the back of the freezer and was preparing that for me!

So, yesterday there was certainly an angel sitting on my shoulder and he was obviously busy keeping that Devil off my tail :-)

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Doc
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Snot de business, You're living right. You got an extra bedroom? Me and SB want to get in on that. LOL Maybe just being in the same state we'll have some of that rub off on us.

Congrats on the find. Finds.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Regarding the Poulan score, we've owned several of them over the years. Their newer models are better and not as finicky to start and keep running as those of lets say 20 years ago. Our 20 inch once running stays running and if kept sharp will do a days work. But our Stihl is a faster cutter.
 

Jeff B.

Don’t let the Piss Ants get you down…
Snot de business, You're living right. You got an extra bedroom? Me and SB want to get in on that. LOL Maybe just being in the same state we'll have some of that rub off on us.

Congrats on the find. Finds.

Stole my line, you're livin' right!

Anyhow, its always nice to hear of one of the volk having a run of good fortune!!

Jeff B.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Many times I feel that it would be better if I didn't. You'd have to understand the entirety of my life to understand why I feel that way. Platitudes don't do it for me.
 

Doc1

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L'il update:

I went back to the site this morning and asked the foreman if a twenty would get his guys to load up my truck with the firewood. They loaded it up - with the tailgate down, 'til the rear springs almost bottomed out.

Now, of course, I have the major job of unloading it, cutting it to length and splitting it myself. I'm not complaining, mind you, but the job is really only just starting.

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Doc
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Regarding the Poulan score, we've owned several of them over the years. Their newer models are better and not as finicky to start and keep running as those of lets say 20 years ago. Our 20 inch once running stays running and if kept sharp will do a days work. But our Stihl is a faster cutter.

Yep. I have a 16" Stihl, which is the only chainsaw I've ever bought new. It's a runner and a great cutter. I also have a 16" Poulan Pro, which is OK. Like the 20" Pro I bought yesterday, Poulan's "Pro" series is supposedly a cut above their consumer grade models. My 16" Poulan works fine, but it's not quite the cutter or runner that the Stihl is.

IMHO none of the name brand saws are really bad. The biggest problem I see with them is that people just don't maintain the little engines and then wonder why they don't run right. The most common neglect is not cleaning (or changing) the air filters and keeping old fuel in them.

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Doc
 

Capt. Eddie

Veteran Member
Yep. I have a 16" Stihl, which is the only chainsaw I've ever bought new. It's a runner and a great cutter. I also have a 16" Poulan Pro, which is OK. Like the 20" Pro I bought yesterday, Poulan's "Pro" series is supposedly a cut above their consumer grade models. My 16" Poulan works fine, but it's not quite the cutter or runner that the Stihl is.

IMHO none of the name brand saws are really bad. The biggest problem I see with them is that people just don't maintain the little engines and then wonder why they don't run right. The most common neglect is not cleaning (or changing) the air filters and keeping old fuel in them.

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Doc
I've got Poulon Pro 20" and it's been a very good saw. I take good care of it and it takes good care of me. In my experience TriLink chains from Lowes seem to hold an edge better than the Oregon or Poulon chains. My only complaint about Poulon was the difficulty of finding decent 70 link chains.
 
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CaryC

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L'il update:

I went back to the site this morning and asked the foreman if a twenty would get his guys to load up my truck with the firewood. They loaded it up - with the tailgate down, 'til the rear springs almost bottomed out.

Now, of course, I have the major job of unloading it, cutting it to length and splitting it myself. I'm not complaining, mind you, but the job is really only just starting.

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Doc
I know that is a job.

The last two loads I got, was where my son works, They took down a really big water oak, and we went over there and cut till we were tired, and the owner was using a small track hoe, with a "Thumb" and he loaded up our trailers till they couldn't hold any more, all in the 8 foot length, and I had a really big job on my hands when I we got home.

Like you thankful for them but it was a job. And since it was at home I took my time cutting the rest. I would encourage you to do the same.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Yep. I have a 16" Stihl, which is the only chainsaw I've ever bought new. It's a runner and a great cutter. I also have a 16" Poulan Pro, which is OK. Like the 20" Pro I bought yesterday, Poulan's "Pro" series is supposedly a cut above their consumer grade models. My 16" Poulan works fine, but it's not quite the cutter or runner that the Stihl is.

IMHO none of the name brand saws are really bad. The biggest problem I see with them is that people just don't maintain the little engines and then wonder why they don't run right. The most common neglect is not cleaning (or changing) the air filters and keeping old fuel in them.

Best
Doc
I used to buy el-cheapo Walmart 2 cycle oil for all of our 2 cycles, and trying to keep them running at idle or even start for that matter was always challenging. Then I started using Stihl synthetic in all of them. They start fast and when you set them down they keep running. Using premium alcohol free gas is also a must.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I used to buy el-cheapo Walmart 2 cycle oil for all of our 2 cycles, and trying to keep them running at idle or even start for that matter was always challenging. Then I started using Stihl synthetic in all of them. They start fast and when you set them down they keep running. Using premium alcohol free gas is also a must.

I'm using STP two cycle oil which seems to be working fine. BTW, I don't care what any of the manufacturers say, I never go below 32/1. You're lucky to find premium no ethanol in your area. Around here the only alcohol free gas to be found is regular.

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Walrus

Veteran Member
I'm using STP two cycle oil which seems to be working fine. BTW, I don't care what any of the manufacturers say, I never go below 32/1. You're lucky to find premium no ethanol in your area. Around here the only alcohol free gas to be found is regular.
Doc
It is a blessing having ethanol-free premium handy. There's a line of convenience stores named Signal which carry it here. (I use the two-cycle oil made by Echo/Shindawa in those engines which need it)

I keep a bunch of 5-gallon fuel containers full and mostly use this fuel for small engines: lawn mower, weed eater, chain saw, splitter, firefighting and water transfer pumps etc. and pre-treat it with Pri-G. I've run fuel that's 3 years old through everything with no problem and never worry about leaving fuel in the tanks over the winter. All the engines fire right up whenever I put them to work (I guess I should say when they put ME to work).
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
I'm using STP two cycle oil which seems to be working fine. BTW, I don't care what any of the manufacturers say, I never go below 32/1. You're lucky to find premium no ethanol in your area. Around here the only alcohol free gas to be found is regular.

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Doc
Right after making the previous comment I went out to do some chainsaw work with our Husqvarna, which is our dirt saw meaning it's used for dirty wood and cutting stumps flush with the ground. The front sprocket on the Husqvarna shattered so I had to use the Poulan. This brings to mind a quirk of a Poulan in that the carb needs to be adjusted for cold weather operation. It was about 32 degrees outside and it was just gutless until I opened the high jet a bunch and the idle jet a little. This quirk does not show up in a Husqvarna or Stihl.
 

Mtsilverback

Veteran Member
I have a 30 year old Husqavarna that really cut wood! However it is so old that I can not find a replacement gas cap gasket. Found one that worked real well , but it is failing. One pleasant surprise was the heated hand bar. Nice when cutting downed trees off the road to the mountain home during the winter.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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I've got an 18" Poulon Pro-my dad bought it for me several years ago when an ice storm tore off half the Oak in our front yard.

Had some issues with the chain but it was User Error versus the saw tho I did have to replace the chain and get the guy at the shop to do me some 'Learnin; on the chain and setting up, replacing and tensioning it.

Lightly used-last time was maybe two years ago trying to cut a stump into lamp table tops-bout like expected with me, did not go well unless you want your lamp and everything put on the table to slide off.

I should be a professional Wedge cutter.

Anyhoo, pulled it from the shed day-before-yesterday, gassed, oiled and added a splotch of Seafoam and, after cranking a bit, looked on youtube and figured out what I was doing wrongly, started on third pull.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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As far as gas, I'm using the 40 or 50:1 pre-mix in the can. I do have a couple of bottles of oil just in case. Don't use it enough at this point to want to risk the carb. We had to drive 40 minutes the night before a hurricane was due to find Eth free and, since we did not use the stuff for the hurricane, I was going to use it in the mower-it was trashed. Had the guy who then had to fix the carb in the mower look at the gas and he said the gas was trashed-must have been old or had water in the underground tanks. Smelled like old paint.
 

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
I have no idea what "good luck" is like. I've never in my life had any. Seriously.
Are you another one who falls far left on the bell curve of fate? I can relate. Long ago I stopped engaging in any competitions or choices that relied on luck because I nearly always lose.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
And yet another update and more blessings:

I didn't even mention this in previous posts, but it pertains to upper middle class suburbanites and their - usual - lack of knowledge regarding anything mechanical. This happened the day after I got my new-to-me circular saw and the Poulan Pro chainsaw.

I have a neighbor a couple of blocks away who's a very nice black woman. She is, or was, an officer at my local bank branch. She's since moved away and has gone to another branch of the same bank, but still owns her house here.

Anyway, last year she asked me to look at her generator, which wasn't running. It's a 5250 watt PowerBack with a 10 HP Tecumseh gas engine. Nothing expensive or exotic, just a typical consumer grade genny. Well, the main problem was that she'd had her mechanically clueless son try to "repair" it and it was partially disassembled. I told her that there was nothing I could do in a couple of minutes in her garage and that if she wanted to pay me to fix it, I'd have to take it to my shop. I never heard back from her and forgot about it.

Well, we have a mother and son who live next door to us. The mother is 82 and her son is in his fifties and has learning disabilities. He's a nice man, but his disability prevented him from learning to read. He likes to collect scrap metal and do chores in the neighborhood as a sideline and the bank officer lady paid him to clean out her garage. I saw all of his new "treasures" on his trailer. That generator was in the pile of junk!

I asked him what he was going to do with it and he said he was going to try to fix it. Well, nice guy though he is, he's absolutely terrible at trying to fix anything mechanical. Part of this is because he's illiterate and can't read a shop manual and part of it is because he's just stubborn and doesn't want to let anyone - including me or his several brothers - try to teach him anything. I gently suggested that with his poor track record of mechanical repairs, he might just want to sell the genny to me. Understand that at this point I had no idea what was wrong with it, so whatever I paid for it might have been money down a rat hole or it could be an easy fix and a good deal. We settled on $30 and he helped me drag it over to my shop where it sat for a couple of days.

Today, armed with a can of starting fluid, I went outside to give it a once over. It's still partially disassembled; the gas tank is off of it, the muffler had been removed and the lady's son had messed around with the carb. Oh well, I should still be able to see if it would fire and generate electricity.

I examined it carefully and, and, and...uh, and, er...discovered that the off/on switch was turned off! I turned it on, squirted some starting fluid into the thing and it fired right up. I plugged in one of my power tools and had DW hold the trigger while I started it again and it produced power just fine. The whole generator episode, including her son trying to "fix it" was the result of a switch being turned off!

I've still got to reassemble it and probably buy a new carb for it, but for thirty bucks I'm not complaining. After I order the carb kit, I'll still be into it for less than $50 and the Doc1 Homestead will have a spare, backup generator!

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Doc
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
The whole generator episode, including her son trying to "fix it" was the result of a switch being turned off!
A similar situation: A long time ago I was hired as a mechanic and my first job was to split a John Deere tractor and repair the main transmission because when placed in gear the tractor simply would not move. I got on the thing, started it, put it in first and they were right, nothing happened. Then I noticed it had a high/low range gear box after the transmission that was in neutral. I put that gear box in high and it took off like a charm, drove it to the idiot chief mechanic and said I fixed it.
 

Windy Ridge

Veteran Member
I once had a Poulan Pro that cut many a cord of wood. As it aged problems appeared. It started with the muffler falling off and ended with it being unable to do any wood cutting. It could only cut the air.

I had bought a Greenworks Pro weedeater that was battery powered and did an excellent job of cutting the weeds. So, I went to town and bought a Greenworks Pro chainsaw that use the same battery as the weedeater. They both still run good and are much, much easier to maintain than the gas ones.

The chainsaw works best on trees of about one foot or less across. The largest round I ever cut was 19 inches across. I am VERY happy with them.

Windy Ridge
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
I once had a Poulan Pro that cut many a cord of wood. As it aged problems appeared. It started with the muffler falling off and ended with it being unable to do any wood cutting. It could only cut the air.

I had bought a Greenworks Pro weedeater that was battery powered and did an excellent job of cutting the weeds. So, I went to town and bought a Greenworks Pro chainsaw that use the same battery as the weedeater. They both still run good and are much, much easier to maintain than the gas ones.

The chainsaw works best on trees of about one foot or less across. The largest round I ever cut was 19 inches across. I am VERY happy with them.

Windy Ridge
Stihl salesman have tried selling me their battery powered chainsaws, claiming they are just as powerful as the gas ones. The problem I see is how long do they last? The benefit of electric is they only use energy when actually cutting, meaning when set on the ground they will not idle and use gas. When we cut fire wood it's about 4 hours at a time, meaning we've got to get 4 hours worth of use out of the battery.

So let's say a person has a bunch of logs already delimbed and are busy hacking them up into 16" pieces ready for the splitter and is at this for four hours, will that battery last?
 
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