Cancer Herb Question

[Beetree]

Has anyone ever heard of Yesac? I have a friend who is in final stages of cancer, says her Dr. She has had several operations and alot of chemo. Now the Dr.(s) have given her six months to live. She says that she is exploring some herbs mixed together called Yesac. I have never heard of it. Have you? Thank you for reading this. (her cancer started around the womb area -tumor- and she later had a portion of her colon removed)

 

[Lindy]

Hi Beetree, I think you are referring to Essiac (Cassie spelled backwards). It is a combination of herbs ( burdock, sheeps sorrell, turkey rhubarb,and slippery elm..and yes it is used by many cancer patients....www.herbalhealer.com..for info & to order.

 

[Lindy]

oops...ok so I can't spell backwards-

 

[Lindy]

www.herbalhealer.com

 

[raisedbypoodles]

Lindy, you spelled 'Essiac' correctly, and it IS her name spelled backwards, but it's her last name: (Rene) Caisse ;~)

 

[Beetree]

Okay, thanks so it is Essiac. Hmmm that is alot of herbs mixed together. I wonder if she would be better off with the tumerac (sp) or circumin (sp) that has been posted on this forum. I am not giving advice to her. I am just talking with her relative. Thus the mispelling of Essiac, I am sure but never the less, I want to relay info to her relative if there are better things. She is old and I am sure has a very delicate constitution at this point. Thank you for the replies.

 

[Gateway]

Here are 2 links that may have some options worth further research.

BC Cancer Agency

http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/UnconventionalTherapies/default.htm

Lots of information on different therapies, including comfrey and essiac. 2 comments on the comfrey page may be of interest:

"Summary
"One should entirely forgo the internal administration of the drug [comfrey], due to the presence, however small, of pyrrolizidine alkaloids which have hepatotoxic and carcinogenic effects." (Physician's Desk Reference)

"In view of the hepatotoxic properties documented for the pyrrolizidine alkaloid constituents, comfrey should not be taken internally. The topical application of comfrey-containing preparations to broken skin should be avoided... Comfrey should not be taken during pregnancy or lactation." (Newall)"


Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/44.cfm


This is the area to research info on herbs.
http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/11570.cfm
"Welcome to the AboutHerbs web site. This site provides objective information for oncologists and healthcare professionals, including a clinical summary for each agent and details about constituents, adverse effects, interactions, and potential benefits or problems. Evaluations of alternative or unproved cancer therapies also are given. Our Integrative Medicine Service staff, led by an oncology-trained pharmacist and botanicals expert, manages this web site, which is continually updated as new information becomes available."

 

[goatlady2]

Most everything I have read/heard about Essiac has been very positive but as with most all herbal stuff it's anecdotal and cannot be "scientifically" proven. If your friend is really terminal what harm in giving it a try. Obviously the conventional medicine field has nothing to help for her i.e. their diagnosis of her illness.

 

[Herbmountain]

There's my favorite cleansing herb again. Burdock. Harmless but one of the most powerful blood purifiers known to man. It is not dangerious. And I laugh at the comment about comfrey. Jerks. It is also a very good herb and works. That't why they FDA and AMA does not want people to use this herb. Idiots.

Sheeps sorrel is another blood cleanser.

Slippery elm coats and reduces inflammation

Turkey Rhubarb is the strongest herb in the mix and it is a powerful bowel stimulant and liver cleanser.

These herbs used in conjunction cleanse the body and this is why they are used together. You also have to follow a diet that consists of lots of green drinks and very little acidic foods. There's more. I would suggest she find a herbalist in her area that has a long standing with the community to work with.

 

[Beetree]

Most everything I have read/heard about Essiac has been very positive but as with most all herbal stuff it's anecdotal and cannot be "scientifically" proven. If your friend is really terminal what harm in giving it a try. Obviously the conventional medicine field has nothing to help for her i.e. their diagnosis of her illness.

I couldn't agree more. Whether or not they will go with it remains to be seen. I can certainly find out what they do and will keep it posted! Thanks!

 

[Beetree]

There's my favorite cleansing herb again. Burdock. Harmless but one of the most powerful blood purifiers known to man. It is not dangerious. And I laugh at the comment about comfrey. Jerks. It is also a very good herb and works. That't why they FDA and AMA does not want people to use this herb. Idiots.

Sheeps sorrel is another blood cleanser.

Slippery elm coats and reduces inflammation

Turkey Rhubarb is the strongest herb in the mix and it is a powerful bowel stimulant and liver cleanser.

These herbs used in conjunction cleanse the body and this is why they are used together. You also have to follow a diet that consists of lots of green drinks and very little acidic foods. There's more. I would suggest she find a herbalist in her area that has a long standing with the community to work with.

Thanks Herbmountain! I appreciate your endeavors to help me understand the herbs. You have to be a foremost authority from the way you write! It is so hard though to be on the other side as my friend is. You see she has been nuked to death almost and I do not know if she needs to be CLEANSED at this point. Since everything living in her body has been nuked with CHEMO. There is probably nothing alive in her body that needs to be cleansed. She is probably too clean. I mean would you want a bowel stimulant if you had had your bowels partially removed? Thanks though. I just think there are times when thorough cleansing is not needed. I like what you say about the herbs and all they do! Keep up your good work! And I will suggest to her to see a herbalist, like you say! THANKS!

 

[Herbmountain]

But what about the chemo? It leaves behind dead cells and matter that should be cleansed out. But when we suggest cleansing we also suggest building with foods that heal, like greens, lean meats and meat broths. The liver takes the hardest hit with Chemo. Essiac as well as milk thistle is perfect for helping the cleansing. Im not suggeting a purging just a mild cleanse.

And everything is not "dead" in her body. She is still alive and trying to repair and build new red and white cells. The herbs assist this process.

 

[Beetree]

Good points HM. Thanks!

 

[Shock Wave Rider]

Here ya go... this story tell's it like it is.

NATURE'S CURE FOR CANCER!

http://www.nw.com.au/~keane/healing/04Treatment/4Cancer/41Essiac.htm

Rene Caisse was a nurse living in Canada who for a period of almost sixty years treated hundreds of people with an herbal remedy she called Essiac. She discovered this remedy through a patient in the hospital where she worked who had been cured of cancer. The patient had used an herbal remedy given her by an Ojibway herbalist.

Rene left the hospital in 1922 at age 33, and went to Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada where she began administering Essiac to all who came to her. The majority of those whom she treated came on referral with letters from their physicians certifying they had incurable or terminal forms of cancer and that they had been given up by the medical profession as untreatable.

Rene began gathering the plants and preparing the herbal remedy herself in her own kitchen, in a building lent her for her patients. She administered Essiac both orally and by injection. In cases where there was severe damage to life support organs, her patients died --- but they lived far longer than the medical profession had predicted, and, more significantly, they lived free of pain. Still others, listed as hopeless and terminal, but without severe damage to life support organs, were cured and lived 35-45 years (many are still living).

So startling was the effectiveness of this simple herbal remedy, it could not be ignored, and the Canadian Ministry of Health and Welfare and the Parliament became involved. Friends, former patients, and grateful families petitioned Canadian officialdom for Rene Caisse's right to administer the remedy to anyone who asked for it without the threat of interference from authorities. Fifty-five thousand signatures were collected on the petition. In 1938, Essiac came within three votes of being legalized by the Ontario government as a remedy for terminal cancer patients.

Read the entire story... recipe and instructions to make it are also on this page!

 

[NC Susan]

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What Gets Them Started and How To Maintain Health


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Free-Radicals Cause Cancer

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Here are two more links


http://www.nutragrape.com/pages/Facts.html

http://www.duplinwinery.com/

 

[Wise Owl]

www.coljoe.com

Go there and read. Quickly....It works..

 

[MtnGal]

herbalcom.com

Essiac Blend 2.8 pounds $38.50

 

[Herbmountain]

Starwest Botanicals in Rancho Cordova Ca. Item #8280 $13.50 #.
(888) 824-4372.

When I had the store it was only 1.99 an ounce=24.00 a pound. I still have 8 ounces that I keep in case of sickness. Shocked at that price.

 

[Beetree]

Thanks ALL! She has started it. Will post on about it as she goes. Keep in mind she is up there in age. Don't we all hope we can make it to her age which is hmm I think 82 but will verify this age when I talk to her relatives. Thank you for the infossssss.

 

[Dinghy]

My husband just started taking this today for his prostate cancer. A man in town is selling it at his health food store, and is being very generous. He gave him 10% off of everything, plus put everything on credit. He said the important thing was him getting better, and he shouldn't be worrying about the cost. He said to pay him something whenever he can. I can't wait to see how it works.

 

[theoutlands]

Don't we all hope we can make it to her age which is hmm I think 82 but will verify this age when I talk to her relatives.

I don't *hope* to make it to that age, I *expect* to make that and SURPASS it. I have numerous relatives on both sides of my family who made it into their 90's and even some into their 100's. My grandad died at the age of 93 "thanks" to modern medicine and *his* dad died at 96. and so forth... My kids are stuck w/ me for a loooooooooong time to come!

 

[DocVan]

I just looked up in my cupboard and I have a 4 oz package of "Caisse's Herbal Tea." It says that it is the original formula (Organic Ingredients):

1-Burdock Root (Arctium lappa)
2-Sheep Sorrel (Rumex acetosella)
3. Slippery Elm Bark (Ullmus rubra)
4. Turkey Rhubarb (Rheum spp.)


I paid $13.50 for it at Nature's Health Food store in Portland, OR ( now Wild Oats Health Food store). It is made by Camas Prairie Products -Trout Lake, Washington 98650.

I must have purchased it, then forgotten to try it.

DocVan

 

[Beetree]

I don't *hope* to make it to that age, I *expect* to make that and SURPASS it. I have numerous relatives on both sides of my family who made it into their 90's and even some into their 100's. My grandad died at the age of 93 "thanks" to modern medicine and *his* dad died at 96. and so forth... My kids are stuck w/ me for a loooooooooong time to come!

I LOVE this outlook!

 

[Beetree]

I Saw Her Today!

She is looking good and was VERY congenial, and happy at the baby shower. I have not sat down with her and talked but my sister who is very close to her took her to the Dr. 2 weeks ago and the Dr. said that things should get worse soon. He told her that she will have most likely a bowel blockage. That really scared her! I will tell you if she does have what the Dr. said she will most likely have. Thanks for your posts here and thanks for caring! And Happy New Year! It is still January and I can still say HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 

[Beetree]

So far so GOOD...

She has been having a very good and active life. She was supposed to be dying right now. Yesterday she had a seafood platter. I will keep you posted!

 

[Dinghy]

She has been having a very good and active life. She was supposed to be dying right now. Yesterday she had a seafood platter. I will keep you posted!

That is terrific! I hope she continues to go great!

 

[Beetree]

So far so GOOD.

She had a set back last week. She went to the Dr. to have him examine her to see if the tumor had grown and he did a rough exam. Vag. and other end. She had bleeding really bad after the probes. I hope he did not injure some of the tissues that had began healing. Or maybe the tissues were going to be bleeding anyway soon. Who knows. However I hated to hear of her bleeding so badly after the exam. Maybe she should not have exams at this point. She is feeling good other than that episode. She is doing great.

 

[Dinghy]

I hope things keep going well. Did the doctor say if the tumor changed at all?

 

[Beetree]

He told her to tell her family things are....

I hope things keep going well. Did the doctor say if the tumor changed at all?

All she said was that the Dr. told her she could tell the family everything was the same. Guess that was before the rough exam. The bleeding was not the same. She wasn't bleeding before the exam. I do not mean to sound bitter, it is just that certain family members did not want her to go and get the exam done. They thought why get a exam, when they will not do anymore for her. I guess she just wanted to satisfy her curiosity. They have told her that they are not going to operate again. Have a good day.

 

[Dinghy]

Sorry to hear this Beetree. I really hope she still doesn't give up yet. If the doctor said things are the same, isn't that better than things are worse? Is she taking any kind of natural stuff? Cancer Treatment Centers of America stress good nutrition and natural supplements. Has she ever checked with them? They have helped many people who thought they would die.

 

[gunnersmom]

glad to hear she is hanging in there.

Herbmountain, can you take that essaic just to clean yourself up, even if you don't have cancer? Would that be good for you?

 

[tropicalfish]

glad to hear she is hanging in there.

Herbmountain, can you take that essaic just to clean yourself up, even if you don't have cancer? Would that be good for you?

I was wondering the same thing. You never know what is going on inside the body and it just might flush something out before it gets a good start.

 

[Beetree]

Spiral down with one after the other treatments

Now there is the third treatment with antibiotics, going on. They just keep putting her on antibiotics. They cause her to get sick. Not saying that they don't get rid of the infections mind you, but gee wheese, they just cause her to compact. Then the dr. has to go in and clean the compact out. I told a close relative of hers to tell her to maybe ask the dr. to prescribe the liquid antibiotics instead of the powdered ones. The powdered ones have some sort of clay in them I think that can cause constipation. However the advice was not adhered to and she is going to get the compaction again. Things are going downhill. It seems to be a cycle..antibiotics, compaction, antibiotics, compaction....I don't know why I even bothered to tell them to try the liquid antibiotics. GEEEESE

 

[Beetree]

She is addicted to doctors!

She is going to one doctor after another in different cities. I do not mean to sound insensitive but it seems to be a a downward spiral. How can the healing herbs work when there is so much confusion? And the antibiotics etc. are causing so many problems with the compacting etc. I probably have the wrong view that sometimes you need to just quit messing with something and give it time to heal. Her last dr. told her that it won't be long. The end is near. He said before Sept. Sad

 

[NC Susan]

If you could give her a tablespoon of flax seeds every day, she wont have constipation or compaction. Its an excellent Omega 3, and remember flax oil and cottage cheese is Budwigs cancer cure.



Works as good or better than the stool softner drugs (colase)...........My mother hated that the seeds got under her dental plates, but its possible to grind them in a coffee grinder for fussiest folks

I buy a bag at the healthfood store for 2.75. Same bag sells at Walfart for 7.00.

Everyone in the house loves the flavor. Its a pleasure to sprinkle over the cereal or in cottage cheese or salads. Kids eat them by the handfuls.

 

[Beetree]

Update.. I promised..

She is doing great. She is enjoying life and living it at it's fullest. She did have a set back 2 months ago with a sore. But she cured that. She is doing fine now. Totally emersed in life and enjoying herself. And I must add has very much outlived what her dr. said she was supposed to!

 

[Dean Miller]

Beetree,

If you haven't found out yet, MAKE SURE SHE GETS A 200 MICROGRAM SELENIUM TABLET TWO TIMES DAILY!

From another (unmentionable) site:

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SELENIUM - good news in Cancer Treatment

This unusual story of a West Australian farmer was told to me by one of the farmer’s friends who lives in Melbourne. It is full of happy endings, almost too good to be true.
The farmer was diagnosed with BOWEL CANCER. His doctor-surgeon arranged a date for him to check into hospital to have the cancer removed . In due course on the date set, after he was checked into hospital, the doctor-surgeon visited him in his room to tell him that after reviewing all the tests and X-rays, all concerned agreed that his cancer was inoperable and that all tests indicated his heart was not strong enough to survive such major surgery.

The farmer said, “Doctor, you’re telling me there is nothing you can do for me?’ “Yes,” the doctor said, and then apologized for such a late change of decision. The farmer then requested his wife to go and check him out of hospital and for his son to pack his bag and take it to the car. He said that he would have to go home and treat himself.

For many years this farmer had treated his cattle and sheep for prevention and cure of various ailments. One drench had proved especially effective and that was Selenium Drench Concentrate. He decided to formulate a daily dose for himself based on his own body-weight, as he has so often done for his farm animals.

Over the following few months, he took this dosage on an empty stomach every morning.
After several months his wife said, “I think you are getting better! You look good and don’t seem to be sick at all. I think you had better visit the doctor and have him check you over!” Which he did. The doctor said that as far as he could examine him externally, the cancer was gone. He told the farmer to go home and enjoy life!

One day shortly after, a well-dressed lady driving an expensive car arrived at the farm. She said, “Your doctor is my doctor and he tells me you cured yourself of bowel cancer. I have bowel cancer and I’ve come to ask you to share the treatment.”
The farmer said, “Woman, it would be worth more than my farm for me to start acting like a doctor! But I know how desperate you are. I’ll put the ingredients out and will show you what I mixed up, but I can’t give it to you! My wife and I have to do the evening chores – feed the fowls and milk the cows and so on. While we’re gone, you can steal the ingredients if you like but I can’t give it to you!” That is exactly what the lady did, and she treated herself as instructed. Several months later, she returned with bouquets and presents. She told her farmer friends she was cured and given a clearance from their mutual doctor.

Soon after, another well-dressed lady arrived by car at the farmer’s house. She had been sent by the first lady. She stated she had bowel cancer and requested the farmer share his treatment with her. He said he would treat her exactly the same as he had treated her friend – which he did with the same excellent results.
Several months later and almost amusingly, the farmer’s own doctor arrived at the farm, stating he had come for more than a social visit because he too, now had bowel cancer and wanted the farmer to share the treatment with him. Which the farmer did in the same way as for the two ladies, and with the same excellent results.

The friend who conveyed this story to me was a suspected PROSTATE CANCER victim having a very high PSA (prostate-specific antigen) count. He immediately went onto the treatment and very quickly his PSA was down to normal. Another of my friends was diagnosed positively as having prostate cancer and was planning surgery. He has been on the selenium treatment, and recently was given a medical all-clear. Friends who have gone on the treatment as a precaution – believing as I do that what will cure will prevent – have found that minor SKIN CANCERS on their hands have cleared up.

The treatment as worked out by the farmer is with SELENIUM DRENCH CONCENTRATE, which anyone can purchase from veterinary product suppliers. It is liquid selenium.
For years, the sale of selenium for human consumption has been prohibited.
The active constituent is 10 mg of Selenium per mL as sodium selenite.
The dosage: is one teaspoonful to two litres of water, of which mixture you drink 226 mL or two-thirds of a 400 mL breakfast cup each morning on an empty stomach.
I’ve been taking it for several years and it certainly does not appear to produce any ill-effects.
(Source: Email from Keith dated February 26, 2004, sent to NEXUS Magazine in mid-2005.)

This Article is printed in NEXUS Magazine p.9 December 2005 – January 2006 edition.
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