CRISIS CDC head says more health care workers could have Ebola

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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CDC head says more health care workers could have Ebola, despite claiming ‘any hospital’ can handle virus
Published October 13, 2014
FoxNews.com


The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned Monday that other U.S. hospital workers may have Ebola after a Dallas nurse tested positive for the virus, as he vowed to "double down" on training for health care workers -- raising questions about whether he told the truth when he initially assured the public and Congress that U.S. hospitals are capable of treating Ebola patients.

Thomas Frieden, at a press briefing on Monday, said the CDC would be taking a number of steps including offering more training and outreach throughout the health care system. He said they need to "rethink" their approach to the virus.

"I feel awful that a health care worker became infected in the care of an Ebola patient," Frieden said.

But he urged the public to brace for more bad news.

"We need to consider the possibility that there could be additional cases, particularly among the health care workers who cared for" Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan, he said, adding: "We're concerned that there could be other infections in the coming days."

Frieden also voiced regret for initially describing the latest infection as a "protocol breach," which some interpreted as blaming the nurse. "I'm sorry if that was the impression given. That was certainly not my intention," he said.

Frieden vowed to implement an "immediate set of steps" to ensure that those caring for the infected nurse are safe.

But just two weeks ago, Frieden claimed that "virtually any hospital in the country that can do isolation can do isolation for Ebola."

The CDC director repeatedly has said U.S. hospitals know how to stop the spread of Ebola, even though it is difficult. He said in written testimony to a House foreign affairs subcommittee in August that: "We know how to stop Ebola with strict infection control practices which are already in widespread use in American hospitals, and by stopping it at the source in Africa."

Reflecting the urgency of the developments in Texas, President Obama met Monday afternoon with senior administration officials on the Ebola response in the Oval Office. Frieden has launched an investigation as to how the Dallas nurse became infected.

However, some have complained the case shows how many hospitals are inadequately trained to handle the virus, which has killed more than 4,000 people during the latest outbreak in West Africa.

"You don't scapegoat and blame when you have a disease outbreak," Bonnie Castillo of National Nurses United told Reuters on Sunday. "We have a system failure. That is what we have to correct."

"We haven't provided [caregivers] with a national training program. We haven't provided them with the necessary experts that have actually worked in hospitals with Ebola," said Dr. Gavin McGregor-Skinner of Penn State University, an expert in public health preparedness.

Separately, some have raised concerns that no single person or agency is in charge of the U.S. response.

Texas and CDC officials say that the nurse in question was wearing the recommended personal protective gear for handling an Ebola patient, including a gown, gloves, mask, and eye shield. However, one expert told Reuters that gear only offers a minimum amount of protection, especially when the disease enters its final phases.

On Sunday, hazmat crews cleaned and disinfected the woman's apartment. KDFW reported that members of the 15-person crew took items out of the apartment and placed them in metal drums to be taken away.

The Morning News also reported that the woman owns a King Charles Spaniel dog. There was no sign that the dog had contracted the virus, but Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings said Sunday morning that officials had a "plan to take care of the pet." Dallas police reported that a worker in protective gear had entered the nurse's apartment Sunday evening to give the dog food and water.

Last week, a dog belonging to an Ebola-infected nurse was euthanized in Spain, causing a national outcry.

Click for more from Reuters.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tor-blames-nurse-ebola-infection-on-protocol/
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
IN relation to that article, here is what the veterinary industry had to say about dogs and Ebola.

http://atwork.avma.org/2014/10/09/ebola-virus-working-to-find-answers/

Ebola virus – AVMA’s working to find information for you
October 9, 2014 | Dr. Kristi Henderson | 3 Replies Share on linkedinshareShare on emailshareMore Sharing Servicesshare
The death of an international traveler diagnosed in the U.S. as having the Ebola virus disease (EVD), coupled with the precautionary measure by Spanish health officials to euthanize the dog of an exposed healthcare worker, have raised questions and concerns among veterinarians and the public alike:

- How will the U.S. react if faced with an increased number of EVD patients?

- Is there any chance that what happened in Spain could happen here?

- Is it even possible for dogs or other pets to get EVD or spread it to humans?

We know that you and your clients are looking for answers, and we’re working to get information for you. The AVMA is collaborating with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) along with others agencies and experts and is tapping into the broad expertise of our member veterinarians to develop information for our members and the pet-owning public. We will strive to ensure that veterinarians have a prominent voice as these issues are discussed and decided in the U.S.

This morning, the AVMA convened a call that gathered public health experts, government officials, and researchers to share information on what is currently known and to begin compiling information for the veterinary community and the public. This was just a first step. Working jointly, we hope to develop background information and FAQs to help you and your clients.

Key points:
The relative risk of exposure to the Ebola virus in the U.S. is extremely low, as there have been only a small number of isolated human cases and no known animal cases.
Although EVD is a zoonotic disease, there has not been evidence of its transmission to humans from dogs. Indeed, it is not even known if dogs are capable of contracting and then transmitting the disease. A study analyzing the 2001-2002 Ebola virus outbreak in Gabon found antibodies against the virus in about 25% of dogs in the affected area, but no virus was found in them. Furthermore, none of the animals showed signs or died of the disease during the study period. The study only indicated that the animals had encountered the Ebola virus.
The CDC recommends that if a pet is in the home of an EVD patient, veterinarians, in collaboration with public health officials, should evaluate the pet’s risk of exposure (close contact and exposure to blood or body fluids of an EVD patient). Appropriate measures, such as closely monitoring the exposed pet while using necessary precautions, should be taken based on that evaluation.
While we know many more questions exist about EVD, the AVMA is committed to providing pertinent information and ensuring that the veterinary profession is a driving force in discussions of how pets will be treated and cared for during an outbreak of this or any other zoonotic disease of public health concern.
Please stay tuned to this blog and to our social media channels, where we will keep you informed as we work with subject matter experts and animal and public health officials.

This entry was posted in Advocacy, Animal Health, Animal Welfare, AVMA Updates, Canine, Client Materials, Companion Animals, One Health, Scientific Issues, Veterinarian Resources and tagged Ebola virus, outbreak, Pets, Zoonoses, Zoonotic disease by Dr. Kristi Henderson. Bookmark the permalink.
 

babysteps

Veteran Member
WWWWHHHHAAAATTTT?????


But but but... they said the risk was SO LOW!! They said it wasn't a big deal!!! They said everything was fine!!!


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

jersey juice

Senior Member
I'm glad that someone is finally coming out and NOT blaming the nurse. But it makes me very uncomfortable that no one seems to be certain about this virus and exactly how it thrives and travels.
 

yellowlabz

Veteran Member
I'm surprised they're admitting there are probably more health care worker with it. We all figured that but I'm surprised they are actually saying it.
 

BigFootsCousin

Molon Labe!
Somewhere this past week, I had read that "if you weren't in a space-suit, you weren't protected".

I'm now almost starting to believe that. I think that the next few weeks will tell us a lot. I can't fret about it too much, because I can't change anything about it, except my attitude.

BFC
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
But he urged the public to brace for more bad news.

"We need to consider the possibility that there could be additional cases, particularly among the health care workers who cared for" Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan, he said, adding: "We're concerned that there could be other infections in the coming days."

This means there ARE additional cases
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Sheesh! You mean "Biosecurity Level4 actually MEANS Biosecurity Level4 protocols needs to be followed?! Who'd a thunk?!

(These are our "experts"? We're SCREWED!!)

Summerthyme
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
I'm surprised they're admitting there are probably more health care worker with it. We all figured that but I'm surprised they are actually saying it.

The statement is meant to be a shock-absorber for the public... They likely already have a dozen cases cooking, and they need to break the news gently.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My take is that Dr. Thomas Bozo-Frieden is setting the stage and preparing us for more infected health care workers.
Level 2 protocols are inadequate for a Level 4 virus.
And per the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Ebola can be easily transmitted through the air.
Poor protocols produce plentiful patients.
Get ready for more bad news.
SS
 

Annika

Senior Member
Somewhere this past week, I had read that "if you weren't in a space-suit, you weren't protected".

I'm now almost starting to believe that. I think that the next few weeks will tell us a lot. I can't fret about it too much, because I can't change anything about it, except my attitude.

BFC

Merry Christmas from the Obolas.
 

campswampy

Contributing Member
Sounds like the nurses union took a bite outa somebody. Definately not "good" news, but it's past time for them to tell the truth instead of the rainbows and unicorns crap. And yeah, no doubt there's more cases brewing.
 

FarmerJohn

Has No Life - Lives on TB
CDC head says more health care workers could have Ebola, despite claiming ‘any hospital’ can handle virus.

Maybe now that they've realized how complacent and overconfident they been, some of them can.

I hope so. There's nothing that so wakens the mind as fear. Fear of death is a top fear.

Some of the "isolation rooms" I've seen were a joke.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
look I don't blame healthcare staff for the situation until now because the situation did not seem extreme or people were complacent

NOW very extreme measures have to be put in place EVEN if totally OTT to prevent the inevitable, it is better to be OTT than dead
 

Traveler

Contributing Member
My DIL is a premi nurse at Womens and Childrens Hosp in Los Angles. All they got was a short email about precautions. No extra training. I don't think an email will protect her. Why not protect the front line. It doesn't add up.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
My DIL is a premi nurse at Womens and Childrens Hosp in Los Angles. All they got was a short email about precautions. No extra training. I don't think an email will protect her. Why not protect the front line. It doesn't add up.
From what my husband has told me and experts with experience on the board here have said, you don't learn how to use this equipment via e-mail or a lecture; it takes serious hands-on training, usually in pairs because with Ebola you can't just "rip off your stuff and throw it in the special bin" (again quoting husband) they way I gather you can with a lot of situation that require there use but are not bio-level four situations.
 

Rippled

Veteran Member
CDC head says more health care workers could have Ebola

Oh hell no.
You told me nothing to worry about. You told me I couldn't get it sitting next to someone on a plane.
Your messiah said i could even take a bus ride sitting next to someone infected.

You told me all I had to do was wash my hands and don't drink the vomit.

Oh, hell no. You take it back.

:mad:
 

Abdon

Inactive
I want to know how she got infected G#D Damit! They work the buddy system so that means there is a buddy that must have witnessed this "breach".
 

resq'd

Contributing Member
Rippled- Perfect response. CDC- Do NOT tell me I do not see what I see! You have the audacity to "equip" our healthcare workers with level II protocols, for a level IV pathogen, and then with a straight face, blame the nurse for a failure in protocol? Your attempt to CYA is beyond pitiful. You simply can't fix stupid- so I'm going to suggest that you go on home now, and let some of our best and brightest step up in your place. Just get out of the way....there is a special place in hell for liars and murderers.....
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"We're concerned that there could be other infections in the coming days."


Here it comes...
 

pooreboy

Member
They already know that there is more infections. Its just a matter of time before a leak of information gets out. The CDC would like to control that leak but........sooner or later the cases will grow larger than can be kept hidden.
 
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