HEALTH CCP Virus Variant Affects Vaccinated People More Than Unvaccinated People: Study

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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A study from Tel Aviv University found that a South African variant of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus affects people vaccinated with the Pfizer shot more than unvaccinated people.

The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, indicated that the B.1.351 variant of the virus was found eight times more in individuals who were vaccinated—or 5.4 percent against 0.7 percent—against those who were not vaccinated. Clalit Health Services, a top Israeli health-care provider, also helped in the study.

“We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group,” said Adi Stern of Tel Aviv University. “This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine’s protection.”

The study looked at 400 people who received at least one shot of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and had contracted the COVID-19 variant and compared them to the same number of people who were infected and unvaccinated. Moderna’s vaccine is also used in Israel, but it was not included in the study.

“It is the first in the world to be based on real-world data, showing that the vaccine is less effective against the South Africa variant, compared to both the original virus and the British variant,” said Professor Ran Balicer, director of research at Clalit, according to news reports.
Stern said the study’s findings came as a surprise.

“Based on patterns in the general population, we would have expected just one case of the South African variant, but we saw eight,” Stern told the Times of Israel. “Obviously, this result didn’t make me happy.” He added, “Even if the South African variant does break through the vaccine’s protection, it has not spread widely through the population.”

He continued: “These preliminary findings necessitates close continued attention to the dissemination of this strain in Israel, emphasizing the need for epidemiological monitoring and systematic sequencing, in order to contain further spread of the South African variant in Israel.”
The South African variant accounted for less than one percent of all COVID-19 cases in Israel, reported AFP, citing the study.

“This means that the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, though highly protective, probably does not provide the same level of protection against the South African (B.1.351) variant of the coronavirus,” the study said.
Israel, separately, has rolled out a so-called “vaccine passport” system that allows people who have been vaccinated privileges over individuals who are not vaccinated.

Such systems have been criticized by civil liberties groups, saying it would be an infringement on people’s rights, including privacy, and would potentially create a two-tiered class system of vaccinated and unvaccinated people.
COVID-19 is the disease caused by the CCP virus, a novel coronavirus.
The Epoch Times has contacted Pfizer for comment.
 

adgal

Veteran Member
Isn't this what Dr. Merritt in her video warned us about? She mentioned that we didn't know how the spike proteins would react when they were faced with another coronavirus attack. She actually thought that certain communist parties that bio-engineered the first COVID-19 might be able to bio-engineer another one, more lethal, and the vaccine was just step one in their bio-terrorism plan.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
That's the problem with Epoch Times. They sometimes twist the truth. Hell they do it most of the time.
And those who know nothing eat it up.
Its not true. :shk:
Israeli news reports somewhat differently.
First the study involved 400 already infected people who had previously been vaccinated with 400 unvaccinated people who also were infected.
In other words they found 800 people who were all already infected. They found more South African variant among the vaccinated, than unvaccinated because the vaccinated were more protected against the other variants while the unvaccinated people were infected with all the other more prevalent strains of covid.
In other words it's far, far easier to find 400 infected unvaccinated people than it is to find 400 infected vaccinated people. And since the vaccine protects many people from being infected from the more common strains of covid you will find more of the vaccinated with the South African strain.

Scientists are not saying the vaccine is ineffective against the South African strain. They are only saying it is less than the 95% efficacy it has shown against the other strains.

Look at it this way: You would have to search through over 10,000 random people who were vaccinated to find the same number of infected people as were contained in a random sample of less than a 1000 non vaccinated people. And since Pfizer vaccine protects so well against the original and UK strains, you'd naturally find more with the S. African strain for which Pfizer protects less, but still much better than being unvaccinated.

Reporters who have no concept of math or science and what the numbers mean, are twisting the statistics to make it seem like having the vaccine makes it easier to catch the South African strain than if you are unvaccinated. Simple not true, but it plays right into the hands of the ignorant, unaware public. Epoch times is one of the worst offenders.

And if you think the S African version is bad, just wait until the Brazilian version hits.
 

Roger Thornhill

Some irascible old curmudgeon
I dealt with the problem this way: went ahead and got the J&J vaccine to quiet the constant badgering of friends, family, and personal physician. I now have the little white card in my wallet, and the record of the stick on the EPIC system.

A week after the shot, I went right back to a regimen of daily vitamin C and D, zinc, melatonin, and quercetin with bromelain, as well as 21mg. of Ivermectin every two weeks.

I ain't skeered of nuthin' now.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
I'm still getting ready for Zombies, The Crazies or a variant of 'Last Man on Planet Earth"

It may be the stinkin' truth: I read somewhere that prions will attack a person's brain after they get one of the 'rona "vaccines." I sure hope that is woo!

I know I sure don't believe their "ingredient lists."
 

TKO

Veteran Member

A study from Tel Aviv University found that a South African variant of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus affects people vaccinated with the Pfizer shot more than unvaccinated people.

The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, indicated that the B.1.351 variant of the virus was found eight times more in individuals who were vaccinated—or 5.4 percent against 0.7 percent—against those who were not vaccinated. Clalit Health Services, a top Israeli health-care provider, also helped in the study.

“We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group,” said Adi Stern of Tel Aviv University. “This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine’s protection.”

The study looked at 400 people who received at least one shot of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and had contracted the COVID-19 variant and compared them to the same number of people who were infected and unvaccinated. Moderna’s vaccine is also used in Israel, but it was not included in the study.

“It is the first in the world to be based on real-world data, showing that the vaccine is less effective against the South Africa variant, compared to both the original virus and the British variant,” said Professor Ran Balicer, director of research at Clalit, according to news reports.
Stern said the study’s findings came as a surprise.

“Based on patterns in the general population, we would have expected just one case of the South African variant, but we saw eight,” Stern told the Times of Israel. “Obviously, this result didn’t make me happy.” He added, “Even if the South African variant does break through the vaccine’s protection, it has not spread widely through the population.”

He continued: “These preliminary findings necessitates close continued attention to the dissemination of this strain in Israel, emphasizing the need for epidemiological monitoring and systematic sequencing, in order to contain further spread of the South African variant in Israel.”
The South African variant accounted for less than one percent of all COVID-19 cases in Israel, reported AFP, citing the study.

“This means that the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, though highly protective, probably does not provide the same level of protection against the South African (B.1.351) variant of the coronavirus,” the study said.
Israel, separately, has rolled out a so-called “vaccine passport” system that allows people who have been vaccinated privileges over individuals who are not vaccinated.

Such systems have been criticized by civil liberties groups, saying it would be an infringement on people’s rights, including privacy, and would potentially create a two-tiered class system of vaccinated and unvaccinated people.
COVID-19 is the disease caused by the CCP virus, a novel coronavirus.
The Epoch Times has contacted Pfizer for comment.
CCP Virus. LOVE IT! Trump said it and got his ass handed to him.
 

SageRock

Veteran Member
I dealt with the problem this way: went ahead and got the J&J vaccine to quiet the constant badgering of friends, family, and personal physician. I now have the little white card in my wallet, and the record of the stick on the EPIC system.

A week after the shot, I went right back to a regimen of daily vitamin C and D, zinc, melatonin, and quercetin with bromelain, as well as 21mg. of Ivermectin every two weeks.

I ain't skeered of nuthin' now.

Question: where/how do you get the Ivermectin? I briefly tried the kind available at tractor supply stores, and I would prefer to get a regular pharmaceutical formulation designed for human consumption.

Thanks for any info!
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Question: where/how do you get the Ivermectin? I briefly tried the kind available at tractor supply stores, and I would prefer to get a regular pharmaceutical formulation designed for human consumption.

Thanks for any info!
ALLdaychemist.com
 

subnet

Boot
The article did state, "The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed" so I take that as a precautionary notice.
Like the ones the vax makers put out, that the pro wuflu vaxxers love to ignore...
"We don't know if this provides you immunity or if you can give it to others"...ect..ect..
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Yah.

We have gotten SO MUCH consistent "science" and unbiased "truth" so far from the (not at all agenda driven) PTB. I will continue to seek the best information I can find and make up my own mind, thank you very much.
Yeah, the news media is mostly biased propaganda on both the right and the left, most of the time.
Epoch times is also.
Most science biology courses are not. Neither are most published scientific studies published in respected medical journals.
Trouble is most people only search for what conforms to their own biases which are based on their feelz.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Question: where/how do you get the Ivermectin? I briefly tried the kind available at tractor supply stores, and I would prefer to get a regular pharmaceutical formulation designed for human consumption.

Thanks for any info!

Generally any Medications given to Horses or Fish that is used in HUmans is actually better from a Pet store, Tractor supply, Vet-people tend to get a side effect and just deal with it as "Something that Happens". Cause injury to someone's horse or expensive Fish and you might be looking at a major lawsuit.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
The former VP of Pfizer, Dr. Yeardon (sp?) said any variants would still be 99.7% like the original virus from last year..,so any vaccine to that would work against any variants. He said be very suspicious when they start threatening us with 'variants'.

Wasn't it China who told everyone what this virus genome was? And we trust them why? And the CCP scientists helped these vaccine companies make these vaccines. Why were CCP people working for these companies?
 
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et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yeah, the news media is mostly biased propaganda on both the right and the left, most of the time.
Epoch times is also.
Most science biology courses are not. Neither are most published scientific studies published in respected medical journals.
Trouble is most people only search for what conforms to their own biases which are based on their feelz.

You need to stop your nonsense. There’s been plenty of viable posts with sources from scientists And doctors that know what’s going on ... just as reliable as those you go on about. Many here have posted them. We’ve made our decisions as have you.

Ignorance is selective ...
 
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